"Do you owe the Iraqi people an apology for not doing a better job?"
This is one of the questions President Bush faced from "60 Minutes" correspondent Scott Pelley on Sunday’s program. Pelley also cited the same "Military Times" CBS’s Chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod cited on the January 11 edition of the "Evening News," which shows more miltiary troops now disapprove of the President’s handling of the war in Iraq, and was highlighted by Brent Baker here on Newsbusters. However, when John Kerry and John Edwards and their wives were jointly interviewed on the program on July 11, 2004, correspondent Lesley Stahl did not mention a CBS poll that showed war veterans supporting President Bush for reelection by a large margin, and that poll was significant in that veterans were a group that Senator Kerry was actively courting.
On last evening’s program, President Bush defended his plan to send additional troops to Iraq to secure Baghdad, and acknowledged mistakes he had made in conducting the war. But he was challenged by Mr. Pelley who cited polls showing dissatisfaction among the military and voters:
Pelley (Voiceover): "But even among Americans in uniform, there is growing frustration. A poll three weeks ago in the respected "Military Times" newspapers showed for the first time more troops disapprove than approve of the way he’s handling Iraq. I mentioned to Mr. Bush that thousands of those troops have been sent to the war two, three, even four times already. Would he impose a time limit?
Pelley to President Bush: "When is enough enough for these families?"
After the President answered, Pelley followed up with a comparison to Vietnam:
"In Vietnam, as you know, you served 365 and you were done."
Later in the piece, Pelley once again brought up the subject of polls and inquired as to whether they are "crushing" Mr. Bush’s spirits:
"You know a lot of people have asked me to ask you whether all of this just crushing. It has to be. You read the polls; you know what people are saying. The war has not gone the way you had hoped it would, and they wonder whether it’s just crushing on your spirit."
It is true that the polls on the issue of Iraq are not good for President Bush, but did CBS suggest in 1995 that the Democrats should give up since at that time they weren’t popular? No, they attacked Newt Gingrich and the Republicans. And as to the question of whether President Bush owes the Iraqi people an apology, Pelley doesn’t seem to consider the other side. And that is there are many who would argue that it is the Iraqis who owe Americans an apology because of the inability of their government to secure Baghdad.
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Apologize to Iraqis?
January 15, 2007 - 13:49 ET by nkviking75There are some things this country could apologize for, like not getting rid of Saddam and the end of the Gulf War (the UN has a major chunk of the responsibility for that) and taking more than a decade to finally enforce the truce, which required Saddam to destroy his WMD's and provide proof, or turn them over to coalition forces so they could destroy them. And yeah, this latest war isn't perfect. But for all of Iraq's current problems, they received a tremendous blessing when they were liberated from Saddam and his minions. That makes their lives far, far better than they would have been.
President Bush should appol
January 15, 2007 - 13:53 ET by MightyMouthPresident Bush should appologize for granting a dimwit like Scott Pelley an interview. What? Fox turned him down?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Pelley
January 15, 2007 - 13:56 ET by nkviking75This is Bush's second major interview with Pelley. For some reason, he must like him.
Like Pelley??
January 16, 2007 - 10:24 ET by misterbillLike Pelley?? Nah---it's because Pelley says newk-you-lar.
"Do you owe the Iraqi People
January 15, 2007 - 13:57 ET by mbx175"Do you owe the Iraqi People an apology"
No, I think the Iraqi people owe the Unted States a "Thank You".
AMEN Mbx
January 15, 2007 - 13:59 ET by Chicago RepublicanAMEN Mbx
This is like that nauseating
January 15, 2007 - 13:58 ET by UnsaneThis is like that nauseating press conference I caught towards the end of 2003 when the journalists kept asking Bush if HE was going to apologize to the United States for 11 September 2001.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Wait wait wait! Hold on jus
January 15, 2007 - 13:58 ET by mikejWait wait wait! Hold on just a minute here! Wasn't there a story about Richard Belzer on Bill Maher's show telling some Congresswomen that her step-son in Iraq who supports the mission doesn't know as much as people here who read "20 newspapers a day"?
So when troops support the mission in Iraq, they aren't a good indicator of what is really going on and we shouldn't listen to them about staying the course and finishing our job, but now that a new poll shows a majority of servicemen are against the war, then we should pull out?
That poll was done by Gannett
January 15, 2007 - 18:08 ET by terrigYes, I saw that poll big and bright on an Army Times in the Schofield Barracks Commissary on Saturday. Funny thing is though no one I know in the military buys that poll. Hubby thinks they asked that 10% who are disgruntled anyway about everything. He's never been asked and he's over there for the third time.
I watched about 3 minutes of this and just couldn't take it anymore. I don't know why the president gives this Pelley the time of day.
If I were President, the conv
January 15, 2007 - 14:05 ET by Chicago RepublicanIf I were President, the conversation would have went like this.
Pelley: "Do we owe the Iraqi People an Apology for not doing a better job?"
Me: "No. You Useful Idiots in the MSM owe the Iraqi people an apology for being tools of the Islamists who are fighting to reinstate fascism in Iraq under the banner of Islam. The only way the terrorist can defeat the new Iraqi government is if dupes like you keep being used."
Hear, hear, Chicago.
January 15, 2007 - 14:14 ET by acaiguanaHear, hear, Chicago.
How's it feel to be the only Republican in Chicago?
ACA
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ACA - its a cold lonely world
January 15, 2007 - 18:51 ET by Chicago RepublicanACA - its a cold lonely world up here. thanks for the concern. I first moved here in spring of 04 in the heat of the campaign. I was going to pummel the next Kerry supporter that shoved a clipboard in my face on the streets of downtown asking me if I wanted to "help stop President Bush". By the grace of God I made it through that summer. Funny, that fall right before the election I was at a party full of trial lawyers and got on the kareoke machine and lost it. Started singing about John Kerry - - pretty vile - - can't believe I made it out of there alive.
Speaking about clipboard wiel
January 15, 2007 - 20:12 ET by UnsaneSpeaking about clipboard wielding Leftists crying about "stopping President Bush" - I encountered the same crowd in Seattle during a visit there in 2004. The question "hello, would you like to help defeat President Bush?" told me all I needed to know about the pathetic Kerry campaign. They were NOT asking if people wanted to vote FOR Kerry.
The funniest thing was that they would not dare ask me that question or throw their clipboards in my face - as I told friends later, "It was as if they could smell the evil/conservatism in my body."
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
In the den of trail lawyers, huh?
January 15, 2007 - 20:19 ET by acaiguanaIn the den of trail lawyers, huh?
I'd probably need one before I got out of there.
My lawyer (very bright guy who is also a friend) was a prosecutor for one of the IRS teams that supported going after the bad guys; became a big oil lawyer; turned into a Nerd Lawyer; and currently is learning about business law from me as he somehow never learned anything about lawyering in 35 years, until I hired him.
Story of my life.
But if some dolt came up to me on the streets of Chicago with a clipboard and asked me if I wanted to defeat Bush and that translated into voting for Kerry; being a victim of Kerry's Viet Nam behaviors; well...
I shouldn't go any further.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
It can be lonely where I work
January 16, 2007 - 09:56 ET by pbanks7It can be lonely where I work. Here is an excerpt from a recent online ad my boss put up. It gets good:
Responsibilities:
Will contribute to the application architecture in terms of web and batch programming.
Will assist in the administration of web, database, email, VPN and firewall servers.
Will support servers and desktop PCs, in terms of hardware, software and backups.
Pocket protectors are allowed, but not required. We do not allow aluminum foil headgear or ear antennae due to OSHA issues regarding lightning storms.
If you started on a system with two floppys and no hard drive, you may be qualified. If you believe that we should convert our whole system to some OS we haven't heard of yet .. welllllllll ....
Other info:
The boss is a jerk. Everyone else in the office complains constantly because they can't get their myspace pages to upload fast enough.
You will need to be sure the whole staff can download music videos without slowing down our 30 PC, 28.8 kbps, single dialup connection. (Oh, by the way ... we're on Pulse).
You have to clock out to smoke, and if you use the bathroom the wimmens use, they WILL beat the door down before you get to the third page of the current issue of TechnoGeek Monthly. But it does make great TP in a hurry.
We have 401k, and reward with raises and bonuses based on merit unless you tell everyone else what you got ... then you won't get another one for 12 years.
We have been in business for 7 years and have a stable, government-based clientele. Most of our employees have been with us 5+ years.
It's not a high turnover gig like Mickey D's, and we don't make you wear a polyester uniform. Yet.
We already have one employee that listens to Rush Limbaugh in the office, and that is our limit on that. If you even know who Sean Hannity is, don;t apply. So you may need headphones *and* a kick me sign if that's your choice of streaming audio.
If you're casual (but not lazy), have a tolerance for diversity, and are not afraid to work, please send us your resume for this immediate opportunity.
If you're looking for a slacker spot ... this ain't it.
This is not a 9-5 M-F gubberment gig. If you won't jump the bosses dead battery at 5Am in Escanaba on a Tuesday in March with 20 minutes notice ... do not apply.
My radio is labeled, "HATE," I regularly post excerpts from Newsbusters on my wall, and the following is posted on my door:
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
I actually watched a little o
January 15, 2007 - 14:18 ET by Dave RI actually watched a little of that as I was waiting to see the interview with the Duke player's parents last night. (I know, it was difficult sitting there while pointing a gun to my head) It was nauseating to see. I guess the new DimLib MSM mantra is going to be that we should now apologize to those we liberate. What will be next? Should we apologize to the French and Belgians for liberating them in WW II? Or, how about the South Koreans, as we surely owe them an apology for denying them the opportunity to live in a communist worker's paradise.
How much more upside-down and backwards can things get?
And why does GWB continue to play nice with these people? All they do is turn right around and savage him afterward. It kind of makes you wonder what his advisors are thinking.
Some liberation. Sounds like
January 15, 2007 - 14:46 ET by Agnostic frontSome liberation. Sounds like a party. The green zone is quickly becoming a yellow zone. Twenty thousand more troops so we can have the-troops-getting-in-a-helicopter-on-the-top-of-the-Embassy scene after Bush leaves office.
You can't wait for that to
January 15, 2007 - 14:57 ET by MightyMouthYou can't wait for that to happen, can you? Open a brewsky and cheetos then fire up the Xbox. Ever hear the joke about the guy who goes to the doctor because he has an orange penis?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM,ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!Damn, that
January 15, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Dave RMM,
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Damn, that was funny!
hehe Dave, you must have he
January 15, 2007 - 15:14 ET by MightyMouthhehe Dave, you must have heard that "orange penis" joke too?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I have. And it fits in this s
January 15, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Dave RI have. And it fits in this situation nicely.
Cheeto--
January 16, 2007 - 10:19 ET by misterbillcheeto-- His wife found out he was cheeto-ing on her.
Iraq
January 16, 2007 - 10:10 ET by pbanks7Are you implying that his green zone is more like an orange zone?
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
So, your favorite team of Terrorists isn't doing so well right?
January 15, 2007 - 15:01 ET by acaiguanaSo, your favorite team of Terrorists isn't doing so well right?
I'm declaring victory in Iraq this month. After all, violence is way down since Saddam and his gang have sorta lost their heads.
ACA
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Agnostication.....read Mikej'
January 15, 2007 - 15:07 ET by JayTeeAgnostication.....read Mikej's comment above on "Reading 20 Newspapers"...sounds like you let the NYT do your thinking....the ONLY "Yellow" zone on Iraq, is the Democratic side of the Congress. Nine people have been killed (Murdered) in New Orleans since 1/1/2007, sounds like a 20,000 "Police Surge" would do the Job, or would you disagree with that ? Sounds like the RUDI J. New York Cleanup was a "Police Surge" in cleaning up NY during his Administration. That seems to have worked.
We'll see, won't we. I wish w
January 15, 2007 - 15:25 ET by Agnostic frontWe'll see, won't we. I wish we'd either have put in enough troops to do the job adequately in the first place or get the hell out.
Wow, what a smart ass.
January 15, 2007 - 18:10 ET by terrigWow, what a smart ass.
Hey Ag,Just look at what the
January 15, 2007 - 15:08 ET by Dave RHey Ag,
Just look at what the Iraqi people are going to be missing out on!
I'm not saying that Saddam wa
January 15, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Agnostic frontI'm not saying that Saddam was a good guy. Just that it's not really any better now, and maybe a lot worse for some. BTW, we've been hearing how we're "turning the corner" any day now for about 3 years. I am still waiting.
Any idea how long we were in
January 15, 2007 - 15:22 ET by Dave RAny idea how long we were in Germany and Japan following WW II? See, this is the problem with the ipod zombie generation. They want everything to happen instantly, as in right now. The world just doesn't work that way. Never has.
Japan declared war upon us an
January 15, 2007 - 15:28 ET by Agnostic frontJapan declared war upon us and bombed us and Germany was in the process of taking over the world. What exactly was Iraq doing?
Do you mean besides trying to
January 15, 2007 - 15:32 ET by Free StinkerDo you mean besides trying to build nuclear weapons?
And that's not me saying it, I believe the NY Times broke that story.
Don't forget!!
January 15, 2007 - 19:40 ET by misterbillDon't forget!! They were also testing airborne gases on the Kurds. How nice!
I remember the videos of the bodies in the streets.
Picture that in a major American city!!!!!
......Germany was in the proc
January 15, 2007 - 16:01 ET by Dave R......Germany was in the process of taking over the world.
So is the Islamic horde, or have you not been seeing what they have been up to recently? Look carefully at Spain, France and the U.K. Sharia law is already in force in some areas of those countries. If the current birth rates in those countries continue unchanged, their well-known cities will be named Madridistan, Paristan and Londonistan. Much of Africa and Asia are in the same boat. This world is headed for a return to the Dark Ages, and damn soon if it doesn't do something to reverse the current trend. It will be an age run by 7th Century barbaric types with really bad attitudes toward those who are not like them.
What exactly was Iraq doing?
Regularly breaking the agreements that had put the cease fire in place in the first Gulf War. It was trying really hard to arm itself with nukes, among other things. and gernerally being a pain in every one's ass in the reqion. While the UN fiddled with the issue and it beame clear we were coming to enforce regime change in Iraq, which was the stated policy of the Clinton administration, he got busy getting the stuff he wasn't supposed to have out of the country. He managed to get rid of most of it, but not all.
Let's also remember the polit
January 15, 2007 - 16:21 ET by fosstenLet's also remember the political climate back in the 30's and 40's. There was no NATO, no UN. All we had was that pathetic League of Nations. And remember that WWI ended with an armistice with Germany, not a surrender. Sound familiar? Yes, boys and girls, the first Iraq War ended with a similar thud. Both times we had to fight the same war again.
I'm not a UN apologist, but you pointed out all the resolutions that Saddam was breaking. To some extent the UN at least kept Iraq in front of our faces as an imminent problem. There was some level of accountability. If this had been the 30's, Saddam would have been running rampant, e.g. trying to take over the world.
There were also no nukes in t
January 15, 2007 - 17:28 ET by Dave RThere were also no nukes in the hands of madmen, although Hitler had his people working in them.
That variable changes the whole game. In WW II we, along with the British, had time to build up and train our forces after Pearl Harbor, as we could fight a holding action until we were ready. We no longer have that luxury.
All the UN's fiddling around with Iraq prior to the 2nd Gulf War did was give Saddam time to get rid of his WMD's. This time, the guy wasn't armed with anything serious, but next time, who knows? I don't think people realize what is going to happen if Iran manages to obtain a working nuclear weapon. Something tells me the UN isn't going to be able to prevent that, or the Iranians from sharing either the technology or an actual weapon with their friends, as they are promising to do.
There is no way we can allow that to happen, and I don't care how big of a knot Chris Matthew's boxers are in. It will be us or the Israelis who will have to deal with Iran decisively. The Euro-pe-ons clearly are not up to the task. And we won't owe the Iranian people, or the world, any apologies when it happens, either.
"...Japan...bombed us an
January 15, 2007 - 18:28 ET by Chris Norman"...Japan...bombed us and Germany was in the process..."
Ahem, maybe if the world would have been a little more pro-active, back then, a lot of lives and destruction could have been spared...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Actually, Germany never attac
January 15, 2007 - 20:14 ET by UnsaneActually, Germany never attacked us. So why did we go after them anyways?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Actually, if I remember cor
January 16, 2007 - 00:20 ET by DyneActually, if I remember correctly, German subs tried attacking our ports on the Atlantic coast. Of course this was after we joined the war effort.
Not all Americans are stupid, it's just that all of the idiots are given jobs within the MSM.
NUKES AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 15, 2007 - 21:03 ET by ZippyAF,
By the way. Glad you brought up Japan and Germany.
They were also, trying to develop, NUKES.
Germany even sent a submarine to Japan. With some plans and heavy water.
ref.: History channel.
Before Halliburton invaded I
January 15, 2007 - 22:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberBefore Halliburton invaded Iraq, Iraq was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.
Big Rock Candy Mountain.
January 15, 2007 - 22:45 ET by acaiguanaBig Rock Candy Mountain.
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ACA...
Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Ag, you keep waiting. Be sure to attack the morale of the US.
January 15, 2007 - 15:27 ET by acaiguanaAg, you keep waiting. Be sure to attack the morale of the US.
Every chance you get.
Point out how Bush is stupid. Point out how it is a civil war. Point out how 'neo-cons' are behind the real evil in the world. Be sure and denegrate Condi Rice. Bring up WMD's. Be sure to chant:
"Bush lied, thousands died."
Take your enemy encouraging propaganda which abets their morale and your hatred of America which attacks our morale over to some place that has as much invested in the US losing this war as you have.
What ya gonna do when we win it? You will be sorta washed up in public, huh?
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
political correctness
January 16, 2007 - 10:26 ET by pbanks7denigrate Condi Rice
Hey! Don't use racial slurs when talking about our Secretary of State!
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
pbanks7
January 16, 2007 - 10:30 ET by misterbilltee hee!
Only the Left are allowed to
January 16, 2007 - 10:39 ET by kathleenirishOnly the Left are allowed to do that anyway.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Hey, Agnostic, we're still in
January 15, 2007 - 15:31 ET by JayTeeHey, Agnostic, we're still in GERMANY....it might be a LONG wait. and yes, the Germans killed the American "occupiers" after the war...but when we caught the brown shirt insurgents, the US military hung them from Lamp posts, in the town where they were "insurgents".....that seemed to work. That's just one of the effective measures the Democrats have eliminated in the name of "torture".......after awhile, you run out of usefull options that work, and are acceptable to the yellow side of Congress.
And Pelosi's plan is what / ? Build San Francisco "Batch houses" and wait for AIDS to kill 'em off ?
TUNAGATE!!!!!?????!!!TUNAGATE
January 15, 2007 - 21:08 ET by ZippyTUNAGATE!!!!!?????!!!
TUNAGATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tunagate. NO. US Senate.
tunagate. NO. G.W.B.
England and France had to wai
January 15, 2007 - 20:18 ET by UnsaneEngland and France had to wait 116 years for their differences to be settled. Europe had to wait 30 for the Treaty of Westphalia.
Sounds to me like we have a Leftist crybaby who hates the military to begin with, but above all can't understand why it isn't over in the span of a few short hours, like a good reality show or movie.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Aggie You Don't Know Squat
January 15, 2007 - 22:02 ET by emjem24I have a couple questions for you aggie, you little worm. Do you actually know what's going on in Iraq or have so many sniper videos blinded you to any positive realities? Do you know anyone in the military on the ground? Did you ever serve? Yeah, I guess I am applying the Babwa Boxer School of Military Strategy to people like you. You are what is typical of an impatient, ignorant American public. I've given up friends and people I care about in the war, have you? Or do you, like most Americans just say you support the military before you turn your back and leave our men and women in the cold?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
Iraq
January 16, 2007 - 10:19 ET by pbanks7Just that it's not really any better now, and maybe a lot worse for some.
It's sure better for our Air Force pilots who are no longer being shot at.
But you're right - It's a lot worse for the Palestinians who are no longer getting $25k a "pop!" for blowing themselves up next to Israeli civilians. You don't hear too much about suicide bombings in Israel any more. Hmmmmm.... 2 + 2 = ?
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
As one currently living in th
January 15, 2007 - 16:59 ET by PeskyDaneAs one currently living in the Green Zone, I have to say that yours is one of the most uninformed posts I have ever read. You truly do not know what you are talking about. Here on the ground, the war actually goes very well. 90 percent of all terrorist attacks fail, and 90 percent of those that succeed are against the soft targets of the Iraqi people. Keep getting your news from Little Katie. Makes you sound so smart.
Check your history. [T]he-tro
January 16, 2007 - 10:05 ET by pbanks7Check your history. [T]he-troops-getting-in-a-helicopter-on-the-top-of-the-Embassy scene happened because the Dem congress cut off all funding for the S. Vietnamese to defend themselves. Just like they can't wait to do for Iraq, as soon as it is politically expedient.
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
Agnostic, the only way we are
January 18, 2007 - 22:24 ET by Chicago RepublicanAgnostic, the only way we are going to have a 1975 Saigon replay is if your Useful Idiot buddies in the MSM continue to prey on fat, detached spoiled Americans with their irresponsible, one-sided, and sometimes false reporting (flushed Korans, yada yada). They cannot keep casualties and the cost of preserving open society in hostile world in perspective. But don't worry, American Idol will still be on the air.
Why stop apologizing at WWII?
January 15, 2007 - 16:59 ET by FishFace222Why stop apologizing at WWII? We should apologize to the Brit's for taking their land during the Revolutionary war, too; and pay them reparations for all of the income they lost because of it. SARC OFF
"I guess the new DimLib
January 16, 2007 - 10:11 ET by Eric Turner"I guess the new DimLib MSM mantra is going to be that we should now apologize to those we liberate."
LOL, you're right! I suppose the Union should apologize to the Slaves for freeing them from the south. Oh wait, never mind, they're still suffering under the yoke of slavery and bondage to the Democratic Party!
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
Comparable question for Bill Clinton
January 15, 2007 - 14:20 ET by Gary HallComparable question for Bill Clinton:
Mr Clinton. Do you believe that you owe the citizens of Iraq an apology for bombing the ______ out of Iraq (Desert Fox - 1998 (a true clone of Shock & Awe) and then doing nothing afterwards -?
.... and Mr. Clinton, how about the people of Rwanda (800,000 dead, the Congo (2.7 million dead), Afghanistan (60,000 murdered in late 90's), N. Korea (1,000,000 died in famine), Africa (HIV/Aids - you've acknowledged that you should have acted (like Bush has) ... hang on Mr. Clinton, I've got more on my list here.. hey, what's with that finger of yours.... get it out of my face!
LOLGood one, Gary...cleaning
January 15, 2007 - 16:23 ET by fosstenLOL
Good one, Gary...cleaning off keyboard now...
fossten - better if..
January 15, 2007 - 16:53 ET by Gary Hallfossten - better if..
Thanks. It would be a heck of a lot better if the media would only do it's job and ask the same questions of both sides of the isle. So sorry about your keyboard.(;~>
Gary H.Please offer a warning
January 15, 2007 - 21:13 ET by ZippyGary H.
Please offer a warning.
Beer on the tube is uncool.
Good laugh. Thanks.
P.S. Uhm, what about Kosavo??????
That's about 20k in troops. ???
It's evident from the intervi
January 15, 2007 - 14:58 ET by PacketbossIt's evident from the interviewer's tone that he simply doesn't grasp the real situation that exists. I watched the segment in it's entirety, and was not surprised how it was handled. Like a bad plotline, I could hear the comments and questions before they were asked...
I guess the only worthwhile thing about watching Shifty Minutes is to catch Andy Looney's segment, and try to see him drool into his coffee cup while blathering about the mascots schools choose and how it doesn't make sense to him...
Pelley: "A poll three we
January 15, 2007 - 15:03 ET by TEPelley: "A poll three weeks ago in the respected "Military Times" newspapers...." "Respected" by whom? Anytime some leftist dupe like Pelley calls anything "respected" that simply means: "respected" by leftist dupes like Pelley.
The problem with the military
January 15, 2007 - 15:23 ET by bassndudeThe problem with the military times is, there is no military on the staff. Just a name the paper gave its self to lend the impression they represent the military. They dont.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Too right
January 15, 2007 - 18:15 ET by terrigBassndude hits the nail on the head. There is no military on staff at those Gannett rags that the those in the service are told to purchase to "help" them in their career paths. My husband said it makes for pretty good toliet paper when you're out on patrol and you gotta go. I did have a letter published in there last fall under my maiden name regarding that idiot watada who is praised to the skies in the People's Republic of Hawaii. I was surprised it actually made it in since I deigned to criticize that fool.
PLEASE tell me that I didn't
January 15, 2007 - 20:23 ET by UnsanePLEASE tell me that I didn't just read that clown was praised for his actions in the PRH. When I was reading that story in Korea, I hit the ceiling. That moron can't spend enough time in Leavenworth.
Once I subscribed to the Air Force Times but ditched it long ago, as I found the information I needed to know was not in quantity in an average edition, and that which I did need to read about could be gotten for free from other sources.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Unsane, it is unfortunately true! :(
January 15, 2007 - 20:58 ET by terrigUnsane, this clown was actually given leave to come out here over the holidays and was at the "church of the crossroads" whatever that is in Manoa, and I called about attending this "event". I was told that people who disagree with the "Lt" were not encouraged to come as this was taking place at a "house of worship". Well, I have taken every opportunity I can to bash this clown. I had a letter to the editor published in December regarding this idiot being given leave and being hailed as a "hero". Yes, it's unfortunately true, he has all the papers out here (they're liberal anyway) on his side and 3 or the 4 news hours as well. His old man was given an half hour on "Island Insights" on PBS a few months ago with no rebuttal. The woman looked like she was having an orgasm (sp?) too tired to look it up. I called and I stopped payment on my yearly check to PBS Hawaii as I did give some because my kids watch "Barney", "Clifford" and "Thomas the Tank Train" & they brought out the lady from "Signing Time" whose dvds we have so we can learn sign language to communicate with our little daughter. They wanted to know why and I told them why. The lady said that they had had lots of complaint calls and many were withdrawing their checks or automatic credit card payments.
Personally, I think he needs to be shot. That's what George Washington would have done as well as Robert E Lee, US Grant, W.T. Sherman, Patton, etc. would have done with him. He also is "encouraging" others to follow his path. Of course I have to put myself into the boots of his Soldiers, would I want this fool to lead me into battle? No, so maybe since he's such a coward he's saving some of his Soldiers lives. Also, he thought as a JO he could write his own orders as he wants to go somewhere else besides Iraq.
They are a member of the Ga
January 15, 2007 - 19:58 ET by Right2thePointThey are a member of the Gannet group which gives us such things as USA Today.
Most members of the military rank them right up there with the National Enquirer.
They have one advantage ove
January 15, 2007 - 21:28 ET by lnthompThey have one advantage over the National Enquirer: the military Times papers publish the promotion lists so you can look for names of people you know and see where they stand.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Hillsboro, Oregon
I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.
Bassndude.I see the light.Sav
January 15, 2007 - 21:17 ET by ZippyBassndude.
I see the light.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal.
WHO RAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Bush to Pelly, &quo
January 15, 2007 - 15:21 ET by bassndudePresident Bush to Pelly, "In a word, No."
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
CBS
January 15, 2007 - 16:59 ET by seejayI remember CBS's Dan Rather interviewing Saddam.
I don't remember him asking Saddam if HE owed the AMERICANS an apology?
I guess it's it's because Dan was too busy kissing his ass.
The MSM
January 15, 2007 - 19:03 ET by iveseenitallIt's 60 Minutes and Scott Pelley who owe President Bush, the American, and the Iraqi people an apology. Liberal dirt bags.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
I was busy watching the new s
January 15, 2007 - 19:55 ET by Clear thinkerI was busy watching the new season of 24 last night so I did not get to see this interview, but I have heard about it all day today. Then a few moments ago I read this header... "Do you owe the Iraqi people an apology for not doing a better job" and almost punched out my monitor. What the hell does our president have to apologize for? Instead of listing a litany of things the Iraqi's should thank him for, I will end this by saying.... 60 Minutes is OPENLY WORKING FOR THE ENEMY.
BASTARDS!
Polls Are Selective And Misleading
January 15, 2007 - 21:42 ET by emjem24I love how Pelley continually asks Pres. Bush what his reaction is to the polls. "It must be crushing your spirit," Pelley said. Oh, and to use the Military Times like it's some kind of legit newspaper? Give me a break. First, it's owned by Ganette. Second, most of the military doesn't even read it. Third, the paper is as biased as the NYT. It's amazing how CBS, a biased network, used a biased newspaper. Most service people and veterans will tell you that it is. It appeals to the disaffected in the military that feel they haven't gotten what they deserve and have an axe to grind. But, then, it's nothing new to misrepresent the military on a faux broadcasting network, presuming to be the voice of the military, when they only express the voice of a hostile MSM and faithless, jaded public.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.