If opposing abortion makes you a "social conservative," what does supporting abortion make you? Why, nothing at all, or certainly nothing worth mentioning in NBC's eyes.
NBC's Kelly O'Donnell narrated a segment on this morning's "Today" about the three candidates who threw their hats into the presidential ring over the weekend: Hillary, Bill Richardson and Sam Brownback.
O'Donnell described Hillary simply as "Senator Hillary Clinton." Nothing about her views on abortion.
O'Donnell identified Bill Richardson as the first potential Hispanic president, "adding to the Democratic field of potential firsts if elected: Clinton, the first woman and Barack Obama, the first African-American." How nice.
Nothing about Richardson's views on abortion either.
But when it came to the Republican newly in the race, virtually the first words out of O'Donnell's mouth were: "Two-term Kansas senator Sam Brownback is a social conservative who opposes legalized abortion."
View video here.
Could you ever imagine O'Donnell, or any MSMer, opening a description of a Dem candidate by calling him "a social liberal who supports abortion"?
Neither can I. For the MSM, pro-choice is the normal position. After all, virtually everyone in the news room is. Being pro-life is seen as a extreme position that makes a candidate subject to pigeon-holing as a "social conservative."
PS: Note that O'Donnell described Brownback as being opposed to "legalized" abortion. Wait a second: surely he opposes illegal abortion, too. Am I reading too much into this, or was O'Donnell's insertion of "legalized" some subliminal editorializing, her way of saying "if abortion is prohibited it won't end the practice, it will just drive women into the back alleys"?
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Mon, 01/22/2007 - 08:55 ET by rimskyAmerican Conservative Union ratings:
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I.E., Clinton - Very Liberal, Obama Very Liberal
As always, for the MSM, the
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 08:57 ET by motherbeltAs always, for the MSM, there is no left wing, no liberal position, just the default position of "normal" people, and those right-wing extremists.
As a pro-choice Republican...I...
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 09:02 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasAs a pro-choice Republican, (I don't care for the term "pro-choice" and believe it is misinterpreted too often to mean too many things but for the sake of brevity I use it) I find the imbalance by the MsM and people like "KOD" in reporting on the issue or when the issue is brought up in relationship to a politician's position, quite obvious and a sham. Yes, I wish the topic was debated and discovery sought in a less emotional and hysterical context but these super-lib MsMers don't do anything to add to mature and reasonable dialogue by attempting to demonize those that oppose legalized abortions and exempting those that believe it is a medical matter from reference.
If a person is against legislation making abortions illegal (yes there are varying degrees of debate here as to the trimester but that isn't the intent of this post or argument, at least not right now) then it needs to be pointed out and if a person supports abortion legislation of some sort which would reduce what is federally accepted right now, it needs to be pointed out. But "KOD" only confirms suspicions of bias in the MsM with this kind of reporting, not to mention implies there is the necessity of secrecy or minimization of one's "pro-choice" position, hence indicating shame and if their is shame then shame on them for being a hypocrite. Of course the truth is the MsM is all about shame, and that is attempting to shame any and every Republican while rarely giving equal treatment to libs and super-libs.
(For the record I am also a born-again believer, a Christian, saved,...well you get the point and gladly take on theological arguments concerning abortion with anyone, but not in this thread since that is not what it is about).
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
I admire your position, par
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 09:05 ET by Mark FinkelsteinI admire your position, particularly considering that you are, to use the same handy label, pro-choice.
I also agree that "pro-c
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 15:38 ET by TruthMongerI also agree that "pro-choice is an absolute BS term - babies get ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE in the abortion matter...
The Pro-Aborts won't even agr
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:42 ET by mattmThe Pro-Aborts won't even agree to a "partial-birth abortion" ban. They're afraid of the slippery-slope that could one day lead to a Pre-1973 situation. This is why they use the media to propagandize against anyone whom they see as a threat.
It only stands to reason that this issue could be removed from the political stage if Roe v. Wade was overturned and the issue went back to the states and was sorted out in the "laboratories of democracy" as the Founders intended, but this won't happen as long as the MSM controls the debate.
Well you're 0 for 2 Guy.You a
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:53 ET by ncstevemWell you're 0 for 2 Guy.
You adhere to a man-made religion (protestantism) and therefore see nothing wrong with abortion.
This, my protestant friends, this is a perfect example of the fatal flaw of following protestantism. Protestantism is nothing more than theological relativism--whatever the individual believes is 'true'.
Sola Fide (saved by faith alone), Sola Scriptura (the Bible being the sole authority on matters of faith) and the priesthood of all believers to read and interpret scripture for themselves (theological relativism) are all bogus tenets first put forth by the nut-job Martin Luther. These are the three 'legs' on which the stool of protestantism sits.
Of course theological relativism leads to moral relativism (the Enlightenment)--there are numerous protestant sects that take the position that abortion is morally OK. So if one doesn't like the brand of protestantism one is getting from their 'minister', they just need to shop around and find one who better suits their 'needs'.
Apparently you have been sent by the Pope...
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:13 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasApparently the Pope sent you...or are you left over from the Crusades? Either way, I made it clear I gladly will argue the issue of abortion in a theological context but not here since this is not what the article or posts are about. So whatever "chrsitianity" you are claiming, the hope is it will have enough relevance to render you respectful enough to observe the intent of the article and the liberty to respond given by the editors, but I won't hold my breath in anticipation that your "christianity" would be relevant in such matters, just when moral or religious crusading comes calling. And for the record, it is your arrogance that leads a person to misrepresent the sentiments or thoughts of another and your saying that I see "nothing wrong with abortion" is typical of extremists who don't engage in honest dialogue but have an agenda and disregard principles of fairness and honesty when debating. I never said any such thing and never even intimated my feelings regarding its rightness or wrongness, but again, apparently I am speaking to a Crusader and well, I won't expect you to recognize any such falsehoods of your own. Enough now...NEXT!
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
I'm arrogant but you're 'save
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:29 ET by ncstevemI'm arrogant but you're 'saved'. Talk about arrogant.
C'mon Guy, be a man. Men can take it when they're being called on their non-sensical comments. Girly men can't.
Stop being a Troll, wait perh
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:32 ET by Dan The Man 2Stop being a Troll, wait perhaps you were born one. Stop it, or do it in PM's.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
...don't get us started on th
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 15:46 ET by TruthMonger...don't get us started on the so-called Roman Catholic derivation from our belovedly original holy catholic church which Martin Luther nicely re-established - at great personal inconvenience and cost I might add...
I know plenty of Roman Cathol
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:35 ET by mattmI know plenty of Roman Catholics who are "Pro-Choice", ultra liberals who have been voting Democrat for decades, so you can't lay this off as a "protestant" thing. Good grief!
Can't be Catholic and pro-cho
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:42 ET by ncstevemCan't be Catholic and pro-choice.
They cease being Catholic once they take the 'pro-choice' position.
Well, I guess I'll have to in
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:55 ET by mattmWell, I guess I'll have to inform them (mostly relatives- one priest) that they have excommunicated themselves.
you're 100% correct!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 14:37 ET by tumbler_2007mattm:
Great! You nailed it --
"inform them (mostly relatives- one priest) that they have excommunicated themselves." --You are correct, they certainly have. They have abandoned the true Faith. (And that has nothing to do with Crusaders.)
guy & art & tom
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 14:45 ET by tumbler_2007Furthermore:
You cannot in ANY way be saved and believe abortion isn't a sin. We don't have to dispute your faith on that point, you just aren't saved if you make killing an innocent compatible with faith. They are two incompatibles, both for me the Catholic and you, the Bible Christian.
I would respectfully reques
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:30 ET by Mark FinkelsteinI would respectfully request that this thread not become the site of a dispute of this nature. Please correspond by private message if you'd like to continue this debate.
Mark -- you mean there can'
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:36 ET by Jack BauerMark -- you mean there can't be a debate here on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
Thank goodness!
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
How big is the pin?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 13:05 ET by mattmHow big is the pin?
matt -- I just said this is
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 13:13 ET by Jack Bauermatt -- I just said this is A NO PIN ZONE
But if you insist... about as big as one of Bill's pinheads.
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
I know. I'm just being a tr
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 13:17 ET by mattmI know. I'm just being a troublemaker...
Fair enough.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:43 ET by ncstevemFair enough.
Fair enough.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:43 ET by ncstevemFair enough.
Fair enough.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:43 ET by ncstevemFair enough.
Wow. A quintuple post!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 12:48 ET by Dave RNevermind.
..so much for American free s
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 15:48 ET by TruthMonger..so much for American free speech - I guess I'm moving to Russia now : ( ...
It will be a cold day in Hell
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 09:24 ET by NeoCon JediIt will be a cold day in Hell before we see any balance from the MSM on a Republican or any conservative candidate. It's like having morals and values is a bad thing.
"At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was!" -- Yoda
To them, having morals and va
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:44 ET by mattmTo them, having morals and values IS a bad thing. They are amoralists, therefore the only thing immoral to them is morality.
Good eye
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 09:39 ET by Sugar LandGood eye Mark. This is a TEXTBOOK example of liberal bias in "news" coverage. Think any journalism classes across these great fruited plains will be analyzing it today? Nah... me neither.
MSM
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 09:47 ET by iveseenitallTalk about "fairness" in campaigns. The MSM is a 527 for the Democrats.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Wating for the Day, Seen It
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 13:37 ET by PSPCplWhen someone at the FEC grows a pair and decides that McCain Finegold applies to the "news" outlets and clobbers them the way the do any organization/individual that tackles or supports any politician or political party in a way not according to McCain-Finegold.
I pray for a pestilence upon anyone who helped support and create this monster and allowed it to become law (and I mean everyone who let this gross attack on the First Amendment become law).
Hate to be contrary on this,
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:10 ET by Tony SHate to be contrary on this, but since abortion is the law of the land, then agreeing with it is the status quo -- aka "the norm." Therefore opposing it does warrant a disclaimer. I don't really see this designation as biased, since pro-choice people seek to maintain status quo -- and therefore don't warrant any designation on something that has long been law (a law that went into effect before many in the news industry were born).
I hate to be contrary to your being contrary on your point.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:18 ET by acaiguanaI hate to be contrary to your being contrary on your point.
Well, actually, since that sentence made no sense at all, I don't hate to be contrary at all.
The fundamental flaw in your logic (whether discussing 'abortion' or any other 'political view') is that abortion rights were never a 'law' debated by the Congress of the US, but rather 'conferred' upon the people by nine guys in black dresses.
So, regardless of your stand on abortion, the 'law' of the land was dictated by fiat which in my opinion doesn't hold up under the reasoning of the court itself.
But, that's just me.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
I don't see the fact that a
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:24 ET by Mark FinkelsteinI don't see the fact that abortion is generally legal as being particularly relevant. It remains a hot-button issue that divides many voters. A candidate's views on the issue are of interest, above all those of a potential president who would have a chance to appoint Supreme Court justices. If it's notable that Brownback is pro-life I'd say it's equally noteworthy that the Dems aren't.
"since abortion is the l
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:40 ET by Jerry"since abortion is the law of the land, then agreeing with it is the status quo -- aka "the norm." Therefore opposing it does warrant a disclaimer."
Why are people who want to enforce our immigration laws classified as "anti-immigration".
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
our usage of choice
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:51 ET by tumbler_2007Pro-choice is nevertheless a suitable enough pejorative, expressing exactly what "choice" means: abortion and nothing but abortion.
It fools no one. There is even more even more leverage in expanding the meaning(s) wider still; to express Leftist's "choices" for AIDS, for fatherless offspring and for taxation without representation.
Imagine then saying "We are in favor of a person's right to choose; choose to contract HIV and various other STD's-- that's a legitimate American choice." Or, "We are Pro-Choice; choosing to destroy matrimony altogether by raising a child without benefit of marriage or fidelity to any spouse; unless of course, that spouse is my significant other." Gays might then proudly call themselves Pro-Choice in their own right.
Democrat politics too. A Democrat politician is not that far out. He/she campaigns blatantly for the right to "choose" exhorbitant taxation of the middle class; and certainly enforced confiscation of other Americans' wealth with no obligations attached. That means a choice of soaking the "rich" without scruples or justification. A Democrat's choice then, is to socialize and destroy capitalism and limit private property.
Those are only a few of the choices every left-winger demands the right to. In the case of Democrat politics, this is a Really Big Tent. Every choice is protected for him/her by the Constitution. Surely if Democrats can capture the White House soon, their elected leaders will install more ultra-liberal Supreme Court Justices with power to interpret the Constitution so perfectly that choice will mean even more than it ever has. Is this all on Hillary's and Obammy's agenda? Hey, what a question!
Abortion, Death Penalty and
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:02 ET by Dee BunkAbortion, Death Penalty and Gay Marriage positions of conservatives are all considered extreme and far right. The Death Penalty has been legal so why is that status quo extreme? Gay Marriage has not been illegal so why is that status quo extreme? The status quo or norm to the media is the liberal position irrespective of the law.
Exactly, and the examples go
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:44 ET by HumanEventsExactly, and the examples go on and on. Like the "Fairness Doctrine" is not the law of the land but yet it's not extreme for Dennis Kucinich and other Dems to support it. Heck, it's not even extreme for Hillary to want to change our country to socialized medicine and making it a crime to pay for your own doctor or health insurance. So this is the MSM once again illustrating that to them liberals and ultra liberals are "normal", moderates are "conservatives", and conservatives are "right-wing extremists".
The word "liberal" isn't in the MSM vocabulary. Neither does their more preferred deceptive word "progressive" seem to be either; they refrain from saying, "Hillary, a social progressive..."
I'm more liberal and modera
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:52 ET by Dee BunkI'm more liberal and moderate than most liberals I know, yet the MSM would consider me a right wing nut. I disagree that they call moderates conservatives, but other than that, we are on the same wave. Great examples.
Well, the whole concept of 'extreme' and pro-choice is this.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 11:53 ET by acaiguanaWell, the whole concept of 'extreme' and pro-choice is this.
OK, you want pro-choice.
1. I choose to smoke in my car except in Austin, TX; Erie, PA, and a host of other cities, some even in California (that bastion of Liberalism).
2. I choose not to wear my seat belt.
3. I choose to have fat in my hamburgers.
4. I choose to use DDT.
Blah Blah Blah
And the biggest sin of all, I choose to not believe in the government as a tool to socially engineer out of my life all those petty little pleasures I take just to enjoy a few moments away from the insanity of the rest of the world.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Freewill
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 14:21 ET by UnsaneWho needs freewill when you have the government? :-)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
What is even worse than this
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:27 ET by ucWhat is even worse than this lack of journalistic objectivism - level playing field standards - or some attempt to match metaphors (apples to apples not oranges of subject heft change.) >> is the announcement that Senator Hillary R. (r-not) Clinton will have prime spot tomorrow morning. How would Steve Martin have done "All of Me" if one of whole was cast as term-limited? Sounds like attempt to mix oil and water. On moral issues and Hillary I wonder if women really will support for first female President someone who married a political climber and changed from her earlier republican fews, moved to his state and stood by (why?) through more supposed infidelities than usually raised, Did same through White House race though with light images of little rocks and hope from the natural state of Ark. Didn't do well with policy goals she publically took on herself. Moved, after as later described by her husband at Tiger Woods Learning Center Inaguration: His self spoken statement "that as a politician he was a failure." Moved to small town in Empire State that brings chaps to mind and started her basically delivered by Moynihan Senate seat. Poetry of Chapaqua did seem good read as place for a President to retire from rough riding. How is she marketable even to women raising women with Presidential ambitions?
ABC radio news
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 13:17 ET by Tony LockardSherry Preston, ABC radio news, used the same tactic last week. I think it was Tuesday, ABC radio led at the top of the hour with the Obama announcement and then Tancredo's annoucement. Obama was an "intruiging" democratic hopeful, while Tancredo is known for his "outspoken" views on illegal immigration and his opposition to abortion.
Kelly O'Donnell has been one
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 15:50 ET by bigtimerKelly O'Donnell has been one of the biggest leftist cheer leaders for msnbc and NBC there are on this planet... for a lesson in hypocrisy when it comes to so called fair and balanced in journalism or any kind of fair reporting in any way shape or form, just listen to her if you can take it.
If I were I teacher or professor she would be a prime example of what you do not do to get a passing grade for excellence in fairness when reporting a story without personal bias or trying to sway viewers to one side or the other whatever the issue.
She does a great job for the network and their agenda though...
Pathetic.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Bias
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:18 ET by iveseenitallPersonal bias is ecouraged in college classrooms--as long as it agrees with the personal, liberal views of the professor. I agree, it is pathetic -- unfair and insulting to students who think for themselves.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
ives...Have you ever heard Ru
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:21 ET by Clear thinkerives...
Have you ever heard Rush talk about this subject?
isia...I know...Past pathetic
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerisia...
I know...
Past pathetic is it not?
I would not put one cent into a college anymore, if my child wanted to go to college, either earn it through great grades and pay for it with working on the side and loans...no way would I pay one red cent for college, it is a leftist indoctrination and will stay that way, Pelosi and the house left out colleges when it came to earmarks in their ethics package they passed, by the way, colleges are the ones raising their outrageous rates, if kids stopped going the cost would go down...let alone fire a bunch or fake leftist so-called professors that are only working like one day a week or so....
I know I am going to get a great big disagreement here, but believe me I have my own personal experience with my son over the years.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
bt...Just curious... if you h
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:39 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
Just curious... if you had a child in a good university and one of their professors was trying to brainwash his students into the socialist model, would you tell your child to go along to get a grade or to speak out when the prof is spewing propaganda?
Ct...Speak out and question..
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 16:51 ET by bigtimerCt...
Speak out and question...period. If that is how he truly felt.
I have watched my son change over the years, but I am glad for whatever influence I can insert when I do, he will be fine in the end...in fact he is ending up being a commercial airplane pilot, most likely going to work in the Forest Service one way or the other he has scads of credits he applied to get the credits to do this...it is a long story, he was going for a double Major in English and Physics, just short of it, he cost likely has enough credits to do about anything he wants by now...he has had enough college, I am glad he has finally made a wise choice IMO.
Long story....hehehee
Btw...I want to correct one thing to my above post when referring to Pelosi and earmarks...it was the flying and traveling bill I think, colleges were exempt...same difference in the long run....
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
bt...I have thought about thi
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:12 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
I have thought about this at length trying to decide whether getting that shipskin from a good school is worth keeping silent. It seems easier to go along to get along, but how could a person live with themself knowing they stayed silent foa grade. The only reason I bring the subject up is concern for my granddaughter.
My wife and I are raising her and will be sending her to a good school of her choice. My dilemma has always been to knwo what to say to her if she finds herself in this position. We want her to get good grades, but we also want her to stick to her values and speak out when info given out is bogus, especially when it comes to ideology. Thanks God I have a few years to work on the right speech.
Please excuse typos : (
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:13 ET by Clear thinkerPlease excuse typos : (
Ct...If you have raised her,
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:21 ET by bigtimerCt...
If you have raised her, then I would not be so worried, but trust me, they (the professors) have a way of changing some minds, you have to always grin and bear it, keep your mouth shut very little when talking to them about something you see wrong,after you have listened to them of course, they will thank you in the end, it is just good old-fashioned judgement and decorum on how you handle the situation with your grand-daughter IMHO.
I think she will do fine with grandparents like you that after all this time of us both posting have great values that will be instilled in her....no one will be able to take that away.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
bt...One thing is certain, no
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 17:26 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
One thing is certain, nobody will change her views. She already has more going for her in the 'values' department than any three liberals combined, and she's a lot smarter IMHO.
CT
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 18:25 ET by iveseenitallCT:
I, too, am raising a grandaughter. It has been great for me and my wife. I can say without a doubt, because of our conservative views, coupled with my life-long experience with liberals, she has her head on right and sees right through them. It's amazing. She doesn't even bother arguing with these people; she just tells us what they say and we all have a good laugh.The truth is so apparent once you see the light. Keep up the good work and your grandaughter will be fine.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
ives...Thanks.Now if we can j
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 18:43 ET by Clear thinkerives...
Thanks.
Now if we can just keep boys away from them until their 30 ; )
Right
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 19:08 ET by iveseenitallRight, CT. I think my granddaughter knows the score there too. At least I hope so.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
typo
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 19:19 ET by iveseenitalltypo above--- granddaughter has 2 d's. (pardon me)
Teachers
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 19:38 ET by iveseenitallI believe teachers, as a group, are at least as liberal as the MSM. I think that about 20% of our nation's teachers are good. The rest are divided between the mediocre and the poor. Unfortunately, teaching as a profession has been destroyed for a number of reasons. However, just as with reforms in Congress, there are too many special interests to expect an improvement. Education has to come from the home, more than ever before.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Left wing college professors are great!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 19:45 ET by Carl KolchakI believe teachers, as a group, are at least as liberal as the MSM. I think that about 20% of our nation's teachers are good.
Left wing college professors are great and really teach important subject matter. They are leading the young adults of this country in the correct direction.
Sincerely
Communist Dictators
"The Chancellor-the late chancellor-was only part correct. He was obsolete. But so was the State, the entity he worshiped. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for Mankind in the Twilight Zone" Rod Serling
Carl...Thanks for "Left
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 19:58 ET by Clear thinkerCarl...
Thanks for "Left wing college professors are great and really teach important subject matter. They are leading the young adults of this country in the correct direction.
Sincerely
Communist Dictators"
You definately understand this forum!
tranny
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 20:09 ET by iveseenitallIt's the tranny of educators. No accountability for the stiffling of independent thought. It's the direct opposite of what education should be in a free country, yet it is the norm in America.
NEVER, NEVER trust a liberal