AP: Pelosi's 'Historic Moment for Women' -- What About Condi?

Photo of Warner Todd Huston.

The AP isn't the only one going ga-ga over the ascension of Nancy Pelosi to become the "first Female Speaker of the House". We are seeing the fawning on just about every news outlet out there. And it is, indeed, quite an historic change from the long line of gentlemen that have taken the Speaker's gavel.

First female House speaker, Nancy Pelosi basks in historic day

WASHINGTON (AP) - San Francisco's Nancy Pelosi made history today by becoming the first female Speaker of the House in U.S. history.

Standing on the House floor with her six grandchildren, Pelosi said her election marked a historic moment for women in U.S. history.

Among the onlookers in the packed visitors' galleries were actor Richard Gere and singer Tony Bennett.

I am not sure why the mention of the so-called celebrities was important in the story, but as they wish.

Still, I just have one big question about all the hooplah about this "historic moment for women"...

Where was all the hooplah when Condi Rice took her place in the Bush Administration?

She had a few "historic days" herself, didn't she? Where was the AP -- and everyone else -- going nuts about Condi?

Just wondering?


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Interesting, isn't it?  Cons

Interesting, isn't it?  Conservatives judge people on their character and abilities, Liberals lump everyone into groups.  In this case, it didn't matter to either that Condi was a black woman -- Republicans elevate her to powerful positions of importance, Libs ignore her as just another member of the vast right wing conspiracy.

Pretty much indicative of both parties.

Doctor Rice is a treasure of

Doctor Rice is a treasure of mind and work for this country.  I hope she decides to run for high office some day.  If it's national (President, vice-president) I'll support her with everything I can do--all my meager funding will go to her.  She's too good not to...

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

I agree.  Not only would she

I agree.  Not only would she be a formidable candidate, she would serve with intelligence, dignity and class.  Given her experience, determination and world view, I think she's the Republican's, and the country's, best hope in '08.

Sorry. Dr. Rice has been a

Sorry. Dr. Rice has been a total bleepin' disaster and a massive disappointment in her role from a conservative perspective.

(Rather like the 'conservative' SCOTUS noms from Republican Presidents who then turn out to be just another closet liberal.)

Sure, I respect Dr. Rice as a human being who has risen to the top and as a person of huge abilities... BUT...

It looks like she has been captured by the State Depatment Arabists, chained to a radiatior in the basement and re-programmed.

I can't believe any serious conservative could be happy with her performance. Yes, I know she only represents her boss, and doesn't "make" policy.

But please, enough already. The more things change, the more they stay the same at State.

And the disasterous Palestinan entity 'doomed to failure' policies continue, under Dr. Rice.

Though I'm not saying that she couldn't be an interesting choice as VP on the '08 ticket with an actual real live CONSERVATIVE Republican as the nomination.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

You're a bit harsh Jack on Condi.

You're a bit harsh Jack on Condi.

Compared to Albright & Powell, she's done quite well.

She is working under a tremendous handicap.  I call your attention to the Foreign Service Officer Corps which is the meat and potatoes of the State Department.  They have their own private club in DC.  They recruit directly out of the Peace Corps, for example.

I'm not sure she is Presdential Conservative material, in that regard, I do agree with you.  I think you are right to demand a Conservative for President out of the Republicans.

But, realize that there aren't any outstanding Conservatives that can run and win.  John McCain?  Right.

The House and Senate are mushy and that is why we are seeing absolute nuts fill the vacume at the moment.

We'll have to have another serious and bad attack here at home to swing the nation back on its natural path of conservative fiscal and national pride leadership.

Might take two more elections before the Iranians build the suitcase bomb.  Given that, I'd go for Condi today.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "Which city is next?"

aca -- yeah, I suppose it's

aca -- yeah, I suppose it's the disappointment because I seriously thought she'd be a great SoS who redifined some of the inbred Institutional failed nostrums from the State Arabists.

And well, she hasn't been. Got to be honest with that pretty widespread assesment with major conservatives out there.

But -- as a balance on a true conservative ticket, I still think she would probably be an huge asset. Santorum/Rice?? That's politics.

Something like McCain/Rice, though? Err,, no thanks.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast ilitarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

Jack and Aca

Leaving aside the question of how Sec. Rice has performed - and without the obvious thesis on how Chairman Pelosi will perform (gag) - when only looking at the media's bias on the attention given both women as they achieved a position of historical significance, the bias is insulting and disgraceful.

From day one with Condi Rice, a "black conservative  woman" - she was handled like she was a leper by the MSM. They did not like her - they don't want to like her - and they were not going to like her. Katie Couric's personal interview - the piano and ensemble practice in the White House - was so typical; Couric simply could not fake her discomfort, as hard as she tried to act like she was enjoying herself. (imagine Couric with Peosi in a similar situation) 

With Peolsi, a "white liberal woman," they simply cannot contain their excitement.

Looking forward: And I predict that "if even" in the media's eyes they determine, in the end, that she underperformed, or disappointed them, they will quickly forget, forgive, and move immediately to focus only on what good she was, i.e., the good times 

Just this past week on ER the TV network sitcom was still out there smearing Sec. Rice. In the openning skit, between two gay lovers, she appeared on a TV in the background - the discusion went to how she was no role model for children," while longing for the likes of Sec. Albright.

Tie these folks to a chair and make them read the poster:

"What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?" Sec. Madeline Albright

SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: But ultimately, Ted, we are the United States, and we are the indispensable power.

Question: I mean, that is more children [1/2 million]  than died  in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Answer: Madeline Albright - "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it."

These type of comments (made all the time by Democrats), if uttered by Republicans, become engrained in the "talking points of the leftist movement and the MSM." When spoken by Democrats, the silence is deafening.

Gary -- I agree that Secretar

Gary -- I agree that Secretary Rice was always going to get the Uncle Tom treatment from the media.

To them it's an institutionalized article of faith that will NOT accept any dissent from the position that being black means being Democrat.  And that any African-American who strays from their plantation has something wrong with THEMSELVES.

They never see the beam in their own eye.

But -- should conservatives let the inbred patronizing racism of the mainly white liberal MSM blind us to what has (or has not) occured in the State Department under Dr. Rice?

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

Jack, couldn't the "p

Jack, couldn't the "palestinian entity" policy be the line in the sand that Israel needs to properly deal with her enemies? The arab world has been using Palestine as an excuse to launch attacks against Israel, so give them what they want. Now if they continue to attack (and they will), Israel will have the green light to handle the situation the way that it needs to be handled. I don't think we would be making those types of decisions unless Israel was on board with it.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

I agree, Jack.  I expected h

I agree, Jack.  I expected her to clean out some of the dead wood over at Foggy Bottem, but it just hasn't happened that way.

Dave, yeah, the problem is

Dave, yeah, the problem is she (nor the admin) has the power to hire and fire the careerists.

They know that.

However I'd like to know how many Clinton 'liberal' quasi-Marxist holdovers, who can be fired, are still employed at State.

I have a horrible feeling we'd be shocked to learn how many.

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The didn't just ignore her, t

The didn't just ignore her, they made racial slurs against her!  Damnable hypocrites!

Condi was neither the first w

Condi was neither the first women nor the first black to be SOS. 

The first competent woman, th

The first competent woman, though.

But she was the first to co

But she was the first to combine both.

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There is so much frustration

There is so much frustration with the state of the Justice Department, the State Department, not to mention the CIA, that it is understandable that you would be less than overwhelmed with Condi.  If she can't do better, who can? The traitorous leaks and undermining of our war effort and the lack of a cogent response to (what I see as) the corruption of these agencies is infuriating.  Where are the Americans!

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

kathleenirish,I am with you o

kathleenirish,

I am with you on this one. I have been so frustrated with the Bush Administration. It as if they have all gone to sleep at the wheel. Their lask luster effort to solve any problem sweeping America...from illegals to Social Security. I fear that President Bush has lost his will, if he had it to begin with. Then again perhaps he feels he is beating his head against the wall. With the msm's continual drum beat, it would be difficult to fight the good fight. I don't know, I am weary as well.

Is there anyone out there who

Is there anyone out there who can tell me WHY the leakers haven't been found and dealt with?  These "public servants" are breaking the law and should be released from duty and brought to trial immediately!  Why can no one find them?????

yes, that is the question. 

yes, that is the question.  WHY?  There's some reason for the hesitation and reluctance to go after them, I doubt it would be that difficult to pursue.  It is the most infuriating thing, next the NYT attempts to hurt this country and its ability to fight terrorism. 

Are you from Cape Cod?

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

You're right more than anyone

You're right more than anyone may know. Clinton left the CIA and the FBI in such a bad state. When Bush took office, the FBI agents at headquarters were using their own home computers because they were faster than the ones at HQ. The FBI were still stuck in the early 90's of computer tech when Bush took over. The CIA had a policy of promoting desk workers over people that worked in the field. When Bush took over, all he had was a bunch of politicians in charge instead of real spies. to everyone that worked at either place it was more of CYA, instead of getting the job done.

The problem with intelligence

The problem with intelligence as a whole was that the entire community began to rely too heavily on SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) which is a great source of intelligence, but it doesn't get you all you need.  HUMINT (Human Intellgeince) was placed on a backburner. It was a common complaint throughout the community and one that it is still recovering from.  SIGINT received the lion's share of funding throughout the late 80s and 90s.  Because of this, reporting from the field decreasing in quantity and quality.  It's no secret that efforts to infiltrate various terrorist organizations went undone due to lack of money and priority.  One could compare it with the overconfidence the western world felt prior to the Titanic disaster of 1912. It was believed that we could overcome anything through the use of industrial technology at that time. Compare that with the use of SIGINT. We believed that anything could be overcome through the use of modern SIGINT capabilities and platforms.  HUMINT was considered a thing of the past, archaic and a thing of a world that had done away with "nasty" spies, etc.

Regarding technology, even in military intelligence we received no computer upgrades for years at a time.  Events were ruled by petty politics. One organization would receive less funding or technological upgrades due to bias within the system.  This still happens within the system, particularly with those subunified commands who depend on their parent unified command for funding. 

Additionally, intelligence sharing is always a tricky business due to perceived leaks and original sources. I actually ran into situations where one agency would steal intelligence from fellow analysts from another agency and claim it as their own. It was often times pathetic.

It was always a joke, but sometimes joked about seriously, how back-stabbing was one subject they taught in the Intelligence School.

Another problem was the lack of standardization. This is still a problem. There is a complete lack of standardization within the agencies and even within the military. So often times databases have to be restructured and given in various other forms just so they can be passed to various other organizations.

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"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution

She had a few "historic days"

She had a few "historic days" herself, didn't she? Where was the AP -- and everyone else -- going nuts about Condi?

Just wondering?

They were busy despising Condi, because she happens to be a black Republican. Liberals (especially the media) hate black Republicans, especially female black Republicans who ascend to higher offices ahead of their Democratic counterparts.

They also hate her because SHE'S ULTRA-INTELLIGENT; she doesn't have one dumb bone in her body. She makes Hillary Clinton look like a dolt, and the media hates that! Smart, attractive, conservative, black woman? Nope...not getting good marks from the media.

Cunservatyve military medical guy

If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!

But if 3/4 of her brain sudde

But if 3/4 of her brain suddenly fell out of her head and she became a liberal, there would be no end to the media praise lavished upon her.

There's a hierarchy in the liberal world -- if you're a black woman, you're obviously oppressed twice over...unless you're a conservative, then that overrides everything.

3/4 is an awfully low estimat

3/4 is an awfully low estimate, isn't it? I am quite sure that far more than 3/4 of her brain would have to fall out for her to become a liberal.

Three quarters falls out, one

Three quarters falls out, one fourth seizes up and gets stuck in reverse.

What a wonderful opportunity.

What a wonderful opportunity.   Democrats now in minor majority showing their latest upredictable flip flop on real thinking that hopefully would tie into their last.   Long term memory still seems a shortcoming of the Democrats.  I really am starting to wonder how Bush can read any real opinion into Democrats spots other than - at first sign Bush might be onto succeeding start taking it apart and taking it down.  This is especially and now historically so a to making Bush run in the first place and not in favor of nation building.  Going after Saddam and towards getting out of the foreign policy bed we were in with him could only take one more thing away from Democrats to complain about Republicans and try as they did to cross associate with Saddam Hussein. 

To try to be brief on this long subject >> Don't nation build>  Sure we vote to go to war in Iraq>  Now that you have commited us we will now stop supporting President winning pr war at home> focus on WMD even if used to call Saddam's bluff and get him to finally let us look everywhere and by thus stay in power> Don't ask us why we voted in favor in the first place>  Now after saying no nation building start to argue that President didn't send in enough troops for nation building>  still keep President from winning any pr wars at home on war>  and once elected to minor majority claim that it would be wrong to send in more troops.  Secretary Rice how can you get anywhere with convincing other nations that we are united enough at home to gather their assistance?

Anybody?  Democrats?

The hypocrisy had been obviou

The hypocrisy had been obvious from day one...just remember the leftist rags with their cartoons featuring Condi Rice.

Disgraceful.

'Nuff said.

"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under."  Ronald Reagan

I think there were two differ

I think there were two different set of circumstances to Condi and Nancy's ascensions to power. Condi took over for Powell, and I think the administration at that time was more interested in moving on, a seamless transition, rather than any pomp and circumstance.

But of course, I'm looking at it from this side of the fence. :-)

So did Pelosi transcend boa,

So did Pelosi transcend boa, just because she is a woman shouldn't be so over done IMO...I can guarantee if it was a conservative woman it would of been treated differently. Pelosi and her illusions of grandeur will be hard for her to swallow when reality bites her in the false bottom she wears with her hand made dresses.

I was referring to the difference in how the MEDIA had handled the transition....

Remember how they treated Gingrich after the dem's held power for fourty years?

Shamelessly!

"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under."  Ronald Reagan

Okay...I'll throw this one ou

Okay...I'll throw this one out - how many male Speakers would have received such favorable coverage had they been walking around carrying their grandchild to show that they were "real grandfathers" and would "take care of both the children and the country" - talk about different standards being acceptable to the MSM!  And, of course, had the male or female been Republican instead of Democrat...forget it - they'd have been hung out to dry!

speaking of 'hung': I have an

speaking of 'hung': I have another bad Saddam Hussein 'joke'.

Saddam got a new sweater before his execution.  It hung well but it was tight around the neck. 

I promise, I'll stop now.

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Their ya go Kathleen. Thats w

Their ya go Kathleen. Thats what I call unwinding LOL

but the crux there is that ev

but the crux there is that even the Dems are not in charge of the "pomp and circumstance", the media is. The Bush team didn't push for media coverage?you really think the media would have given it to them had they ask more?

the point is that the media is doing it on their own. giving pomp to one, and not the other: playing favorites which is what NB is all about.

brain power

who would you rather have dinner with?

La'pillager from n.y.

La'peloser from calif.

Dr. Condi Rice from D.C.