Is it not outrageous that Senator Barbara Boxer (Dem, Cal) verbally attacked Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for not having children as Rice appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday to discuss the Administrations position on Bush's Iraq military "surge" plans? Is this an acceptable criticism of a political official? Is the fact that an official might not have children reason to doubt their capacity for policy making or ability to advise an administration?
Is this the Democrat's new era of niceness, their less rancorous way of governing?
I was shocked to see this intemperate verbal assault by Boxer in the New York Post, but I became curious to see how other MSM sources treated the outrageous comments of the unbalanced Boxer. So, I did a little search of the reactions of the press.
(Full excerpts of the sections in each story that detailed Boxer's outrageous behavior follows)
- CBS News- *AP report (Lawmakers Grill Rice Over the Iraq War )
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., noted Rice has no children of her own to lose overseas. "Who pays the price?" Boxer repeatedly demanded. "You're not going to pay a particular price," she told Rice, because the secretary has no "immediate family" at risk.
- Miami Herald- **AP report (Congress treats Gates with kid gloves)
But the gloves came off for Rice.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., noted Rice has no children to lose overseas. "Who pays the price?" she repeatedly demanded. "You're not going to pay a particular price," she told Rice, because the secretary has no "immediate family" at risk.
I said "full excerpts" as if there would be a lot of stories about Boxer's attack, didn't I? In fact, few of the dozens of stories of Rice's appearance before the committee even mentioned Boxer's foolish attack.
As you can see, only the New York Post seemed too interested in the outrageous Boxer. The rest of our "News" sources barely mentioned it and it seems that no original writing was spent on the issue with every major news source just aping the AP's two subdued accounts.
As contrasted with the above AP reports, here is how the Post started off their report on the exchange:
WASHINGTON - Condoleezza Rice came under a shocking Democratic attack yesterday - as a childless woman who can’t understand the sacrifices made by families of U.S. troops in Iraq. In a bitter personal assault on the secretary of state during her appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, anti-war Sen. Barbara Boxer fumed that Rice didn't com prehend the "price" of the war.
Only the Post, so far, seems willing to highlight Boxer's unsuitable comportment as a Senator.
It was also curious to me that most of these stories about Rice being "grilled" before the Senate committee -- even the ones that did not mention Boxer -- also went on to describe how well received Defense Secretary Robert Gates was as if to assure the reader that Rice's mistreatment was some how "balanced" by Gates' easy day on the Hill.
Still, it is amazing how Boxer has basically gotten a pass by the MSM for her boorish, uncivilized, and completely illogical attack on Secretary Rice's childlessness.
This must be just another example of how the Democrats are going to be more bi-partisan and less rancorous and how the MSM is going to help them achieve that... or, rather, how they aren't and how the MSM is going to help cover it up for them?
Sadly, the American public is ill served by the MSM, once again.
*This same AP report showed up in several sources. For instance CBS News, The Guardian Unlimited and the Kansas City Star, among others, used this AP report.
**This same AP report showed up in several sources. For instance, the San Francisco Chronicle, Houston Chronicle, and the Guardian Unlimited, among others, all used this report.
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Harassing Secretary Rice beca
January 12, 2007 - 06:08 ET by BDHarassing Secretary Rice because she has no children in the fight is ludicrous.
I dare say that Barbara Boxer has no children to lose overseas either as I have not heard of her children having enlisted.
I must note that our current military society is highly conservative and is recruited from a largely conservative base. When this is taken into consideration, one must ask what LIBERALS like Boxer, Reid, Peolosi etc stand to lose in the current GWOT?
...it ain't me, it ain't me..
January 12, 2007 - 12:18 ET by TruthMonger...it ain't me, it ain't me...I ain't no "Senator Boxer's son : ) "
Kinda catchy...! Could be a good song maybe...
Boxer and Pelosi are very bad
January 13, 2007 - 04:01 ET by Andrew H.Boxer and Pelosi are very bad jokes in trusted elected postions for life apparently--every good thing this country has mostly stood for in the past and can still stand for, they oppose. May God help us all.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Well then, if Barbara Box
January 12, 2007 - 06:20 ET by motherbeltWell then, if Barbara Boxer has no immediate family involved (her children are too old, her grandchildren too young), then she needs to shut up.
Oh, I forgot, she's a liberal Democrat. She's capable of feeling other people's pain without walking in their shoes, Secretary Rice, a Republican, obviously isn't.
BD, I definitely agree with y
January 12, 2007 - 06:28 ET by DingoBD, I definitely agree with you. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Where does she get off attacking Rice for not having children, let alone children in Iraq, when she has no children in Iraq either. It's like Kennedy calling someone else a drunk. Pot meet kettle.
I just know that the media will not cover this for what it is, an attack on a political official for not having children. I don't have children, does this somehow make me understand the war in Iraq any less. If it were a Republican saying this the press would be beating the story to death right now.
Yet another example of the left-wing media covering for their side.
By the way, this is my first post and I am glad to be able to express myself among like-minded individuals.
Vote Democrat, it's easier than working
I concur with you reference t
January 12, 2007 - 06:39 ET by BDI concur with you reference the media's lack of desire to cover this issue.
For instance, when was the last time a reporter who has listened to Charlie Rangel moan about the fact that the military is "Not a representative sample of the US population" or some such rot and his desire to reinstate a draft ask him when the last time he encouraged a liberal STAFFER on his campaign to join the military?
It's we evil conservatives wh
January 12, 2007 - 12:21 ET by TruthMongerIt's we evil conservatives who do the vicious attacks, man...
Liberals "fight the power : ) !"
Get your head on ass-backwards, people...!
Dingo Welcome to NewsBusters
January 12, 2007 - 07:00 ET by Warner Todd HustonDingo
Welcome to NewsBusters. I hope to see you comment often.
I also hope you let others know of this site.
I'll add my "welcome&quo
January 12, 2007 - 07:18 ET by Indiana JoeI'll add my "welcome" to Warner's, Dingo. Having a "wild dog" around may come in handy for some of our "troll infestations." ... ;^)
Enjoy!
Regards,
IJ
That a very good point BD.
January 12, 2007 - 07:32 ET by USA4freedomThat a very good point BD. I would love to see a pole, on the political leanings of the families of the military. The left hates the military and I would think that the children of that love fest would never go into military service. We conservatives support the war (and our troops).. with our most precious commodity the lives of our troops. So to attack Rice for not having any kids that would be in danger they forget one small detail – IT’S A ALL VOLUNTEER ARMY… I still think that would be a great pole for someone to make (hint- hint). I cant believe the hatefulness of the compassionate party. A party that has no shame.
Welcome to NB’s Dingo. This is better then yelling at the TV- well that is what my wife tells me…
America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower
The most recent poll I saw th
January 12, 2007 - 13:55 ET by BDThe most recent poll I saw that coverd this question indicated that the deographic that the military comprises and is heavily drawn from is overwhelmingly conservative.
in Kathleen Roth Douquet and Frank Sheaters book AWOL, the reach similar conclusions to mine and even pose it as a concern for the liberal left in america as losing its credibility on these issues by abandoning the field. While I disagree with their solutions, I cannot disagree with their conclusions.
Thanks IJ for the picture tha
January 12, 2007 - 07:34 ET by USA4freedomThanks IJ for the picture that is in my head now, a wild dog tearing apart a troll…lol, it should go good with my morning coffee..
America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower
Welcome to NewsBusters, Dingo
January 12, 2007 - 09:44 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveWelcome to NewsBusters, Dingo! Nice to have you around, just don't eat my baby!
Gun Safety Tip #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. (www.imao.us)
Boxer slur on Rice's lifestyle is typically Liberal.
January 12, 2007 - 06:56 ET by acaiguanaBoxer slur on Rice's lifestyle is typically Liberal.
They just can't help themselves. You can bet talk radio will highlight this and possibly the controversey will then come up in the shows.
I said it was going to be a fun year. Democrats and Liberals are into the politics of personal destruction and slander to further their quest to consolidte power in the US in the hands of a few elites. This is another progressive step in their practice of tyranny over the minds of free men and women.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "Which city is next?"
Welcome to the world of femin
January 12, 2007 - 06:59 ET by Tony SWelcome to the world of feminist "arguments."
As anyone who has ever been on a college campus can tell you, feminists do not argue logically, point-by-point. They just insult you personally. So, for example, a cogent point against sexual harrassment laws will elicit a comment along the lines of "You must not have a girlfriend" or "You must have a small ****."
Feminists sought to make the personal political, and in this light Senator Boxer's comments make sense, as insensitive as they are.
I'm looking for that article where some Senator/Rep ...
January 12, 2007 - 07:34 ET by acaiguanaI'm looking for that article where some Senator/Rep called Boxer or Pelosi on their Environmental Law that set up the firefighters to be killed a few years ago in California. It went something like this:
Boxer or Pelosi on floor of chamber: "I want to comment on the loss of the lives of our firefighters in California."
Senator/Rep on floor: "Why? You killed them."
This was during one of the fire seasons in S. California after a number of guys were caught in one of the canyons and the underbrush was so thick they could not get out and the fuel was feeding the fire. The underbrush was thick because of the law sponsored by one of these idiots that kept the fire supression program from clearing it.
I wish I could find that because I would cite it often and early.
That is just another example of how their ignorance and stupidity causes real lives to be lost.
Now, to your comment.
I think Mike Adams writes admirably about the college insanity. He teaches at one of the 'triangle' schools I believe. I have close ties with several Universities (they study the effects of breathing on brains) and I am aware of the close minded so-called centers of philo (love) sophy (knowledge).
Ah well.
It is going to be a fun year.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Boxer does not really know what side of the fence she wants on
January 12, 2007 - 07:16 ET byIt appears Senator Boxer does not really know what side of the fence she wants to be on as a mother.Please don't get me wrong, I am no fan of Condoleezza Rice, however, I am am no fan of Senator Boxer either. And Boxer is the one in the wrong here. So, I will address her behavior.Senator Boxer seems to pick and choose what she wants to be 'maternal' over, considering she is pro embryonic stem cell research. Embryonic stem cell research calls for the creating of life, to take a life. It would not matter to me, if it were the only place to find stem cells, but in fact, it is not the only place, it is not even the best.My daughter, Jessica, who is a third year biochemistry major, first alerted me to that which is supported by The March of Dimes; and that is that umbilical cord stem cells from live births are far more usable than embryonic stem cells, more greatly available and no one has to die.So why does Senator Boxer speak up for the lives of those who lay down their life for their country in a manner that offends their heroic efforts, but advance the taking of innocent life who has no say in their demise? ........ Debra... of: ... www.InformingChristians.com
What do you have against Rice
January 12, 2007 - 08:14 ET by rimskyWhat do you have against Rice?
Rice made the following state
January 12, 2007 - 09:31 ET byRice made the following statement, as an official statement, which she had no right making. She said, "America will not tolerate the desecration of the Koran." She also referred to a mother of one half of a homosexual 'union' as the other half's, "mother in-law," at a swearing in.
That's it? Debra, the answer is "42".
January 12, 2007 - 09:35 ET by acaiguanaThat's it? Debra, the answer is "42".
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
That is all there needs to be
January 12, 2007 - 23:15 ET byThat is all there needs to be. This is America and our government does not rule over us as a dictatorship. We have freedoms that prevent our government from ruling over us in a manner that Rice was implying. If we wish to desecrate the Koran, we can. ---As for the other comment Rice made: The US government does not allow homosexual marriage. Rice was representing our nation when the man was sworn in. She had no right to give recognition to something that is illegal in our nation as a whole.
You know, I may not have any
January 12, 2007 - 11:18 ET by UnsaneYou know, I may not have any room for religion in my life, but you will never see me desecrating Bibles, Missals, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Torah, etc. Why? Because I have this silly thing called respect.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
unsane and respect?
January 12, 2007 - 12:28 ET by tumbler_2007You could've fooled me.
Racist tumbler, lecturing me on respect
January 12, 2007 - 12:32 ET by UnsaneThat, from a proven, overt racist? I expect better from you. At least I do not use racial slurs ANYWHERE (and then make whiny excuses by saying "everyone said that when I was younger!!!").
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
come on, unsane
January 12, 2007 - 12:44 ET by tumbler_2007You aren't called a racist for using a single word, "jap". You're stretching it somewhat.
YOU'RE the one who openly hates, defames, denigrates, and can't even look at-- a Mexican.
You know this is so. And just because I've been sympathetic to the poorest ones, you tell the world (this is the WWW,) that I'm IN FAVOR of illegal immigration! A complete lie! What's more, I definitely like & respect the Japanese. It's no lie.
This is no remote appearance of respect for the other person, an AMERICAN. --IT'S HATRED. And when you're confronted for it, you scream Troll! That Is hypocrisy! Own up to your lies-- ! ! !
Come on, tumbler!
January 12, 2007 - 12:52 ET by UnsaneI am still waiting for proof of this open hatred, defaming, and denigration of Mexicans of which you speak. I can provide proof that you hate Asians, specifically the Japanese. I think while I wait, I'll order another coffee here at a Starbucks found in a major city in the United States which is roughly 55% Hispanic that I represent every chance I can get (meaning I can look at plenty just by looking around me, no problem).
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
The reason you can make that
January 12, 2007 - 23:20 ET byThe reason you can make that claim is because, as you say, you [do] "not have any room for religion in [your] life." So, what is it to you to speak against any religion? It is nothing, because you have no passion for any belief system. But, on the contrary, true Christians have a passion for the things of the Lord. ---True Christians, who are practicing their true faith in Christ, will speak out against that which is not of the Lord. We are called to by God in His Holy Word. It is the practice of our faith to expose evil works of darkness. ---I have to wonder, do you draw the line with true Christianity in your 'respect' for all religions? If so, then you can no longer make such a statement. ---You see, I never say that I 'respect' all religions, because as a true Christian, I simply cannot. It is like trying to mix water and oil. It simply cannot be done.
You know, some well-meaning N
January 13, 2007 - 02:00 ET by UnsaneYou know, some well-meaning NBers have inquired from time to time as to why I have come to the religious conclusions that I have. I think I will direct them to your comment.
My other reasons are deeply personal (reinforced by key events over the past decade) and beyond your ability to comprehend so I won't bother to share those with you.
I suspect you are asking if I somehow wish to attack Christianity. Total utter nonsense. My mother is a Catholic and my father hails from a long line of Baptist preachers. I am not offended by public displays of Christianity like some whacked-out Leftists out there. Nor do I want to ban religion. Just because I simply don't get religion does not mean I want Christianity destroyed. I suspect that many who have read my posts have figured that out already. Basically, when it comes to religion, I want to live without faith and be left the f*!k alone as this is a free country. You should learn to accept that as well.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
From Unsane I am not offen
January 13, 2007 - 02:04 ET by Warner Todd HustonFrom Unsane
I would hope this explicit exclamation would satisfy critics on this count.
It does for me.
Hi Todd.. Very good article.
January 13, 2007 - 10:00 ET byHi Todd.. Very good article. But, I am a bit confused as to what your comment here means. Can you clarify?
With all due respect, Warner:
January 13, 2007 - 20:55 ET by tumbler_2007You said: "I would hope this explicit exclamation would satisfy critics on this count.
It does for me."
You won't add much credence to what's been false since God banished Adam and Eve from Paradise. We'd like an impartial testimonial now. And from wisdom, not conceit.
No, Unsane, actually I did no
January 13, 2007 - 09:52 ET byNo, Unsane, actually I did not even come close to asking you if you were going to "attack Christianity." I asked you if you draw the line with 'respect' towards true Christianity. And I have no idea if your parents are true Christians. ---There is a huge difference between attack and respect. A person can speak against something, without necessarily 'attacking' it. ---I truly enjoyed your first paragraph in that post. It is always most interesting to watch a full grown adult blame others for their lack of faith. There is one reason and one reason only, that you do not believe on Christ for salvation. And that reason is sin in your life, which you are not willing to part with. ----- Strumming my pain with his fingers
Singing my life with his words
Killing me softly with his song
Killing me softly with his song
Telling my whole life with his words
Killing me softly with his song
Try as you may to deny it to
January 13, 2007 - 09:55 ET byTry as you may to deny it to the crowd. You and I both know the truth. Yes, someone knows.
The truth versus arrogance
January 13, 2007 - 14:05 ET by UnsaneAllow me to correct you. I know and revel in the truth; YOU don't know one damned thing about me and instead wallow in extreme arrogance.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
John 3:19 - And this is the c
January 13, 2007 - 20:26 ET byMore quoting
January 13, 2007 - 20:34 ET by UnsaneIn Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure-dome decree; where Alph, the sacred river ran through caverns measureless to man down to a sunless sea...
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Kubla Khan"
What's your point? That you know everything about me because you mastered the Book of John? That you are somehow better than me because you can quote the Book of John blindfolded?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Affirmation
January 13, 2007 - 14:04 ET by UnsaneNice to see you have not a judgmental bone in your body.
Thank you for affirming why I am an atheist yet again!
(As I said, I have many more reasons than this; from the language of your posts they are far beyond your ability to understand or comprehend, so why should I bother telling you?)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
1 Corinthians 2:7- But we spe
January 13, 2007 - 20:23 ET byGalatians 4:16 - Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Quoting
January 13, 2007 - 20:31 ET by UnsaneIt's nice to see you can quote. Wanna read mine?
"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice; you can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill, I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose freewill". - Prof. Neil Peart, Canadian poet and percussionist (1953- ).
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
dear debra j
January 13, 2007 - 20:43 ET by tumbler_2007After a while you'll see. An argument with somebody who identifies himself as unsane is tantamount to opposing Niagara Falls on its way down to the rocks. With your eyelashes!
Unsane balks at a religous confrontation not because he's enlightened and on course. He's in darkness and off course. And you, the lighthouse --make him MORE eager for hatred instead of love, war instead of peace. Evil instead of good. Unsane was named by a godfather we know so well. His name is PRIDE. Goes before a fall. Niagara Falls.
Tumbler is 100% PERFECT because he is CHRISTIAN
January 13, 2007 - 22:13 ET by UnsaneI would rather be proud than a self-righteous showoff, screaming "LOOK AT ME!!! I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! I AM THEREFORE BETTER THAN EVERYONE AROUND ME!!! LOOK AT ME!!! I AM A CHRISTIAN!!! I AM ABOVE EVERYONE ON EARTH BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN!!!!!!"
Again, thank you for further reinforcing my atheism.
(I also note you have an obsession with Niagara Falls. I've been there an it is quite a sight, but does everything you type have to have a reference to Niagara Falls? Sheesh...)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Dear uns, I hope you don't object?
January 14, 2007 - 13:16 ET by tumbler_2007Yeah; I dig Niagara falls for a nice tight analogy. You and others like you here--you talk like Niagara, force your ideas like a cascade, refuse to understand anything contrary to your ponderous authority and you can't be contradicted because-- as the nincompoop here is saying-- you get pissed off. I call that an unstoppable current of BS, going over the falls, making their own big splash.
If the shoe didn't FIT you, you would wouldn't be asked to wear it (a mixed metaphor, hope you don't object.) AND, just so it's on the record, unsane one;
I'm a Christian. Not better than anybody since I confess being a sinner. You assign me the role of hypocrite, but actually I confess I'm in need of salvation. Something you seem to deny. Will tumbler OBJECT to your foolishness? No, I just pray for people like you. You were given free will by our Creator.
One added text for your perusal: "Thus says the Lord; I place before you Life and Death. Choose, therefore Life."
Addressing your preaching
January 14, 2007 - 14:22 ET by UnsaneNegative. If I accept there is a God, I instantly cough up the existence of freewill.
You should do yourself a favor and worry more about praying for yourself than worrying about someone for whom prayer is looked upon with total indifference. What "salvation" do I need, and from whom? Instead of worrying about such abstractions, I tend to worry about real world concerns that are palpable.
On the contrary, you say your better than everyone by your constant, unsolicited preaching. Though I an perfectly fine with everyone's views on the world, I do get annoyed very quickly with that sort of behavior. What, you're a better person because you occasionally go to church and can quote the Bible? Because you're SAVED? Wow. And to think I thought the way to be a better person is to shut my trap and work everyday to be a better person.
Finally, about your Niagara Falls whine: sounds like to me you cannot deal with my efforts to try and constantly improve my writing. I can take a conversational tone on here but that is something I intend to avoid. If you wish to continually whine about how many words people use to write something, I refer you to the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson could have opened it with "We don't like the King. He is a very bad man. We are leaving. This is why." Instead, he opens it with "When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have connected it with another..." Now, you may not have the patience to appreciate that language, but that is a pity. I prefer the latter over the former, far and away.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Hey Uns,You're really progres
January 14, 2007 - 14:46 ET by BlondeHey Uns,
You're really progressing with your writing style, guy.
Now if we can just focus on posters who are worth the time.....hmmmm.
As for the "preaching" going on around here, I've been tempted on numerous occasions to throw in my two cents.
Which is....take it elsewhere. It's totally inappropriate here. While I never mind references to one's belief system, to argue, or put other's down for what is certainly a deeply held personal persuasion, is both ignorant and uncouth.
(sigh) It would be nice, but
January 14, 2007 - 14:56 ET by Unsane(sigh) It would be nice, but just because I stated I respect what people believe regardless, Debra (holier-than-thou) had to chime in with her two cents, and then tumbler (again, holier-than-thou) just had to turn it into a religious argument. I hate that. I would prefer to avoid the subject but those two insisted on discussing it.
Besides, don't people on here agree that it is fun when some whacked out Leftist begins preaching to me in order to justify their socialist ideology, and I react by throwing it back in their faces. Then, they have no clue what to do with themselves, because Unsane is doing what Unsane does best: being the exception to the rule.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Unsane,Well...I wish the holi
January 14, 2007 - 15:04 ET by BlondeUnsane,
Well...I wish the holier-than-thou types would just take their rant elsewhere.
I don't know about "fun"....but watching the beatdown and subsequent squirming of the socialist/lib set is always interesting.
TUMBLER....You sure have a kn
January 13, 2007 - 22:18 ET by Clear thinkerTUMBLER....
You sure have a knack for pissing people off!
Hey that's a Rush song!
January 13, 2007 - 20:59 ET by terrigHi Unsane, I loved that song by "Rush". Religious bigots bug me to death! I mean what's wrong with everyone being able to have their own beliefs or not have any? As long as one is a good person, isn't that what's most important? I have my own but don't try to force them down everyone's throat or tell them what a holy roller I am and then call people names and make fun of them if their child is disabled. Anyway, I have lots of friends who are in your side of the camp. They're good people and would give the shirt of their back if it was needed. I know you pay no attention to these bible thumping trolls.
Evening terri,I don't know if
January 13, 2007 - 21:22 ET by bigtimerEvening terri,
I don't know if debra is a troll or not, I do know I respect what she is saying as much as what Unsane is saying. I have no dog in this fight, but I do love learning from all walks of life and each individuals views, especially when it comes to religion, we all have our own individual life stories where and why we end up with our own beliefs, whatever they may be.... is this country great or what?
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Hi Bigtimer,I agree that th
January 13, 2007 - 22:17 ET by terrigHi Bigtimer,
I agree that this is what makes this country so great. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. It's just I get aggravated when people try to sway others to their point of view with vile name calling or telling someone they will be going to hell.
I hope you're having a nice evening. Just got back from Mass (if you can believe it). Checked my computer and said I had a PM from another member so I decided to see what was going on.
terri,I agree with you...I wi
January 13, 2007 - 22:26 ET by bigtimerterri,
I agree with you...I wished I would not have said a word.
When it comes to the tumbster, that is another story, as we all know, I was referring to debra, I may have missed something, that is for sure...
Open mouth, insert foot.
Btw, I have nothing but the highest regard for Un, always have...always will.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
even I have friends, terri
January 13, 2007 - 21:22 ET by tumbler_2007Yeah, would ya believe it? I have many friends. But when my friends make light of my faith in God; or assume an air of superiority and condescension, they meet with opposition, not shmoozes. From me; (and also Debra) who would most certainly offer you and unsane the shirt off my back. I sincerely desire your eternal well-being and salvation. Mine isn't just a pep talk. Where does that place your elitist point of view as to the total certainty of our mortality? Would you as a believing Catholic welcome unsane's death and damnation tomorrow --unconcerned?
He doesn't bargain on dying soon. Nobody ever does. But a person of faith isn't unprepared, and unsane IS. --Let me intrude then on your sensibilty with this bit:
"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me, even if he dies shall live; and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die." John, 11 :25-6 . . .
Worry about yourself
January 13, 2007 - 22:14 ET by terrigI don't know if you have any friends who aren't as prejudiced as yourself against those who may or may not have a religious preference. You have showed yourself for the nasty type of church goer you are. You immediately stoop to name calling and have made fun of my child who you would just as soon be one who destroys those who have uno mas chromozone then yourself.
Please worry about your own salvation and let the other's worry about their own as well. I don't need "well meaning" people telling me I am going to hell because I am a Catholic or those "well meaning" Catholics who tell others they are going to go to hell because they choose not to believe. As I said, I believe it's much more important to live a good life then to pound your religion into people's heads and then continue to name call and such when you refuse to really read what people have to say and look for your own preceived bias.
Choosing Friends Tumbler
January 13, 2007 - 22:27 ET by acumen"From me; (and also Debra) who would most certainly offer you and unsane the shirt off my back."
Maybe your illegal friends can wear Debra's shirt on the deportation bus Tumbler. Be sure and enjoy the link on Debra's website entitled "Send the Illegals Back." If not interested in that topic, you might try the link on Debra's website entitled "Understanding Roman Catholicism" by a fallen away Catholic that "lovingly addresses" (of course it is all about the love) the supposed fallacies of the Catholic Church and why he is right and the Catholic Church is wrong. I'm sure the author has much more insight into Christianity than the 2000+ years of the Catholic Church. That is probably the reason the author encourages other Catholics to join him in abandoning their faith. Of course he might want to reread John 17, 23 - I in them and you in me, that they may be brought to perfection as one, that the world may know that you sent me, and that you loved them even as you loved me. Nothing like one Christian bashing another Christian to show the world what Christ's love is all about. Sad as it is to say, that type of hypocrisy might just be the main ingredient that turns off good folks such as Unsane about religion.
I'm sure Debra can resolve this obvious dissimulation on the next thread highlighting yet another media attack on Catholicism.....if we are fortunate the post might even highlight the anti-Catholicism linked too on Debra's websight.
Damnation
January 13, 2007 - 22:34 ET by UnsaneI agree I am damned. But not the way you think. Let me quote this for you from one of my very favorite poems from Finland
"Where have all the feelings gone? Why is it the deadliest sin, to love as I loved you? Now unblessed, homesick in time, soon to be free from care, from human pain. My tale is of a most bitter truth: time pays us but with earth, and dust, and a dark, silent grave." - Nightwish, "Bless The Child", from Century Child (2002)
And am I to understand you right when you make that "shirt off your back" comment that because I don't believe that somehow I am not charitable? I don't engage in charity now but I would be willing to bet I have done more for others in my short life than others. I rest comfortably in that knowledge; I needn't show anything to anyone. Those who know me can/will tell you if you were to meet them and rather than brag to the world about how much better I am than other people, I'll let those who know speak for me and let my actions on a daily basis speak for themselves.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Thanks, terrig. As I posted
January 13, 2007 - 22:23 ET by UnsaneThanks, terrig. As I posted originally (it's not that Debra can't understand, it is that she doesn't WANT to), I am not out to destroy organized religion. It doesn't bother me that people believe in God. Granted, I don't get it, but that doesn't mean I don't respect what people believe.
The essence of conservatism is that we are all individuals, and that we are free to choose our own paths. Many of us wish to have the guidance of religion, and that's OK. For reasons too lengthy, and in some cases too personal to bare here on this board, I have chosen my path. The only thing I ask is for people to respect that I believe as I believe and go from there. You will never see me mocking others for their beliefs. I leave that for the extremist whackos on the Left, who in reality don't want to ignore/destroy God but rather want God substituted with the Nanny State, with the President as perhaps a Pope and the Congress as the College of Cardinals.
Debra and tumbler can scold, mock, judge and ridicule me all day long and quote the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation all they want. It's not going to make a difference to me.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
unsane wasn't born that way.
January 13, 2007 - 23:42 ET by tumbler_2007Unsane became that way, IMO. And he thinks he's mocked simply because he takes himself too seriously. But scolded? No, holding your arguments up to the light isn't scolding. Ridiculed? Not for being an atheist. For being PROUD to be one. That's what's ridiculous to me. Anyway, we exchange ridicule. You do it with easy-going condescension.
"The essence of conservatism is that we are all individuals, and that we are free to choose our own paths." Not of conservatism, Dude. It's the essence of faith. Faith calls us to love and obey God freely. He's given us free will and won't coerce our love. You are free to refuse Him. I'm free to love Him. Conservatism doesn't make a difference. Liberals are equally free to choose any path they please. The fact they don't agree with us is superficial at best. They have only one aim: advantage over another group; the group called conservatives.
"Many of us wish to have the guidance of religion, and that's OK. For reasons too lengthy and in some cases too personal to bare here on this board, I have chosen my path. The only thing I ask is for people to respect that I believe as I believe and go from there. --It's the respect I have for your immortal soul which causes me to take you seriously. If it weren't for justice, my respect for you-- You'd be insignificant altogether. it wouldn't matter to me if you're in darkness. -- "You will never see me mocking others--" And that at least is a good characteristic; a merit very rarely seen in atheists.
Curious: do you just like to
January 14, 2007 - 00:01 ET by UnsaneCurious: do you just like to see yourself type?
If you TRULY respected my beliefs, you would close your trap about "I care about your immortal soul" business and move on with your concerns about your personal salvation (hat tip to terrig).
As for mocking: "why, unsane is just proud! That's unsane's problem! And it's not his fault, he wasn't born that way!" So, am I somehow deficient because I simply don't read a book (any book) and take everything it tells me at face value? What is so shocking about someone who sees the same stimuli you are presented with, who reacts by not being impressed? And in fact, in some instances, repulsed and disgusted?
terrig is right: maybe you are best served worrying about yourself. It's no different than a Leftist who wants to steal from me because "my neighbors aren't doing so well".
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???--unsane?
January 14, 2007 - 13:48 ET by tumbler_2007"What is so shocking about someone who sees the same stimuli you are presented with, who reacts by not being impressed? And in fact, in some instances, repulsed--"
I for one don't find you shocking. You and millions just like you are doing everything you can here on earth without offering any service to God out of mere indifference. He is the source of EVERY blessing you find here in this life, but you won't acknowledge Him. All you get out of life is that "stimuli" the one that excites amoebas in experiments. No wisdom, just what your senses appreciate or dislike. Animal life.
When your earthly life is finished, you want oblivion. Is this a deficiency in your outlook? You're damn dootin. You are much more than a worm or a fly. You are made in the actual image of God. Higher respect than that I could never offer you. You're like God Himself, an immortal soul. Despite the stimulus you received here you're sound asleep. Unsane for the time being, unable to believe. Is it shocking? No, but I see you without illusions. I HOPE you'll break out of your inertia, into spiritual life.
More for preacher tumbler
January 14, 2007 - 14:33 ET by UnsaneWhen my life is finished, do I want oblivion? No. But I have resigned myself to the fact that it is what is going to happen and that is the reality. Since I am a realist, I accept that and move on. Death remains "the undiscovered country from whose borne no traveler has ever returned" (Hamlet). There is no deficiency here, but it seems you want to be every bit the busybody that the Leftists are and stick your nose into how I believe and run interference, instead of worrying about your own damn self. I am much more than the worm or the fly, but only because I am self aware and acutely aware of my mortality, whereas the worm or the fly are not. You are right about one thing, though. I am unable to believe. I don't get it. I never have and never will.
You don't have to like it, you just have to accept it. When was the last time I came on here, telling people that the belief in God is a fairy tale? What's that? I never have? So why do you think you have the right to stick your nose into my business and tell me how wrong my beliefs are?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Unsane...
January 14, 2007 - 15:08 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasI am very familiar with what you are experiencing with the quite righteous attacks on your atheism. It is commonly taught by both evangelical ministers (as far right as King James Bible only nuts to weak sister Presbyterian USA and United Methodist types) and Catholics to treat agnostics and atheists with contempt upon the departure of any area of agreement. While they might be forced to be political bedmates, a faithful Catholic or evangelical is taught that because your soul is damned due to a lack of faith, you are a danger politically and socially (a most ignorant and shallow position with which I obviously do not agree) I am quite familiar with the ideology and methodology of the religious right because I am one of them.
Indeed I am a Christian, born again, saved, redeemed by Christ, Christ is my eternal advocate, he died for my sins and is the promise of eternal life, not myself...you get the point. However, simply because I am one of them does not mean I agree with the pop-theology, pop-polity, pop-psychology, or pop-philosophy that has infected the religious right for years. They are taught by their leaders to approach social and political issues with a certain crusadership mentality, one that promotes a self-righteous position because their position is more holy and righteous...seeing that it stems from a biblical morality (in their eyes at least).
I want to tell you something, these people might be sincere and here and there, maybe never maybe often regarding positions on topics, in the end they are jackasses and blots, fools who imagine that the Savior that bought them somehow is the man or woman they see in the mirror.
These people crave, whether they admit it or not, a theocracy of some sort. One that a fool like Pat Robertson would institute if he could and idiot Hannity would cheer on. The truth is many of these people though, are just sheep having been hearded by power brokers named James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Ted "the lying bastard" Haggard, Robertson, and the list goes on. Men who are empty of critical thinking and sound theology. They teach a form of crusadership that is anti-Christ and anti-bible. And though I don't agree with your atheism, in this case and in this context it appears your atheism really has nothing to do with anything other than a vehicle for self-righteous bags to blow upon. Unforuntatley tumbler has fallen prey to the lust of self-righteous condemnation as has narcissist debrajsmith who seems quite infatuated with her own image at her website of social reconfiguration (heh).
But this is what they are taught by the many theologically empty ministers who preach that the imposition by a Christian upon another is always justified because it is done so in the name of God, a name they seem to be taught they are at license to stamp on any and every endeavor.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
The heart of the matter
January 14, 2007 - 15:22 ET by UnsaneI think the biggest problem is that atheism is associated with some of the most gruesome, hideous ideologies the world has seen (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot) and as such, if I don't believe, why, I have to be just like them! Which is hardly the case if anyone bothers to look at how I believe up close.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Unsane, you are quite clear to me...
January 14, 2007 - 15:38 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasYou are quite clear to me. Every system of thought, unless its tenets specifically or clearly implicitly teach some form of destructive behavior toward others can be misused and misapplied. Atheism is the belief that there is no such thing as a deity, in fact. It might be furthered concluded then that from this fundamental belief that the only reality is the material and there is no supernatural. As well humanistic and secular concerns aren't molded by the influence of theism or religion.
The problem is that what you point out, some conclude that only chaos social or moral chaos can result from such an atheistic philosophy. While Stalin may have misapplied and wrongly concluded from an atheistic position that there is a lesser moral imperative toward his fellow man the same can be said historically about spectacular theistic personalities in history who wrongly concluded that they were morally superior in their cause and justified in their immorality and inhumanity to man because they had a divine imperative and divine moral cause.
The mistake by many Christians is that the plan of salvation for mankind via Christ was a response to man's spiritual need, not a comprehensive answer to social, political, emotional, and psychological disfunctions. Social structure and spiritual structure are often attempted to be forcibly combined by many Christians who are at that point completely anti-biblical. Government is for all people and all men to regulate each other as a nation and socially, not religiously or spiritually. Unfortunately, a great deal of theocratic doctrine is present in the body of believers today and poisons their political activities, not to mention is hurtful toward genuinely good leaders who may not hold to the religious tenets of Christians but understand principles of leadership, freedom and governing a nation but end up on the sidelines because he or she doesn't confess Christ or believe in God.
If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
I do not see that I did any o
January 14, 2007 - 11:56 ET byI do not see that I did any of that to you. But if you feel that way, I am sorry that my response to what I believed to have been a challenge from you, in your first comment to me--was upsetting to you. It was not known to me that you had prior issues on NBs. I simply went off of what you said to me. In the future I will over-look your comments.
Only do-gooders can upset me, secular or religious
January 14, 2007 - 14:37 ET by UnsaneNothing upset me - except for do-gooders that wear their compassion and religiousity on their sleeve in some attempt to score points and elevate themselves above everyone else.
By the way...here it is, Sunday, and you are posting on NB. Don't you have someplace you have to be instead?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Have you ever been in combat or know someone who was?
January 14, 2007 - 00:28 ET by terrigThis is a bit off topic since it refers to your website about having Chaplains in the military no matter what faith they are. My second cousin is a Catholic Priest Chaplain in the 101st Airborne and he sure had a lot of people to comfort in the field and once they arrived home. The chapliancy is more than just religion, they're there as a comfort and have been there since the infancy of our country. Funny, I am a Catholic but when I was in the sandbox there wasn't a Catholic chaplain around for more than a few Sundays. Yet, all of us (no matter what our faiths were) prayed with the Rabbi who was assigned to our unit. That's right a Rabbi who was also there to offer comfort to those who for whatever their own reasons chose not to believe. He never condescended to them nor has any Chaplain I have come across as a Soldier and the proud wife of a Soldier. Just my two cents as one who has been there. Yes, there are athiests in the fox hole but they don't take offense at a Chaplain being there to talk to, joke around with and have a good time with.
I respect that you believe di
January 14, 2007 - 11:49 ET byI respect that you believe differently than I do on this issue. However, my article that I wrote on this: http://www.debrajmsmith.com/chaplains.html ....truly is how I believe on the topic. I too, hate to go so far off topic on this NB's topic, so I will leave it as this.
Welcome aboard Dingo, I recen
January 12, 2007 - 07:40 ET by rightsideWelcome aboard Dingo, I recently joined the ranks of NB as well.
Typical red herring used by the dhimmicrats. One cannot comment on something unless they are directly involved. Someone used the analogies of "you cannot comment on a restaurant unless you're a chef", and "you can't have an opinion on a movie unless you are a writer/producer/director."
Does anyone else find it ironic, that with all the hoopla surrounding pelosi being "the country's mother", she will defend with her last breath, the right to abort ANY child for ANY reason?
When they called Pelosi the country's mother, I understood.
January 12, 2007 - 07:42 ET by acaiguanaWhen they called Pelosi the country's mother, I understood.
Exactly how that kid who wanted to divorce his/her parents felt when that happened a number of years ago. Until now it had been sorta funny to me.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Don't worry Sen. Boxer, I sen
January 12, 2007 - 07:45 ET by Senior ChiefDon't worry Sen. Boxer, I senior Chief, United States Navy will not retire yet from active service to fight side by side with my childless comrades-in-arms and for all Americans, especially for those unable to have children or maybe for whatever reason just can't afford to have an "immediate family" at this time! By the way, I will also defend your right to be stup#d, obnox#ous, arrog#nt and f#lthy, because you are an American. Hmmn, are you really an American?
Reading through the article, it never mentioned what the cut-and-run defeatocrats plan was...
cut and run...America is best
January 12, 2007 - 08:13 ET by USA4freedomcut and run...
America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower
Sec. Rice
January 12, 2007 - 08:14 ET by joe3According to Ms. Boxer, I guess this means that every woman who is childless because she had an abortion(s) is excluded from this debate also.
""Madam Secretary,
January 12, 2007 - 08:16 ET by Gothampc""Madam Secretary, please," she said. "I know you feel terrible about it. That's not the point. I was making the case as to who pays the price for your decisions."
How politically correct of Boxer to tell Condi how she (Condi) should feel. The Dems need to stop all the touchy-feely crap and defeat terrorism. We can do touchy-feely when we are safe.
I am in Iraq and funny I don'
January 12, 2007 - 08:18 ET by DingoI am in Iraq and funny I don't see the Senator or her children here. I will keep looking for them and keep you all informed of my progress.
Vote Democrat, it's easier than working
I'm tired of the emoting! B
January 12, 2007 - 08:19 ET by rimskyI'm tired of the emoting! Bottom line here is that Boxer doesn't have anything really intelligent to say, so she just attacks, using an emotional slant that has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. How pitiful!
Childless
January 12, 2007 - 08:19 ET by Mr_PriestApparently since my wife and I can't have children we can't love anyone. Of course being conservative we are evil and unfeeling. I always knew that there was something wrong with us, now I know what it is. In that same light did the Boxer lady ever serve in the Military? Would that make her a Chicken Hawk as the libs like to throw the term around?
Just a note. Guys, can you imagine Boxer in the AM?
January 12, 2007 - 08:24 ET by acaiguanaJust a note. Guys, can you imagine Boxer in the AM?
Look at the photo when you read this:
"And pick up your underwear. What do you think I am, your maid.
"And another thing...."
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
I just think that Sen. Boxer
January 12, 2007 - 08:38 ET by UnsaneI just think that Sen. Boxer has to find SOMETHING to gripe about, as she cannot hold an intellectual candle to Dr. Rice. What a stupid, meaningless point of contention.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I am only guessing, but proba
January 12, 2007 - 08:40 ET by msh1973I am only guessing, but probably the reason Sec. Rice has not had children is because she has never gotten married. I know, that is quite concept for these people. Give me a break. If a conservative had made that statement about a liberal the msm would be all over that.
Good point msh1973. She's Black.
January 12, 2007 - 08:47 ET by acaiguanaGood point msh1973. She's Black. Really, not like Osama (er..Obama) and she doesn't even have children out of wedlock. White women also have children out of wedlock, so I'm not being racist here, the Democrat Progressives are being racist here.
Dr. Rice is successful, bright, Black and...
A Republican.
Throw an Oreo cookie anyone?
How unPC of her!
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Well, Boxer's comments are no
January 12, 2007 - 09:04 ET by Ruths husband BenWell, Boxer's comments are no big story. Libs always say, "Well if you are not willing to go over there, or have children over there, then you (conservative) should not make policy, have an opinion, etc." But when I say, okay, let's let the men and women who are serving over there (and give Bush a 85% approval rating, by the way) make policy about Iraq they shut the #$%@ up.
The MSM refusal to acknowledge this exchange between Bowser, er I mean Boxer and Condi Rice only adds to the evidence of a Liberal Bias to the media. You have to remember that Bias comes from the Latin "bi", meaning two and "as" meaning Ass, they have two asses, one of which is perched on their neck in much the same way as a thinking person might have a cranium.
I wish Secretary Rice would run for President, she'd get my vote and give the Libs apoplexy.
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Constitutional Amendment
January 12, 2007 - 09:15 ET by JimboIf you really think about it, what Boxer is suggesting is a Constitutional amendment regarding the qualifications to be President of the United States. According to her rational, since it is the President who is in charge of wielding the military, the President him/herself would need to be of fighting age and actually serve while commanding. Or, to be qualified to be President, you would not only need to have children, but to have children of appropriate age to join the military. I suppose the same qualifications would also be required of the Secretary of Defense, and any other administration position influencing military policy. A very interesting, delusional, and irrelevant point of view from the fine Senator.
Dr. Rice has twice the mental
January 12, 2007 - 09:13 ET by Andrew H.Dr. Rice has twice the mental capacity as Boxer, twice the charm, twice the looks, twice the sense and twice the education--the disgusting (has she been vile all her life or only since becoming a democratic senator?)Boxer has twice the income and twice the ugliness and nothing more.
Boxer is an emabarassment.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Welcome to the Left Coast, Andy.
January 12, 2007 - 09:21 ET by acaiguanaWelcome to the Left Coast, Andy.
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
This is the reverse of the Ci
January 12, 2007 - 09:24 ET by EdhenryThis is the reverse of the Cindy She-Hates-America-An. MSM= you can't be critical of Cindy, she lost a son in Iraq. Now Boxer is floating, you can't take Condi seriously, she doesn't have anyone in her family at risk. This is calculated by the dems
MSM will give this legs to discredit Condi, even if they do it backhandedly "today another Congressperson said Condi does not have any family at risk in the military" What's left at the end? The silly debate is forgotten, the masses will remember Condi doesn't have any family.
MSM=Democrat=Al Q=Anti-American
Once again, we have another e
January 12, 2007 - 09:21 ET by The Real TonyOnce again, we have another example of how lowly and despicable, how disgusting and pathetic liberals are. They are the wretched refuse that belongs in garbage dumps; let to fester and rot into their base elements before being absorbed into the earth much like fertilizer.
The fact that Barbara Boxer hasn't apologized speaks volumes about how despicable and loathsome liberals truly are.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
Am I the only one around here
January 12, 2007 - 09:29 ET by Dave RAm I the only one around here that finds the DimLibs new-found (once again) "concern for the children" to be wretchedly disgusting, given their current position on abortion?
When I see pictures of big name libs around smiling, adoring children like the ones that came out of Nancy Pelosi the other day, I just want to throw up.
They make a difference betw
January 12, 2007 - 09:36 ET by MightyMouthThey make a difference between "air breathing" children and "embryonic fluid" breathing children. You see, according to them, you aren't really a human, until you breath air. Though it seems rather hypocitical to me.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You aren't a chicken until you've been an egg.
January 12, 2007 - 09:40 ET by acaiguanaYou aren't a chicken until you've been an egg.
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
aca,Ever cracked an egg tha
January 12, 2007 - 09:49 ET by MightyMouthaca,
Ever cracked an egg that should have been a chicken? There is a difference, and ruins your appetite. :-p
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Ahh, yes, the old "unvi
January 12, 2007 - 10:00 ET by Dave RAhh, yes, the old "unviable cell mass" thing. Much easier to kill something when it has been dehumanized.
"Much easier to kill s
January 12, 2007 - 10:03 ET by MightyMouth"Much easier to kill something when it has been dehumanized"
The exact method a Serial Killer uses to commit his crimes.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM,Exactly. I've always fel
January 12, 2007 - 10:24 ET by Dave RMM,
Exactly. I've always felt there was something rather Ted Bundy-esque about these monsters.
Scary bunch, they are. :-O
As I posted in another thread
January 12, 2007 - 09:56 ET by Eric TurnerAs I posted in another thread:
I just want to know when the National Organization of Women is going to comment on this and chastise Sen. Boxer for the thoughtless comments she made about someone's personal choices.
Oh wait, I'm sorry. That may take place if they were actually a non-biased organization. But we're in "opposite world."
Finally, go to the NY Post article and digg it.
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
armyvet,The flag-waving man-h
January 12, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Dave Rarmyvet,
The flag-waving man-hater crowd will come down on Boxer the day I get appointed Exhalted Most High Ruler of the Universe!
Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
WRONG! I hereby appoint you &
January 12, 2007 - 10:35 ET by Ruths husband BenWRONG! I hereby appoint you "Exhalted Most High Ruler of the Universe" by virtue of the authority vested in me as "Most Excellent Pooh-bah in Charge of Appointments and Ointments." Your ointment will be arriving in a couple of business days, apply until the swelling goes down.
Yeah, that swelled-head thing
January 12, 2007 - 12:29 ET by Dave RYeah, that swelled-head thing can be so embarrassing.
I want to be in charge of the
January 12, 2007 - 10:38 ET by Eric TurnerI want to be in charge of the dungeon and torturing liberals (a la The Princess Bride)
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
Send Barbara Boxer an email
January 12, 2007 - 10:02 ET by Eric TurnerSend her a message of your disapproval (or approval for leftist trolls). I know she won't read it or care about it but what the hay, you may as well give it the ole college try!
"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
armyvet
January 12, 2007 - 10:06 ET by misterbilldone did that as soon as I finished reading the article. Tell the people WE put in office how we feel. My guess is she feeds at the same trough as Madam Speaker.
The hypocracy is overwhelming
January 12, 2007 - 10:20 ET by msh1973The hypocrisy is overwhelming. On one hand the liberal feminists tell women they don't need to be a wife and a mother to be "fulfilled". Now Boxer is condeming Sec. Rice for not having children. What is it going to be Sen. Boxer? Wife and motherhood or career? She speaks out of both sides of her liberal mouth.
As is the case with most libe
January 12, 2007 - 10:29 ET by JimboAs is the case with most liberals, she's not speaking out of her mouth.
You know light travels faster
January 12, 2007 - 10:43 ET by JABYou know light travels faster than sound, right?
...that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouth.
I think this applies here.
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful to the Ignorant"
Barara
January 12, 2007 - 12:22 ET by iveseenitallBarbara Boxer, another candidate to replace Walters when she leaves Rosie's Pig Pen (a.k.a. The View). She's on a par with Joy B. in more ways than one. She's a classless, vindictive, ignorant bitch.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
If a Republican had made co
January 12, 2007 - 15:42 ET by mlongIf a Republican had made comments about Janet Reno not having kids during the Clinton years you just know there would be hell to pay...the MSM would be all over it untill the Rep.was forced to resign.
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