Though all other major news outlets, including his own network's Saturday evening newscast, pegged the number of people who attended Saturday's anti-Iraq war protest rally in Washington, DC as in the “tens of thousands,” CBS's Bob Schieffer led Sunday's Face the Nation by endorsing the exaggerated attendance claims of self-interested organizers as he reminisced about the good old days of Vietnam protests. “Yesterday in Washington,” he recalled, “was like a day from yesteryear -- the war that to many seems long ago and far away: the war in Vietnam. Yesterday, hundreds of thousands of people descended on the capital to protest the war in Iraq.” Schieffer's opening of the January 28 Face the Nation segued into his lead interview with freshman Democratic Senator Jim Webb of Virginia (Republican Senators Arlen Specter and Mitch McConnell were subsequent guests).
“Thousands Protest Bush Policy,” read the front page Washington Post headline over a story which reported: “Under a blue sky with a pale midday moon, tens of thousands of people angry about the war and other policies of the Bush administration danced, sang, shouted and chanted their opposition.”
Sunday's New York Times story began: “Tens of thousands of protesters converged on the National Mall on Saturday to oppose President Bush’s plan for a troop increase in Iraq...” Deep in the article, Times reporter Ian Urbina relayed what may have been Schieffer's source for his wildly inflated claim: “Police officials declined to provide crowd estimates, but Hany Khalil, a spokesman for United for Peace and Justice, said the protesters numbered about 400,000.”
The AP's dispatch on the protest explained: “United for Peace and Justice, a coalition group sponsoring the protest, had hoped 100,000 would come. They claimed even more afterward, but police, who no longer give official estimates, said privately the crowd was smaller than 100,000.”
And if Schieffer didn't believe the Washington Post, New York Times or the AP, he certainly didn't show much respect for his CBS News Washington bureau colleague Joie Chen, who related on Saturday's CBS Evening News (as recounted in Brad Wilmouth's NewsBusters posting):
“But for all the tie dye and familiar chants, the anti-war movement has moved on and changed direction. Today's protest didn't go near the White House, instead leading tens of thousands up Constitution Avenue to the Capitol, bearing a message for the new Congress, now controlled by Democrats.”
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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Sighhhh, the good ol' anti Ve
January 28, 2007 - 17:40 ET by HumanEventsSighhhh, the good ol' anti Veitnam war days, eh Bob Schieffer? And hundreds of thousands were at the anti Iraq (really anti Bush) war march, eh? Hooboy.
Well, I guess since CBS had said this march meant "the nation says no" and Bob's show is called "Face the Nation", he was actually engaging in honest reporting - simply facing the "nation".
Schieffer may conduct himself in a much nicer manner than most in the MSM but his ideology is still as far to the left as the rest of them.
i would not dislike Schieffer
January 29, 2007 - 10:14 ET by buddyci would not dislike Schieffer as much as do if he were anti war. what i dislike so much about him is he is a flunky for the liberals. if this were a democrat administration and the size of the crowd were a million, he would not mention it.
where does cbs find people like this?
Let's call these people what
January 29, 2007 - 15:04 ET by DRM 23Let's call these people what they really are. The are not anti-war........they are anti-American. Let's get a steamroller and take them all out.
Super-lib mentality...
January 28, 2007 - 17:53 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasGood old super-libs...."we want you to respond aggressively to AIDS in Africa but terrorism in Iraq...nahhhhh". Idiots. The terrorists are AIDS viruses that need eliminated one by one and the only treatment for it is what we are doing now x5.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
I challenge these so-called &
January 29, 2007 - 11:30 ET by TruthMongerI challenge these so-called "peace-activists" to organize JUST ONE MAJOR D.C. PROTEST AGAINST AL QUEDA by the end of 2007...
Took math from the million ma
January 28, 2007 - 18:01 ET by danboTook math from the million man march, hey Bob. Been to a whole lot of mardi gras. the crowd I saw on c-span didn't look that big.
As we keep being told the nation is so against this war. With a population of 260-70 million.Your numbers aren't that impressing. That's even less than watch you.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
Wait a second...it just occur
January 28, 2007 - 18:06 ET by Eric TurnerWait a second...it just occurred to me...this is the same group of people who believe 350,000 Iraqis have died due to Coalition troops. One Million March....100,000 at the protest yesterday....
No wonder they want to give up the War on Terrorism. They see a few thousand terrorists and mistake them for a few million! In their eyes we've already lost.
This is all part of that fuzzy math.
AKA: armyvet
What can I say. Math is not t
January 28, 2007 - 18:15 ET by danboWhat can I say. Math is not their strong suit. If they don't get the numbers they want. They bring you to court to get them.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
MsM / Liberal Math
January 28, 2007 - 18:20 ET by Blondedanbo,
They must teach it in journalism school. You know, MsM Math.
Wherein thousands become hundreds of thousands.
Polls become reality.
And if they don't care for the outcome of the addition, they call for the abolishment of the electoral college.
Like that.
Oh, and your right, I forgot about the Calculus of Litigation. Thanks for the reminder.
It's probably a required clas
January 28, 2007 - 19:38 ET by danboIt's probably a required class.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
I think today's journalists
January 28, 2007 - 19:44 ET by JerryI think today's journalists must be graduating from Madrassa U, where they learn to hate America and freedom and Christians, etc.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Draft
January 28, 2007 - 21:06 ET by M J BReinstate the draft & you will see hundreds of thousands on the street; both Democrat & Republican!
Actually some 650,000 Iraqi casualties have been incurred since the invasion.
Is that the Charlie Rangel dr
January 28, 2007 - 21:27 ET by Eric TurnerIs that the Charlie Rangel draft you're refering to? Man, the libs really want the draft then their comparison of Iraq to Vietnam would be (as Darth Vader would say) "complete".
Where you getting your numbers? Care to provide any real statistical data there? I mean veriable? Not just political hogwash type stuff.
Oh, I agree...Bush stopped being a conservative some time ago. So don't try to group me in as a Bush defender or lover.
AKA: armyvet
The only one who has been bla
January 28, 2007 - 21:32 ET by bigtimerThe only one who has been blathering on for two or more years now to start the draft up again is a leftist, and not a very smart one either, Charlie Rangel, Harlem, NY.
A democrat.
That tell ya anything MJB...eh?
BT,You nailed that one. The o
January 28, 2007 - 21:35 ET by BlondeBT,
You nailed that one.
The only one who has been blathering on for two or more years now to start the draft up again is a leftist, and not a very smart one either, Charlie Rangel, Harlem, NY.
Laughing.
Hey! I said Charlie Rangel
January 28, 2007 - 21:38 ET by Eric TurnerHey! I said Charlie Rangel too! :(
*pouting*
;-)
AKA: armyvet
So you did.Guess that makes R
January 28, 2007 - 21:46 ET by BlondeSo you did.
Guess that makes Rangel doubly dumb. ;-D
All p###d off
January 28, 2007 - 21:51 ET by M J BI did NOT advocate the use of the draft! You surmised otherwise.I just said ALL would be upset by the reinstatement of it including Republicans. Don't put words in my mouth.
MJB...You and you alone used
January 28, 2007 - 21:58 ET by bigtimerMJB...
You and you alone used the word draft...
What do you think when you say something like that... you think absolutely nobody is not going to ask what the heck you mean or state an opinion?
Geesh...you trying to pick a fight?
He knew exactly what he was d
January 28, 2007 - 22:01 ET by Eric TurnerHe knew exactly what he was doing. He responded to my numbers comment and the ability of liberals to function in math.
AKA: armyvet
MJB...BTW your over-inflated
January 28, 2007 - 22:01 ET by bigtimerMJB...
BTW your over-inflated of the Iraqi casualties is getting very tiresome.
I think you belong on another site...you lost your way back to it.
Google in DU or KOS, Huff n' Puff...moveon.
You'll find your way home.
650,000?Really?And your sourc
January 29, 2007 - 13:38 ET by TheDeuce650,000?
Really?
And your source for this figure is...?
Probably Charlie Rangel, the leftist who called for a draft, prior to mistakenly infering that the military is less-educated than the general public and is really just an 'out' for the poor who can't find a 'good' job.
Yet Another Liberal Troll
January 30, 2007 - 11:33 ET by emjem24Troll alert, troll alert, I think we have a winner. BTW, MJB, you're full of it. The 650,000 number has been disproven and is a myth. I love how anti-war folks such as yourself always bring up the "plight" of the poor, poor Iraqi civiilians and American troops when it's convenient to play on the emotions of this country. However, when real facts and arguments enter the picture, the reason of this movement flees like the French in a Hitler second. So, please, stop trying to convince us you have any credible, unbiased leg to stand on because anytime that Iraqi casualti number surfaces, a troll has entered the arena (probably from either DailyKos or Huff 'n Puff).
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
MJB...I would say that if the
January 30, 2007 - 11:46 ET by bassndudeMJB...I would say that if there are 650,000 dead iraqis, and I suppose that includes all those killed in Iraq of other nationalities, (terrorists), I think thats a pretty good kill ratio. Whats your real beef here? Reinstate the draft? I for one am not opposed to that. I served with many a draftee while I was in.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I heard B.S.'s B.S. this mo
January 28, 2007 - 18:13 ET by bigtimerI heard B.S.'s B.S. this morning...
Alzheimer's anyone?
Exaggeration of numbers seems to be only something the left know how to do....along with everything else..
Agenda.
Defeat.
Hatred of President Bush...and all conservatives.
Agenda at any cost.
The enemy within...hard at work with their propaganda.
Fight them we must.
Bush
January 28, 2007 - 21:11 ET by M J BBUSH is NOT a conservative. Get it right. The USA can handle a Conservative but not Bush. Bush is in his own world.
"Bush is in his own worl
January 28, 2007 - 21:25 ET by acumen"Bush is in his own world."
Yes Bush is in his own world. Bush dwells in a world the Mediacrats have built for him. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Like so many Americans today, I'll bet you were singing a different tune about Bush the morning of 9/11. It's not Bush I am ashamed of. I am only ashamed of so many fairweather Republicans/conservatives that decide to bail after the Mediacrats sold them a six plus years of doom and gloom picture of Bush. I suppose these same folks want to now tell me that they would have preferred a President Gore or Kerry.
Who you talkin' to MJB?
January 28, 2007 - 21:26 ET by bigtimerWho you talkin' to MJB?
ACA,I've seen you ask twice w
January 28, 2007 - 19:11 ET by BlondeACA,
I've seen you ask twice whether ANSWER was a sponsor of yeserday's little Hanoi Jane fest. Here's a list of some of the groups sponsoring the great deja-vu fest. Impressive group of commies and socialists, huh?
If it quacks like a duck....
Thanks Blonde. I saw the list.
January 28, 2007 - 19:21 ET by acaiguanaThanks Blonde. I saw the list.
Young Communists League. Right.
ACA
...
Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
ACA,If I'm this furious at Ha
January 28, 2007 - 19:24 ET by BlondeACA,
If I'm this furious at Hanoi Jane's antics, I can only imagine your ire.
I have nothing to say about her here that wouldn't get me banned.
Jane Fonda is just a dried up old woman.
January 28, 2007 - 19:31 ET by acaiguanaJane Fonda is just a dried up old woman.
Mouthing plattitudes to a handful of aging pathetic ex-hippies who don't even today understand what pawns they have always been.
Sigh.
ACA
...
Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
ACA,Well I despise them all.A
January 28, 2007 - 19:37 ET by BlondeACA,
Well I despise them all.
And the fawning over them by the MsM.
I hope they learned their lesson during Vietnam about treating the troops with the same disdain they had for the war.
Because if I ever see anything like that happen here, in an airport or in another public place, I hope you have enough money to bail me out of jail.
Blonde, I'll bail ya out. P
January 28, 2007 - 19:44 ET by Eric TurnerBlonde, I'll bail ya out. Promise. Just call - anytime.
AKA: armyvet
blonde...I had better not
January 28, 2007 - 19:34 ET by ww thumperblonde...I had better not even start about hanoi jane...i would also be banned and tracked down and arrested for the vile "crime " of "hate speach" ww v Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......V
Many of us would be banned an
January 28, 2007 - 19:37 ET by danboMany of us would be banned and facing hate crime tribunals.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H.L. Mencken
Vietnam
January 28, 2007 - 19:56 ET by iveseenitallWatching this, words cannot describe the sickening disgust felt by those of us who lived through the Vietnam era. The scum of the earth, those sans conscience, daring to return and march but a few miles from the wall which bears the names of the heroes who made the supreme sacrifice for the very freedom they so enjoy and so abuse. And to see that they've learned nothing, that they still will not fight or even support those who do. May these spoiled dirtbags burn in Hell.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Jane Fonda - Traitor....
January 28, 2007 - 19:46 ET by Eric TurnerI just remember when I first joined the Army in 1985 seeing all the bumper stickers on post with "Hanoi Jane - Traitor B***h" on the back. Lots of Vietnam vets were still in back then and they recall her (a-hem) "fondly."
AKA: armyvet
Gee, Eric,Maybe you could get
January 28, 2007 - 19:50 ET by BlondeGee, Eric,
Maybe you could get your internet business started up tomorrow....selling "Hanoi / Tehran Jane - Traitor Bi***" bumper stickets.
I'll put one on my T-Bird.
Since you've agreed to bail me out of jail and all. ;-)
I could sell them with my tin
January 28, 2007 - 20:01 ET by Eric TurnerI could sell them with my tinfoil hats on ebay! Cool idea.
I prefer "Hanoi/Jihad Jane - Traitor Bi***"
That's mighty American of you buying ONE since I'll bail ya out! ;-)
AKA: armyvet
Well, hopefully you won't hav
January 28, 2007 - 20:04 ET by BlondeWell, hopefully you won't have to bail me out until after you've become the next famous internet millionaire.
Speaking of tinfoil hats....did you see them all at the Beach Impeach? LOL....the idiots actually put tinfoil on their heads!!!!
Oh yes. I saw them. When I
January 28, 2007 - 20:12 ET by Eric TurnerOh yes. I saw them. When I get my ebay auction up. I'll post a link to it. You better bid though! (on the tinfoil hat that is). I'll throw in a bumper sticker for you though! ;-)
AKA: armyvet
I wonder if the tin foil hats
January 29, 2007 - 08:49 ET by Mica the MagnificentI wonder if the tin foil hats were custom made or off the rack?
I'll be offering both off the
January 29, 2007 - 13:49 ET by Eric TurnerI'll be offering both off the rack and custom designed (for the hollywood jetset only though). The rest of you minions and peons will have to deal with the "off the rack" type.
What a liar! Hundreds of t
January 28, 2007 - 20:11 ET by Richard RomanoWhat a liar! Hundreds of thousands? Goodness me...they just parrotted the AP, not bothering to check....a few thousand more like it, and a bunch of crackpots among them too: communists, anarchists, socialists, and conspiracy theorists....not exactly "main stream" America, Mr. MSM robot.
Anti-war crowd
January 28, 2007 - 20:27 ET by pbthinkerIt seems this group had little else to do, between 1974 and now and this is their big shot to relive, what they consider, their glory days.
It's also a time for the media to make another point about Vietnam/Iraq yet they care little about the differences. Having gone through Vietnam, in the military, I know the men in Iraq are going through some tough times. They're there, they know the mission, they see the results, yet they also see the news from home and wonder what the hell is going on.
Hanoi Jane must be very sad they can't go meet Bin Laden and shake his hand and call him a wonderful man, who's being tormented by the evil Bush.
pbthinker
January 28, 2007 - 20:31 ET by whodatPerhaps they could shake Saddam and Zaraqawi's hands....
Bush 43 Funeral Hundreds of Thousands to Attend!
January 28, 2007 - 20:28 ET by whodatWhen the day comes that Bush 43 takes the inevitable dirt nap hundreds of thousands will attend.....Jane Fonda...not so much.
I wish we could dig comments
January 28, 2007 - 21:59 ET by Eric TurnerI wish we could dig comments here like you can at digg or DailyKos. I'd digg your comment!
AKA: armyvet
Pre war in Afghanistan protests were bigger than this wks
January 28, 2007 - 21:19 ET by blackrain4xmashttp://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/oct2001/nyc-o12.shtml
When I look at the lower fo
January 28, 2007 - 21:54 ET by Right2thePointWhen I look at the lower foto, why do I have the image of Jane groping her butt and the other asking if she was free later?
As far as Bob goes, god gives lifespans it is a self regulating correction.
Kerry SUPPORTS Civ Nuclear for Iran..see link
January 28, 2007 - 22:09 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI didn't believe my eyes when I read this but John Kerry fully supports
Iran's right to use civilian nuclear technology under the NTP. What was so shocking were the additional comments he made at the Economic Forum in Switzerland...extremely hostile and insulting comments toward America. What a piece of garbage this man has shown himself to be, insulting his own country overseas...wait I think we have seen this before in the Dixiechicks and well, we know the rest of that story. His anti-americanism just gets worse and worse.
Here is a link to Jeremiah Wright claiming "we started AIDS" (he is the Pastor of none other than Barack Obama's Pastor) and "no black woman will ever be considered for anyting outside of what she can give with her body" her further claims "racism is the American way". The website for the church Obama attends is a black racist church with a Marxist message claiming to be Christian. Trinity United Church of Christ.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
I can't recall a dictator/com
January 28, 2007 - 22:21 ET by bigtimerI can't recall a dictator/communist regime anywhere in this world that Kerry and other dem's Kennedy, Harkin, Rockefeller to name a few... haven't stood by.
Speaks volumes about the dem party does it not?
Obama and his church!
January 28, 2007 - 22:28 ET by Eric TurnerWell, I just think it's a darn good thing that church isn't giving its tacit approval and endorsement of Obama's campaign! We wouldn't want to appear to violate the "separation of church and state" now would we?
AKA: armyvet
Did you see the 12 points t
January 28, 2007 - 22:56 ET by JerryDid you see the 12 points that must be practiced at all gatherings according to Obama's church?
and acquired skills available to the Black Community
for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
the Black Value System.
Replace the word "black" with "white" and substitute a republican for Obama, and how do you think the press would treat it?
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Choir Boy
January 28, 2007 - 23:01 ET by JimboThey would make David Duke look like a choir boy.
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
obama's church
January 28, 2007 - 23:02 ET by Eric TurnerDo you have a link?
AKA: armyvet
It is linked to in Guy Arth
January 28, 2007 - 23:03 ET by JerryIt is linked to in Guy Arthur Thomas's last paragraph (above).
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Oh hello. Thanks. I went to
January 28, 2007 - 23:07 ET by Eric TurnerOh hello. Thanks. I went to the link. I just didn't click on the right one after that.
AKA: armyvet
I went to that link and then
January 29, 2007 - 14:15 ET by Clear thinkerI went to that link and then read their mission statement. Below I have posted a portion of the MS hoping someone can tell me what the heck they mean by it.
We, as a church family, acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are",
Who we are and whose we are...
January 29, 2007 - 14:25 ET by Guy Arthur Thomas"Who we are" refers must refer to their racial identity (no apologies about their African roots...so much for white congregates...I wonder then if that results in Obama attending only half the time)and alleged Christian identity and the "whose we are" is a common description used by the Christian church referring to belonging to God.
What I did find amusing in their Mission Statement is this:
"We are called out to be a "chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds."
Notice what they do pay attention to of course is...race.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal. Go Rudy!
Guy AT...Wow, I consider myse
January 29, 2007 - 15:15 ET by Clear thinkerGuy AT...
Wow, I consider myself a Christian and don't think I have ever heard the term 'whose we are'. I will have to take your word for it.
I noticed the race seperation also. Part fo their mission stated they are an inclusive church hobnobbing with both smart and dumb, and rich and poor. Is this news for Christianity, I was raised to include any and all in our church.
What is a black work ethic?
January 29, 2007 - 13:57 ET by Dan The Man 2What is a black work ethic? It would be interesting to see the unemployment figures and compare them to what a black work ethic is?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
I'd love someone in the MSM t
January 29, 2007 - 16:42 ET by TheDeuceI'd love someone in the MSM to ask him to define this seperate 'black value system' and how one embraces it.
I won't hold my breath.
Someone please tell me Hill
January 29, 2007 - 01:55 ET by Right2thePointSomeone please tell me Hillary is not a pure socialist tye dyed and true.
She might as well chose Putin as her running mate, he will be available soon.
Putin is far too conservati
January 29, 2007 - 02:14 ET by American InfidelPutin is far too conservative for Hillary. She needs someone much closer to Stalin.....like.....Obama or Kennedy or Harkin.
We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States.
Ann Coulter
With Obama in the race, Clint
January 29, 2007 - 16:45 ET by TheDeuceWith Obama in the race, Clinton can stand still and the MSM will portray her as a 'moderate'. She's moved to the center simply by not being this empty suit Barak. Great for her...terrible for honesty in journalism.
Schieffer Has No Credible Leg To Stand On
January 30, 2007 - 11:43 ET by emjem24This man is unbelievable (and an old fogey). I wish his ilk, particularly the Tom Brokaws and Dan Rathers of the world would just move on to a blissful retirement. I mean, we're not living in the Vietnam War era anymore, Bob, ya know? I love how the comparisons between the two wars are abundant but there are no facts, arguments, or even basic rationale to back them up. Not many showed up at this protest and when they did, they decided to spit on a pro-war, Iraq War veteran who also exercised his constitutional rights. It's interesting how these people will use veterans when it suits them but when they don't agree with the "peace" (more like anarchy movement) movement they spit on them. No, no contradiction at all there, huh, Bob?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
I dont care how you look at i
January 30, 2007 - 11:52 ET by bassndudeI dont care how you look at it, it is still the same faces, same attitudes and the same ignorant bunch that is protesting now, as were protesting 40 years ago. Tim Robbins, Susan S., S. Penn and that traitorus tramp Jane, I have a big gun between my legs, Fonda!! God help me, I hate that slut!!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!