Newsweek Wonders if ‘24’ is a ‘Neocon Sex Fantasy’

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With all the negative focus on an Emmy Award-winning television drama, one has to start wondering if the media are more afraid of “24” and any reference to terrorism than terrorism itself.

As NewsBusters has reported here, here, here, here, and here, the media have been in quite a lather about the first four episodes of the hit series' sixth season aired on Fox Sunday and Monday. Thanks to a report CNN did Tuesday (video available here, hat tip to Hot Air), we can now add Newsweek to the growing list of concerned media outlets. (Please be advised that it’s been difficult to identify whether this was just a web-broadcast on CNN.com, or something aired on television).

In his January 12 review, Newsweek’s Devin Gordon wrote: “Depending on your perspective, '24' is either a neocon sex fantasy or the collective id of our nation unleashed.” Much like other recent media carps and whines concerning this show, Gordon used his review as an opportunity to swipe at the current president:

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“At a moment when President Bush is squeezing our civil liberties to fight a war on terror, the writers of ‘24’ have come up with a story that asks whether something could ever happen here in America that makes civil liberties a luxury we can no longer afford.”

In CNN’s story about his article, Gordon stated:

If ‘24’ is true, then everything the neo-conservatives have been saying all along is true.

[…]

Nothing that happens on this show would ever happen in real life. So, for neo-conservatives to claim it as sort of a badge that they’re right is kind of like admitting that something that you watch in a fantasy world is reality.

Nothing that happens on this show would ever happen in real life? Isn’t that rather a bold statement in a post-9/11 world? In fact, prior to 9/11, mightn’t folks like Gordon have said the same thing about many spy/FBI/CIA novels and films such as those authored by Tom Clancy?

Potentially more pertinent, it seems specious to suggest that conservatives look upon “24” as a validation of their views on the war on terror. Instead, folks that consider the series as anything more than good entertainment see the show as posing possible downsides to inaction and complacency.

For some reason, folks on the left and in the media are missing this seemingly obvious distinction.  

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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24

Whether it takes the forces of evil a year, ten years or 50 years, their goal is the total annihilation of the United States of America and Israel.  People watch doomsday TV and film as though it's mere fantasy.  The question is how will the nation survive such an attack.  When several major cities in the US are destroyed in nuclear attacks and cannot be resurrected, when millions of US citizens are lying dead and injured in the streets with no hope for rescue or survival, when the basic economic structure of the US is destroyed and in chaos, what will our thoughts be then? 

When several major cities i

When several major cities in the US are destroyed in nuclear attacks
and cannot be resurrected, when millions of US citizens are lying dead
and injured in the streets with no hope for rescue or survival, when
the basic economic structure of the US is destroyed and in chaos, what
will our thoughts be then?

"Did I leave the iron on?"

Balboa = Smarm

Bal.  That was not funny.  Leaper made a very plausible assessment of our current DIRE situation.  Take you love affair with Hollywood and cram it up your A$$.  You need to move on to IMDB forums or something.  There are real issues that are being discussed here. 

Sure, I watch the MSM...     Through a pair of crosshairs.

Sorry, but leaper's post wa

Sorry, but leaper's post was so over the top, I felt compelled to lighten the mood.

I take it you are too stupid

I take it you are too stupid or too young to remember the Cold War. During that time, most Americans, understood the threat of nuclear war launched by the Soviet Union. Every month in my city there were tests of the air raid sirens, children learned about "duck and cover" (though that was surely a waste), and stores sold Geiger counters and food that could be stored for long periods. Most buildings had radiation proof shelters and signs showing the way there, usually located in the basement. It was not a joke, or a punchline to a joke. The Soviets were serious and Americans back then took the threat seriously. Little shits like you that have never read about history or current events, don't understand the threat. To you I say, your attitude is dangerous. Unfortunately, schmucks like you will get the rest of us killed too.

Wait, which is it? Either I

Wait, which is it? Either I'm "too stupid" to remember the Cold War or I'm a "little shit" that never read about history?

Grr! Growlllll! Snarl!

Why can't you be stupid and 

Why can't you be stupid and don't read about history??? Seems the most plausible explanation for the vast majority of your posts.

Why can't you be stupid and 

Why can't you be stupid and don't read about history??? Seems the most plausible explanation for the vast majority of your posts.

I'm gonna vote "Little

I'm gonna vote "Little Shit". I am pretty sure you're not stupid Amigo. :-p

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Thank you?;-)

Thank you?

;-)

I dunno Bal, stupid>don't read>stupid>don't read mmmmm.

I dunno Bal, stupid>don't read>stupid>don't read mmmmm.

:-?

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

Newsweek is kind of like a

Newsweek is kind of like a “National Enquire” to keep the liberals feeling all warm and fuzzy. . . 

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"24" and "The Sum of All Fears"

It ain't the sex, it's the seriousness.

We long to see the messengers of truth present truth.

That's it.

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dumbover liberals sex fantasy.

“At a moment when President Bush is squeezing our civil liberties to fight a war on terror, the writers of ‘24’ have come up with a story that asks whether something could ever happen here in America that makes civil liberties a luxury we can no longer afford.”

Mmmm, so an exciting TV series is managing to ask powerful and relevant questions that nobody in the network news departments can be bothered to think about.

And this has a dope like Devin (made up name) "worried."

Hey Devin, go back to reviewing such realistic series like Desperate Housewives -- the dumbover liberals sex fantasy.

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Gee, when I consider TV shows

Gee, when I consider TV shows like the West Wing (liberal sex fantasy about Clinton), Commander-In-Chief (liberal sex fantasy about Hillary Clinton as prez), Al Gore's Inconvenient Lie, Michael Moore's Fahrenheit Bullcrap, George Clooney's Syriana and Good Night and Good Luck, and The Sum of All Fears, I'm not the least bit concerned about 24 presenting a conservative side. 

In fact, we need more shows/movies like it to balance the lies from the left.

Hey, you've got the Rambo m

Hey, you've got the Rambo movies, Red Dawn, Alien v. Predator, what more do you want.

Plan Nine from Outer Space?Th

Plan Nine from Outer Space?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

That's a bunch of BS, balboa.

That's a bunch of BS, balboa.  The shows I mentioned, and while I'm at it I'll throw in The American President, are blatantly, openly liberal Democrat programs. 

The ones you mentioned have no open, obvious biases.  In fact, they are merely patriotic and pro-military.  You automatically categorize patriotic movies as conservative?  You fell into your own trap then, because one would assume with your logic that liberal movies therefore are NOT patriotic, and I submit that they are not.  They bash America, and they bash conservatives. 

I must admit Red Dawn is one of my favorite movies.

Red Dawn was quite politica

Red Dawn was quite political, which is why you (and I) liked it and why Hollyweird's lefties hated it. Take as just one example the gun confiscation scenes... It's open, it's obvious, it's bias (but on my side of the issues, for once) and it's what Hollywood lefties didn't want us to see because it's the truth, but Balboa's not full of any BS here by saying what's true. Truth is truth, and facts are facts, even when inconvenient for your arguments, as I've repeatedly tried to explain lately in other contexts...
JMR

And I loved Red Dawn, BTW. &q

And I loved Red Dawn, BTW. "Wolverines!"

Have you heard some of the

Have you heard some of the stories of just how hard "mainstream" Hollywood worked to keep us from ever seeing it? Dunno if they're all true, but after a while anecdotes that all say the same thing tend to add-up, at least for me.
JMR

I didn't know that. Interes

I didn't know that. Interesting. Although Red Dawn was so far-fetched, I don't know why.

All I know is that C. Thomas Howell gave a gut-wrenching performance. How that kid didn't make it big, I'll never know. Stay golden, Pony Boy.

Given the powers that some

Given the powers that some on the left have for decades wanted to give the UN with no questions asked, and given the UN's obvious proclivities against the individual right of self defense and in favor of self-defense weapon ownership-rights only for dictators, I'm not sure why you'd call it "far fetched." For another example of Hollyweird lefties' political power, this book was supposed to be a screenplay about 5 years ago, but for some reason -- in spite of the book's immense popularity -- no movie...
JMR

Thanks for the link, Sarc, I

Thanks for the link, Sarc, I ordered the book from Amazon.  Looks like a great read.

A really good government intrigue book is Dark Rivers of the Heart by Dean Koontz.

Great suggestion, fossten (

Great suggestion, fossten (worth a reread just like Unintended Consequences, but I've already read it once!). When you get it please DON'T do what I did to myself with both UC and Dark Rivers, which is this: When I happen upon a book I really like, I tend to read it obsessively, ignoring relationships/sleep/hygiene/food (if sufficient coffee/cigarettes) and especially sleep for days, because I'm enjoying the author's work so much. Thinking back on it, Dark Rivers of the Heart was waaay ahead of its time. UC is more of a dark fantasy with requisite-albeit-extreme bits of sex & violence, but the real literary value of this very-long (I was a wreck!) novel is the very-interesting & very-politically-incorrect history Ross manages to insert in an interesting way. Enjoy, and please post a review on NB to let me know if you like/dislike it. (Interesting factoid, Mr. Ross ran for political office as a Democrat!! This didn't endear him to either side of the political spectrum, making JR "sarcasmo's kind of Democrat." Needless to say -- just see both links -- Mr. Ross lost.)
JMR

If anything, the "Alien&

If anything, the "Alien" movies were anti-big-business, anti-military movies. "A v. P" was an anti-plot movie.

I know, I was just throwing

I know, I was just throwing out movie titles. Never even saw AvP. Cool premise, though!

Cool premise, though!If that'

Cool premise, though!

If that's code for crap premise. I'm with you. Two different monsters fighting breaks the golden rule on MOVIE making.

You have to be rooting for a human being or an ersatz substitute for a human being.

If the two franchises weren't dead, they are now. Though I will admit the Lance Henriksen/Bishop link back to Aliens was pretty cool.

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I guess just the idea of Pred

I guess just the idea of Predator fighting Alien is cool. But obviously they forgot the whole, you know, "story" part that movies should incorporate.

Indeed, it is a shame they se

Indeed, it is a shame they seem to have left out the plot.  Besides, which of us hasn't thought to themselves how cool it would be if the Alien and the Predator could battle it out?  I know in middle school we talked a great deal about what it would be like for all those famous 1980s slashers to fight each other (thoughts like these being the beginning of movies like AvP I am sure).

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Oh sure, Jason v. Michael M

Oh sure, Jason v. Michael Myers. Didn't they do a Jason v. Freddie movie?

I remember watching Predator for the first time and thinking it might be the coolest movie ever.

I read a book a while back th

I read a book a while back that explained both the Alien and Preadator relationship.  It was nicely done.  It seems the Aliens were the prey of young predators to hone their skills.  The aliens were set on an abandoned planet to propagate, which they do quickley then the young predators hunt them down using what they cionsider primitive methods. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

What about the whole libera

What about the whole liberal subplot?: Predators (liberals) and Humans (conservatives) can work together to defeat the Aliens (AlGore & Jimmah Carter).

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

It was a cool premise, Bal. Y

It was a cool premise, Bal. You are so right. The first 40 minutes was pretty cool. But, the last half was pretty crappy.

Alot like "Doom".

Unfortunately, I hear they are trying to make a sequel to "AvP"

Finally...A bunch of wimpy

Finally...

A bunch of wimpy media liberals discover an Islamo-terrorist plot in America that they can get outraged about.

And it's a work of fiction. Too funny.

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Liberals are obsessed with se

Liberals are obsessed with sex.  Everything they believe in is based on it. Pro-abortion, gay marriage, AIDS research funding etc. Liberal women use sex to both get, and complain about, men.  Liberal men…, well it’s the same, I guess.  Every human problem can be traced to sexual repression, deprivation or some similar thing.

In light of this, it’s not surprising that they would look at a T.V. show about terrorism as a sex fantasy.  They see the world as a sex-driven phenomenon.  These people are warped, and they assume everyone else is just as warped as they are.  They just can’t fathom normalcy.  Things that aren’t perverted, deviant, irreverent, depraved, irreligious, etc. do not register with libs.

Also note:  The libs consider 24 to be propaganda and fear-mongering...could it be that they think this way because they are practitioners of propaganda and fear-mongering themselves?  I think it's definite.

Well of course the libs are

Well of course the libs are obsessed with sex. I mean they want everyone to be happy... as a matter of fact, according to the libs, you can have sex no matter the situation. Married or not, of age or not, and with whomever you want. Golly, I can't wait for the libs to take office!

/sarcasm

some times, my ear plugs aren't enough to block out liberal manure.

I think most liberals see the

I think most liberals see the GWOT as more of the cold war propaganda we used to see in the movies.  Think of Red Dawn or any of the other doomsday movies where the USSR blows up the USA.  They saw the USSR go down, of course we see it resurrecting now, and they believe the current crop of terrorists will go down the same way.

The problem with their analogies is that the USSR and soviet blocks were at least somewhat sane and realized they wanted to survive and live.  The Muslim terrorists on the other hand don’t care a whole lot because their ideologies are religious in nature.  History has proved that religious causes are the most virulent.  This goes for the countries they represent also.  Even China realizes even though they can afford to lose half or more of their population if their country or the world is filled with radiation then they wont be in power any more.

The ideas are different.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Hi Dan The Man 2,I'm certainl

Hi Dan The Man 2,

I'm certainly not arguing with the fact that religious wars have been bloody and have caused a lot of death, but what about the ethnic cleansings and other wars associated with atheistic or darwinistic worldviews (i.e., Stalin) and other "godless" leaders? 

Dutch

I was trying to make a point

I was trying to make a point about the insanity of being a religious zealot willing to blow yourself up so you can have eternal nirvana.  That kind of individual is more dangerous because you really cant reason with him as you can a political zealot like Stalin.  Stalin and the Ruskies realize they cant rule on earth if the whole world is a bnuclear paradise whereas the religeous zealot doesnt care about earthly desires.  When these people are in charge of countries and nukes then you need to be wary. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

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That's it, I'm calling righ

That's it, I'm calling right now. I just can't resist.

some times, my ear plugs aren't enough to block out liberal manure.

Fantasy?

What was fantasy about 9/11?  What was so fantastic about the USS Cole bombings?  How about  the anthrax scare that put ol Keithie boy in a tizzy?  This is just getting insane.  Tolerant liberals indeed....

Sure, I watch the MSM...     Through a pair of crosshairs.

Who's been saying it?

Noel, it's difficult to say which is more outlandish, this one:

Nothing that happens on this show would ever happen in real life (yea, like commercial jets being flown into the WTC's, Pentagon, and capital building?)

Or, this one:

If ‘24’ is true, then everything the neo-conservatives have been saying all along is true.

But with the second one, I think the Devin Gordan (the MSM) should understand that much of what '24' projects as possible scenerios, have often been offered up by numerous leading Democratic folks as well. For years, they also have been wondering out loud - who knows what they say in private? I suspect the list includes, Bill Clinton, Carl Levin, Cohen, Kerry, Gore, etc. But there is one more group (and a  collection of groups) of people that have been not only involved in active planning for such scenerios for over a decade now, they have also publically (and privately - much has been intercepted) aired what they are warning will happen here.

about many spy/FBI/CIA novels

about many spy/FBI/CIA novels and films such as those authored by Tom Clancy?

In one of Tom's books, Russia joins NATO. As I was listening to his book on tape, Russia was in the process of joining NATO! Reality following fiction? How about Sci-Fi fans? Many of the things Star Trek thought up have become reality!

I'll rephrase the comment I h

I'll rephrase the comment I had down in the Olbermann post. Just what is it about 24 that has these "critics" and Olbermann so worked up in a lather? They are really overplaying their hand here. If the conversation was about "The West Wing", they would be sneering that conservatives were overreacting to "just a tv show". No, they must really be worried that this plot line will strike a nerve with some. God forbid that we remain vigilant...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

The liberals in the media jus

The liberals in the media just can't stand anything conservative. FOX is such a problem for these folks. Even though it outnumberes by the liberal networks.

24 may be conservative. How many shows on TV are liberal? The libs can't stand anything conservative at ALL. It scares them.

So we finally get a TV show t

So we finally get a TV show that appeals to conservative fantasies and suddenly the idea of boycotts and censorship becomes attractive to the liberals.  But I suppose only us Neocons can afford those fancy television sets with the channel selectors and "off" switch that they keep telling us about.

The Bodie Specter - "I'd rather be hit with Dick Cheney's shot than with Bill Clinton's wad"

No, (for all Liberals taking

No, (for all Liberals taking notes out there) an example of "a neocon sex fantasy" would be 'going to bed with Gisele Bundchen and waking up in world-wide Direct Democracy'.

But really we should all be asking the most important and pressing question of the decade: "How dare '24' invade the hermetically sealed lives of the Liberal demi-gods like Divine Gordon with such disturbing and realistic story-lines?"

Actually, my "Neocon sex fant

Actually, my "Neocon sex fantasy" involves girls in bikinis, not nuclear explosions. I think those idiots at Newsweek don't get out that often.

"At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was!" -- Yoda

Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone

Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone, liberal or conservative, would say that 24 is a desirable fantasy.  I hope our country is doing everything in its power to prevent this from occurring. 

Dutch

"I think those idiots

"I think those idiots at Newsweek don't get out that often."

Or maybe they get out plenty but don't like "girls in bikinis", if you catch my drift. You see mushroom cloud, they see reverse phallic symbol?

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I wonder if the new president

I wonder if the new president on 24 could be equated to Obama? Seems to me he got the office, and now dont know what to do with it. He is in over his head and needs Jack to bail him out. By the end of this season, he will be out of office and Jack Bower will be President and next season we will see just how this war should be fought. As for the Sex Fantasy, we need more top heavy young women in bikinis or their underware being interrogated by Jack. But then we lose prime time.

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...mightn’t folks like Go

...mightn’t folks like Gordon have said the same thing about many ... novels and films such as those authored by Tom Clancy?

I wonder how many people, having read the final chapters of Clancy's 1994 thriller Debt of Honor, closed the book and said to themselves, "Clancy's lost it. Does he really expect anyone to believe that someone would deliberately crash an airliner full of passengers into the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington D.C.? Totally unrealistic..."

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