I don't really give a damn if the Taliban or al Qaeda feel bad when we achieve victory.

The teleprompter needs to be fired immediately.

...editors are scurrying to rewrite the History books in order to portray prior events as interpreted by our 'Apologist in Chief'. I think that if Truman were alive today; he'd pull this clown into a room and unmercifully beat his ass. I know I'd like to!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

This "presidency" is going to blow the Disaster Meter, which had to be stoutly reinforced following the hideous Carter era, into little bitty pieces.

-Dave

Just exactly who is this Barack Hussein Obama?

   If you thought Iraq was tough then you won't like the Afghan war.  Afghanistan is not even a real country.  It's an area on the map comprising of people whose main loyalties are to clan and tribe.  We can shoot 'Taliban' for the next decade and there will still be Taliban out there.  You can't kill an idea with bullets.  Look across the Afghan border with Pakistan and there's the area known to Pakistan as the tribal area or the lawless region where a country like Pakistan cannot control the inhabitants living there.  I feel sorry for our military who must fight and die there. 

Well, I'd have to say that the formal surrender of the Japanese Empire, aboard the Missouri, is certainly as good a picture of "victory" as one can have in the mind's eye (the Iwo Jima picture also works as "victory" in a hard fought battle).

I think all of us would be pleased to think of the iconic WWII "victory" pictures when asked what victory is...my mother, who will be 87 soon, still associates time/place memories with the events of WWII (remember, they only had radio)....like on D-Day, when the invasion was announced on the intercom at the Wright Aeronautical factory where she worked, or VE Day or VJ Day.

Leave it to Obama, though, to bollix up not only the concept (he is THE American Apologist after all), but to also throw in a bit of revisionist history, too.  And of course, the media will cover for him.

I worry for the members of our military.  I fear assaults from the Obama administration are far more dangerous than the Taliban.  I predicted a while back that Obama will slowly undermine the military (new ROE's already in place).  Funding assaults to follow.

Thanks for keeping your eye on this ball, Warner.

I hope he fails, too.

So the Bamster has a distorted  view of what victory over an enemy that attacked YOU first is or should be.....wonder what his thoughts are on a "victory" of his health care plan?

Bush constantly said that the War on Terror was asymmetric. As a result, there will never be a final battle, where there's a final score, and a trophy presentation, and we can watch the highlights on ESPN. This war has no closure. Obama tried to make the same point, but in the act, he unconsciously added something that Bush didn't. Obama thinks that the asymmetry of the war means you can't win it. Bush never thought that. Nor did any of his generals. (They may have questioned whether the current plan would be successful, but that's a different complaint).

We can win an asymmetrical war, but we just have to fight it differently. That's why the Surge was so important; it was the strategy to win an asymmetrical war. Fighting it is a coordination between all the instruments of foreign relations: military, diplomacy, economic strength, and everything else - even the media. It starts with military security, but that can't succeed by itself.

The most important part, however, is a commitment. The Iraqis were being told (by the enemy) that the Americans were going to run out on them when the going got tough. But when alQaeda blew their chance, the Iraqis saw that we were still there, that's what cemented the Surge's success. Our commitment was the key.

When you think of Obama, think of all the buses under which he's thrown his former allies. Do you think of commitment when it comes to Obama? Nah.

  The only victory obama is wanting to achieve is the defeat of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin........

Double Post.  Please delete.

This offers an amazing insight into his thinking. He had no problem declaring a personal victory in November. It's only in connection with the country that he is uncomfortable with the word.

If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers

There's a simpe definition for victory:  When the government or influencing group being attacked by our forces is not longer in power.  That's what defined Victory in WWII, even though there were "insurgents' in Germany AFTER victory was declared, even 40 years later (think of the Red Army Faction terrorist group in Germany back in the 80's.) 

The Taliban and al qaeda is no long in power in Afghanistan.  The Taliban  government has been routed and no longer exists, and al qaeda is reduced to small groups staging ineffective cross-boarder attacks than achieve nothing at all (other than to kill innocent people), a clear victory for our troops AND the Afghan people themselves, yet the MSM AND Obama claims that there is still no victory. 

I wonder what it will take until they DO admit a victory has taken place?  Will it only occur after all America troops have been pulled out, like they insist is the only definition of victory in Iraq?  If that's their definition of "victory," then I guess we NEVER achieved victory in Europe or Japan as we STILL have troops stationed there.

Come on, people, we've already achieved victory, both in Iraq and Afghanistan.  The only problem is that victory was achieved under Bush's command.  God help the liberals if they are forced to admit that Bush' actually achieved a victory.

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Anyone who triumphs over evil is evil. We should have never beaten the Japanese. We should have held hands and sang kum-bay-ah. Those peaceful loving people, kind of like our loving mooslim brothers and sisters, are just misunderstood. Whipping their a$$ to save the world was just unjustified. Better to let them subjugate an entire country than, God forbid, stand up.

... you don't allow kids to choose up teams, or when you put everyone who signs up on the varsity cheerleader squad. Someone who's more concerned about feelings than actual facts.
But then, that's the Messiah all over, isn't it?

jmt
http://www.jmichaelt.org

Victory is only a meaningful concept when it applies to his winning the Presidency. Early on we were reminded, "He won", and of course we're reminded daily, "It's not about me". I wonder how he concludes his daily pick-up basketball games when "victory" is something he so abhors?

Ya know, somewhere in the back of my mind, during the campaign, there was this wishful thinking he was what he was selling, it was way back there, down in the basement, but there. I did vote for McCain, knowing the loudest voice in my head was telling me Obama was a fraud, albeit I would have voted for any Republican over a charlatan Democrat...

My vision of Victory in WWII is the cities of Nazi Europe in flames and the Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki turned into carbon.  Unconditional surrender  means exactly this:  surrender, or we will kill all of you and take your stuff.  It's a fairly straightforward concept.

 There is no partial victory,  history has determined that victory in war comes with the aggressive use of force.

If Dear Leader had any inkling of military education or history he would at least know that.  Unfortunately, he is not a very educated man.  His Harvard degree was bought and paid for by a Saudi national.  He has never run a company, met a payroll, or held a job in the private sector, so we can't really blame him for being totally ignorant regarding U.S. History, or any other subject that normal people are familiar with.

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I hope he keeps it up, I really do. He will because he is really stupid. He made several remarks about memorial day and others similar to the revisionist history he babbles. What is clear is that they are simple mistakes of fact. You are absolutely right about the US (MacArthur) let Hirohito stay around and set up the parlimentary gov't. Japanese generals did the losing face task of surrendering on the USS Missouri. The state run media knows better too. They just didn't run it. They know what happened. They think Barry is King and don't want to embarass him.....yet.  

He reminds me of so many young corporate "educated" metro sexual men who just brown nose the shit out of the boss to get where they are and when they get there, just show their ass day after day until the boss has enough of him and shows him the door.

In our case, it is US who is boss. Lets show this empty suit liar idiot the door. His rhetoric and stupid lies about "victory and Hirohito" tell me just how empty he is. 

Thanks for picking up on this. 

Let's just cut to the chase here, people.

Obama is an asswipe.