Time Blames Calif. Budget Mess on... Low Taxes?


For Time Magazine, Kevin O'Leary has decided that he's figured out why California is in such a budget mess. Is it because the state indulges over generous social programs, or always has some of the highest taxes in the nation, or because the denizens of its capitol in Sacramento are paragons of waste, fraud and theft? Nope. It's because California has Proposition 13, a measure that prevents state government from too easily raising taxes. Yep, O'Leary thinks California is in a mess because it doesn't have high enough taxes. And it's all Reagan's fault.

With some of the highest taxes in America, California is a hard place to make a living. According to the Tax Foundation, on average it takes a citizen 110 working days to earn enough money to pay his yearly tax bill. That is the fourth worst in the country. California consistently ranks in or near the top 10 worst states for its tax burdens from property taxes, to corporate taxes, to individual taxes and fees of all sorts. So, how can O'Leary imagine that taxes aren't high enough in California?

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It's an undeniable fact that taxes are higher in California than most other states. A recent report notes, "California has the highest sales tax (8.25percent, plus local add-ons), gas tax (35.3 cents a gallon) and vehicle license fees ($318 on a $20,000 gas-powered car), along with the second-highest top-bracket income tax (10.55 percent; Hawaii is No. 1 at 11 percent)."

It's so bad that in 2008 144,000 people moved out of California, the highest loss of residents of any U.S. state. The Golden State just ain't so golden anymore.

But as far as O'Leary is concerned taxes are too low in one of our highest taxed states and it's all because of Prop. 13 for which he blames the "Reagan revolution." Apparently O'Leary hasn't updated his syndromes. He's still wallowing in Reagan Derangement Syndrome and hasn't been alerted that he's supposed to have Bush Derangement Syndrome these days.

What has brought California to such a perilous state? How did its government become so wildly dysfunctional? One obvious cause is the deep recession that has caused tax revenues to plunge for all states. But California's woes have a set of deeper reasons: direct democracy run amok, timid governors, partisan gridlock and a flawed constitution all contribute to budget chaos and people in pain. And at the root of California's misery lies Proposition 13, the antitax measure that ignited the Reagan Revolution and the conservative era. In Washington, the Reagan-Bush era is over. But in California, the conservative legacy lives on.

Of course, it wasn't Reagan that created Proposition 13. But, whatever.

Regardless, O'Leary moans that it was oh, so grand in the old days. He wistfully informs us that then, back before that nasty, evil, brutish Reagan, "in the 1950s and '60s, California was a liberal showcase." Why it was a nirvana of socialist societal engineering in those golden years. And then came that darned old Prop 13 that "shot the tires out of" the "liberal state."

Amusingly, O'Leary's tax-mongering propaganda casts liberal lawmakers as heros for trying so hard to "live with" the law, even as it supposedly precluded them from being able to supply the state with services.

Beholden to a tax-averse electorate, the state's liberals and moderates have attempted to live with Proposition 13 while continuing to provide the state services Californians expect - freeways, higher education, locking up felons, assisting needy families and, very importantly, essential funding to local government and school districts that vanished after the antitax measure passed.

What tosh. Other states have not had nearly as many problems as California while also having to deliver the same services. So, why is California one of the most bankrupted states in the union?

With such a stark statement as laying the blame for the state's fiscal crisis squarely on Prop 13, one might think that O'Leary might have taken the time to offer some proof or statistics to substantiate his thesis. One would be wrong. After making the claim, O'Leary spends several dense paragraphs offering anecdotal stories about Californians that have been helped by the state's welfare programs, but offers no stats, no comparisons to other states, no investigation of the state's expenditures or anything else to actually prove his claim that Prop 13 is what did in the state's budget. He merely states it as a fact and moves forward with the assumption taken on faith.

It's amazing that Kevin O'Leary's piece was even published it is so empty of veracity. It's so bad that even his very first paragraph contains a factual disparity. (My bold)

The financial crisis in California grew worse this week as State Controller John Chiang warned that if legislators and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger fail to come up with a budget-balancing package, he would begin paying California's bills with IOUs on July 2. The last time the state did this was during the Great Depression.

As excerpted by CNN, Rhodes Cook/Congressional Quarterly proves O'Leary wrong. (Again my bold)

Times changed and Wilson had to be a "bad times" governor. Defense downsizing has sent the state economy into a spiral at the same time that California has kept growing with immigrants, both legal and illegal. Faced with a series of budget crises, Wilson at one point was forced to issue IOUs instead of state paychecks.

The "Wilson" in the report above would be Governor Pete Wilson. Obviously, Wilson had to pay state bills with IOUs. That was the 1990s. From my calculations the 1990s was a bit after the Great Depression.

Finally, one is struck by the fact that missing in O'Leary's piece is any hint that lawmakers just might be wasteful and that the profligate spending by Sacramento is a bad thing. No, it seems that as far as O'Leary is concerned, any and all government spending is the right move and any law that gets in the way of high taxes and a spendthrift government is a bad thing.

Time files this piece in its "U.S. News" section, but it simply does not stand up to scrutiny and without any pertinent facts to prove his claim, it's hardly "news.".


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I swear.

Kevin O'Leary and other "reporters" in other liberal weekly and daily rags REFUSE to see the forest for the trees.  Would someone PLEASE tell me WHY politicians and they're liberal hack friends can't get the concept of... If you DON'T have the money, you DON'T spend it? 

Well, don't worry O'Leary ol' buddy.  I'm sure that Uncle Slam will be MORE than willing to raise EVERYONE'S taxes across the country.  Will THAT make you happy, clown?

It blows me away that

It blows me away that people actually think like this. It is mind boggling. Something is definitely wrong with their reason and thought process.

"DumbAssity of Dope"

Look up...

Post-structuralism and deconstructionism. The state media knows exactly what they're doing. And, they are doing so knowing that the average American is a knuckle-dragging, drooling idiot.

fiscal responsibility

Fiscal responsibility, we don't need no stinking fiscal responsibility!

The amazing thing is he

The amazing thing is he wrote that entire article without  once mentioning illegal immigrants.

Yeah, that would be uncool.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Exactly

And that was because he sees no problem at all with indulgent spending on illegal aliens. Why mention it? It's perfectly good spending, after all, as far as he's concerned.

Be sure and visit my home blog PubliusForum.com.

Not just illegal, MB --

Not just illegal, MB -- take a look at what's happening in Massachusetts. Governor Deval Patrick plans to announce a spending proposal tomorrow that retains medical coverage for some 30,000 legal immigrants who are at risk of losing it, and will also agree to ensure dental coverage for another 700,000 of the state’s poorest residents, administration officials said yesterday.

On Friday, the Govenor signed a bill that increased Massachusetts' sales tax by 25%. So basically, he preserved, and then increased, the spending in a bad economy -- and did it by raising the taxes on everyone who is still employed.

My questions:

1. Do any of these 730,000 people have a cell phone?
2. Does anyone have a TV, or microwave, or new car, or smoke cigarettes?
3. Are any of them required to pay a premium, even $1?
4. How many of these people have been at the public trough for 5 years? 10 years? Longer?
5. How many taxpayers also have dental benefits?

This is a typical liberal argument made by democratic Government kings and queens: The poor deserve our compassion. But the liberals always take it 100 times too far. To them, the poor deserve the best that taxpayer money can buy, and if there is anything that a middle class person has, then it can't be denied to the poor. I can't tell you how angry this makes me -- and I don't even live in Massachusetts (I left that state many years ago)>

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Liberals constantly demand that we accept a glaring falsehood as truth; Obama's elimination of the word "terror" will make terrorist acts less terrifying

Funny thing is, a 25% sales

Funny thing is, a 25% sales tax is something the poor pay too.  And since the poor are some pretty big consumers, it hits them pretty hard.

poor deserve our compassion

Another lie about compassion. Instead of helping people up the liberals hold them down. Their compassionate plan is to destroy our country and way of life by overloading the system.

James Simpson at American Thinker goes into great detail to describe the "Cloward Piven strategy" and it's connection to Democrats and Obama. This methodology requires NO belief you can see it unfolding before your eyes as we watch Washington.

Why would illegal

Why would illegal immigration be mentioned....why I heard Little Lindsey Graham this morning say the reason the repubs lost so many hispanic votes in the last election was because of their angry talk about them on the Senate Floor...

Imagine that?

The dumb-a$$...along with a whole heck of a lot of them in the 'R' party never wanted illegal immigration mentioned during the presidential debates...or on the campaign trail, they could have won on that alone, along with Drill Baby Drill at the time.

Same dumb-shites ...same lines.

I hope someone runs against him that is a real conservative with brains instead of McC's butt-boy.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Re why would illegal

There's a disconnect on the issue of hispanic voters that I don't understand. We are always told that when Republicans oppose illegal alien amnesty, we lose hispanic votes. Yet in surveys, it's been shown time and time again that LEGAL hispanics tend to want tougher immigration laws. They want illegals to have to go through the same legal process that they did. Yet they vote democratic. Why?

Now if I was a cynic, I might think that the votes Republicans are losing are illegal votes, cast by illegal aliens that somehow got registered to vote. That's one explanation that works. It got Loretta Sanchez elected, and probably Christine Gregoire. What other explanation could there be?

sw... There

sw...

There isn't.

ACORN and sister groups...the dem machine...heck, Shrillary was working to register voters in Texas when she was a very young woman if memory serves me, before she was married to Billy Boy...this has been going on for years, she and others when she was the 1st L partner in crime had illegals come in....I cannot at the moment remember the lawyers name who worked in the House on the Impeachment committee from Chicago who had boxes and boxes of illegals that were here, that were felons and such...never allowed to be made public etc...let alone, these people rounded up and exported, plus they had the Motor Voter law going right off the bat for this reason....plus she put in her old college chum Doris Meissner I think it was in as head of INS, and gave to HuffnPuff also/....

slick, here is a rich link, look at all the connections and ties to illegals getting in here....and in my opinion it's just the tip of the Iceberg now...we all know besides groups mentioned, Soros and crew, Podesta and all their intertwined sites are all connected.

slick...btw...David Shippers is his name that was the Impeachment lawyer in the House....google his name, you will find all kinds if very interesting info. and interviews, of course use your own judgement on all of these links as always....some pretty good ones I saw, don't have the time myself either.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bigtimer - Did you hear Lindsey Graham continuously praising

President Obama on Meet the Press?  With fans such as Sen. Graham, President Obama doesn't need democrat support.

SEN. GRAHAM:....I think President Obama, quite frankly, has been one of the better role models in the entire country for the idea of being a good parent, a good father. So this idea that, that, that we're for good families and Democrats are silent's not true. I think we fail on both sides. But quite frankly, President Obama has done a lot of good in his--the way he carries himself and conducts himself in the area of family.

SEN. GRAHAM: Yes. And I think the video of the young girl dying in the street made it real to the president more than anything I could say, and since then he's done a very good job. And the question for this country and the world is if the supreme leader certifies the election and says Ahmadinejad is the president of Iran, do we recognize that? I don't see how we can now. I don't see how we can embrace this regime, given what they've done and the way they've behaved.

Here is Sen. Graham dissing Karl Rove and Tom Delay:

There has been no bipartisanship. The stimulus package was Karl Rove politics; pick a few Republicans off, call it bipartisan. The climate change bill was Tom DeLay banging heads and twisting arms to get one vote more than you

Here is Sen. Graham on Global Warming:

This idea of climate change is real, in my opinion, and the way you solve the problem is not you have some major tax on industry and private sector. You join forces with energy independence groups and climate change groups to get a bipartisan bill. But this bill coming out of the House is going nowhere in the Senate. But climate change is real and we need to do something. The gang of 10 that I was in...

This is one of the reasons the state-run media love to have Sen. Lindsey Graham (and John McCain) speaking for the Republicans.

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"They want to be loved and adored by the media, they want fawning treatment, they want to be thought of as something special, unique, dignified and so forth, and that's the Washington establishment." ~ Rush Limbaugh on Washingtonians like McCain, Graham, and Colin Powell

hide the truth

Although neither the poles nor the pundits will admit it, California's problems are directly tied to the two million? illegal immigrants who swamps the state's infrastructure. And, it's going to get worse.  La Raza really does aim to take Calif back from America and the Mexican nationalists can do it in a way by ruining the sate economically.  We may not actually cede Calif back to the Mexicans but they have taken it over in their own way.....it's going to get much worse, too.  Ask anyone who lives there if there are not places in Calif that are not run by Mexican gangs?

 

 Call your cable or satellite company and demand that they remove CNN, MSNBC, and MTV from your entertainment package.  Stop subsidizing the liberal left.  

HMMMMMM

 

 144,000 left in 2008 and 300,000 illeagles moved in. Tax them! 

Cut off all the free

Cut off all the free services that illegal immigrants suck the State for!  Free medical, education, school lunches, even recreation (try to find a park on a Saturday or Sunday not overrun by illegals). Not to mention the burden on emergency services or police, fire, etc.  

Next, cut about 1/4 of all State employees.  You know, the middle-manager types that sit around all day doing nothing but looking into their computer screen trying to find new ways to hire more government employees so they can have more people under their control (hence, a raise in salary).

I know, wishful thinking, right? 

 

Three more pesky facts...

First there was a 70% turnout on June 6. 1978, one of the highest turnouts ever for an off year ballot iniative.  

Second Proposition passed with 65% of the vote.

Third there is no survey taken to date that says the California people would  overturn Proposition 13.

Jack

"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart.  If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains."   Sir Winston Churchill

Have Californians Changed Since I lived there?

I lived in the San Francisco area several years ago. Everyone seemed to be more interested in living their 'Life Style' rather than their life (at least those I worked with and knew).

Work and seemingly every responsibility, was something one 'Endured' so that playtime or pretentious living could be achieved.

Men were introduced by what they were pursuing, rather than what they were achieving to provide for themselves and their families.

Women were introduced as 'Trophies', instead of an integral part of the husbands life and family.

Make believe and fantasy is not just located in Hollywood California, but seemingly throughout most of the State.

Those who ignore or run from responsibility and reality, always trip and fall.

I am not the least bit surprised about the problems of California.

The quest for causality in California shoul begin with Californians looking in a mirror.

RG

"Those who ignore or run from responsibility and reality, always trip and fall."

That's a great way to say it.  Unfortunately, we have politicians who are more than ready to tax those who do not run from reality to cover those who do.  It sounds like a lot of those who do not run from reality are leaving California.  

It's the pensions!

Here's one of the reasons California is going broke, -the overly generous government pension plans. Article from a week ago: Pension Hike of a Decade Ago Backfires: http://www.sacbee.com

"Although the new pensions would generate almost countless billions of dollars in extra income for retirees in the years ahead, the CalPERS board, dominated by union representatives, told legislators that taxpayers wouldn't have to bear the load because investment income, which was flowing into the pension trust fund from high-tech stocks, would continue indefinitely."

We have to force government pensions into not what can be negotiated by powerful unions, but what is fair and equitable. The Bamster is all for income redistribution and social justice, yet he also seems in favor of outrageous government pensions and their gold-plated medical care plans. Do you know how many private industry non-union pensions include a medical plan?

Why does the old media seem unwilling to opine on these gold-plated government pensions? They 'make value judgements' on everything else.

Why?

I see three possilbe reasons why they are "unwilling to opine on these gold-plated government pensions:"

A. They are idiots that actually believe the BS our government tells them.

B. They are told what to report and how to report it.

C. All of the above

All too many believe that the American Dream should be handed to them on a silver platter--nevermind working for it. They want the government to meet all of their wants and, sadly, they don't want to think about where the money comes from to pay for all of it. The media is spoon feeding the public with selected bits of information that point towards an obvious conclusion.

Pretty sad, huh?  

  

"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr

jessieH          

jessieH                  California is broke because of people like Pelosi & Waxman. Now they are destroying the rest of the country. " no drilling off our shores" & "let's build a 50 million dollar monkey house", has a lot to do with it. "shut off water to farmers & save a fish". That's not thinking of the people, that is stupidity.

TIME is not journalism

The scary thing about Time is that they really do think that if you laid off half the California public officials that the people would be unable to survive without their goverment programs.

That's why Time won't even bother to investigate or report on the number of public employees or the costs involved.  A JOURNALIST would at least look, because a JOURNALIST would be interested in unearthing facts, investigating to find the truth, and reporting all facts and letting the reader decide for themselves.

Time- you are not journalists!  You are advocates.  And you lack the will or ability to admit it.  Take your pal Newsweek and enjoy obsolescence.

So if things were so great

So if things were so great in the 50's and 60's what could have possibly changed since then.. lets discount out of hand the millions of illegals that are shutting down hospitals and draining the state into banckruptcy with welfare, childservices etc. and go straight to the tax policy. OF COURSE the taxes are not high enough... they have to be higher to pay for the services given to those who do not put into the system. Either that or get rid of the drain on resources....wait, thats just crazy talk.

Everson v. Board of Education (1947)

This was the first serious liberal victory to destroy the foundation of our country. See WallBuilders. It took a few decades for the change to sink in but they keep expanding the damage. Today, Washington is implementing socialism and people that think like the Forefathers are considered possible terrorists by DHS.

Destroy the foundation and the building will fail.

I don't get why New York,

I don't get why New York, Massachusetts and some of the other tax and spend states aren't in the same position.  They must be getting close?

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

Typical, lazy,

Typical, lazy, fact-challenged opinion piece by this ignorant TIME douchebag.  During the real estate boom, revenues generated from property taxes skyrocketed due to a rash of home transfers.  Under Prop 13, a house that was once purchased for $250,000 would be billed approximately $2,500 per year (going up no more than 2% per year on that $2,500)...when sold for $500,000, the new owner would be required to pay $5,000 per year in property taxes.  As a result, property tax revenues grew exponentially, meaning there was MORE THAN ENOUGH revenue generated to cover the government spending requirements.  When coupled with the fact that incomes (and thus state income taxes) grew significantly in that same period, the state would have easily operated at a surplus if only the thieves in Sacramento hadn't pissed away all the extra revenues (and then some) on wasteful social programs, trial lawyers, eco-Marxist regulations, Goonion pensions and medical benefits, public schools and illegal aliens.  A little honesty would be nice, but TIME's shrinking circulation and size gives a clear indication that its editorial policy is at the core of its demise.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."  -George Best

The "add-ons" in Redondo Beach where I live bring the total

sales tax rate up to 9.25%.

From the Republican Party of Riverside County website dated June 19:

Last night Democrats passed a package of 2 billion dollars worth of new revenue measures on top of another 2 billion dollars of revenue acceleration and enforcement measures. Within the new tax package Democrats presented three old ideas they think will help close the budget gap. Oil severance tax, repealing businesses tax credits, and tripling the tax on tobacco products scored a revenue increase of 2 billion dollars.

What is unbelievable is that many democrats, including Budget Conference Committee Chairwoman Noreen Evans, believe California doesn't have to live within its means:

During the heated tax debate, Budget Conference Committee member Senator Alan Lowenthal (D-Long Beach) offered his hesitant support for the new tax proposals by saying that the state should do everything to “live within its means.” In an effort to seemingly admonish Senator Lowenthal for his hesitant support for the tax measures, Budget Conference Committee Chairwoman Noreen Evans (D-Santa Rosa) closed the debate by saying that as far as the state is concerned, “living within our means, means nothing.”

KFI 640 Talk Radio John & Ken have the audio of Chairwoman Evans explaining why “living within our means, means nothing.”

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“I've always said if you place a bag of manure in front of a Democrat they will certainly step in it . . . .” ~ Rush Limbaugh

RF... I cannot believe

RF...

I cannot believe what I just heard from this gal...I'm paraphrasing of course.

'when times were good we gave away out taxes'...HUH?

'living within our means means nothing'

'We have a moral obligation to provide for the needy'

HOW the hell can these people keep sitting and spinning before they get hit square on the forehead with reality, where does she think this money is going to come from the Tooth Fairy, and shed said that last statement at the end, it was unbelievable... all lemming leftists are in her rosy, hazy unreal world....they believe $$$ really does grow on trees, no wonder they hate the loggers.

 
It's late...I'm beside myself at times....I could say so much more...instead I'm sitting here shaking my head...sometimes at this time of night, I just say WTH and call it a night.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hi bt - That gal certainly seems clueless! But the Dems have

been clueless for years. That's why I can say with certainty that any state or city that is controlled by the Dems is in a budget mess like California.

Come to think about it, the Republicans haven't been very responsible in controlling spending either.

By the way, I replied to your post above regarding RINO Sen. Lindsey Graham on Meet the Press. I have a very difficult listening to him as well as RINO McCain when they spout their liberal bull.

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"Powell's not a Republican.  McCain's not a Republican.  These guys are not even mavericks.  They are Washingtonians. Washingtonians have their own culture and their own desires, and it is to matter.  They don't care who's in power, they just want to be closely associated with whoever is.  That's the name of the game and they want press adulation.  They want to be loved and adored by the media, they want fawning treatment, they want to be thought of as something special, unique, dignified and so forth, and that's the Washington establishment." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I love it when Wine Country

I love it when Wine Country socialites like Noreen Evans spout their infinite economic ignorance with the confidence of an expert.  The answer to everything is more taxes to individuals, more taxes to business, more job-killing "environmental" regulation and more payoffs to the goons in the SEIU, the CTA, the Prison Guards Union, the other assorted public employee mobs and the illegal alien supporters.  Of course, ask Noreen Evans how raising tax rates on businesses and individuals is going to increase enough tax revenues to cover the bloated spending when those tax rates are actually going to drive those businesses and individuals out of the State, and no doubt you'll get the typical California Democrat answer detached from reality: businesses and individuals are not going to leave California...it's too "beautiful" here, the "weather is too great", we're "ahead of the curve", where else are you going to go, we're "building for the future" while the other states are "treading water".  In truth, California leads the nation in one thing: rich men with their unaccomplished suburban bimbo wives running for office just to get out of the house to ease the empty nest syndrome (start at the school board, move to the city council, county board of supervisors, State Assembly, State Senate, maybe a run for Congress...).  Pretty soon, like common parasites, they house themselves comfortably in the safest reaches of the government host.  How else do you explain Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters and Noreen Evans?

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."  -George Best

classic

"living within our means, means nothing.”

$24 billion in the hole and she says that? Hook up an EEG and see if there's any activity.

 

He has already failed... his country.

OIL

California isn't broke .... They have plenty of oil.