Cold-Blooded: Hillary Threatens Funding for Protection of Iraqi Leaders [Video]

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Here's Hillary's idea of diplomacy: bend to her will, or she'll put your life in danger. And that's how she treats our allies.

Yikes. In the spirit of bi-partisanship, let me try to send a message to Hillary's handlers: emergency personality makeover required! A couple more appearances as angry and unpleasant as this morning's on Today and Hillary's odds of winning the Dem nomination will be as slim as those she accorded to that of the surge succeeding.

The strategy for Hillary's conversation with Matt Lauer was transparent.  Because her substantive position on Iraq is not as anti-war as that of Obama or Edwards, Hillary sought to compensate, in appealing to Dem primary voters, by sounding angrier about our policy than either of her rivals. From that perspective, you might say: Mission Accomplished. This was Hillary, rhetorically speaking, packing an M-4, grenades slung, knife between teeth.

But at what cost to her likability? Don't voters have to be able to warm up to a candidate? Yet Hillary hovered barely above absolute zero.

Beyond her tone, her message was about as cold-blooded as you can get. Twice she suggested threatening to cut off funding for the personal security of Iraq's leaders. As Hillary put it: "I don't think we should continue to fund the protection for the Iraqi government leaders or for the training and equipping of their army unless they meet certain conditions."

This was no idle threat. It was clearly a key element of Hillary's plan, one she repeated later:

"I [suggest] putting leverage on them and saying 'you know what, we provide security for the members of this government, we're cutting funding for that.'"

That is not merely cold. That is dipomatic-incident causing cold.

Back to tone: Hillary's snapped in anger in describing the letter she sent to Defense Secretary Gates, telling him not to take away a battalion from the east of Iraq. Part of that anger seemed directed at Matt himself for his temerity in trying to get a word in edgewise. Play the video clip above and just listen to the anger as Hillary says "and don't take away a battalion", etc. This is q-rating love-minus zero, no limit.

View edited video clip of Hillary's stone-cold highlights here.

Let me close with some more well-intentioned advice for the Hillary camp. Your candidate has already established more foreign policy/national security credentials than any of her rivals. Appealing to Dem primary voters by out-angrying Obama and Edwards won't work. It will only convince those voters of her unelectability in the general election. Don't forget the lesson of '04: Dean won the 'angry' sweepstakes, but lost the nomination because Dem primary voters concluded he couldn't beat Pres. Bush.

Hillary, try to appear like a calm and reasonable potential presidential. Threatening the personal security of our allies in Baghdad makes you sound like a Mafia don, not a Commander-in-Chief!

Early Show Update: Chatting with Harry Smith, Hillary repeated her offer that the Iraqi leadership couldn't refuse: "I'm for conditioning any further funding for . . . the protection of the leaders . . . on their fulfulling the political goals that we have expected of them."

Hillary also had fun with Harry showing off her Commander-in-Chief credentials, ordering troop movements around Afghanistan like someone caught up in a manic game of Risk: "This spring is a make or break time. I would strongly urge and Senator Bayh who went on this trip with me, we're sending a letter to Secretary Gates today. I spoke to the White House yesterday. They need two additional infantry battalions in the south in order to take on this Taliban offensive. And they certainly should not be moving an infantry battalion out of the east to Iraq." Aye-aye, sir!

Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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Thus begins the "Culture

Thus begins the "Culture of Eruption"

Summons the Cracken!!!

"Her thighness, Hillary

"Her thighness, Hillary Rotten Clintoon"  - props to Mark Levin

Message to Allies

And now, a message to our allies from the Democrat party: "You need to understand your role as our marionettes...or die!"

Mark, could some of her anger

Mark, could some of her anger be related to what she heard while "in country"? There wasn't much coverage of her while away from the safety of the US, and most , if not all, of her meetings were closed. What was she told and what was the attitude of the military during these meetings. Is it possible that she was given info that is diametrically opposed to her world view of Iraq? And, she now has to process and direct her anger at anyone who gets in her way.

Didn't she also want to "cap" the number of troops, starting in January? She didn't say what year, but I'm thinking, to close the ranks of her own troops, she would want it to be now. Yet, she wants more troops in Afgahanistan - I'm thinking this is a CYA - with the cavat for later "see, things got so screwed-up in Iraq, and nothing was done in Afgahanistan, with the assets there, we can now go back and do it right in Iraq." Pre-emptive covering all the bases and CYA so she can move with the poll results.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

Why wasn't there more coverag

Why wasn't there more coverage of her "In Country" trip?

Me thinks she was trying to e

Me thinks she was trying to explain her health care initiatives to the folks in the mid-east, so it had to be held behind closed doors.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

Oh, I see..   'splains it f

Oh, I see..   'splains it for me.. 

Hillary just doesn't have the

Hillary just doesn't have the charisma of a real leader.  She is ONLY focused on her progression into the WH.  I don't believe she is qualified to make hard decisions.  In fact, I see her running from that.  She will move in whatever direction necessary to get herself out of a tight spot or to avoid being held responsible for consequences of past decsions, or rather changes in direction.  She has no statesmenship.  She has no REAL patriotism.  She has NO leadership qualities, period. 

Hitlery

I'm sorry but I'll need to take a poll to see how I feel about her.  As soon as Dick Morris gets back to me I'll be able to decide!

How sensible and compassionat

How sensible and compassionate.

Must be the “Mother” in her!

THAT she is, just a follow-up

THAT she is, just a follow-up, would that then make her into the Mother Of All Democrat contenders?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

Hillary proves she is nothi

Hillary proves she is nothing but a political Wh**re willing to do/say anything the polls tell her to. She'll tell you it's raining while she pees on your leg.

I think so Fast Ed. The &quot

I think so Fast Ed. The "Chief Shrew and Knuckle Knocker"

Steel ruler in one hand and a bar of soap in the other.

Seems what she is saying is a

The infamos double!

Seems what she is saying is a

Seems what she is saying is already happening - "Iraqi Police turnout skyrockets" located at - http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9170&Itemid=109

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

Alright, time to be honest

Alright, time to be honest folks. If it was a Republican senator that had said this, you'd say "Damn straight! 'Bout time someone stopped screwing around with these people!"

By threatening the lives of

By threatening the lives of the Iraqi leadership? No.

Hillary

Threatening our allies? Doesn't this go against everything the Demos have been saying about how much we are disliked in the world? Guess Hillary wants it both ways. Does that surprise anyone?

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

I think you would see it as

I think you would see it as "hard-nosed," and a move to finally get the Iraqis to stand up for themselves. You wouldn't see it as threatening their lives so much as tough-minded incentives.

If you don't mind, I'll spe

If you don't mind, I'll speak for myself. This was nothing less than a threat on Hillary's part to put the lives of PM Maliki and the rest of the Iraqi government at risk. It is undiplomatic and irresponsible and no I wouldn't have praised it coming from a Republican.

More seriously than my last post, Mark.

More seriously than my last post, Mark.

I personally (great Liberal point coming out here) feel...

Hillary might just go to 'threatening lives' as a matter of nature and history of this very dangerous woman.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

I think the majority of poste

I think the majority of posters here have it right.  The US should continue to send billions of dollars in security funding to Iraq without demanding any benchmark results from them.  Hillary is clueless.

Sorta like Katrina, huh, truthsquad?

Sorta like Katrina, huh, truthsquad?

Or is that a little more 'truth' than you can handle?

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

Right on Acaiguana!  You hit

Right on Acaiguana!  You hit the nail on the head.  Hillary's insistence for an independent 9/11-type commission to provide accountability for the billions of Katrina reconstruction costs was just another example of her angry shrew-like demeanor coming to the surface.  Fortunately, the Republicans quashed that boondoggle with a party-line display of foresight!

Let's see... Got a cite for this claim? Truthie?

Let's see... Got a cite for this claim?  Truthie?

Let's have two.  One for the 'insistence' issue and another one for the GOP 'squashing' it issue.

Just for grins.

I'll be pickin' and grinnin' while I wait.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

Gladly Acaiguana.  Here's a

Gladly Acaiguana.  Here's a link to a USA-Today article pointing out Hillary's ridiculous strident attempt to foist another "accountability" fiasco on the American public and the successful party-line Republican dismissal of it.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-14-katrina-probe_x.htm

This was AFTER the money wa

This was AFTER the money was spent. What about all the cries to DO SOMETHING!!! ANYTHING!!! NOW!! Isn't that when the "accountability" should have been in place, BEFORE the money is spent?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MightyMouth, you are correct.

MightyMouth, you are correct.  There should be some accountability standards in place before billions disappears. It's just that Hillary is asking for accountability in Iraq in a fashion that comes across as angry and threatening, right?

Sorry, I thought you were s

Sorry, I thought you were specifically talking about Katrina. Your agrument is that Hillary was right about Katrina so she is right about Iraq? You still have not proven that weak argument, since Katrina and Iraq have nothing to do with each other.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Ah 'truthsquad' where's the 'truth' here?

Ah 'truthsquad' where's the 'truth' here?

Now this is interesting?

"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has rebuffed a bid by House and Senate GOP leaders to create a committee patterned after the 1987 Iran-Contra panel that would have a GOP majority — reflecting their dominance of Congress.

Reid has instead vowed that any bid by Republican leaders to establish a special bipartisan committee involving lawmakers from both House and Senate will go forward only if Democrats have equal representation."

Um...

"Reflecting their dominance of Congress..."

So, it just isn't fair, huh?  That's why the Hillary shot failed.  Now of course, people like you can hold her failed attempt to turn the political loss of the Democrats at that time into a 'majority' type game?

You know, truthie, if ya want to play games with me, be advised I am a PhD in game theory.  <Little known fact for all you fans out there>

So, take your cite from Gannet and <well> whatever...

I'd vote for her junk if there were any use to another Iraq Surrender Group.  Didn't like the Republican Majority, huh?

They might have focused on the Democrat Majority in Louisana.

This doesn't show 'persistent' at all and it sure doesn't show GOP squashing (after persistent, huh?) of attempts to look at Katrina.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

I was just pointing out that

I was just pointing out that Hillary is demanding her own version of accountability in Iraq just like she did wtih Katrina.  Isn't the thrust of this whole thread about the cold-blooded way in which Hillary Clinton demands financial accountability? I got the impression from the majority of posts here that her demands are inappropriate because the lives of Iraqi government officials are threatened as a result, thereby negating her request for accountability.

Or might balboa be correct in eschewing a 'hard-nosed' approach to accountability to stop all this 'screwing around'?

Which is it, demand accountability in a 'hard-nosed' fashion, demand it in a diplomatic fashion that isn't hard-nosed (and possibly toothless), or just let the money keep rolling in without scrutiny?

The problem with &quot;acount

The problem with "acountability" is that in war to what are you holding accountable?  Finances, people, warriors?

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Financial Accountability

It's one thing to demand financial responsibility.  It's another to purposly jeopardize the leaders of a newly formed Democratic government.  If they were killed, the government would probably collapse.  Wait a sec - that's probably exactly what Hillary and you want.

On the topic of financial accountability, where does stealing property from the White House on your way out of office rank? 

Whitewater?

Poultry futures?

Travelgate?

Oooooo, sarcasm!

Hillary or Unabomber??

Hillary or Unabomber??  Oooops, sorry, wrong thread!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, that's telling 'em!  Yo

Wow, that's telling 'em!  You can't win the arguement on Hitlery and Iraq so switch topics to Katrina.  Typical Dim manuver, right?

Have another beer, Runningbeer - my point was hypocricy.

Have another beer, Runningbeer - my point was hypocrisy.

After being beat about the head and shoulders by Katrina all year (or am I just imagining things in my shack in the Idaho woods?) I'm hearing this poster tell me that the money in Iraq is more important than our security?

Or did you get off on the wrong post?

edit - Man no matter how I try, I can't spell hypocrocy (i, e, a?)

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

So sorry Igy, I was just poki

So sorry Igy, I was just poking fun at Truthy for his lame segue from Iraq to Katrina. Theses libs can never stay on a single subject too long, they know they'll get burned!

Naw, it's alright man, I actually jumpt the rails here.

Naw, it's alright man, I actually jumped the rails here.

I was browsing some stuff and I'm gonna re-post this:

How stupid can a Liberal be?

These are the questions that we ask.  Well... Try this Hillaire Bellock poem.

Jim

Who ran away from his Nurse and was eaten by a Lion

There was a Boy whose name was Jim;
His Friends were very good to him.
They gave him Tea, and Cakes, and Jam,
And slices of delicious Ham,
And Chocolate with pink inside
And little Tricycles to ride,
And read him Stories through and through,
And even took him to the Zoo--
But there it was the dreadful Fate
Befell him, which I now relate.

You know--or at least you ought to know,
For I have often told you so--
That Children never are allowed
To leave their Nurses in a Crowd;
Now this was Jim's especial Foible,
He ran away when he was able,
And on this inauspicious day
He slipped his hand and ran away!

He hadn't gone a yard when--Bang!
With open Jaws, a lion sprang,
And hungrily began to eat
The Boy: beginning at his feet.
Now, just imagine how it feels
When first your toes and then your heels,
And then by gradual degrees,
Your shins and ankles, calves and knees,
Are slowly eaten, bit by bit.
No wonder Jim detested it!
No wonder that he shouted ``Hi!''

The Honest Keeper heard his cry,
Though very fat he almost ran
To help the little gentleman.
``Ponto!'' he ordered as he came
(For Ponto was the Lion's name),
``Ponto!'' he cried, with angry Frown,
``Let go, Sir! Down, Sir! Put it down!''
The Lion made a sudden stop,
He let the Dainty Morsel drop,
And slunk reluctant to his Cage,
Snarling with Disappointed Rage.
But when he bent him over Jim,
The Honest Keeper's Eyes were dim.
The Lion having reached his Head,
The Miserable Boy was dead!

When Nurse informed his Parents, they
Were more Concerned than I can say:--
His Mother, as She dried her eyes,
Said, ``Well--it gives me no surprise,
He would not do as he was told!''
His Father, who was self-controlled,
Bade all the children round attend
To James's miserable end,
And always keep a-hold of Nurse
For fear of finding something worse.

That's how stupid they can be

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

RunningBeer, I think you'll s

RunningBeer, I think you'll see that Acaiguana was the one who made the "lame segue" to Katrina.  I was just following his train-of-thought, not changing it like those libs who can't stay on topic because, as you point out, "they know they'll get burned".

My bad.  That's what happens

My bad.  That's what happens when I try to comment while doing some actual work.  Whoever decided &%$#@ multitasking was a worthwhile endever is an idiot!

Ah yes, the &quot;Katrina Bus

Ah yes, the "Katrina Bush Bash" amendment. Another "bi-partisan" ineffective, toothless commission spending taxpayer money, voted down along party lines, which Hillary surely knew would happen (she needed 2/3 of the Senate votes, and knew she couldn't even muster 50). But, hey, she could then say "I CARE about the victims of Katrina, those po' black folk who George Bush and the evil Neo-cons hate! Vote for me! Vote for me! I love Black people!", and suck in dolts like you who slurp up this political posturing like Cameron Manheim at a Chinese buffet.

&quot;...at a Chinese buffet.

"...at a Chinese buffet."

You bin here fow 'our... must go now! 

I guess Hillary is not part o

I guess Hillary is not part of the "Negotiate with the Terrorists" group of Dems.....unless she is willing to "Not to Negotiate" with our allies ?  I'm confused, will the real Hilliary please stand up, and identify your position...on something.

Sorry, balboa, but NO.  Howe

Sorry, balboa, but NO.  However this should be no surprise to liberals/Democrats.  This is the mindset that abandoned South Vietnam and let their leaders and a couple million people be tortured and perish under the Khmer Rouge.   Hillary actually WANTS this to happen to Iraqis..as most liberals heartily agree with, simply so they can point out the "failure" of the war on terror in Iraq. 

I mean really, what's a few million dead people, if liberals can continue to use their "vietnam" corrollary??

Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!

I'M off-base, but you're dead

I'M off-base, but you're dead on that liberals want millions of Iraqis to die?

He He, Mark, He... My ex-wife icon tries to have a military brai

He He, Mark, He... My ex-wife icon tries to have a military brain?

So, this woman, who would be President and the smartest woman on the planet at the same time (I am just amazed) has 'sent a letter' with Joe (I really am over my brain damage) Biden (next VP candidate?) suggesting the solution to 'security' in Iraq is to strip the government of its 'security'.

Good plan.

But what struck me was her irrelevant advice to the new SecDef.  Battalian Chess Board moving, by the Hillary?

Last time a Democrat started micro-managing a war ...

WHAT HAPPENED?

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

Hillary WILL do whatever the

Hillary WILL do whatever the latest poll dictates. Her most influential politcal advisor is Bill, and HE certainly was influenced by polls and the need for absolute power. She is falling into step with him...just like the good little wife she is!

&quot;.just like the good l

".just like the good little wife she is!"

Someone must have redefined what a "good little wife" is. If she was MY definition of a good little wife, Bubba would have told Monica to take a hike. :-)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Baking cookies and listening

Baking cookies and listening to Tammy Wynette songs just isn't Hil's cup o' tea.

Besides, wouldn't you stray if you were married to her?

Cookies make me fat and I h

Cookies make me fat and I hate Tammy Wynette songs. No, I had something else in mind, which apparantly isn't Hil's cup o' tea either. Would I stray if married to Hillary? As opposed to eating a bullet at 750 fps.. yes!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

You just can't keep the Witch

You just can't keep the Witchy-poo part of her hidden all the time, handlers, huh? (They are like rattlesnake handlers, aren't they, Hillary's 'posse'!) Bring Hil-Rod on!!  Can't wait for the smack down in '08.  The media gloss can't cover that face, no way.

By the way, John Kerry knows it's all over for him.   Obama is there now, Hillary is there, heck, even a delusional Chris Dodd is there!  Not gonna happen, John 'Fin" Kerry.  So sorry. 

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Kerry

Right. Kerry down, thank God. Now lets see the others in this line of idiots put their foot in their mouth. Hillary's got a good start. When Obama stops worrying about his ears, he'll have to make some policy statements too. Can't wait.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

&quot;A couple more appearanc

"A couple more appearances as angry and unpleasant as this morning's on Today..."  Mark, she should be encouraged to make many more such appearances.  If she keeps it up, not only will there not be a President Hillary, there will no longer be a Senator Hillary.  So, Hillary, you go girl!  Open that mouth, shriek your lines, commit political suicide.  Do this country a favor by appearing loud and appearing often.  Hire Dean to be your speech coach: Eaaarrrrrrrrrgh!

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Yeah good point. SHRILLary, j

Yeah good point. SHRILLary, just like Algore, John sKerry, and Howard Dean don't have the charisma of Sick Willie and Obama. They only hurt their image and the image of their Demagogue Party when they speak. Her best path to the White House is to keep silent and out of the public limelight and let the fawning liberal media promote her. So, as disgusting and vomit-inducing as it is to hear this vicious, diabolical, incompetent woman, keep talking Hillary! PLEASE!

The only problem with her mak

The only problem with her making more appearances is that she'll just have that many more opportunities to lie thru her teeth.

In addition, none of the DNC water-carriers who "interview" her, like Russert, Wolf-man Blitzed, or George Stephenopoulos, will EVER ask her tough questions. After all, she managed to fool an entire state into voting for her for Senator, despite having zero experience. They never asked her the tough questions then, and they won't ask her the tough questions now.

VOTE DEM IN '08CALL-1-800-COW

VOTE DEM IN '08

CALL-1-800-COW-ARDS

I wonder if Shillary knows th

I wonder if Shillary knows that Afghanistan is not a US offensive but operated by NATO.  NATO decides who and what gets placed where, the President as I see it is kind of a consultant but not the one in charge.  NATO

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

&quot;I [suggest] putting lev

"I [suggest] putting leverage on them and saying 'you know what, we provide security for the members of this government, we're cutting funding for that."...and Senator then please tell us what happens when the Iraqi leaders are assassinated and Iran invades, please tell us what happens then...as apparently you are the expert. 

Anything she does is for political reasons...Bush makes a big speech and she goes to Iraq; please everything she does and says is BS and is only for her political gain...that is why she will never be elected because no one knows how she really feels!

It wasn't all that long ago t

It wasn't all that long ago the her thighness wanted more troops, and less violent video games - from MSNBC

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

Why threat to cut fundings f

Why threat to cut fundings for only the leaders? Why not cutting all war fundings as these lib-dems been advocating. This is really their plan- cut and run. But none of them can articulate it, because they have no balls to pull it through, since this plan is not winable. All is just political posturing. Just thinking again...it dawned on me now that the cut-and-run plan don't need brains, duh.

I do have a version of cut and run plan: CUT all drive-by-media coverage and let our warriors RUN the war until its over. This one by the way, don't need any brains either.   

Hillary...watch it, your pure

Hillary...watch it, your pure evilness is showing, AGAIN, you witch from hell.

"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under."  Ronald Reagan

Yeah, Hell didn't want her th

Yeah, Hell didn't want her there so they sent her here.

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

All we can hope is that she

All we can hope is that she keeps talkin' stupid for 2 more years...