Hillary Blames Bad Image on 'Radio, Cable TV'; Swipes Edwards as 'On Sidelines' [Video]

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By Mark Finkelstein | January 23, 2007 - 09:07 ET

Gee, I wonder whom Hillary had in mind when she blamed her bad image on "radio and cable TV" this morning? She didn't quite name Rush, Hannity et al. as the "evildoers," but there was no mistaking the object of her disaffection.

The comment came in the course of a "Today" interview with Meredith Vieira. Meredith began with a slow-pitch softball, asking whether Hillary believes the public has stopped listening to President Bush. Hillary allowed that "there's a great discouragement about the president's leadership."

But Meredith maximized the MPH with her next question:

"Many voters still have this very negative opinion of you, and some of the words that are used to describe you are not very kind." As Vieira beginning ticking off the awful adjectives: "strident, cold, scripted, phony," Hillary burst into this political season's most insincere laughter.

Check out Hillary's meretricious mirth in this video clip.

Meredith took note of Clinton's feigned frivolity: "You're laughing at that. Advisors have said that they want to humanize you. Why do people seem to have that perception of you after knowing you for 15 years."
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Ouch. Being told that your handlers want to "humanize" you has got to hurt. And it was hard to mistake the implication of Vieira's mention of "15 years"? Hillary, at least in your case, familiarity really does breed contempt.

Hillary began by alluding to her two successful senate campaigns in New York, where she encountered the same kinds of "attitudes and stereotypes." For the record, I think Hillary gets way too much credit for winning there. In New York, registered Dems outnumber Republicans by 2 million, and Hillary ran first against a 'C'-list opponent and then against a virtual non-entity who didn't really bother to campaign.

Hillary then trotted out a line that she's begun using in recent days "I may be the most famous person you really don't know." Moving in for the kill, she encouraged people to "draw your own conclusion, don't draw it from what you hear somebody say on, you know, radio or cable TV."

I wonder if it occurred to Hillary that in pointedly singling out radio and cable TV, she was effectively making our NewsBusters case that broadcast TV is a Dem-friendly neighborhood?

Next, when it comes to Hillary taking out after her opponents, the Era of Good Feeling is officially over. That didn't last long!

Vieira: "[Edwards] has sort of positioned himself as the anti-war candidate. I'm envisioning the debate between the two of you when he turns to you and says 'I have repudiated my vote to go to war in Iraq, I have said it's a mistake. Senator, why can't you say your vote was a mistake?'"

Hillary: "Well, Meredith, I've taken responsibility for my vote. But I also as a member [with heavy emphasis on that word] of the United States Senate have a obligation to try to figure out what we're going to do now. I'm not on the sidelines, I'm in the arena."

Hillay didn't quite make the 'L' hand sign, but the message was unmistakable: "Johnny, why don't you go back to New Orleans, pound some more nails, and leave the driving to me?"

Aside: Since Hillary has flatly identified radio and cable TV as the enemy, how high might enactment of the "Fairness Doctrine," AKA the Hush Rush bill, be in a Clinton administration?

Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

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Of course cable tv has shown

Of course cable tv has shown Cruella Clinton as being strident, cold, scripted, and phony. Anywhere she goes, she comes off as strident, cold, scripted, and phony - because she is strident, cold, scripted, and phony. Even when the broadcast networks try to do the interview equivalent of boudoir photography with her, she comes off as strident, cold, scripted, and phony because it's a cold, calculating, and phony scripted event...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Crinton, The Chinese Mastermind!

The Conservatives I know can't even stand to see her evil, ugly visage on TV for even a second.  They change channels as fast as possible.  They also can't stand to hear her screeching shrill staccato on the radio!  Change that dial!<p>

After seeing this beast's photos on the web lately - blood and lymph still leaking from my eyes! - I was wondering if some Freeper could Photoshop what this hag would like after 8 years of destroying America from the "Oral" Office!  FR has some great PS guys who could "age" her year by year so that we could all see what this socialist traitor would like in 2016 - That's assuming our country was still in existence after she *ucked it up!

BBall - I'd ask you to plea

BBall - I'd ask you to please tone it down a tad.

I apologize Mark. I didn't me

I apologize Mark. I didn't mean to inspire that much - er - enthusiasm.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Agree

Sorry about that.  You are right.  I guess the daily onslaught of liberal media bilge has finally caught up with me.  How many mentions of "Zoo", John Warner attacking the President, sychophant interviews of Hillary, Drive-By Media distortions of the economy, and a huge USA Today multi-page story on two Philadelphia gays paying a woman to birth "their" baby, can a guy take??

But I will tone it down from now on.  Thanks.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Tone it down a tad?  What's

Tone it down a tad?  What's going on around here?  Twice in two days people have been advised to "tone it down", we can't have a heated discussion?  You don't think Hitlery is worthy of the level of vitriol aimed at her?  I think BBall was being nice.

Hillary is a meglomaniacal, power-hungry tyrant who might be responsible for driving one of her close associates to suicide (or murder?), and might be complicit in the mysterious deaths of scores of people who have been connected to the Clinton machine over the decades.  She railroaded Billy Dale out of a job, she helped bilk dozens in a phony land deal (Whitewater anyone?), she destroyed evidence, perjured herself etc. and she squashes anyone who gets in her way.  She should be disqualified to run as president because she already served 8 years...Billy was not running that show...

In short, there is no way to say enough bad things about Hillary Rodham.  I can say one good thing about her though: She's not Satan.

I'm all for a robust discus

I'm all for a robust discussion of the issues and the candidates. But I am requesting people to refrain from making comments that amount to unsubstantiated allegations of homicide.  Those are my rules for my threads.  If you find that unacceptably restraining, there are any number of places on the web where that kind of comment is not merely permitted but welcomed.

&quot;...comments that amount

"...comments that amount to unsubstatiated allegations of homicide."?  Are you refering to my post or BBall's?

Assuming that you're referring to mine, I'll say this:  An allegation, is by nature, unsubstantiated,  that's why it's an allegation.  Putting the word "murder" with a question mark after it in parentheses, is NOT making an allegation or an accusation, it's asking a question.

Everyone knows Vince Foster's death was a mystery and that there was a cover-up...Hillary's connection with him regarding Whitewater is enough to get a warrant for questioning. 

Good grief!  Do you think for one tiny second that if there was the slightest hint of any of this kind of stuff involving Bush that the MSM wouldn't have already labeled his administration "The Family" or something?

C'mon Mark, this woman deserves everything and anything her detractors can throw at her - including questions about inconsistencies in the Vince Foster investigation, or the many unsolved mysterys surrounding the Clintons, 

&quot;Do you think for one

"Do you think for one tiny second that if there was the slightest hint of any of this kind of stuff involving Bush that the MSM wouldn't have already labeled his administration 'The Family' or something?"

If we don't abide by higher standards than the MSM, what is the point of NB? Look, I cannot issue detailed regulations on what is and is not acceptable here. I'm asking people to use their good sense and discretion.

OK.  Granted.  But the fact

OK.  Granted.  But the fact is there isn't the slightest of hint of this kind of stuff with Bush, but there most definitely is with Hillary - which is why I defended the tone of BBall's post.

It's the media's job to hold politicians of all stripes to the same standards.  They don't, so things like Talk Radio, FNC and NB have come along to correct the record.  By virture of this, we (if I may I include myself) are already above the MSM standards. 

Just once I would love to see

Just once I would love to see The Hildebeast sit down to an interview with someone like a Chris Wallace, where the questions are not pre-arranged and there are no Nerf balls anywhere in the room.

Don't worry, I ain't gonna hold my breath.

I half expect to see MSM inte

I half expect to see MSM interviews with Madame Clinton taped with a gauzy filter on the camera, flowers filling the set, and soft music playing in the background. And it still wouldn't help...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Yes, the &quot;Elizabeth Tayl

Yes, the "Elizabeth Taylor" arrangement...

Look closely friends, at Hillary Clinton.  You are seeing one future for this country..she must be stopped.

She is the incubus, the anti-Christ and the plague, all rolled up into one maniacal package....she's America's homegrown native terrorist...to all we hold dear.  But hey, that's just my opinion.....

Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!

The lengths to which the MSM

The lengths to which the MSM goes to make Hillary look her best is almost comical - almost.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

MSM reporter: Hillary, what p

MSM reporter: Hillary, what plans do you have for America once you become president?

Hillary: I plan to add more liberals to the supreme court, and get them to find in the constitution the right for me to sell the United States to the highest bidder.

MSM reporter: Would that guarantee health care for everyone regardless of income?

Hillary: I'd also get the court to find in the constitution that Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc., must be silenced for the public good. And while they're at it, they can find that I have the right to nationalize anyting I want - whenever I want, just like Chavez.

MSM reporter: You certainly are a woman of vision. How refreshing!

Hillary: Now show me the editing room, I have some speeches I want to insert into this interview.

MSM reporter: Right this way, Hill.

Gee, I wish my legs were as strong as Hillary's! - Old piano proverb

Slick Hillie not dedicating h

Slick Hillie not dedicating her full attention to New York constituents long enough even to get through Hogwarts as well as her suspect carpet bagger flee the south past should have given her even some self awareness of such, as natural reaction.

Enough on Hillary -world traveler/crusader for women rights for those currently without,  without posture at home to even support - for today.  Today is good day to look into history of John Peter Zenger and Benjamin Franklin, not Woodward or Berstein, yet maybe also Plato.  Plato because Hillary has me seeing shapes and identical brightness thought to be term limited from a cavernous perspective.  How can she prove she is not just still wispering in chubby hubby's ear "Mr. President" and expects to though more "thick as theves" if elected and doing so just still as loyal spouse with natural psychology we all should be hesitant to trust can be changed in their relationship.  See did get access to all the salary of her full eight years in the "Office of President" didnt' she?  Bill and Hillary may deserve and Oscar if they can make the press believe but still not the White House again.  Queen bee still the queen bee and probably happy when ever her "Mr. President" interupts her with an answer or political solution faster than she came up with in such circumstances.   Time for new legislation to define for our times the 22 Amendment so that a vote against Hillary isn't confused with a vote against all women candidates.

Actually, Hillary, you are just a carpetbagging Senator of NY.

Actually, Hillary, you are just a carpetbagging Senator of NY.

"..I'm not on the sidelines, I'm in the arena."

I'd like to see a poll (never happen) asking the American people who don't live in NY State what they think about New York electing Hillary to the Senate, period.

"When Hillary Clinton ran for the Senate in New York State, but was from Arkansas, and was elected; did your respect for New York and its citizens ...

1.  Increase a lot?

2.  Increase a little?

3.  Stay the Same?

4.  Decrease a little?

5.  Decrease a lot?

6.  Go live in the Subway in Manhatten with Godzilla's eggs?

ACA

...

Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

ac,If ever there was a case o

ac,

If ever there was a case of "shopping for a seat", that had to be it.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Hillary Impression

Hillary is doing an impression of the SNL comedienne doing an impression of her.

Will someone ever ask this wo

Will someone ever ask this woman a question with some teeth; something she has to answer and can’t dance around?

“So then, Madam Senator, do you honestly think the publics perception of President Bush has not been adversely influenced by the mainstream media? Does it concern you that, if you were elected President, you might have to endure the same kind of treatment President Bush has? (long shot I know!)Could you deal with it and continue to lead? Or would you blow a gasket and melt down? Or are you going to blow a gasket and melt down right here and now?” 

Funny how she’s come this far and doesn’t understand that the pot and the kettle are pretty much the same shade of black. Not smart enough for Prez IMO.

Hillary then trotted out a li

Hillary then trotted out a line that she's begun using in recent days "I may be the most famous person you really don't know." Moving in for the kill, she encouraged people to "draw your own conclusion, don't draw it from what you hear somebody say on, you know, radio or cable TV."

Two points I'd like to make about this -

1) If you have been in the public spot light for 15 years and we still don't know the "real" you, you have only yourself to blame.  You were effectively a "co-President" and now have been a Senator for 2 terms so you certainly weren't hiding in the shadows. 

2)  Since I don't know you personally (thank God), I have only other mediums such as cable TV, radio and the like to get to know you.  So the fact I am drawing my conclusions about you from these sources is logical.  It just sounds to me like Hillary is afraid people will see who she really is because that's what she's been showing us for these past 15 years and it's finally going to bite her in the backside.

Dutch

today in Washington, DC

There's a March For Life telecast from DC (sorry) on right now. I've been watching as presidential candidate Sam Brownback spoke to the march, as well as Tim Ryun. I'm very impressed as they speak up defending unborn American babies.

Truly these words of Hillary apply perfectly to Sam Brownback:

He may well turn out "the most famous person you really don't know."

--Moving in for the kill, she (Clinton) encouraged people to "draw your own conclusion, don't draw it from what you hear somebody say-- Hillary moves in for the KILL; abortion on demand. Brownback moving in for LIFE, now we should observe closely; to draw a conclusion. Who is to lead our nation after the coming election? Life-- or Death?

Tumbler, You got that righ

Tumbler,

You got that right. Sam Brownback is a name that hardly anyone on the street would know. The media fawns over Hillary so much that it should be easy for us to know who she is, despite her claims to the contrary. The same media will avoid covering people outside their ideological bent, or will consistently mis-represent them.

It will be interesting to see how the media will portray the March for Life.

Dutch

Tumbler, You got that righ

Tumbler,

You got that right. Sam Brownback is a name that hardly anyone on the street would know. The media fawns over Hillary so much that it should be easy for us to know who she is, despite her claims to the contrary. The same media will avoid covering people outside their ideological bent, or will consistently mis-represent them.

It will be interesting to see how the media will portray the March for Life.

Dutch

Her image is well-earned, and

Her image is well-earned, and not owed purely to cable news.

Her real test will be on the campaign trail across the country, where her handlers won't be able to control her environment, and her opponents will attempt to goad her into exploding in public.

But don't expect to hear her complain about the treatment.  She'll leave that up to her dirt-bag husband to handle.

Dick Morris was on H&C last n

Dick Morris was on H&C last night and alluded to a serious rift that occurred with the Clintons and him. Does anyone know the story behind his profound dislike for them?

dick morris vs. bubba

Someplace I read a few years ago, how Bubba attacked Dick Morris physically; attempted to beat him as they rolled on the floor in our WHITE HOUSE-- A physical confrontation.

Yeah, that was always happe

Yeah, that was always happening. Bubba rolling on the Oval Office floor with an aide.

Hillary was about to drag them apart when she realized this time it was a guy he had pinned down, so she let them get it on.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

That's very interesting!! I

That's very interesting!! I wonder what Dick said about Monica to get Bill so riled?

For obvious reasons, Dick Morris tries to be neutral, except when the discussion is about the Clintons. A physical altercation with Bill (trying to imagine the draft-dodger in a fight!) would be both funny and another good reason to not like the Clintons.

Another quick question-how did Dick Morris escape the assassination atttempt? Not many people have crossed the Clintons and lived to tell about it.

That's very interesting!! I

That's very interesting!! I wonder what Dick said about Monica to get Bill so riled?

For obvious reasons, Dick Morris tries to be neutral, except when the discussion is about the Clintons. A physical altercation with Bill (trying to imagine the draft-dodger in a fight!) would be both funny and another good reason to not like the Clintons.

Another quick question-how did Dick Morris escape the assassination atttempt? Not many people have crossed the Clintons and lived to tell about it.

I repeat: as this campaign be

Message from Mark to all readers: as this campaign begins, I am requesting all readers to refrain from making highly-inflammatory accusations unless they can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt. I do not wish these threads to become blighted by this kind of thing. Let's stick to substance.

In this case Clinton attacking Morris is true.

In this case Clinton attacking Morris is true. Dick Morris gave a short sequence of the event on FoxNews, and I have the audio where it is described by one of Dick's friends who was there before it happened. Dick Morris fled the area, and called his friend, who also does an interview relating what Dick said to him after the attack. His friend left the place disgusted by Clinton's behavior, before Dick was attacked by Bill.

 This one isn't a rumor.

 His friend told him to never go back, since Dick had an appt. the following day with slick wille.

If I remember right, Dick Mor

If I remember right, Dick Morris was at one time the Karl Rove of the Clintons. Then he got caught up in some really minor sexual stink with hookers.  Apparently while he was with the hookers he was calling Clinton and letting the gals listen in on the conversation.  The outcome was that an embarrassed and humiliated Morris resigned his position as Presidential advisor, but based on the fact that Morris immediately became a huge denouncer of Bill Clinton after he resigned I'm thinking that Bill and Hillary gave him the boot... which getting the boot for hanging with hookers from a guy like Bill Clinton would set me off too.

&quot;draw your own conclusio

"draw your own conclusion, don't draw it from what you hear somebody say on, you know, radio or cable TV."

Hmm... can we draw our own conclusion from the pile of dead bodies behind you?  Would that be alright?

We are at the beginning of a

We are at the beginning of a long campaign. I would ask people to refrain from making this kind of highly inflammatory accusation on my threads unless they can back it up with very specific evidence.

OK, that's only fair.I did no

OK, that's only fair.

I did not mean to be too clever by half, but the sheer number of people who have met untimely ends within the Clinton orbit is staggering.  Who do you know, aside from various totalitarian rulers in the 20th century who have had so many inconvenient people be so conveniently removed from their lives?  

Before the industrial revolution it was pretty common for a regime to have a blood bath as soon as it came into power to deal with potential threats.  Even the folks we consider the "good guys" of history (Elizabeth I comes to mind) were soaked in it.  That was then, but we are supposed to be living in an enlightened republic.

Now, by specific evidence, I take it you mean bio samples, police reports, etc?  Naturally I don't have that.  Do I really need to obtain something like that in order to bring up something that has blown around the ether since '92?

When you do a search on ask.com, the results are nearly overwhelming - the site I looked at had 55 names - I chose not to do a gratuitous cut and paste, because that would have been a bit too long, way too smug, and you're obviously pretty annoyed with me right now.  Cut through all the kooks out there, shave the list down to the bare bone, and you still have plenty of disturbing coincidences.

Interesting Note, Clinton's LT Governor, Jim Guy Tucker and Susan McDougal preferred to do time then talk.

OK, probably not the evidence you're looking for, but perhaps you'll give me a pass for a reasoned thought process.  Pax Romana?

Absolutely, and you are a val

Absolutely, and you are a valued reader. Not singling you out by any means; simply asking all readers to refrain from this kind of thing.

Mark, I just re-read the enti

Mark, I just re-read the entire thread, and I see you have your hands full this afternoon (late evening over here) with us kids.  Sorry to have added to it. 

Oops - yet another repeat.

Oops - yet another repeat.

Non biased look at the body count

Here is a pretty non biased look at the body count in my opinion.

I am definatly not a Hillary fan, and am leaning towards Prudhoe Bay(no Mark I don't have any scientific evidence and it's just a joke, but I just couldn't make a Hillary post without throwing that in) as being the first place she will want to build a Gulag for her political prisoners, but it appears that most of the deaths are speculation and haven't been proven, and some of these people don't really seem to be that connected to Bill or Hillary.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm

"I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane"  Waylon Jennings

Hey, I guessed right!! Ment

Hey, I guessed right!! Mentions of Mena, Arkansas on the page (AKA bipartisan and therefore media-ignored coke-smuggling-scandalville!) = 10.
JMR

You know, in the final analys

You know, in the final analysis, it really is all Ross Perot's fault. ;-)

OK, I got so caught up in exp

OK, I got so caught up in explaining my rhetoric, that I lost sight of what I was oringinally alluding to:

The fact is that there is so much baggage in the Clinton camp, and she in particular is so handled.  Given that, her riduculous condescention that somehow we don't "know her" is insulting on its face.
Consider, all information - all the books, all the face time this person has had. Yet now, after 15 years in the an intense public spot light of which I can not recalling having let up for a second, she's finally going let us get to know her? Please.

&quot;There's a great discour

"There's a great discouragement about the president's leadership."

Oh, spare us your crocodile tears, Senator. From Day One, you and your ilk have done every rotten thing you could do and said every rotten thing you could say,  to marginalize and lessen him.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

I'm attempting to go Zen on t

I'm attempting to go Zen on that one.  It used to infuriate me, but when you think about how insidious they are, you realize its time to stop debating them, and simply work for their defeat.

Dane,I can accept the warfare

Dane,

I can accept the warfare coming from the other side. It's just when they offer up phony appraisals about the results of their own actions, that's when I get riled up. It's like a guy deliberately driving his Mack truck through the side of your house and then having the gall to say you had a weak wall...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

&quot;It's like a guy deliber

"It's like a guy deliberately driving his Mack truck through the side of your house and then having the gall to say you had a weak wall..."

I am stealing this from you and using it at Easter Dinner... and there's nothing you can do about it. 

Dane,You mean the line and no

Dane,

You mean the line and not literally the action, yes? If so, please feel free...:)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris, it took me a minute fo

Chris, it took me a minute for it to sink in, but then I was practically ROTF.  No, shan't be doing be doing that. 

BTW, I have loved your tag line forever.  Once in a while it becomes appropriate to do a dry delivery of it during a discussion, and about half the time I am asked to explain it after having been met with a blank stare.  Ah, life's little pleasures.

Doubla - fix the server.

Doubla - fix the server.

All of you are wrong on this one.

I am going to go out on a limb here and disagree with most of what was posted with regard to Hillary getting MSM support in her bid for the White House.

What the MSM REALLY wants is a Democrat in the White House.  Everyone seems to be assuming that it will ultimately mean Hillary.  In my opinion, while she may fare just fine in a primary, when it comes to a national election, the woman is unelectable.  Her polarizing personality, for all the reasons described above, combined with the notion of Bill Clinton returning to the White House will result in a conservative voter turnout that would be unheard of before in this country.  Even much of the middle will see her for what she is (ultra liberal) and abandon her.

If the MSM hasn’t realized this yet, they almost certainly will.  The last thing they want to do is lose the White House again.  Therefore, I predict the MSM, and in some respects her own party, will abandon her.

The only question, who then takes her place?  Obama?  Also unelectable (although less so than Hillary) in my opinion.

Should be interesting.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speach and treason"

Jimbo,I'm sure that's true. H

Jimbo,

I'm sure that's true. However, the MSM can help both her and any of her rivals. It's not a Hillary and nobody else situation (that comes in the general election). We all have previously commented on the media-created strength of Barak Obama. The topic here was Hillary and the media.  If another rival emerges, I'm sure the media will give them the adulation they think he or she deserves. Yet, I believe many of the women of the MSM support Hillary, because they want a woman as President, come hell or high water, and feel she has the best chance.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Lock Step

Fair points, but I as I stated, I am convinced the woman is unelectable.  While some woman in the MSM may support her because of the female thing, I think the MSM “machine” will opt to back what they consider to be a winner, whomever that may be, and bring their female reporters in lock step.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speach and treason"

Oh, absolutely the MSM will f

Oh absolutely, the MSM will fall in behind whoever the Democrat standardbearer may be - the thought of them supporting a Republican over a Democrat is bitterly laughable. Although, I wish I had your confidence that this particular woman is unelectable. I can imagine circumstances where she is elected - just like Perot's third -party candidacy allowed her husband to slip in sideways, for instance...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Anything Can Happen

In order for any woman to break that stereotype and get elected President, she would have to be one hell of a candidate.  Hillary has a national disapproval rating almost as high as her approval rating.  Those who disapprove of her have this visceral hatred for her, which translates into a lot of votes and a lot of campaign energy and money to whomever opposes her.  Besides, McCain will be her opponent (in my opinion), who is half a liberal anyway, which presents a nice alternative for those in the middle.

Hey – ANYTHING can happen.  This is how I see it playing out.  I’ll really go out on a limb and bet she doesn’t even get the Democratic nomination.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speach and treason"

OK, you're on. I say she gets

OK, you're on. I say she gets the nomination and I have a particular fondness for Morton's  - The Steakhouse... :)

Of course, if she gets elected, steakhouses will be banned as symbols of male dominance...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

There are several interesting

There are several interesting things to note about Hillary's announcement.

The timing and way she announced seems to be as a reaction to Obama. Why announce in the same week as Obama did and on a Saturday? I think Dick Morris on H&C was right...Hillary was caught flatfooted. If she wanted to make more of a statement, she should have waited for a couple of weeks to let the msm fawning over Obama fade. After all, it's still January-22 months until the election. Waiting a couple of weeks- or even months- wouldn't have hurt Hillary.

As previously noted, it will be interesting to see Hillary in a real campaign.

Claws Out

Agreed.  I guess you can interpret her timing either way with regard to her ultimate viability as a candidate.

If she truly had confidence that she would be able to dispose of Obama and secure the party nomination without a problem, then she would have announced on her run on own schedule, and let Obama have his fun in the media.  I interpret her timing to be a concern on the part and her handlers that this is far from a lock, and that letting Obama get too far ahead could be a fatal error.

I also think this is indicative that the DNC support for her behind the scenes is far weaker than she expected or is demanding for the reasons I indicated above.  If she winds up having to run an aggressive campaign to secure the Party nod, I think that plays right into the Republican hands.  The claws will come out, so she will be seen in all the negative light we have been writing about, and she will need to appease the far left more so than ever, exposing her for the far left liberal she really is.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speach and treason"

hillary has only hillary to b

hillary has only hillary to blame for her bad image.  it is also a let down for me to see her cry about this.  i thought she was tough.  i think she feels sorry for herself.  those self pity feelings are the same ones that doomed her hero, richard nixon. 

you know history repeats itself.  she will be the democrat richard nixon.  they both were totally lacking in honesty.  they were complete political animals.  they like to cry and feel sorry for themselves.  they both think the world is out to get them.  they both have major chips on their shoulders.  they both believe the law does not apply to them.  they both believe they are "justified" in whatever they do because they are persecuted.  they are both consumed by hate.  they are both basically nasty nasty human beings.  they both were/will be elected during an unpopular war.    they both are consumed by their historical image.

will hillary follow nixon's path?  will republicans be able to obtain the justice they deserved and be successful in impeaching hillary? 

my wild prediction.  she will follow nixon's path and be impeached during her second term in office and during the worst depression this country has had since the 30's.

If you are correct, there wil

If you are correct, there will be one point where she and Nixon will diverge: until the year of his death, Richard Nixon took calls from sitting presidents (every single one through Bill Clinton) seeking his counsel.  Sadly, Hillary's phone will grow cobwebs over the fullness of time.   

Hillary is never ever going t

Hillary is never ever going to be elected.

Period.

I have spoken.

'nuff said.

BT - I hope you are right,

BT - I hope you are right, but if the GOP runs McCain . . .

Thanks, BT.I know you are an

Thanks, BT.

I know you are an astute student of American politics. 

If you're feeling that...I feel a lot better.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary for dog catcher (well...maybe...if it paid minimum wage and she had to clean the kennels).

I hope she crashes and burns in the most spectacular fashion.  Personally, I don't think she'll be able to help it.  She is such a self-absorbed, power hungry, know-it-all that she'll implode from the sheer weight of her own genius.   Kind of like the SNL skit the other night.

Hoping, anyway.

Keep cheering for the right side, BT.

Hillary: After 15 years, we know you

Hey Hillary, with 15 years of the kind of media exposure you've received, much of it fawning, it's impossible to maintain the facade before the American public.  And you aren't a good enough actor to pull it off.  Your hubby is much better at putting forth an image, yet millions see through him as well.  You're not fooling anyone except those willing to see you through rose colored glasses.

Um, NK....Wouldn't that prope

Um, NK....

Wouldn't that properly be "Rose Law Firm" colored glasses?

Hillary is so transparent.

Her laugh.....I don't have the words.

I am Clinton-fatigued all over again.

And she only "announced" on Saturday.

Clinton fatigue

Things could be worse.  You could live in Iowa, as I do.  Over the next year it will seem as though I've died and gone to Hill.  (Too much of a reach?  Probably so.)

I agree about Clinton fatigue.  They're both about as phony as $3 bills.  I wish I could look about 50 years into the future and see what history will say about these two.  I predict Bill will be the answer to a trivia question.  (Name the only president impeached in the 20th century.)  There's not much substance to remember.

Oh, NK, that's awful.I didn't

Oh, NK, that's awful.

I didn't even think about Iowa...and the caucuses...and all of the blather.  You poor man. 

Wasn't Iowa the site of the big Dean meltdown?  Maybe we'll have a repeat...

Hoping.

Hang in there, friend.  You know all of us here will be feeling your pain as we march through the political process.

You are correct, ma'am

Your memory about Dean is accurate.

I may have to get ambitious and launch my own blog during the next few months.  Besides the Iowa caucuses, I will be able to watch the Harkin reelection campaign.  And because I live 11 miles from the Minnesota border in a TV market which straddles the state line, I will also get to observe Al Franken if he runs for Senate.  There should be plenty to write about.

Anyone know where to get a good (legal) deal on Prozac?

NK...Since you're somewhat cl

NK...

Since you're somewhat close to the Cities....it's only a short run to the border for those nice cheap Canadian drugs.  Prozac city.

I think you should start a blog.

The politics in MN must be somewhat akin to that of San Fran.  And of course, Iowa....the one thing I don't understand though....I used to visit relatives (well, the ex's grandparents) in Iowa.  Such a bunch of conservative, lovely people.  Where are all the ultra-libs in Iowa.  I've never met one.  But they must be there in droves.  Could you explain this dichotomy to me?

Perhaps NB could start a regional section.

Florida politics are a tad bizarre (as we all know).

Iowa's libs

As I recall, your ex-relatives are in Western Iowa, which is considered the most conservative part of the state.  Our most conservative congressman, Steve King, is in the westernmost district.  The libs tend to be concentrated around our larger cities, such as the capital, Des Moines, university towns like Iowa City (the U of I) and Ames (Iowa State), and industrial areas like the Quad Cities.  Most of our big cities are in the central and east, so generally speaking west is conservative and east is liberal.  Our biggest RINO, Jim Leach, represented SE Iowa until he was defeated last time around.  I'm in a rural area (near Mason City), but we tend to trend more blue than red around here.

Politics can be a little schizoid here.  We have a somewhat conservative senator in Chuck Grassley and a hard-core lib in Tom Harkin.  The previous legislature was split quite evenly, 25-25 in the senate and 51-49 for the GOP in the House.

We don't have a lot of ethnic diversity, but we do have more than our share of flaky types.  For example, Maharishi University, world headquartes for TM, is in Fairfield.  The TM'ers have gone on to establish their own city, Vedic City.  That's not the kind of thing most people would associate with Iowa.

I'm less familiar with Minnesota, but I do know the state is most liberal in the Twin Cities and less so in the rural areas.  I doubt Ellison would have been elected anywhere else in Minnesota than in the urban district he serves.  I've never figured out how they elected Jesse Ventura a few years ago.  I have a theory that a lot of people voted for him as a joke or maybe a protest vote, never believing he'd really become governor.