CNN anchor Lou Dobbs appeared with the ladies on ABC's The View to deliver some rather liberal opinions. He stumped for a minimum wage increase, railed against the influence big corporations have on politics, and pushed for universal healthcare. Interestingly, Dobbs was not grilled the way Bill O’Reilly was on the same show several months ago. Also of note, the co-hosts did not even touch illegal immigration, the one issue where Lou Dobbs is famously conservative.
Rosie O’Donnell asked the question she has been obsessing on lately.
O’Donnell: "Mr Dobbs, do you think that some Senator for principle, if not for follow through, should call for the impeachment of George Bush?"
Dobbs did not answer the question, perhaps because he does not want to upset his CNN colleague Jack Cafferty. Instead, Dobbs sighed and exclaimed "boy" before listing his complaints about Bush administration failings. ABC went to a hard break before O'Donnell and Joy Behar could get a definitive yes or no out of him.
Video clip of Dobbs failing to reject the idea of impeaching President Bush, ending with ABC's hard ad break (56 seconds): Real (1.7 MB) or Windows Media (1.9 MB), plus MP3 audio (400 KB)
The entire transcript is below.
Rosie O’Donnell: "Lou Dobbs was a lifelong Republican. Who knew I would become such a big fan? But when I realized he had a voice beyond partisanship, he won me over. I love his book. I love his show. His latest book, 'War on the Middle Class,' tells us who's winning and who's losing. Please welcome Lou Dobbs to the show."
[Cheers and applause]
O’Donnell: "How are you, sir? Great to see you. So Lou Dobbs, how did 9/11 change your life and career?"
Lou Dobbs: "Well, I think it changed all our lives. Like most people who live and work in New York, I lost people I knew, friends. I took it personally. I think most Americans took it personally. It raised the standard, I think, for all of us, both in government, in the conduct of our lives, and certainly for us as journalists.
O’Donnell: "Now, why is it that some took 9/11 and sort of used it to fuel sort of the rhetoric and a hatred and divisiveness in the country and you sort of took it in the opposite direction?"
Dobbs: "Well, I think that's a choice for all of us. I, I think one of the unfortunate things that we've seen happen in this country is, while we're engaged in a global war on radical Islamist terror, we focus on fear, we focus on limitations, and this country has a tradition of focusing on hope, on aspiration and achievement. And I think too much time in the public dialogue in the national leadership has been on fear and limitations rather than achieving what we should."
Tina Fey: "This is being bugged."
O’Donnell: "Yeah, really. George Bush is bugging this room. You people at home don't hear it but there's tremendous breakup in the speakers right when you were talking about government. But I'm sure it's just an audio problem and it's not a conspiracy. What do you think about the minimum wage issue we were talking about in the beginning of the show?"
Dobbs: "I've been calling for the minimum wage to be raised for years. You pointed out, $5.15 an hour. The fact that the Senate blocked it, we put up on our website those Senators who insisted upon business tax breaks to be coupled with a minimum wage increase. To me it is absolutely heinous and reprehensible that Congress, and both parties, frankly, are responsible, but primarily the Republican party, chose not to raise the minimum wage. This nonsense that the minimum wages somehow will make it impossible for small business to function, to make profits and create jobs, is absurd. In point of fact, Congress is only following the lead of the states. 28 states and the District of Columbia have already raised the minimum wages, their minimum wages, above the the federal level. And guess what? Studies between 1997 and 2004 show that those states that have raised the minimum wage are actually prospering. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the principled voice of business in this country now, unfortunately, is utterly wrong. It's conducting a propaganda campaign. You know, if there is such a resistance to the minimum wage, you wonder why the Chamber of Commerce, the Business Roundtable doesn't come out and say, you know, 'Congress, why don't you roll back those eight pay increases that you gave yourself over that course of a decade?'"
O’Donnell: "It says in the polls, 83 percent of Americans are in favor of raising the minimum wage."
Joy Behar: "They don't seem to pay attention to what the American people say."
O’Donnell: "How is it that Congress and the government now seems to be so out of touch with the wants and desires of their constituents?"
Dobbs: "In part because both the Democratic and Republican parties are owned lock, stock and barrel by corporate America. Big business and special interests spend over $2 billion a year to lobby 536 folks in Washington, the president, 100 Senators, 435 Congressmen and women. No wonder the middle class, some 250 to 280 million people in this country can't find a voice in Washington. There is hope. There's a possibility. The Democrats have an opportunity in Congress."
Behar: "Do you think they'll rise to the occasion?"
Dobbs: "I have to say they did manage to pass the ethics reform. It's not as strong as any of us would have liked, but at least it's a start. The failure, the failure on the minimum wage is annoying as the dickens."
Behar: "But you said it was primarily the Republican party that voted against it. How many Democrats actually voted against it out of 50 Sen- out of 100 Senators?"
Dobbs: "The point of fact, they got a majority vote, but they need 60 to move to legislation."
Behar: "So this is the fault of the Republican party?"
Dobbs: "Oh, no question about it, no question about it."
Fey: "You're an independent now."
Dobbs: "Yes, ma'am."
Fey: "Do you feel there's no difference between the two parties, which I whole heartedly agree that there's too much overlap."
Dobbs: "There's not enough difference. And the way I see it, Tina, I believe in the two-party system. Just that right now I don't believe in either of these parties. They have sorely disappointed us. The level of national leadership, the quality of national leadership in this country -- 300 million people have got to be able to do better than that."
Behar: "You haven't given the Democrats a chance yet. They just got in and they have some incredible candidates out there right now. We mentioned Webb before. We've got Obama, you know, there's Joe Biden, there's Hillary. I think you have a lot of, a lot of talent now."
O’Donnell: "But what he's saying, Elisabeth, Joy, is that there's not a lot of difference between big business owning and lobbying a Republican Senator verses a Democratic Senator."
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: "It's not about the people anymore, is essentially what you're saying."
Dobbs: "300 million people. In 2004 we put forward two candidates. Kerry and Bush, both men of privilege, from privileged families, both Yale educated, both members of skull and bones. Now that's diversity, isn't it?"
[Applause]
Behar: "And also, weren't they both C students?"
Hasselbeck: "You're also pretty furious over the healthcare situation going on in the country. Do you think universal healthcare is the solution?"
Dobbs: "I think it absolutely is. There is no excuse for this country not to provide health care for all -- we've got the best health care system in the world. How can we reasonableably deny that system and great care to anyone? And principally, by the way, it's the middle class. It's not the poor. We have medicaid and medicare for the poor and aged and infirm. In the middle class, half of whom are making less than $35,000 a year in this country."
Behar: "A lot of doctors, they don't take medicare, you know. I'm not on it yet, yet. But, but they don't take it. They don't take, they don't take insurance, either. I mean, you have to do a third party put it in. I mean, it's amazing what it costs to get a mammogram these days."
Hasselbeck: "If the universal health plan is a solution, how do you implement that without removing the competition from companies, and making it hard to get your-"
Dobbs: "Here is what competition has bought us right now, and that's what this administration has been pushing, the Republican party, for a long time. What competition has bought us is more than double-digit increases in health care costs. 48 million Americans don't have health insurance and meanwhile this administration and corporate America are arguing that gold-plated insurance, health care insurance is just, you know, it's overdone, and we've got to roll it back. That's what competition has brought you. There are other ways to achieve competition and reasonable care. First, take care of the people."
O’Donnell: "Right. Mr. Dobbs, do you think that some Senator for principle, if not for follow through, should call for the impeachment of George Bush?"
Dobbs: [Sigh]"Boy --"
[Laughter]
Dobbs: "You put a fellow who prides himself on being a straight talk, yeah."
O’Donnell: "Well, that's why I ask you because there are very few people you could ask that to in the public eye. And I'm just curious if."
Behar: "You're not running for anything you can tell."
[Laughter]
O’Donnell: "Do you think that this nation should do it to say this that, if nothing else, to tell the rest of the world this is what we stand for?"
Dobbs: "I have to say, that when we look at the performance of this administration on healthcare, on the minimum wage, on free trade, 30 consecutive years of trade deficits, now a few trillion in debt, the conduct of this war and kindly the dissembling-"
O’Donnell: "Yes or no? We've got five seconds, sir."
Behar, forming her hand into the shape of a gun and pointing it at Dobbs: "Yes or no? Come on! Gun to the head."
Dobbs: "I would encourage Senators or Congressman-"
O’Donnell: "Ah, Lou, you disappoint me."
[ABC then went to black, because of a hard ad break about 56 minutes into the hour, then to an ad]





Dobbs: "I have to say, that when we look at the performance of this administration on healthcare, on the minimum wage, on free trade, 30 consecutive years of trade deficits, now a few trillion in debt, the conduct of this war and kindly the dissembling-"















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Conservative on immigration?
January 25, 2007 - 18:58 ET by Chris NormanConservative on immigration? I would say that Dobbs is a populist on all these issues, bordering on the demagogic. Even if his demogoguery happens to brush against the conservative view on immigration, I, for one, don't want him our team...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Under what high crime and misdemeanor Rosie ?
January 26, 2007 - 04:56 ET by SportPoliticsUnder what high crime and misdemeanor Rosie ?
I was hoping to hear that, so she could scream he lied us into the war. Maybe she would cackle the patriot act.
I'd like to hear what the idiodems think they have as far as any evidence.
The truth, the big problem is, if they actually try to Impeach Bush, all their years of flat out lies will become blatantly apparent to the interested American public, and their hate Bush machine will crumble to the ground and disintegrate, and they would be in very, very big trouble with the populace.
They don't DARE even try it with anything they have whined about, it would crush them to powder.
Now, if they happen to come up with some never heard of before issue, we'll talk.
Sporty, they know that Presid
January 26, 2007 - 05:05 ET by rdave63Sporty, they know that President Bush is not impeachable. However, they know that if they keep throwing that phrase around, sooner or later, it will stick in peoples mind that he was no better than Clinton. In Fatty O'donuts own words, If they keep feeding people crap, soon they will think it is food. She should listen to her own words. How well she exposes her own hypocracy.
Ahh, I get it
January 26, 2007 - 05:34 ET by SportPoliticsAhh, I get it, and they can excuse themselves and say they don't want to distract the nation from the war on terror in so doing. LOLOL
( that's what I've heard as their excuse )
So let's see, no bringing home the troops, no cutting off funding, no impeachment, nothing but whining lies to make Bush look bad, and after they've screamed that every single thing he has done has been a complete failure and a total catastrophe, and a massive ruse and lie to get us into war ( We're talking Pelosi HERSELF openly saying it over and over again) they can't bone up any impeachment papers.
Gee, they are LIARS, MASSIVE LIARS.
Maybe a non binding resolution expressing their " disturbed not real opinion that they cannot implement because they are not really congress but brainless and ballless babbling wonders that should allow them to keep pretending to be what they are not and don't dare implement because they're scared to death they would be tossed out on their rear ends or Al Qaeda would blow them to bits in DC, or both. "
Yep, that's about the real deal. Fake, plastic people.
Couldn't have put it any bett
January 26, 2007 - 05:41 ET by rdave63Couldn't have put it any better myself. I think you nailed it. Basically, have no facts, no legal authority, but run the mouth long enough and and the gullible idiots that follow the left will follow their voice. Then it somehow becomes truth.
Rosie: "Ah,Lou, you dis
January 25, 2007 - 19:04 ET by HumanEventsRosie: "Ah,Lou, you disappoint me."
Yeah he disappointed me, too, Rosie. For not having the courage and common sense to say how clearly ludicrous your "impeach Bush" garbage is.
Rosie: "Lou Dobbs was a lifelong Republican. Who knew I would become such a lifelong fan? But when I realized he had a voice beyond partisanship, he won me over?"
Oh really? Then why didn't Zell Miller win you over when you saw he put his principles over blindly supporting the Democrat nominee in '04? It's because to liberals like Rotund Rosie, non-partisan means Republicans caving in to what Democrats want.
Lou Dobbs
January 25, 2007 - 19:14 ET by Jerry MackI have watched Lou Dobbs show on occassion. This interview is no different from his show. He tries to be all things to all the people by continually pointing out what he sees as problems. But with very few answers or solutions.
He answered the question at t
January 25, 2007 - 21:01 ET by Trouble2KHe answered the question at the end of his show this evening saying that no we shouldn't impeach the president. Just an FYI
"A satellite has no conscience."
Dobbs dodged the question again. Slimy bastard!
January 26, 2007 - 03:52 ET by Ted ClarkeTrouble2K wrote:
"He answered the question at the end of his show this evening saying that no we shouldn't impeach the president. Just an FYI"
Yes, it's true that he said "no" to Bush's impeachment. But did you catch the spineless way he packaged it?
First, he threw his audience a bone by characterizing Clinton's impeachment as pointless and uncalled for. And second, he disapproved of impeachment not because it was an absurd idea, but because it meant Cheney would become President. So I guess that means if some other person were V.P. he would vote "yes" to impeachment. He couldn't get any more slimy or gutless with that carefully crafted dodge. He had to sound like he was a reasonable commentator while at the same time tossing his Leftist moonbat audience some red meat and the tasty bone. It's sickening.
Agreed Ted. And the left wi
January 26, 2007 - 04:02 ET by rdave63Agreed Ted. And the left wing looneys keep throwing out that phrase, "impeach Bush" all the while they know that he is not impeachable. He has not committed ANY impeachable offense. The war was NOT an "illegal war" like some of the left wing fanatics are constantly screaming. It just gripes me to no end that the MSM, knowing full well, that our President has never committed high crimes or misdemeanors, will recklessly keep throwing that impeach Bush phrase around, just to tarnish our president's image. Biased morons!!!
That impeach Bush mantra has
January 26, 2007 - 04:23 ET by bigtimerThat impeach Bush mantra has been an agenda for years, even if we would of never been attacked, that was the plan from the left, hand in hand with the media with Shrillary leading the way to get even with what she saw through her evil eyes was done to her precious little rapist of a husband's legacy.
Well, of course it won't work, she is a vindictive witch, and she thinks she and she alone with some of the media, have been able to black-mail, pay off, coerce, to rewrite history, problem is Shrill, we have video, evidence, in courtroms too...
Earth to Hill, earth to Hill, your partner in crime has been caught, you can't undo it, you can't try to make some other man look bad because that is your partners middle name, but hey Hill, you are a four letter word, always have been, always will be...EVIL.
What the Shrillmeister has done in the Senate I could write a book about, she has had every step planned out...when Bush was getting everything through he planned on, with the Republicans in the majority, who in the heck do you think got Jeffords to switch...this had to stop, she had to start voting on judges, it was something to see in the Senate, she was a lone vote against a judge, it was hysterical, well it wasn't too long after that the Senate changed with Jeffords...too much was happening she could not let happen, it was something else to behold. She had to put a stop to it and she did.
She is a dangerous woman... she is the devil in disguise...seriously...she is evil....beware...she is not done yet.
We must stop her.
Agreed BT. I just cannot, f
January 26, 2007 - 04:31 ET by rdave63Agreed BT. I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why others cannot see how phony this b@#ch is. Maybe its easier for me (I was a well trained cop, before becoming a lawyer), but I can soooo easily see behind her mask. Her mask, is so damn transparent. Does this not scare anyone??? WAKE UP AMERICA, DAMN!!!
Lou Dobbs
January 26, 2007 - 16:01 ET by Jerry MackI stand by what I said. He tries to be all things to all the people. Other wise he would have answered the question on the View. I doubt that less than 5% of the View audience watch his program and vice-versa. I would be stunned if Rosie ever announces the answer he gave on his show.
Lou Dobbs has been trying to
January 25, 2007 - 23:12 ET by bigtimerLou Dobbs has been trying to recoup the money he put into space.com when the Clinton ride of the dot. coms bubble burst.....
Poof!
Poor baby!
Another leftist cry baby...whaaaaaah!
Somebody really needs to put that binkey in his mouth.
Oh...I forgot, CNN did! He swallowed his so-called pride and went back to work for CNN...it's his binkey and he's stickin' to it!
Another example of liberal me
January 26, 2007 - 01:46 ET by kathleenirishAnother example of liberal media bias, but also of their elitism and wish to rule...you can't tell the difference between journalists (so-called) and politicians running for office. They see themselves as imperial. And, they have the freakin' gall to say our President acts like a King. Hardly.
P.S. Rosie, you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. Try and dress yourself up all you want. You're still an unattractive,obnoxious, unAmerican big mouth. Hope you get a chronic case of laryngitis asap. God, shut up, you gobshite!
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
O' Donnel that would be, because
January 26, 2007 - 05:40 ET by SportPoliticsO' Donnel that tremendous breakup in the speakers that we don't hear when you're talking about government would be, not GWB bugging your room, you raving lunatic liberal freak, but because 2 or 3 of you are all screaming your insane liberal opinions at top decibel level and the crowd is cheering and jeering wildly, as you shout down the hot republican blonde, the one with common sense.
Ok, its late night, no childr
January 26, 2007 - 05:46 ET by rdave63Ok, its late night, no children around and we are all adults. Time to throw this out.
Rosie is so dumb, that when she wanted to marry her girlfriend, she applied for a liquor license.
And rdave63
January 26, 2007 - 06:02 ET by SportPoliticsAnd rdave63, Rosie is so plumb, that a large paintroller is on the gift list.
No wonder the middle class,
January 26, 2007 - 05:55 ET by Jack BauerNo wonder the middle class, some 250 to 280 million people in this country can't find a voice in Washington.
Err, hang on a doggone minute.
In a population of 300 million, 280 million are middle-class? That's 93.3% of the American people are middle-class according to Dobbs.
If we take the hyper rich leeches the "progressives" are always whining about, to be 1%, that means the "poor" make up a mere 5.7% of the population.
Talk about a success story. That's the most successful society in human history. Way to go America.
a "progressive" = a socialist = a commie in drag = laughably wrong about life, the universe and everything
Good catch Jack Bauer
January 26, 2007 - 06:18 ET by SportPoliticsGood catch Jack Bauer.
Dan Rather can't do the math either. It's popular now the libs claim, that when it comes to numbers it doesn't matter, it's boring.
Except of course now, they have suddenly discovered that the minority republicans can block their majority legislation. For years the democrats and liberals screamed it was the republicans one party Bush rule, but now, this will be the newest and brightest news story.
They'ell have to ease it in somehow so the general pubes don't catch on, how they so effectively lied about the republicans ruling everything and all legislation for years on end, but I have faith they can pull it off. They're up to making their lie stick, no matter what. I'm sure they'ell cover up with some errant and side babbling about the new procedures adopted or some crap like that, and make sure they talk 54/45/1 and 50/49/1 to emphasize a distinction without a difference.
Yep, those damned republicans blocked minimum wage, and of course, since 1994 and the criminal Newt's republican ascendancy, not a single demorat ever thought of pulling such a stunt, in the era of one party rule, it was impossible, and judge blocking had never been done, and wasn't a filibuster anyway. But now of course, it's going to be common knowledge.
I'd just like to bash them all upside the skull and crack it wide open, and smile as the hideous stupidity is exposed to the oxygen at last.
sport -- thanks.Well, the
January 26, 2007 - 06:39 ET by Jack Bauersport -- thanks.
Well, these guys just pull figures out of their ass any time they feel like it, to support the dumb point they're struggling to make.
While the Joy of Sux and Rosie O'Donut are even dumber than their drooling, simpering audience, so no critical thinking there.
So next time, some lefty will be whining about how the rich need to be taxed at 99% to help the poor, the poor will have magically grown to a say 25%. It's all shite.
But are you as amused as me, at how O'Donut is now an 'intellectual' powerhouse for the "progressives."
This comment has nothing to d
January 26, 2007 - 06:02 ET by i was just thinkingThis comment has nothing to do with the debate over the show's content. It's just a simple observation. Having listened to the flap over too much conservative/not enough liberal material on AFN, I was surprised to turn on AFN here in Riyadh and be faced with "The View". So much for that argument.
So much to respond to. Firs
January 26, 2007 - 11:05 ET by rainlillieSo much to respond to. First of all Rosie is an
entertainer..her views are irrelevant. Most of the American people including
myself, have come to the conclusion that Bush has mismanaged this war on every
level. It seems that Bush is determined to do things his way, regardless of what
the Congress, the military experts, the Baker report or the American people say.
This has nothing to do with being a Liberal, a Democrat or a Republican...Those
are the facts. It's useless to attack everyone who comes out against this war
and Bush's handling of it. That's not going to stop the Civil war in Iraq or get
our troops out of harms way.
The first thing Bush needs to do to turn things
around in Iraq is to get rid of Maliki his allegiance is not with the
American soldiers who are losing their lives and limbs in Iraq, but it's with
Al Sadar. Maliki knows how powerful Al Sadar and his followers
are. He also has family in Iraq and he's not going to risk his well being along
with the well being of his family to help the Americans. He should have been
forced out as soon as he stopped our troops from setting up checkpoints. Sending
more American troops to be slaughtered is not going to bring stability to Iraq.
I agree with the experts who have said" Iraq needs a political solution, not a
military solution."
The biggest threat to the Bush Administration is an informed public.
Hey lillie, those are not fac
January 26, 2007 - 14:34 ET by Mike1Hey lillie, those are not facts you listed but rather biased and uninformed opinions. You have no clue and fail to illustrate not one example of how Bush has completely ignored congress or military experts with respect to Iraq. Furthermore, the American people are not qualified to make foreign or war policy when dealing with such complicated issues. Despite the common misperception (one of many by libs like you), America is a "republic" not a "democracy". You can't have the general public making policy. That is why we have elections, and oh BTW, Bush won twice.
Finally, if things were as simple as you stated with respect to Maliki, then the problem would have been solved long ago. Actually, the way I see it, an informed public is the biggest help to the Bush Administration on this issue. Like always, you libs have it backwards, because your brains are wired backward. Most of you need labotomies.
How many liberals does it take to screw in a light bulb? It doesn't matter for they'll never see the light anyway.