As NewsBuster Warner Todd Huston has noted, Sen. Barbara Boxer took an unseemly jab at Condi Rice yesterday.
Of all the members of the Senate, the one you might expect to be least likely to call attention to a woman's single, childless status for purposes of scoring political points would be Boxer. And yet it was the oh-so-broadminded senator from the Bay Area who did just that when Condi Rice appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee yesterday to defend President Bush's newly-announced Iraq plans.
In a segment narrated by ABC senior national correspondent Jake Tapper, today's Good Morning America highlighted Boxer's questionable comment, running a good-sized clip of the exchange.
Rice: "I can never do anything to replace any of the lost men and women in uniform, or the diplomats, some of whom . . . "
An interrupting Boxer: "Madame Secretary, please, I know you feel terrible about it; that's not the point. I was making the point about who pays the price for your decisions. Now the issue is who pays the price? Who pays the price? I'm not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old, and my grandchild is too young. You're not going to pay a particular price, as I understand, with an immediate family."
Whoah! Tapper noted that the exchange "seemed to many people to get a bit personal" a view echoed by the "Tough Words" of the screen graphic.
Back in the studio, Diane Sawyer observed: "I want to go back to congresswoman [sic] Boxer, Jake, for a second and the Secretary of State. And by the way, we saw the Secretary of State's eyebrow just go up when that question came in. I know that congresswoman [sic] Boxer has felt some pressure. Any new word from her on what she meant?"
Tapper: "Well, Sen. Boxer's office says all that she meant to say was that Secretary of State Rice, just like Sen. Boxer, does not have any family members in the military. They say she was not trying to draw attention to the Secretary's personal life in any way."
Note: Boxer's dubious remark has attracted major media attention. But at least in its crucial first half-hour this morning, "Today" made no mention of Boxer's blow. Think the folks at NBC might have covered the comment had a Republican senator addressed it to a Dem woman in similar circumstances?
Hot Air has video of the GMA segment.
AP Going Victorian?: The Associated Press used this phrase to describe Boxer's slap: "Even Rice's status as a single woman was fair game." Single woman? In an age in which 30% of all children, and over 70% of black children, are born to single women, how oddly Victorian of the AP. Was this just a slip, or was AP reluctant to use the expression "Rice's status as a childless woman" because that would have cast Boxer in an even crueler light?
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Once again GMA shows their co
January 12, 2007 - 08:48 ET by msh1973Once again GMA shows their complete hatred for the Bush Administration.
In fairness, I have to disa
January 12, 2007 - 08:55 ET by Mark FinkelsteinIn fairness, I have to disagree in this case. ABC actually was putting Boxer on the hotseat by highlighting her dubious comment. If anything I believe Condi is cast in a sympathetic light.
I don't disagree with you Mar
January 12, 2007 - 09:01 ET by The Real TonyI don't disagree with you Mark, but I just want to add that I'm not shocked or surprised at how low liberals will gladly stoop.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
I doubt any of us are, real
January 12, 2007 - 11:05 ET by DyneI doubt any of us are, really. After all, they're constantly in that position so they can do as much of the butt-kissing that they do.
Not all Americans are stupid, it's just that all of the idiots are given jobs within the MSM.
So much fodder, so little spa
January 12, 2007 - 09:02 ET by EdhenrySo much fodder, so little space.
Let's turn this around and say Condi has 10 children, all in the military. Given the Senator's illogical comment, Boxer could then "argue" Condi's decisions would be based on personal circumstances. If Boxer goes this direction, where national security decisions are supposedly based on personal risk, she belongs at "The View", not in the most powerful chamber in the world.
Either the decision is right for the country, as advance by the Secretary of Sate, or it isn't. The "personal" issue degrades the arguement (and ironically the women in power initiative)
I like your mind Edhenry...
January 12, 2007 - 09:07 ET by acaiguanaI like your mind Edhenry...
Having said that, (don't you love it) the point about where Boxer's brain might possibly be is very good. Here we stand, in a War in Iraq and Afghanistan and possibly in Somalia and the Phillipines; Boxer makes it personal beyond the level of intellect sitting in front of her.
Boxer wouldn't know how to go one on one with Condi if her head depended on it. How mindless can she be? Well, look at her record in the Senate. How silly can things get in California - dumb question, sorry.
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Why do Democrats get a pass on the "XXX meant to say..."
January 12, 2007 - 08:59 ET by acaiguanaWhy do Democrats get a pass on the "XXX meant to say..."
"Duh, soldiers are stupid."
"What our distinguished and overly brilliant Senator meant to say was..."
"It was a joke, come on..."
You know Mark, before 2006 elections I stood up for the common sense of Americans and never once thought they were buying into the charade of hollow Democrat talking points.
Now, I'm not so sure.
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Why do Democrats get a pass
January 12, 2007 - 10:22 ET by Tom1969caNotice, too, that whenever a Republican/conservative misspeaks (i.e., "misunderestimated"), the MSM and the left never, ever allows the "what the person meant to say..." defense. The person was just stupid to have said that.
(Of course, all Republicans are stupid. Reagan was stupid. Bush (41) was stupider than Reagan, Quayle was stupider than Bush (41), and Bush (43) is stupider than the lot of them. And I'm probably stupid for making up a word like "stupider".)
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VOTE DEMOCRAT!
(It's easier than thinking)
I dunno Tom, I'm a big fan of making up words.
January 12, 2007 - 10:27 ET by acaiguanaI dunno Tom, I'm a big fan of making up words.
Democrats can make up facts, or ignore the inconvenient ones. I can make up words. My daughter at 5 made up the word: "am'nt" to mean "am not". Worked for me.
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(Of course, all Republicans a
January 12, 2007 - 10:52 ET by deus_ex_machina(Of course, all Republicans are stupid.
No,
Reagan was stupid.
No,
Bush (41) was stupider than Reagan,
No,
Quayle was stupider than Bush (41),
Yes,
and Bush (43) is stupider than the lot of them.
Yes.
And I'm probably stupid for making up a word like "stupider".)
Not necessarily. Does that help?
Amazingly...
January 12, 2007 - 11:08 ET by UnsaneFor some reason he was stupid enough to run a baseball team, win two governor's races (the last with 69% of the vote), and the Presidency twice.
What was that you said you done (except intervene on dire situations in Roman drama)?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
For some reason he was stupid
January 12, 2007 - 11:46 ET by deus_ex_machinaFor some reason he was stupid enough to run a baseball team,
You believe he actually "ran" that baseball team? Thanks for the morning chuckle.
win two governor's races (the last with 69% of the vote), and the Presidency twice.
Money and connections can get you many things in politics. The Bushes are merely the Republican version of the Kennedys.
What was that you said you done (except intervene on dire situations in Roman drama)?
I've provided people with jobs. I wouldn't hire Bush to lick postage stamps.
"I wouldn't hire Bush
January 12, 2007 - 11:51 ET by MightyMouth"I wouldn't hire Bush to lick postage stamps"
Sounds like a job for Bubba.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
bubba & deu ex machina
January 12, 2007 - 11:56 ET by tumbler_2007Both of them are from French Lick, IN aren't they? Lol!
We Have A Trifecta Winner!
January 12, 2007 - 11:55 ET by JimboActually, I know for a fact that the President had a real stake in the Rangers and had a significant amount of decsion making policy, so you are wrong on your first point.
If money and connections get you so much in politics, and if the Bush's are merely the Republican version of the Kennedy's, why hasn't Teddy been elected President once, never mind twice? So you are wrong on your second point too.
Gee - you wouldn't hire a former President assuming President Bush would want to work for you? Doesn't say much for your desire to make money. Perhaps you are are against capitalism too. So you are wrong on your third point too.
Congratulations! You have won the trifecta!
Why don't you do a little res
January 12, 2007 - 13:43 ET by blarsenWhy don't you do a little research and find out how Bush basically tried to ruin the Curtis Mathes family by condemning their land so the Rangers could buy the land at a huge discount for their stadium.
All of his oil businesses failed as well.
"A 1991 internal SEC document suggested George W. Bush violated federal securities law at least 4 times in the late 1980s and early 1990s in selling Harken stock while serving as a director of Harken. This is essentially the same kind of activity that Martha Stewart went to prison over. Except at the time of the investigation, Mr. Bush's father was president and the case was quietly dropped."
Well, damn! I ain't gonna vot
January 12, 2007 - 20:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberWell, damn! I ain't gonna vote for that George W Bush ever again!
If only the Democrats had brought this amazing revelation up back in 2000.
Or 2004. They had two presidential elections, yet this was never an issue. Hmmm, that's odd. That damn Karl Rove must have drugged all of us.
Libertarian journalists (al
January 13, 2007 - 06:31 ET by sarcasmoLibertarian journalists (along with a libertarian ranter going by the 'nym "sarcasmo") brought up the stadium-welfare issue many, many times (including some times regarding some welfare-stadiums before the Texas/Bush welfare-stadium was even an issue) but the biased news media once-again ignored us. Why? IMO because journalist-advocates actually LIKE welfare in all its myriad forms, no matter which "major" political party is milking the public at the moment, welfare/subsidies/em-domain all mean even-bigger government -- a good thing for the news media. This is the same bias that's causing them to refuse to cover Dr. Ron Paul's presidential bid -- it's possible that fair coverage could lead to popularity for smaller government, and we can't have THAT!!!
JMR
"1991 internal SEC d
January 13, 2007 - 05:21 ET by ckc1227"1991 internal SEC document suggested George W. Bush violated federal securities law at least 4 times in the late 1980s and early 1990s in selling Harken stock while serving as a director of Harken.This is essentially the same kind of activity that Martha Stewart went to prison over."
No, it isn't.
NEW YORK — Martha Stewart was convicted Friday of obstructing justice and lying to the government about a superbly timed stock sale
Why should anyone take you seriously when you can't get the simplest of facts correct?
Sounds like you have serious
January 12, 2007 - 12:12 ET by UnsaneSounds like you have serious issues with jealousy, envy, and bitterness you should work a bit harder to resolve. (P.S. - That does not mean using the government to steal from the successful.)
You've provided people jobs? So, you run a business? I'd never consider taking advantage of a service provided by one as contemptuous of people such as yourself.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Sounds like you have self-est
January 12, 2007 - 12:29 ET by deus_ex_machinaSounds like you have self-esteem issues that compel you to defend authority figures who are unworthy of you.
What?
January 12, 2007 - 12:38 ET by UnsaneHuh?
I'm not the biggest Bush fan, but unlike you I can articulate better reasoning for that than "I hate Bush, he's stupid."
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Let me get this straight...A
January 12, 2007 - 09:29 ET by midnight cowboyLet me get this straight...
A die hard liberal feminist from the bay area personally attacks a single, childless minority female's private life, but the same feminists defend a sexual predator in the white house saying you can't question his private life.
Modern day feminisim, you just can't make this stuff up.
Very well said. Amazing, hu
January 12, 2007 - 11:37 ET by steviep831Very well said. Amazing, huh?
Was going to save this, but i
January 12, 2007 - 16:02 ET by FastEdWas going to save this, but is most appropriate now.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
when you live in a state with
January 12, 2007 - 09:36 ET by buddycwhen you live in a state with:
1. a horrible public education system
2. a large percentage of the population doesn't speak or read english
3. an extremely high percentage of the employed are government employees
4. a press that is not objective and which is openly partisan
5. a politicized teacher union
this is what you get. you get b. boxer. i can't think of a worse senator than boxer. she has done NOTHING for this state. but, hey, hollywood loves her. i am sure she got many calls from people at the la times and in hollywood that congratulated her for what she said to condi. the people she represents are those with big big dollars and with extreme liberal views.
buddy,Would just like to ad
January 12, 2007 - 09:43 ET by MightyMouthbuddy,
Would just like to add that all those people you talked about have huge energy draining homes and drive SUV's and/or Limos. But at least they don't wear baby seal coats. That makes them O.K. <thumbs up><wink>
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
"Ohh-day Spanky!"
January 12, 2007 - 09:51 ET by Eric Turner"Ohh-day Spanky!" (Buckwheat giving the thumbs up)
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
Don't get me wrong vet, I w
January 12, 2007 - 09:59 ET by MightyMouthDon't get me wrong vet, I wish I could afford a Limo & big house. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the high and mighty liberal.
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I was just voicing my approva
January 12, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Eric TurnerI was just voicing my approval! I agree with you! I think I can afford a limo, but then I'd be living in government public housing.
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
<chuckle>, I sense th
January 12, 2007 - 10:12 ET by MightyMouth<chuckle> I sense that you, like I, sometimes have people miss your sarcasm. :-)
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Sir, you are right! If ther
January 12, 2007 - 10:26 ET by Eric TurnerSir, you are right! If there's one thing you learn in the military it is sarcasm and it's effective use as a teaching tool!
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
I was just voicing my approva
January 12, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Eric TurnerI was just voicing my approval! I agree with you! I think I can afford a limo, but then I'd be living in government public housing.
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
Egads! My first dreaded dou
January 12, 2007 - 10:07 ET by Eric TurnerEgads! My first dreaded double post!!
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
That's easy to do, we have
January 12, 2007 - 12:30 ET by MightyMouthThat's easy to do, we have all done it. The ones that get me are 4 and 5 of the same post. Reminds me of a recent commerical where a guy is in his garage trying to figure out what a particular light switch does. He keeps turning it off and on and nothing happens... camera pans out to see neighbors garage door pounding her car in rhythm to his switch flipping. funny stuff.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I can think of a worse
January 12, 2007 - 10:28 ET by misterbillI can think of a worse one (maybe ) Feinstein?
Agreed Mr. Bill. Everytime
January 12, 2007 - 10:39 ET by MightyMouthAgreed Mr. Bill. Everytime I see Feinstein on the tube I want to throw a brick at the TV. She reminds me so much of Anne Bancroft's character in G.I. Jane. The resemblance is uncanny.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
my latest CA concern
January 12, 2007 - 10:53 ET by misterbillHasta la vista baby, what is happening to AAhnold?? Does he want to keep office so bad that he will violate our laws??? Oh well. on my post-apocalyptic map, CA is not part of the US. It is the country of Mexifornia. The country with the highest crime rate in the world.
I'm confused. I thought IR
January 12, 2007 - 11:00 ET by MightyMouthI'm confused. I thought IRAQ had the highest crime rate in the world?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
How about an obvious one...(m
January 12, 2007 - 11:55 ET by Senior ChiefHow about an obvious one...(mis)Speaker Pelosi- another from bay area. Go figure.
How about another female from
January 12, 2007 - 11:57 ET by Senior ChiefHow about another female from the bay area...(mis)Speaker Pelosi. Go figure.
I just want to know when the
January 12, 2007 - 09:49 ET by Eric TurnerI just want to know when the National Organization of Women is going to comment on this and chastise Sen. Boxer for the thoughtless comments she made about someone's personal choices.
Oh wait, I'm sorry. That may take place if they were actually a non-biased organization. But we're in "opposite world."
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
boxer
January 12, 2007 - 10:01 ET by misterbillsent Boxer an email castigating her for her treatment of Condi. Told her I was glad she did not represent me.
I assume you also sent an e-m
January 12, 2007 - 14:50 ET by crsheddI assume you also sent an e-mail to Laura Bush for her treatment of Condi.
"Dr. Rice, who I think would be a really good candidate (for President), is not interested. Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living, she's an only child. You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bella-depaulo/laura-bush-gives-condi-ri_b_36563.html
Strange that I went through 10 Google pages and didn't find a SINGLE conservative site that ran this story. Weird.
A bizarre suggestion
January 12, 2007 - 15:15 ET by UnsaneStrange as this suggestion may sound...maybe that is because Mrs. Bush and Dr. Rice have, oh, I don't know, talked about that very issue?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Sure would like to see a site
January 12, 2007 - 15:22 ET by crsheddSure would like to see a site that says Condi told Laura she doesn't want to be President because 'I have no family'.
I'll be waiting.
So, you require the Internet
January 12, 2007 - 18:11 ET by UnsaneSo, you require the Internet to validate everything? Should I send you a link to validate the sky is blue?
Certainly, with your trillions of degrees and your brilliance as an educator, you can understand that they just might have possibly conversed on this subject behind closed doors before Mrs. Bush revealed the content of the conversation?
Besides, it is academic anyway. I have resigned myself to the sad fact that Dr. Rice won't run for President. (I was in full panic mode when Paul Tagliabue resigned as NFL commissioner; Dr. Rice is on record as saying that NFL commissioner is her dream job.)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
In addition to what others ha
January 12, 2007 - 15:36 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveIn addition to what others have said about your claim, look carefully at what Mrs. Bush said: "...is not interested." Her statement implies intimate knowledge on the matter, like she had a conversation with Ms. Rice about the subject.
Your claim might have an inkling of validity if Mrs. Bush said, "...probably not interested" or if she said something like "because she is lacking those things she is not qualified."
Furthermore, this is about Boxer's ludicris and insulting comments. Most people in America do not have a personal interest (loved one) at stake in the war. So by the logic of her comments the majority of Americans can't have any interest in the decisions made in the war. Preposterous!
All of America will pay a much higher price if we wave the white flag in Iraq and refrain from confronting Islamic Terrorism world-wide.
Gun Safety Tip #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. (www.imao.us)
Since your source is the huff
January 12, 2007 - 15:58 ET by Andrew H.Since your source is the huff post--it's probably a lie.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Dumbass,In one of the above p
January 12, 2007 - 20:42 ET by Roger the ShrubberDumbass,
In one of the above posts there is a link from People magazine. Took me all of 30 econds to find it.
Weird how the Hufftard "opinion piece" twisted the facts to suit their needs, and you lap it up like a little kitten. You are worse than the fans of Fox News, which you despise. You are what you hate.
Sen.Boxer a standard bearer for catty women everywhere!
January 12, 2007 - 10:13 ET by CTSeems there is more than one catty women in the Democrat Party (Pelosi-v-Harman). One wonders if it is a California thing or a Liberal Democrat issue. Sen.Boxer sets a fine example for women in politics, meoooow!
Naw, it's a girl thingy.
January 12, 2007 - 10:16 ET by acaiguanaNaw, it's a girl thingy.
I'd never (as a guy) comment on this woman's hair, mouth, screech, brain, dress or habit of picking her nose.
Never
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Excuse me, but I think I t
January 12, 2007 - 10:24 ET by kathleenirishExcuse me, but I think I take offense to your characterization, aca!
It's a hypocritical, elite liberal way. Not a 'girlie' thing.
P.S. My opinion: Men are constantly judging women on their looks and sex appeal, much more than any woman does with men.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
I forgot my /sarcasm switch. And stop picking your nose!
January 12, 2007 - 10:30 ET by acaiguanaI forgot my /sarcasm switch. And stop picking your nose!
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
How did you know it's one o
January 12, 2007 - 10:35 ET by kathleenirishHow did you know it's one of my favorite secret hobbies???!!! Are you one of those Republican/Conservative privacy spies I have heard so much about from the Left? AARRGGHH! I'm ruined!
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
kathleen an exception
January 12, 2007 - 10:33 ET by misterbillkathleen an exception--that silly reporter in Chicago who was raving about Obama's physique. I may get a lot of guys on my case, but she acted just like most men do over women.
Now that women are supposed t
January 12, 2007 - 10:43 ET by kathleenirishNow that women are supposed to be like men, even emulating their more negative traits, because that's what Feminism wanted, right? Women to be like men, because men are superior to women? Huh? I'm confused...anyway, you're right. It is in vogue to be lecherous or rude for either sex. Remember when people used to try to be civilized and show some class? That's WAY out, man. Just like that low-life Barbara Boxer, going after Condi. She knew Condi wouldn't respond in kind in that setting, making it even a more cowardly act.
Condi will respond in a dignified way. Or not at all, which is also in keeping with her demeanor. I'd like to see someone go after these punks. But, you know how the media will play that if it did ever happen.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
I guess liberal unAmerican
January 12, 2007 - 10:16 ET by kathleenirishI guess liberal unAmerican Senators from California have been so emboldened that they feel free to get in their ignorant (and bigoted) digs in on our Secretary of State, a minority, a female, and a single one at that! If that doesn't say,"total hypocrite", and "real hater", nothing does. The proof is in the pudding. What's worse: these Democratic legislators have shown that they only care about scoring political points and making sure they undermine whatever plan the president has rather than working towards victory for the US.
This woman sickens me, like all her like-minded low-life colleagues. We are living in very sad times for America.
Can you imagine if a Republican senator had said such a thing to Madeline Albright in a similar setting. It doesn't take much imagination.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
It's all about power. The Liberals are vested in the US losing.
January 12, 2007 - 10:21 ET by acaiguanaIt's all about power. The Liberals are vested in the US losing.
It can't be said enough. They will trash anything anytime anywhere regardless of how silly it makes them look sitting in a seat in the US Senate or standing on a road in Crawford, TX.
Their whole thing is that we have to lose the war. They have invested their entire intellectual bank on the idea that we cannot win a war in the Middle East, we cannot introduce an idea as alien as 'democracy' in the Middle East, we are inferior to European Culture, we are destined to prove Lenin right and Adam Smith wrong, and we are the biggest bully and problem in the world.
Pretty much sums it up.
Power.
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Agreed. Power. Their own
January 12, 2007 - 10:27 ET by kathleenirishAgreed. Power. Their own self-interests before the US. They would eat their young if it guaranteed them more power and control. US interests? The greater good for their country? What's that? No habla anglais! (or similar sentiment)
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
It is ALL about arranging thi
January 12, 2007 - 11:12 ET by UnsaneIt is ALL about arranging things so the American people are nothing more than serfs for the government who pray every hour on the hour for the State to make their lives better by tossing them a few more crumbs. Why else does the Left want a toothless, Nanny State America?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
aca closing line
January 12, 2007 - 10:56 ET by misterbillaca closing line -- what happened to which city is next? I hoped it would keep people aware.
Well, I'm a creative guy, ya know. Also, it's the same thing.
January 12, 2007 - 11:05 ET by acaiguanaWell, I'm a creative guy, ya know. Also, it's the same thing.
Aside from my natural good looks, my sense of humor, my wit, my charm, my innate modesty - the first thing people think when I come to mind is:
"What a creative guy!"
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
I have the same pppppproblem
January 12, 2007 - 11:20 ET by misterbillI have the same pppppproblem, exceppppt, I sttttuttterrr!
Was this your inspiration?The
January 12, 2007 - 15:57 ET by FastEdWas this your inspiration?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Naw, FastED, this was my inspiration.
January 12, 2007 - 16:06 ET by acaiguanaNaw, FastED, this was my inspiration.
My system has been encountering serious slow downs due to problems with a switch. I hope to resolve it with my server farm guys before the end of the year. But for the last week, I've been thrown off the Internet intermittently for up to three/four hours.
Since I'm the boss, they are slaving away.
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Funny thing about Madeline Al
January 12, 2007 - 10:28 ET by Eric TurnerFunny thing about Madeline Albright. Apparently her father was one of Condi Rice's graduate professors while at Univ of Colorado and said that she was his favorite student.
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
Interesting! And, I lik
January 12, 2007 - 10:47 ET by kathleenirishInteresting! And, I like your tag line.
P.S. Does anyone remember how the Democrats/Clintonites reacted when the little film making fun of Madeline Albright and the appeasement of Kim Jong Il appeared on YouTube? They tried to get it banned!
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Rice/Boxer
January 12, 2007 - 10:49 ET by iveseenitallThis is one of the most despicable examples of liberal hypocrisy on record. It is proof positive of liberal shallowness. This is the same woman who would stand in the well of the Senate to support abortion, praise independent and intelligent women, fight to crash the "glass ceiling", and defend modern feminism to the death. Yet she immediately attacks what she feels is Seretary Rice's "vulnerability". Almost unbelievable, but, then again, nothing should surprise you when it comes to modern liberalism. If this doesn't make you sick, nothing will.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Considering that Boxer is one
January 12, 2007 - 13:02 ET by Prester JohnConsidering that Boxer is one of the most maniacally pro-abortion members of the Senate I find her concern for the "children" a bit disengenuous.
That's it!! If only Condi had had an abortion, then she would have some credibility.
What's Janet Reno's marital a
January 12, 2007 - 13:08 ET by Jack BauerWhat's Janet Reno's marital and maternal status?
If it's childless, maybe that explains her penchant for removing children by hook or by crook.
Exhibit #1. Waco.
Exhibit #2. Elian Gonzales.
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Great memory Jack - this half
January 12, 2007 - 15:51 ET by FastEdGreat memory Jack - this half states it!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Boxer is the walking, talking
January 12, 2007 - 13:14 ET by bigtimerBoxer is the walking, talking, perfect definition of the word bitch.
I watched the hearing, I wanted to reach out and slap her silly, along with most others on the dais.
Btw...Half or more are running for President.
On top of that, Rice does not need to ask someone behind her for answers, look through pages and pages of pretend info. from a booklet in front of her, she rarely if ever says 'I will get back to you'...she is a walking talking encyclopedia...I have never seen anyone like her. I for one am amazed at her mind, and thank her.
A true patriot. A great woman.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Maybe secretary Rice should'v
January 12, 2007 - 13:24 ET by Itty-Bitty-CommitteeMaybe secretary Rice should've said she aborted three babies. Then, she'd be cool again with Boxer.
Serves me right for just read
January 12, 2007 - 13:25 ET by Itty-Bitty-CommitteeServes me right for just reading the first 20 replies. I see another person had a similar thought.
Just shows great minds thi
January 12, 2007 - 13:40 ET by kathleenirishJust shows great minds think alike, right? The Barbara Boxers of the world are above scrutiny and being held accountable for anything they say or do. The Media, whose job it should be to ask those questions, never does. Compliant little lapdogs!
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Let's give credit to ABC in
January 12, 2007 - 14:17 ET by Mark FinkelsteinLet's give credit to ABC in this case for highlighting Boxer's comments on GMA. Over at "Today" there was no mention - at least not in the crucial first half-hour that I monitored.
can't allow ourselves
January 12, 2007 - 15:57 ET by tumbler_2007We can't allow ourselves to get over-emotional (Sniff!)
But at this juncture, I for one am PRAYING the Secretary of State is nominated to run for President. With every confidence in her victory I'll dance at the thought of Barbara Boxer coming before Condi with her tail between her bow-legs, and addressing her as "President Rice; how charming to meet you here! Hee, hm.-mm, ch-choke!"
Senator Boxer's comment is AL
January 12, 2007 - 14:16 ET by crsheddSenator Boxer's comment is ALMOST as bad as Laura Bush's comment on why Condi would never run for president (because she is single w/o children or family in case you forgot).
Stupidity on both sides.
Whatever, shed. Your compar
January 12, 2007 - 14:36 ET by kathleenirishWhatever, shed. Your comparison is asinine. More moral equivalency from the leftist. 1. Barbara Boxer is a United States Senator. 2.Trying to demean our Secretary of State and get in a sucker punch during what should be a setting where the interests of the United States are the only topic. Boxer's political gain (and ego-stroking) appears to be higher on the list in her loser mind. Sickening. She also regularly beats her chest and stands on soap boxes about women's rights, minority rights, blahblah, but it's okay to make boorish comments that, if spoken by a male or Republican colleague, would get them run out of town. And, the flaming hypocrite Boxer would be fighting to lead the charge to run that guy out of town.
Laura Bush's comments have none of that context. Also, I she isn't coming from a nasty point-of-view. She's probably right, unfortunately. I think it is probably something that would lessen your chances of winning votes. For men, as well.
Boxer should be run out of town, but for other reasons. COW!
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
very true, kathleen
January 12, 2007 - 14:45 ET by tumbler_2007You nailed it. AND, shred:
Boxer hasn't made any slight comment. She gave Condi a LECTURE, and anybody who's ever witnessed Boxer on her soap box knows what a complete, unmitigated fool she is. She makes it PLAIN. To everyone except of course, her own knee-jerk robots on the left.
Laura Bush's comment was that
January 12, 2007 - 15:32 ET by crsheddLaura Bush's comment was that Condi DIDN'T want to be President because she has no family, not that she would lose votes because she didn't.
The only ones who would be real concerned about a single person, especially a female, would be conservatives.
Unfortunately, Condi would lose votes because she is African-American and a woman. Gee, who would that upset the most-conservatives or progressives? Throw in the single aspect and conservatives see 3 strikes.
Looooooser.
January 12, 2007 - 20:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberLooooooser.
Condi would lose votes beca
January 12, 2007 - 20:50 ET by Jack BauerCondi would lose votes because she is African-American and a woman Gee, who would that upset the most-conservatives or progressives?
Why, the laughably named "progeressives" would cheer their tiny hearts out at every vote Condi lost. Hey, never ask a question you don't already know the answer too.
And by "progessives", I take it that's your code for "reactionaries" who believe African-American conservatives...
(I believe the correct term -- as coined by Harry Belafonte -- is HOUSE NEGROES)
...should stay on the plantation. If not, how come all the "progressives" never voted for Michael Steele.
Wasn't it more important for an outstanding person of color (universally accepted to be the superior intellect and candidate by all fair minded people) to be voted into office, rather than yet another uninspiring, rich, second-rate person of pallor?
I guess the "progressives" just couldn't bring themselves to vote in the HOUSE NEGRO, so they went with the usual race based choice, after all.
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It is deplorable what they di
January 12, 2007 - 21:06 ET by bigtimerIt is deplorable what they did to Steele.
Absolutely nothing happened to that piece of walkin' shite 'I never saw a camera I couldn't stop in front of' Schumer, the msm are beyond bigoted..... they are filthy to their toenails.
The conservatives lost a good man.
The enemy within will do the same to Condi if she wanted to run as we all know.
My problem with all of this, is the conservatives did not hold the dirty tricks and scum the enemy within did to a lot of people...they never do, I blame no one but them.... they have plenty of opportunities if they choose, they are afraid of being slimed themselves in the msm instead of standing together and acting as one!The accomplishments they could achieve if they just tried.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
I'm sure Steele's time will c
January 12, 2007 - 21:12 ET by Jack BauerI'm sure Steele's time will come. The man is too bright and inspiring to be held back.
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I agree Jack....believe me, I
January 12, 2007 - 21:15 ET by bigtimerI agree Jack....believe me, I agree.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
crshedd...I know many conserv
January 12, 2007 - 21:12 ET by Clear thinkercrshedd...
I know many conservatives, not one of them is a bigot or racist. I also happen to know many liberals and they are the most biggoted group of people I have ever known.
Here in the South it's well known that the racist jokes come from Dems, not Repubs.
"Laura Bush's comment
January 13, 2007 - 05:32 ET by ckc1227"Laura Bush's comment was that Condi DIDN'T want to be President because she has no family, not that she would lose votes because she didn't."
Dude, at least keep up with your own posts. She allegedly said she didn't want to be President because she didn't have a family TO SUPPORT HER. How you are able to make the leap in comparing that to what Boxhead implied is beyond me. It probably comes from the same place that tells you free healthcare is free, and a higher minimum wage lowers poverty, lol.
There was a difference, howev
January 12, 2007 - 14:48 ET by Roger the ShrubberThere was a difference, however. Mrs. Bush's comment about Ms. Rice was: "Mrs. Bush: I agree. But it isn't easy to live here. Dr. (Condoleezza) Rice, who I think would be a really good candidate, is not interested. Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living, she's an only child. You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job."
Unless you are a blithering Hufftarded nutjob, you will be capable of perceiving that Mrs. Bush's comment was pertaining to a support system that a President needs around him/her, not a personal attack like what Ms. Boxer delivered.
Oh wait. You fit into the category mentioned above. Never mind.
And Senator Boxer was speakin
January 12, 2007 - 14:59 ET by crsheddAnd Senator Boxer was speaking of paying a personal price of the loss of a family member.
Gee, have we never had a single male as President? Grover Cleveland was elected as a bachelor. He served one term, sat out one term and then re-elected for one term.
I'm sure Condi has very close friends who would probably act as her support system. If you weren't such a 'blithering tard' you would notice both comments were personal attacks and be upset about them both.
Oh wait. You fit into the category mentioned above. Never mind.
shedd......and to think, you
January 12, 2007 - 15:04 ET by bigtimershedd...
...and to think, you actually taught other people's children...spooky.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Your logic is stretched beyon
January 12, 2007 - 15:12 ET by kathleenirishYour logic is stretched beyond the breaking point, Shedd. (It's Shedd's Spread! Claims to be just like butter but it isn't real at all, just like your tortured comparisons.) Give up defending the indefensible.
Grover Cleveland?! Yeah, that seals it. A fat white guy from last century. Very relevant. Real good one. Makes me laugh, though.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
kathleen,I think shedd here i
January 12, 2007 - 15:18 ET by Dave Rkathleen,
I think shedd here is on the verge of replacing little ding-a-ling as our resident pud-knocker. :-^)
What a idiot. Cleveland got m
January 12, 2007 - 15:15 ET by Roger the ShrubberWhat a idiot. Cleveland got married while in office, had 8 brothers and sisters, had 3 children (maybe 4) while in office, and had an illegimate child while in office (with a woman named Maria Crofts Halpin) before marrying his 21-yo wife. I would consider that a rather extensive support system.
Nice try, Sparky. Come back when you can pull something bigger out of your ass, besides your head.
Now, I am more than willing to take you to the woodshed all day long, so keep it coming. Or, you can man-up, call it a day, and come back another day.
Ya know...
January 12, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasYa know...when crshedd pulled his head from his a$$ I swear I could have heard the pop right here on the coast.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Wow! That is so witty I'm at
January 12, 2007 - 15:41 ET by crsheddWow! That is so witty I'm at a loss for words.
Now I understand. Don't try to have a debate, just make witty comments.
Oh, and always make fun of someone's name. That always puts them in their place.
I realize this crshedd
January 12, 2007 - 15:48 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI don't believe I am alone in understanding that you are indeed at a loss for words. Any other liberalsexual whining or is this enough to fill your diaper?
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
Sparky,You have been taken to
January 12, 2007 - 20:36 ET by Roger the ShrubberSparky,
You have been taken to the woodshed here today, slammed big time, exposed as a loser who does not what the hell he is talking about. You should have let it go and moved on. But nooooooo, you are too stoopid to do that.
You lost the debate. You used "faulty intelligence". Let it go. Let it go.
You guys convinced me. Condi
January 12, 2007 - 15:28 ET by crsheddYou guys convinced me. Condi can NEVER be President.
Strange how conservatives ALWAYS find an excuse for some other conservative to make dumb statements. It's alright for conservatives to make stupid statements, but, don't let progressives get away with it.
No wonder our political system is so polarized.
Boxer and LBush both made stupid statements. But, LBush is on 'your side' so she is excused, even overlooked.
How does a libaral remember
January 12, 2007 - 16:19 ET by Andrew H.How does a liberal remember the lies they have to maintain to sound like they're telling the truth? How does one do that and keep everything straight?
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
AOH,Conservatives wouldn't kn
January 12, 2007 - 18:12 ET by bigtimerAOH,
Conservatives wouldn't know, because they never have to worry about such a conundrum.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Yep.Still in the ass.
January 12, 2007 - 17:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberYep.
Still in the ass.
I still don't know WTF a "progressive" is
January 12, 2007 - 18:04 ET by Six String SpiffCould you liberals please just admit you are LIBERAL and not "progresssive".. good effing grief.. Ya can't even admit to yOURSELF that you are liberal. Bunch of wussies. You people are good at making up your own definitions of things. Re-deploy? Progressive? Moderate? Bathroom tissue? Handy Capable? Could you retards please do something constructive or PROGRESSIVE for this country? damn... You guys grow dumber each day.
Not all Muslims are Terrorists. However, all the Terrorists have been Muslim.
Pick me Spaceman, pick me... I know what 'Progressive' means.
January 12, 2007 - 18:15 ET by acaiguanaPick me Spaceman, pick me... I know what 'Progressive' means.
A 'Progressive' is a person who incrementally and patiently chips away at any social value they believe and feel is mean spirited and restrictive to behaviors that rational and normal people across the US and even throughout the world would giggle at if seen on any street corner. They are always smug and 'above' petty human base revulsion at random acts of violence against their country; they always sniff at any principal that gets in their hedonistic pursuit of their concept of happiness which can include but not be limited to:
1. Stomping all over property rights as in Condo associations and the arbitrary use of eminent domain.
2. Seeing no need to apply the Bill of Rights to accused criminals if the crime remotely looks like a social injustice which they alone reserve the right to define on the fly.
3. Taxing anyone to death except themselves, but will be willing themselves to pay some taxes if everyone else is taxed to oblivion.
4. Use the government at any level to impose their idea of proper behavior on anyone else, e.g. smoking, seat belts and doctor choice.
5. Love the idea that they are so much superior than anyone else, holding up their educations from self-defined elite schools, for example, as proof they are in the upper .0005 percent.
6. Will never tell you their real IQ.
7. Will never use a judgemental word and recoil in horror at the idea that someone will ever make a judgement about them.
And a host of other silly ideas.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Personal price? Since we have
January 12, 2007 - 15:47 ET by FastEdPersonal price? Since we have a volunteer military, how many in boxer's family have signed-up to serve? And, if you follow the logic of boxer, folks without children shouldn't have anything to do with child specific legislation, or those without military service shouldn't be allowed to comment on military action or policy. Her comments were, to say the least, anti-feminist, and we know that must have struck a nerve with the hilldebeast, so she better watch her back.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
No, Boxer was not talking about paying any kind of personal pric
January 12, 2007 - 16:16 ET by acaiguanaNo, Boxer was not talking about paying any kind of personal price.
Boxer was taking advantage of the Senate Hearing to hide behind her podium and slam a person with whom she has no equal standing other than her political office.
Boxer is not nearly as smart nor as articulate as Dr. Rice.
Dr. Rice is not nearly as shallow or rude as Boxer so she was stuck smiling and waiting for the storm and stupidity to pass
Boxer is a coward. No other way to say it.
End of show? Boxer would never even come close to consideration for any of the jobs held by Dr. Rice. Provost of Stanford University, National Security Advisor, Secretary of State.
And you with the typical Liberal equivalence Liberals bring to any discussion try to equate anything the Boxer idiot has to say as somehow caring for the soldiers in Iraq?
HaHaHa
Liberals don't give a whit for the soldiers in Iraq. Liberals only care about power being concentrated in their hands so they can redistribute the wealth (and get paid handsomely for doing so in government and NGO jobs) and tell everyone else in their facist 'I know what's best better than you," condescending and elite fake social engineering smug manner.
Liberals make me ill.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Stupidity!
January 12, 2007 - 17:15 ET by Sonny LykosActually, the reason Boxer's comment was incredibly stupid is because the "price" is paid by the families because of the soldiers decisions to "volunteer" for service. So the price that's paid is created by their own children who enlisted.
Read Your History
January 12, 2007 - 18:14 ET by UnsaneYou taught children and don't know that James Buchanan is the ONLY bachelor president we have had (Cleveland married in office; when he lost to Benjamin Harrison, his new bride reportedly told the White House staff to take care of the place because "we'll be back in four years". They were.)?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I suspect it's a lie... and
January 12, 2007 - 16:05 ET by Andrew H.I suspect it's a lie... and even if it were true, it's off topic and repeating what the woman said to you isn't the same as looney boxer delivering one of her hateful rants and making the suggestion that Condi shouldn't be making decisions because she has no family in Iraq... like liberals do, they project their own callous disregard and their own feelings about things on to someone else--in this case, the best Secretary of State this nation has seen. The libs have the ineffective, give it all away to the North Koreans foolish and oh, so PC, Allbright to savor. The same nothing that stood on the lawn of the Whitehouse and assured the American public bill clinton was not lying.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
The MSM will tie itself in kn
January 12, 2007 - 15:35 ET by daveinbocaThe MSM will tie itself in knots trying to parse the anti-feminist remarks of robo-biyotch Boxer into any kind of intelligibility. Boxer is an hysteric, suitable perhaps for her whack-job constituents in Californicatia, but simply punching above her featherweight level as a national spokesperson.
You can bet Diane Sawyer called Boxer "congresswoman" knowing that for the illuminati, that would reverberate as being damned by faint praise.
Can you imagine the hysterics on The View were this said of a Democratic female---aka swampwoman Reno---during the halcyon bliss of the otiose Clinton era?
If you want to read "Boy" Dana at the Washington Post in his obsequious cup-bearer mode, strong stomachs are needed.
Watch the MSM take off on Tony Snow's remarks as offensive, trying to buffalo Boxer's biyotch-persona off center stage.