Paper: Conservatives Have 'No Qualms About Torturing' Prisoners

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Are you a Conservative who likes the TV show "24"? If so, then Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writer Eugene Kane has divined why you like it so much. It's because you have "no qualms about torturing" prisoners.

In a gratuitous insult to all intelligent Conservatives everywhere, Mr Kane has declared you all to be slobbering Neanderthals who would rather beat your enemy to death with a club than use diplomacy and that the law obviously means nothing to you.

Some speculate one reason "24" is such a favorite of the Bush crowd is that Bauer is presented as a guy with no qualms about torturing his prisoners in order to get information as quickly as possible. In light of criticism the Bush administration gets for its torture policies, it doesn't take a think-tank expert to see why some hail the show as a breath of clean air.

Someone should inform this "writer" that the saying is a "breath of fresh air", not a breath of "clean" air.

In any case, Kane gives all sorts of sly slaps at Conservatives who enjoy the show.

  • ...some political types apparently would have no problem with it.
  • It's also Rush Limbaugh's and Dick Cheney's favorite show, which suggests there may be something more than just television going on here.
  • ...it was apparent to me the appeal of "24" is similar to that of another top-rated series that became the favorite of political types.
  • The show's popularity with some political types...

Is there enough "some types" and those people there for you? You can just hear the sneering taking place. It's a regular sneerapalooza.

Now let us observe how he wipes the sneer from his face to wax eloquent about the defunct TV show "The West Wing"...

Essentially, "24" is to conservatives what "The West Wing" was to liberals.

"The West Wing" was often considered a fantasy version of the Clinton presidency, as faux president Jed Bartlett (Martin Sheen) represented the best of Clinton's intellectual optimism without the nagging intern problem.

Ah the cherubs are singing and rainbows have come out. Yes, "president" Bartlett was all "intellectual" and stuff, we are told. His "intellectual optimism" is what appealed to lefties, you see. Heck, it couldn't have been the character's anti-business, socialist ideals that did it, could it?

Nah. Couldn't be.

Now, it's my turn to try to divine why "some political types" enjoy watching "24".

First and foremost, "24" is just a fun, rollicking adventure with a lead character that is serious about his love for his country, understands the threat under which we live, and is completely aware of what is and is not important during those times when tough decisions must be made.

Jack Bauer is not a lump-headed Neanderthal who merely bashes his way through the Constitution like a bull in a china shop, as Mr. Kane seems to feel. His choices are hard ones that are made in the midst of combat, decisions that are never made nonchalantly. And every hard decision Jack makes is a scar on his soul. We all see his anguish and we feel it with him.

"24" is certainly outlandish in plot and outrageous in the presentation of what really could happen in any 24 hour period. But the moral choices it presents for us to ponder as the show's quick pace relentlessly barrels onward is based on the dangers we face every single day in the world created by the sort of soft-headed, leftism employed by people like our wonderful "president" Bartlett and those in real life who are like him.

And, best of all, Jack is a hero in the best old-school mold. He is sure of himself, proud of his country, but not hateful and callous. He is filled with compassion when it is due and insistent on living up to his given word, even as those around him fail to live up to theirs. His word is his bond and his moral code is absolute.

Jack Bauer is a throw back to the kind of heroes Americans have loved since the dime novel made Wild Bill Hickock famous, since the moving picture brought us "Shane", "High Noon", Gary Cooper and John Wayne.

We don't have to worry about disclaimers, double thinking and mincing around with Jack. He is a real hero. Not some soft, neutered, half-a-man like any Jed Bartlett.

I can only hope that if there were ever any terror cells in Milwaukee, writer Eugene Kane would be lucky enough to have a man like Jack Bauer around to save his rather copious bacon. If not, then he could console himself that his buddy Jed Bartlett could "feel his pain" as he is being blown sky high by some suicide bomber.


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You know, it must be great to

You know, it must be great to be a liberal,  Any inanity is treated as legitimate and valuable pearl of wisdom.  You never have to worry about being attacked by a conservative, regardless of how much of an ass-kicking you deserve.

You never have to worry about a Islamic terrorist chopping your head off - as long as your continue with your rhetoric because that helps the terrorists.

I'd love to see Al Sharpton travel to Iraq and him get kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and his head cut off.  Maybe that would convince liberals that they are once again on the wrong side of the issue.  But they would only blame Bush for him getting killed.

Since they blame everything on Bush anyway, this might not be bad, however.

Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!

Warner, I reserve the right to make some other points today.

My immediate point Mr. Huston, would be that Neaderthal (one of my favorite species flopping around in the bone dust of history) was more Liberal than one would think.

Warner, I reserve the right to make some other points today.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

Um... OK, my first post here had no response, my second...??

Um... OK, my first post here had no response, my second...??

"What we have here is a failure to communicate..." :-)

I like Neanderthals.  They were cool.

Neanderthals never hit anybody with a club (I know 'cause not one club has ever been found in a Neanderthal nest).

Neanderthals had really good teeth.

Neanderthals were the Liberals of their time and their fate shows it.

Neanderthals were good with rocks.

:-)

So, all those comments casting Neanderthals in such bad light should all be sticken from the record.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

...and I hear they REALLY kne

...and I hear they REALLY knew how to decorate a cave and accessorize a fur pelt!

Their hairdressers left a bit to be desired, though.

That's REALY why Homosapiens won.

Better hair.

It's kina funny. Torture, lik

It's kina funny. Torture, like war, when done correctly has an uncanny ability to be effective.

Neanderthal

The best example of an "aggressive liberal neanderthal" would be barney fagg in that outburst that he gave the other day as the chairman in congress.

"Youa out of oada soua, the gentleman will suspend soua, youas out of oada soua"

Is there anything more obnoxious than a prissy, overbearing "fella" like him, with that annoying Massachusetts(?) accent demonstrating the "grand tolerance", "even-handedness" and "non-partison cooperation" pledged by those wonderful people on the left.

I hope that the American People are paying some attention to the kind of trash that they were so anxious to vote into control of this country. AND I hope they like it.   

I wouldn't like to be stand

I wouldn't like to be standing in front of Barney Frank as he wielded his gavel.

I think his new title is Shrieker of the House. Geesh, what a drama queen.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

You'd betta watch yourself, y

You'd betta watch yourself, you conservative Ohio redneck!  He might try to slap you silly.

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Nah

Kathleen

Naahhh! You see, I am not quite as you say. On the contrary, I am a Christian, Conservative, Marine, Ohio Redneck. To my knowledge, no one in my entire family has disgraced us by ever voting for a democrat, let alone the kind of derelicts in charge of congress today.

My wife's family were generally democrats (eeewww!), although she shared none of their political views. Just the same, to maintain purity, I required her to provide proof of her registration as a Republican, prior to the nuptials being said.

I submit if old barney ever looked into my eyes, his blood would run cold.

Torture

Torture?  You want torture??  Torture is being forced to look at Katie Colonic spouting leftist drivel...watching your TV screen glass melt under the visage of Rosie the Hutt...listening to Davy "Gay-boy" Gregory insult President Bush to the delight of the Drive-By Media...or reading comments by grown men who get paid to write about the "Vast Wasteland"!

well, to a Liberal and from w

well, to a Liberal and from watching my TV during Abu Grav...:

1. Going without sleep is torture (any new parents out there?)

2. Serving red wine with a white meat is torture.

3. Playing loud music is torture (parents of teenagers?)

4. saying anything to degrade a persons self-esteem is torture

5. driving a SUV is torture to the earth

6. listening to Rush or Hannity is torture

7. having to pay for gas* is torture (* sub out with: food, water, meds, anything money can buy)

Well, I don't know about all

Well, I don't know about all the others but I'd definitly agree with #6!

Have you ever actually listen

Have you ever actually listened to them or do you just believe what others tell you about them at face value?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Sure. Believe it or not when

Sure. Believe it or not when Rush first aired in my market, I listened to him all the time and thought he was fairly entertaining. As he got more hateful and started spewing garbage and claiming it was fact, I quit listening. I'll still tune him in from time to time, but he doesn't even have any entertainment value currently. I watch Fox from time to time and find some of it entertaining, little of it informative. You may want to check out www.newshounds.us.

Yeah, the radio dial is a wasteland without Air America, huh?

Yeah, the radio dial is a wasteland without Air America, huh?

Let's see if I can paraphrase it this way:

Air America:  "Now today for our 5 hour non-commercial interrupted discussion of why Bushies are all idiots, neo-conservatives are all fascists and Laura Bush is a teen-age murderer, here's Noam Chomsky, a 'leading thinker of our time'.  Noam...

Noam:  "Well, if one were to really understand the European roots of culture and their incredible depth when it comes to human events and relationships of ideas with the Church; then one of course needs to increasingly be alarmed at the evolution of Western Civilization since Dwight Eisenhower became President for nothing more than leading the evil fascist US in a war against the Proletariate in the fields of Italy.  And...(blah blah blah)

Rush:  "Liberals are without any sense of humor and if one demonstrates and illustrates absurdity by being absurd, it means that the Liberals who listen to my show will be upset by it.  But, since Liberals have become so absurd in the last 5 years, we are looking now for a different way to highlight their absurdity."

End of that story.

Back to you Sissle and Ollie.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

When exactly, was that? And,

When exactly, was that? And, please be more specific.  I mean, "the hate-spewing"?  I listen to Rush and I don't hear "hate-spewing".  I hear him dressing down the drive-by media and liberals and their often unAmerican, silly, leftist points-of-view.  There is plenty of 'hate-spewing' on MSNBC these days, if you're looking for a good example of that.

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

sorry, I was in a rush.  'sp

sorry, I was in a rush.  'spewing garbage' and 'hateful'.  Define with examples, please.

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Search on "Rush Limbaugh's li

Search on "Rush Limbaugh's lies" and you should get a fair amount. I even question what I hear on Air America and end up having to look up a lot of what they say and they don't get it right all the time either.

please provide your favorit

please provide your favorite one

What is so damn hateful about

What is so damn hateful about Rush?

Besides, your whining reminds me of an incident where I was at a cigar shop with a Leftist friend of mine.  I recited some cigar knowledge for him, which he was not expecting me to have, as I had never purchased a cigar in my life.  He was shocked at this, and then kept pressing me for the source of information.  I simply smiled, and told him, "You just might be surprised."  He kept pressing and then I told him, "Everything I know about cigars comes from the Rush Limbaugh program."  His jaw hit the floor. 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Its so odd when someone ask a

Its so odd when someone ask about Rush and all that hateful talk they seem to disappear.   My mother in law said the same thing I asked her, can you name one because I listen often and I have never heard one. She admitted she has never listened but that is “what she hears…about what he talks about” UGH…

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

BBallleaper-- you have reminded me of..

BBallleaper-- you have reminded me of..the old saw that TV is not as bad as you say--it is a half-vast wasteland!

(Bauer's) " choices ar

(Bauer's) " choices are hard ones that are made in the midst of combat,
decisions that are never made nonchalantly. And every hard decision
Jack makes is a scar on his soul. We all see his anguish and we feel it
with him."

Very true. I just started watching "24" this week...fantastic show...I swear an hour went by in 15 minutes. And yes, Jack was anguished, said he couldn't do it any more. And yes, I felt it. Then when the nuke went off, he knew he couldn't quit, no matter the cost to himself.

We need heroes like that...even if they are only fictional.

This show won't submit to po

This show won't submit to political correctness either, that's why it's so popular. Liberals' mindset IS always to negotiate, even when you're already hit. Instead of defending and fighting, the leftists would rather blame America first, then appease with the enemies, negotiate and renegotiate more. We need more Jack Bauer and John Wayne nowadays...Well we have GW, Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh.

I have to disagree with you o

I have to disagree with you on libs always wanting to negotiate.  Ask the many conservatives that try to speak at college campuses.  In those cases, they try to hit first.

I would like to disagree with

I would like to disagree with you too...Ann Coulter spoke to college students, she was stoned and harrased (well good, because she can defend herself...). Recently, Columbia's students harrased the Minutemen and the symposium. The libs doesn't want to hear conservative views, they want to shut us down. In most cases in any conservative students activities, they get hit first and blame conservatism as the problem. Even in my grad class, we are all advised not too political in our discussions. For academics sake, are we going to get hit and indoctrinated without retaliation. No WAY, boy.  

Well, I think liberals are bi

Well, I think liberals are big fans of the MSM because they have "no qualms about "torturing" facts.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Is a 'tortured fact' like a 'frayed knot'?

Is a 'tortured fact' like a 'frayed knot'?

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.

I'm afraid not.  :)When aske

I'm afraid not.  :)

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

HA!  Good one Jerry!

HA!  Good one Jerry!

I realize that this thread is

I realize that this thread is supposed to be about how liberals think conservatives are all about torture, but Mr. Huston, you opened the '24' door. Therefore, regarding this show. More and more I find myself saying, oh puh-leeze!  I watched it alright, because it's a fast hour (two hours, the last couple nights) of thrilling entertainment.  But come on..  Jack gets tortured with a knife and some kind of nasty spear or prod or something..  we don't know for sure what was done to him, but it sure made him scream..  and remember.. this is so far only FOUR hours..  and not a drop of blood on him anywhere and he's not suffering or wincing in pain from ANY of his wounds?  Now the terrorist kid was wounded and he can't move! And, in fact he looks like he's going to die!  I'm sorry, I love it when the good guys win, and we all know JB is going to win, until he gets captured again at the end of the season, but this is just all too superman-ish for me.  Give me back NYPD, ANYDAY.  Andi is my hero. 

rimsky, Using your criteri

rimsky,

Using your criteria you would have to immediately shut off ANY entertainment where someone is shot or kicked or punched. You just cannot simply jump back up and start fighting after being shot in most cases. Being shot, even by a small cal. bullett is quite a shock to the system in most cases.Yet, in nearly EVERY case in entertainment (especially it its the hero), they just jump up and keep going.

Furthermore, the "police" work in NYPD was VERY far from reality!!

"24" is all for entertainment and never claims to be a documentary.

Yeah, I know, NYPD, and for t

Yeah, I know, NYPD, and for that matter, most shows are VERY far from reality.  And I know 24 is entertainment, and fact is, I'll watch it..  so I know I'm being, well, inconsistent.  But come on..  how many cases of C4 were in that garage?  That explosion would have left a crater, to say nothing of the fact that the terrorist's body was still intact. 

Ok, ok..  I'm just having fun with this.  And we had fun with it around the water cooler this morning too. 

NYPD was VERY far from reality?  Man..  you just broke my heart. 

NYPD was VERY far from realit

NYPD was VERY far from reality? Man.. you just broke my heart.

Take it from me, man. My Dad was a police chief and he was ALWAYS railing about how ridiculous their "procedures" were!

Oh no. But they still call

Oh no. But they still call perps, humps, right???

Say it's so...

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

I recall an interview with a

I recall an interview with a police officer on one of the networks.  The interviewer asked the cop which of the police shows on tv was most true to police life.  His answer: "Barney Miller."

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Mike, you are 100% right. My

Mike, you are 100% right. My Dad, as I mentioned aboe, was a police chief and he said the same thing.

Takes all kinds to make an in

Takes all kinds to make an interesting world dont it? Even guys like this, that have no understanding of terror, war and TV. What an ignorant article to be written by one of our "intellectuals". Just the press showing their butts again.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

But if the terrorists told us

But if the terrorists told us what we wanted to know when first asked there'd be no need to torture them, right?

Unless of course you think terrorists who are planning mass murder have the right to remain silent.

I had heard that there is a n

I had heard that there is a new liberal version of 24 coming out to illustrate the use of the fairness doctrine.  It stars Jimmy Carter and will be called 3.

In the first hour, the terrorists blow up a bunch of stuff and threaten us.  In the second hour, Jimmy works with the UN to negotiate our surrender, declaring "peace in our time".  In the third hour, the terrorists blow up more stuff, decapitate our leaders and we all convert to Islam. 

In a shocking twist, they add a fourth hour when the liberals are shocked that their Muslim handlers won't allow abortion.  In protest, there is a mass migration to France only to find that France has already been converted.

See, that wasn't so hard.  If we just give them what they want, I'm sure they will just leave us alone. :)

Eugene Kane an America-hatin

Eugene Kane an America-hating, Islamo-ignorant, self-important, self-loathing, stuck-up liberal-to-the-point-of-being-irresponsible elitist terrorist-enabling usefull idiot and is probably one of those guys the feminazi's were able to castrate at an early age. (Did I mention he was testosterone challenged?).  If you took him back to the early 1800's and left him, he would starve to death within a week, as would most of his kind.

Jack, on the other hand, would probably be eating like a king his first evening.

Does Kane Have Heroes?

Nothing like reemphasizing stereotypes, huh, Mr. Kane. Milwaukee Sentinal is a second-rate paper of a second-rate town. If you've ever seen or studied their screwed up school system, you'd understand. Would this Kane guy beg for his civil/human rights if a terrorist ever got his/her hands on him? Or would they ignore him and still cut off his head? I love how this guy wants to grant rights to terrorists but never thinks what would happen if he was in Jack Bauer's shoes. Oh, that's right, he's a wimp like all the other useless idiots of the MSM.

The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer.  Air Force Motto

emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.

Milwaukee always leads the su

Milwaukee always leads the surveys of pro basketball and pro baseball players as the "City they Least Like to Visit".  It's the city that had a socialist mayor from 1948 to 1960.  Milwaukee has few large public corporate headquarters and a dead downtown surrounded by the black hood on the north and the latino hood on the south.  People have fled in droves to Waukesha County on its west and Ozaukee County on its north.  They have not fled to Racine County on its south because Racine also has a dead downtown surrounded by a hood.  So there's plenty of reasons to call Milwaukee a second-rate town . . . . and in fact that may be kind.  The Journal - Sentinel on the other hand shouldn't get off that easily.  To call the JS a second-rate paper is far too generous.  Eugene Kane is a truly hateful black racist.  His columns normally defend the thugs in the hood who have long-suffered under "Whitey".  Therefore don't take him too seriously here.  The "24" column is out of his element.       

"as the "City they

"as the "City they Least Like to Visit".

Yeah, but Lenny and Squiggy are from Milwaukee, so it obviously does have some charm.

"Sclemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated. We're gonna do it!"

Conservatives, I assume, love

Conservatives, I assume, love 24 because Jack is a no-nonsense guy. Part of that no-nonsense is that he will torture people. It's not THE reason why conservatives watch the show.

I cannot watch shows like '24

I cannot watch shows like '24' because of the torture.  I have nightmares and it makes me physically ill.   Like listening to liberals on ABC, NBC, CBS and the rest. 

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Why is it a such a bad thing

Why is it a such a bad thing to beat your enemy to death??????? Isn't that how wars are won???? I guess I got my wires cross connected again:)

You're scaring me

 Kathleen,

You are scaring me.

"Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away" New York Times Nov 2006

sorry.  "He who has a t

sorry. 

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

that's wonderful, warner

"He is sure of himself, proud of his country, but not hateful and callous. He is filled with compassion when it is due and insistent on living up to his given word, even as those around him fail to live up to theirs. His word is his bond and his moral code is absolute."

You are close. It's very near the description of

Yours,

TUMBLER

Thank ya, thank ya very much --!

.

"slobbering Neanderthal&

"slobbering Neanderthal"?

I must be a neanderthal.I hav

I must be a neanderthal.

I have zero qualms about torturing prisoners.  Especially ones who fight for the brutal, heartless, merciless Al Qaeda terrorists.  As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to be treated like humans.

Let's see... torture a terr

Let's see... torture a terroist or not save a million lives. Gee, tuff choice... NOT!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

intellectual optimism is how

intellectual optimism is how he described Clinton; and Bush is the torturer.

Too bad this dude has no intellect at all and just repeats whatever Cyndy Sheehan says; and he becomes Mr. Know It All.

Repulsive he is!

Dream World

This "journalist" is commenting on something that doesn't exist.  Television is a dream world.  Reality is much different.  Americans are so absorbed in television that the news comments on it as if it were reality.  Wake up America!

It is funny to watch leftoi

It is funny to watch leftoids get bent out of shape over a TV show. Come on guys, you could always use the "off" switch.

However, as usual, they are three years and a mushroom cloud behind.

First, the FICTIONAL "Jack" has already done worse to his own patriotic colleagues than to any terrorist.

In Day 3, he was ordered to EXECUTE Ryan Chapelle, his patriotic section chief, with a shot to the back of the head, in an LA Freight Yard.

And 24 has already had Islamo-terrorists set off a nuke in US soil. So even that plot ain't new.

Another of Jack's bosses, poor old George bought it in that one. It's more dangerous to be in charge of Jack than to be an enemy.

And they've also set off an EM Pulse bomb in downtown LA.

And none of this ever got the libz attention. You wonder, even if REAL islamo-fascists, set off a REAL nuke in a REAL US city, would that get their attention.

Or would the average liberal slash socialist slash commie be too busy concocting CIA conspiracy plots; and converting en masse.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

"Come on guys, you cou

"Come on guys, you could always use the "off" switch."

I'm hearing echos of what I proclaim to various conservatives here,
WRT the FCC! :)
JMR

Hey sarc .. I did say it to

Hey sarc .. I did say it to get a rise out the usual leftists as that's what they always say. (Not you, as a you seem to be an equal opportunity liberatarian!)

But seriously, I have always thought that over fictional shows, and it's something I practice.

For instance, while I watch and enjoy many shows in which writers throw in gratuitous lefty propaganda -- such as Law & Order: Criminal Intent, I will switch off when they get too hyterically snide: such as any show that features committed Christians.

Battlestar Gallactica is verging on being unwatchable as they totter into Rod Serling pompous, holier-than-thou clap-trap.

Yeah, right, INSURGENTS/IRAQ we get it, as we aren't thick, as you think, Hollywood.

That's the problem. So many leftist writers really do think their audience is basically stupid. Now I'm cheering on the Cylons.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

You should have seen me, ch

You should have seen me, cheering on the Firengi -- especially at first, when they seemed (to me, anyway) to be digs at the only things I liked about the Reagan administration. Later, Star Trek writers understood after many angry letters (yes, some of us are geekly enough to care that much!) that commerce -- and hence Quark's Bar -- is one of the only interesting things they could write-about, and that they needed to finally "humanize" the hated Firengi, which they relutantly-did.
JMR