For the MSM, there's nothing like the occasion of a natural disaster to challenge the faith of religious believers.On today's Good Morning America, Kate Snow interviewed the Rev. Larry Lynn, Pastor of the Lady Lake Church of God, whose buildings were totally levelled by the tornadoes that recently struck central Florida.
A minute or so into the interview, Snow asked a question that challenged the core of the pastor's religious belief: "How do you reconcile your faith with the enormity of this tragedy?"
Pastor Lynn answered in a manner consistent with the most basic Christian principles: "This is just a temporal thing. We deal in the eternal. Temporal things change on a daily basis. I don't know what today might bring, but I'm prepared for it. I don't know what tomorrow might bring, but I'm prepared for it, because I know who holds tomorrow. My confidence is not in the things of this world, but in He who sits on the throne and in his son, Jesus Christ."
Aside: GMA also reported this morning on the suicide bombing in Baghdad that took over 130 lives. I don't recall the ABC reporter asking people there whether this act of evil shook their religious faith.
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Typical humanist logic - That
February 4, 2007 - 09:14 ET by Chicago RepublicanTypical humanist logic - That there is no way God can exist or exist as described in Scripture when there is suffering in the world.
God Exists.
As God, he's Omnipotent and Omniscient and well aware of the suffering in the world. He's just a little bit smarter than the Left and does in fact have a plan to deal with all the suffering in the world. Just not on your schedule.
Agreed, CR.If there were to
February 4, 2007 - 10:40 ET by JerryAgreed, CR.
If there were to be no tragedy or suffering on earth, it would not be earth, it would be heaven. We have fallen from the grace of God by our sinful decisions. That is why the earth is fraught with imperfections and tragedies.
Who on earth has suffered more than Jesus? Did God not see the suffering of His only begotten Son? Of course He did. But Jesus willingly gave His life for the attonement of our sins, and God willingly allowed it to take place, and I am eternally thankful for that. How do we reconcile our faith indeed!
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Did anyone actually die? If n
February 4, 2007 - 09:15 ET by AtheistRepublicanDid anyone actually die? If not, it is not much of a tragedy.
It was mentioned that all t
February 4, 2007 - 09:24 ET by Mark FinkelsteinIt was mentioned that all the members of his congregation are OK.
Yes:http://www.concordmonit
February 4, 2007 - 09:32 ET by toolzI think that, is someone is in pain and questioning their faith- something that happens in the midst of tragedy- they would want and need to hear the pastor's words.
Ok, toolz, I'll admit you may
February 4, 2007 - 09:45 ET by Chicago RepublicanOk, toolz, I'll admit you may have a point in this instance (though I didn't see the broadcast Mark references). My comments above are still valid. History of dealing with the Left in this country has conditioned me to believe that anytime this question is asked, its meant to embarrass those who profess to believe in Scriptures view of a loving God.
True, I would need to h
February 4, 2007 - 09:53 ET by toolzTrue, I would need to hear the tone of the question... Had the reporter asked 'How can you reconcile your faith...' that would almost certainly imply that to do so would be extraordinary.
I've become fascinated with the Liberal Left and Religion lately
February 4, 2007 - 09:37 ET by acaiguanaI've become fascinated with the Liberal Left and Religion lately.
For example, this article in the American Thinker. (hattiptoRush)
I believe that the concepts set forth in this article are quite applicable in understanding the Liberal mindset toward Religion. It is difficult for me at my age to understand why anyone would not have pondered religion during their life times.
I believe it lies in the issue of being 'judged' against a standard that restricts behavior that otherwise would be considered deviant.
In a closed model of a society of Herion Addicts (for example) the only ingrediants necessary to imput would be Herion. Forgetting for a moment the forces outside the model required to actually get the Herion into the society; if the members had nothing else to do but consume, eventually they would die off rather rapidly.
In an open model where some behavior is required to maintain the flow of Herion into the model, such as producing money, not every member of the Herion Addict society could stay immobile and 'stoned' all the time.
This idea comes to me because in the Liberal mind, the human is a closed system with respect to spirituality. Since no behavior is required in a closed system to maintain the system one would see that religion is shunned because it imposes some sort of 'expectation' of behavior that does not exist without it.
Man, I'm rambling off the deep end today.
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
The amazing secular socialist mind
February 4, 2007 - 09:46 ET by reelman46Only a secular socialist would not understand the saying, "An understandable God is no God at all"... and proceed to trash faith with mere human secular faithless logic... what Church does Ms. Snow attend? I wonder.
I have, in fact, been t
February 4, 2007 - 10:08 ET by toolzI have, in fact, been trying to reconcile my faith for some time, but I have grown sort of... cynical, disenchanted, not sure of the right word. When I was younger, it was out of fear that I pursued Christianity. I was not raised in a "hell fire and brimstone" home of preaching... I was not even baptised, at my father's request, as he wanted me to find way own way in the spiritual world. But we had Christmas, we had Easter, so the notions of Christianity were present. And for whatever reason, I became so incredibly fearful of the thought of being unbaptised and would spend eternity in pain. So I went to catechumenate and was baptised and confirmed a Catholic. But it did not give me spiritual fulfillment, perhaps because I engaged religion for the wrong reasons. As I have gotten older- I was 16 at the time and am 23 now- I have become increasingly disengaged. I started to see it more, as you said, restrictive in behavior, shameful, fearful. I simply cannot wrap my head around God as an entity, and certainly not around a specific dogma. I have heard the arguments about 'God as a crutch,' etc, but I cannot buy into that, because there is something in me that yearns for that fulfilment of spirituality.
But I think many hard lefts do in fact view faith as a weakness, as a crutch, as a means of control; and because of that, they are inherently smarter, wiser, focused. And there is the disconnect.
I would recommend 'The Question of God', a PBS documentary. It is a round table of religious scholars and atheists discussing God, religion and its impact on the world.
toolz - try this one on for size.
February 4, 2007 - 10:21 ET by acaiguanatoolz - try this one on for size.
"But I think many hard lefts do in fact view faith as a weakness, as a crutch, as a means of control; and because of that, they are inherently smarter, wiser, focused. And there is the disconnect."
"Religion is the opiate of the masses." Karl Marx
There, I hope I've cleared that one up for ya.
The Left concentrate on shallow uninformed canards about religion. For example the Hell Fire and Brimstone aspect of 'not believing'.
Well, this doesn't really carry through an entire lifetime of free thinking.
My point is that there are <gasp> some positive aspects of faith. For example allowing your life to deal with what happens on a daily basis with faith that one can handle that stuff. Faith that things will go your way rather than be directed by government social engineering. Faith that mankind has an inner need (hard wired) to believe in something greater than self.
These ideas are not uniquely Christian, but since we live in a Christian dominated nation; we in the West tend to reference Christians rather than say, Hindus.
Just a thought.
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Hillary Clinton says: "I want to take those profits."
I hear what you are saying, t
February 4, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Chicago RepublicanI hear what you are saying, toolz. I'm not here to be Rev Chicago Republican, but I do have some points about this whole debate that I hang my hat on.
Excellent answer Rev. Chicago
February 4, 2007 - 11:02 ET by Eric TurnerExcellent answer Rev. Chicago. Too many people don't want to reconcile the love of God with the justice of God. They want to take one without the other. I really like the example that Kirk Cameron has in his series "The Way of the Master" with regards to this issue of justice.
I too believe Baptism is just a sacrament.
All this said, I don't know how I'm going to reconcile you being a FSU fan and a Christian. I didn't know it was possible. Everyone knows God is a Oklahoma Sooners fan.
No, no, no.. God is a Cornh
February 4, 2007 - 11:30 ET by rimskyNo, no, no.. God is a Cornhusker Fan.. Sooner fan.. get real..
Let's look at this scientif
February 4, 2007 - 11:51 ET by Troika37Let's look at this scientifically: If God's not a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?
Troika,Um, because the sky wo
February 4, 2007 - 13:24 ET by BlondeTroika,
Um, because the sky would look a little surreal if it were Orange & Blue?
Gators, silly.
Everyone knows G-d does not c
February 4, 2007 - 17:22 ET by Mr. KafirEveryone knows G-d does not care about college athletics.
I don't think any but you knows who G-d is...
February 4, 2007 - 18:06 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI don't think anyone but you knows who G-d is...mind filling us in and excusing the pun?
I mean, I am sure it isn't pseudo-spirituality or some erroneous attempt to write God and show you have respect by cutting out one letter. I mean, after all what kind of respect would that be when the person who REALLY showed respect and spirituality would put --- for God and not just G-d...but then we all know that using --- would only expose the silliness and absurdity of G-d.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
God
February 4, 2007 - 21:58 ET by CaliosGod (pronounced Gawd) cares about everything.
There's more to our existance than this life on this small planet. There are things at work around and among us that we are not all aware of and there's more adventures and troubles that await us at our next awakening. God knows what is in our hearts and we will go to our next life according to that which we believe.
Isn't the sky orange and bl
February 5, 2007 - 10:14 ET by Challenger GrimIsn't the sky orange and blue at sunset?
And God's a UK fan, end of story.
You know, Eric, its hard enou
February 5, 2007 - 12:01 ET by Chicago RepublicanYou know, Eric, its hard enough to endure a season like we just had (bad year for Noles, Natl Chmpship for Gators) without people like you piling on. Blonde must have put you up to that remark.
Chicago Republican
February 5, 2007 - 14:30 ET by Eric TurnerLOL. No, no. But I couldn't resist after reading your FSU comment in another thread and combining it with this thread. Hey! I'm one to talk...look at the Sooners season this year. It wasn't great.
But thankfully, God loves us each equally.
(Oh and I am sorry about Chicago's loss)
I'm ok with the Bears loss.
February 5, 2007 - 14:33 ET by Chicago RepublicanI'm ok with the Bears loss. Thanks for the concern.
As a 58 year old Christian I
February 4, 2007 - 10:40 ET by EvilRoyAs a 58 year old Christian I have wondered many of the same things as a 23 year as you do. So what made me finally see the wisdom and mystery of Christianity? This is a an explanation I gave my daughter when her grandfather died and she couldn't understand why God would take her Papaw away. I said when she was a baby her mother and I took her to the doctor so she could get vaccinated to protect her from serious illnesses. When the doctor gave her the shot, she had this look of surprise and then cried her little eyes out. The look she gave us was "Why did you allow that pain to happen to me? Don't you love me, I trusted you to keep me from all hurt and you stood by and did nothing to stop this!" While we wanted to tell her that what had happened was for her own good we knew that nothing we said would help, she was just a baby and couldn't understand.
When bad things happen there is a reason why God doesn't do anything but He can't tell us because we wouldn't/can't understand. Everything that happens, happens for a reason, what that reason is, is unknowable, at least in this life. Whatever does happen, just remember, it's all temporary.
Remember, religion is called "faith" for a reason. Faith is trusting or believing in something without concrete reasons being present to support that trust. If you have faith you have trust in something bigger than yourself. I hope this helps.
Toolz, Baptism won't get yo
February 4, 2007 - 11:11 ET by JerryToolz,
Baptism won't get you into heaven. Being good won't either. Going to church won't, even if you went every day. There is but one entrance, and that is the person of Jesus Christ.
The Bible says, "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov:9:10), because that's when you realize that your decisions and actions have consequences. It appears that you are experiencing that fear. The problem is, you are only seeking protection from the punishment for your sins instead of seeking protection through forgiveness of your sins.
I would not put much creedence on a PBS documentary with religious scholars. It seems to me that today's religious scholars are more intent with disproving the divinity of Jesus than the atheists are. As a matter of fact, this seems to be a global phenomenon, with the History channel, pbs, Time magazine, etc all chipping away.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
you've bought into the libera
February 4, 2007 - 13:20 ET by kathleenirishyou've bought into the liberal religious dogma, sir, Mr.Toolz.
I suggest you go to AmericanCatholic.org. and subscribe to "Saint of the Day" and the other newsletters they offer there. Contemplate and pray. MIracles happen every day.
As far as ABC goes, how can you call yourself, "journalists" when you set aside the ethics and standards of journalism day in and out? You are obnoxious elites. That was a cheap shot question, per usual. Garbage reporting.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
I sympathize, toolz
February 4, 2007 - 17:47 ET by tumbler_2007Dear Toolz,
You have been enrolled in the book of life, and as long as you remain open to God's grace and mercy, you're being helped along life's journey. There is no bright flash of faith as such. You are encouraged through daily prayer and self-denial; there isn't ordinarily a "spiritual fulfillment". You are to pick up your cross and follow Jesus Christ; and on the journey you'll find mostly spiritual crossroads which are there to test your love for God, not necessarily to comfort and reassure you.
If you need good counsel, try reading matter which is proven to enhance our spirituality. Many great lives of the saints are waiting to be read, which will inspire you.
Inspire you to what? LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST. Jesus wants your love, toolz; He asks you for a saint's love. Pray to Him, and above all, bring yourself to the altar of love; where He awaits. He doesn't promise His loved ones more in this lifetime than HE had. You'll have weak days and better days. You'll sin and break your promises, become discouraged and often tempted to forget about Him. But if you persist in daily prayer and offer Jesus your unying love, He'll bring you out of darkness into His light.
BTW; I think either tonight or tomorrow night, Turner Classic Movies channel is airing A Man For All Seasons; a marvelous film by Robert Bolt. In it see Saint Thomas More, the great English martyr played by Paul Scofield. He is sublime in the role of an exemplary Catholic who lived his undying faith. I call this 60's movie one of the best I ever saw.
Toolz, I have been
February 4, 2007 - 18:11 ET by BritcomToolz,
I have been where you are with your faith. I found all my answers by
going directly to the source, the Bible itself. I recommend you read from the
Bible every day, preferably a good Study Bible. Get a modern translation (I use the Scofield,
New International Version (NIV). You can even read the Bible online at sites
like www.Bible.com. You don't have to read all of it right away, but you should
start with the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Don’t let anyone fool
you, the Bible is the ONLY source of knowledge about
Christianity. Don't listen to Priests, Pastors, Ministers, or Preachers until
you have a working knowledge of what Jesus and the Prophets actually said. Many
churches teach a dogma that is not in the Bible or twist what is in there.
Those religions are cults that try to scare you and control your mind.
Read God's word for yourself, pray for help to understand His teachings, and
think for yourself. God didn’t put a brain in your head for no reason; he
wants you to use it. Don't rely on some "Church Doctrine" to tell you
what only the Bible can. Read the Bible, and I am sure you will be shocked at
what is NOT in there that you were told was in there. Then you will see
the truth and no one will be able to deceive you and you will know what God wants
you to know.
dear toolz,
February 4, 2007 - 18:28 ET by tumbler_2007I'm sorry; I was mistaken about the movie being on TCM tonight or tomorrow. I went & checked again. It will show on Saturday, February 24th. I hope you'll see it on TV or else rent a copy of it; --A Man For All Seasons.
My friend above this post, Britcom, is only partly correct. You must read the Holy Bible, yes. But we are NOT to consider the reading of the Bible our exclusive source of Christian truth or doctrine. You're a Catholic. Attend Holy Mass and frequent the sacraments. Listen to the Church, and make no attempt at private interpretation of the more controversial texts. Mr. Britcom means to help you but has no authority to prescribe Sola Scriptura. (The sole guide to God's Word.) He's entitled to read it himself, if it suits him; but he has no good counsel to offer any practicing Catholic. We must not be misled by self-styled Bible scholars. Jesus founded his Church and taught us through His apostles, who formed the Church. We follow Peter, Christ's holy apostle and Vicar on earth.
Others are, unfortunately, pretenders to the Word, not followers.
God
February 5, 2007 - 10:23 ET by cvgbuckeyeToolz: Please do not place your eternal life in the debates of the existence of God, by people like Sam Harris or any panel of experts. If they could prove or disprove the existence of God, the issue would have been resolved centuries ago and they would be God instead of God. The concept in question is called Faith. There is another concept called Grace that will interest you.
Your journey will be much more complex than any genius or debating champion could ever dream up. The greatest experts on the Old Testament during the life of Jesus Christ were the Pharisees, Priests and Scribes. They made up a body called The Sanhedrin and guess what. They demanded that the Romans crucify Jesus Christ; and they did.
Associate yourself with a Bible based Church. Don't just sneak in, listen to the sermon and sneak out. Associate yourself with the members in a thing called fellowship. Attend some of their Bible classes. Try praying a little.
Do these things and see where it leads. You will be amazed.
One more thing is that I hope the administrators of this sight are not reaching the end of their patience with this type of evangelizing but, of course, it would not be tolerated PERIOD on a left wing venue.
Here are the questions I wo
February 4, 2007 - 10:47 ET by JerryHere are the questions I would have liked to have heard..
"Kate, how do you reconcile your faith in your religion (Global Warming) when it snows in New Mexico?"
"Kate, how do you reconcile your faith in your religion (Secular Humanism) when humans commit murder at record setting levels?"
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Questions for the pastor
February 4, 2007 - 11:07 ET by nkviking75I'm not bothered by this question, and I doubt the good pastor was either. He almost certainly will have to answer it as best he can for people in his church and his community. He may have even appreciated the opportunity to share his faith. If she said, "How can you believe there's a God when this kind of thing happens?", I'd probably be a bit annoyed at the tone, but I still wouldn't be shaken by the question. Believers face issues like this every day. Christians are being tortured and murdered all around the world for the "crime" of believing in Christ. And the answers aren't always cut and dried. I don't know why my kidneys failed and I have to be on dialysis, but God is still real and He still loves me. I'm convinced of it.
left
February 4, 2007 - 12:08 ET by iveseenitallMany on the left have no faith or belief in God. Most on the right do believe. Many on the left are discontented with their lives. Most on the right, like this preacher, are content with what they have and who they are. Choose for yourself.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Well, leftist do have a rel
February 4, 2007 - 20:10 ET by AJWell, leftist do have a religious affiliation... its called "Whatever the heck I think God should be in my mind... no Book is going to tell me about God... I am !"
some times, my ear plugs aren't enough to block out liberal manure.
No... I think for leftists,
February 5, 2007 - 10:18 ET by Challenger GrimNo... I think for leftists, they think of THEMSELVES as god so when they look at the world they see "Well this isn't how I would have done it. There can be no god."
Might I suggest religious f
February 4, 2007 - 13:21 ET by Ken ShepherdMight I suggest religious faith sensitivity training for journalists?
But seriously, that sort of question betrays either a major lack of respect for religious faith or a very poor command of the English language.
Was the intended question, "How does your religious faith help you handle the enormity of such tragedies"? It seems in context this was not a semantic slip-up on that order.
But even if it was that more innocuous explanation, it still shows the media need a bit more preparation and tact when it comes to interviewing victims of natural disasters.
Faith Sensitivity Training for Journalists
February 4, 2007 - 13:29 ET by BlondeWhat a fine idea!
We in the real world are assaulted on a daily basis by political correctness....and as employers are pretty much forced to apply the p.c. doctrine (mandated sensitivity training) to our employees, so as to stay out of court.
Perhaps a couple of lawsuits against a few selected journalists / networks, combined with a demand for sensitivity training, might just do the trick. Sauce for the goose, and all that.
I like it.
Dear Ms. Snow...Drop dead!
February 4, 2007 - 13:59 ET by Clear thinkerDear Ms. Snow...
Drop dead!
village atheist
February 4, 2007 - 14:13 ET by bulbasaurThis crap always reminds me of a really funny comedy album I had when I was a teenager, which had a parody on the vacuity of talk-radio in the 1970s.
A guy calls in, stoned out of his mind and asks, "yeah Dick? If there's a God, uh, why did he let President Kennedy, who was a Catholic, be assassinated?"
Also, I read a nice essay on the idiocy of atheist blowhards in the popular media, where the writer notes how they always begin with a ridiculous premise and then act all pumped up that they smacked you down; the essayist ridiculed the tactic: "if Tony Blair is an octopus, how come he doesn't have 8 legs, huh? huh?"
Liberalism. It's a mystery.
Amen to Pastor Lynn and our p
February 4, 2007 - 14:26 ET by Senior ChiefAmen to Pastor Lynn and our prayers goes to his church people...Indeed everything on this earth is temporal and that's why the basis of our Christian faith is not religion- its on the finish work of our Lord Jesus Christ on that cruel cross of calvary. Why we Christian believed in Christ and His Word? Because, if we all examine the religious leaders of the past, He was(is) the ONLY one who conquered death. If Christ didn't rose back up from death, all of our faith is in vain, and Pastor Lynn, Rev. Graham, et. al. won't be wasting their bretah convincing or teaching us that Chirst indeed is Lord.
Faith is the substance of things hope for and the evidence of things not seen...
Reconciling
February 4, 2007 - 14:27 ET by acumen"How do you reconcile your faith with the enormity of this tragedy?"
I would like to think this question was offered to the good pastor by Snow as an opportunity for him to instruct. However, it is difficult to reconcile any remaining faith in the media after witnessing the enormity of the non-stop tragedy perpetuated by the media (made-up flushed korans, publishing national secrets, etc).
Can it be that Snow feels that Christians are exempt from suffering? Much like the Head of the Christian Church, Jesus, the sacrificial Lamb of God never suffered? (sarcasm off). Once again the media demonstrates their own collective religion where the servant should be above Master.
I only wish the good pastor had reminded Snow that Judeo-Christian scripture professes that suffering came into the world not in any other way other than solely through man's original sin of disobedience to God.
"How do you reconcile yo
February 4, 2007 - 14:53 ET by msh1973"How do you reconcile your faith with the enormity of this tragedy"? What? Pastor Lynn was awesome, he really left Kate Snow speechless. The liberals of the world just don't get it.
God allows both good and bad
February 4, 2007 - 23:52 ET byGod allows both good and bad to happen to both the righteous and the wicked.
The righteous would too quickly forget to turn to God, without anything bad ever happening; and the wicked would have an excuse for not coming to be saved, if nothing bad ever happened.
Bad things in life make or break a person. A person either turns to or away from God while dealing with the bad in life.
For those who turn to God in trying times, they come to learn quickly that what Satan meant for evil, God meant for good. And there is nothing more assuring of one's faith in Christ, than for one to keep their faith in Christ through the worst trial. It can take the worst of trials, for us to feel Christ with us in the fire.
Typical anti-faith bias
February 5, 2007 - 02:56 ET by Mr. TerryWithout getting into a theological debate, which I could well do, I'll relate something interesting.
I work with many former Soviets. My friends were all drafted into their army. They were forced to fill in a blank on their form whether they believed in God or not. If they said that they believed then they were persecuted relentlessly. The persecutors always asked, "Where is your God? Why isn't he helping you now"? They made them suffer then asked why God wasn't helping them.
This is the same mind-set here. Where is your God you silly little preacher?
Will America have to become socialist or communist before we get it? People believe and it doesn't impede their intelligence when they do. No wonder we call the libs elitist. They want to reinstate the aristocracy of the 18th century but George Washington defeated those guys. We had a revolution against such ideas, remember?
Here is a concept that thos
February 5, 2007 - 08:44 ET by annoyedmanHere is a concept that those who believe understand, and those who do not believe and actively resist belief are incapable of understanding:
We don't even know if God caused the tornados. All we know is that He allowed them. Even so, blessed be the name of the Lord. That is a thing that one cannot easily understand, and is contrary to our fallen nature. It certainly is impossible for one who is consumed by pride to understand. How does one attain humility? Through a lifetime of humiliations.
"I never gave anybody hell. I just told them the truth and they thought it was hell." - Harry Truman
Read
February 5, 2007 - 11:17 ET by cvgbuckeyeWhat may be the best way to gain an understanding of this particular subject would be to do a careful reading of th Book of Job. There is so much contained there that it is good to study it with a relatively mature Christian.
By the way, the most repeated command in the Bible appears there 366 times. Once for every day of the year, including leap year. It is (in several varying forms), "Be not afraid".
Oh, I quite agree, and alth
February 5, 2007 - 15:41 ET by annoyedmanOh, I quite agree, and although I am not yet consider myself an expert on Job, I keep striving to learn more. Like Paul, "Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me."
BTW, I was unaware that "Be not afraid" appears 366 times. Interesting.
"I never gave anybody hell. I just told them the truth and they thought it was hell." - Harry Truman