Once again The New York Times unleashes a not-so-hidden agenda to its reading public. Here the Times is regurgitating the debunked claim that "90%" of Mexico's recovered guns used in crime south of the border are from U.S. gun dealers. There is a lot of misdirection in this piece against gun dealers and gun shows, as well. Contradictory claims are made with no proof offered but the say so of The Times.
The Times begins its tall tale by talking about Mexican gun smugglers that find it easy to buy "military style" weapons at U.S. gun shops to be smuggled into Mexico. The story talks of these "lightly regulated" gun dealers and blames them for the smuggling apparently because no records are kept or buyer's identities ascertained. And near the top half of the story is the debunked "90%" claim.
Federal agents say about 90 percent of the 12,000 pistols and rifles the Mexican authorities recovered from drug dealers last year and asked to be traced came from dealers in the United States, most of them in Texas and Arizona.
This false claim was debunked weeks ago by William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott in a piece titled, "The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S."
Lott and La Jeuesse gave us the facts of this false stat:
In fact, it's not even close. The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
In truth most of the guns that the billionaires in the drug cartels import into Mexico come through Mexico's southern border and are from China and Russia. I emphasize the simple fact that these drug dealers have billions of dollars at their disposal. They don't need to hire little folks here and there to sneak across the U.S. border and spend months buying single guns from hundreds of different American gun dealers. These drug cartels have the money to go directly to international arms dealers and buy all they want. And they do so.
The Times piece also claims that Mexican drug cartels are buying "military style" guns in the U.S. then sneaking them across the border to "convert" them to fully automatic machine guns. This is also an absurd claim leading people to imagine that this is going on routinely. Again, these drug cartels have more money than the Catholic Church. They can buy guns already made fully automatic from the manufacturer when they buy them from Russia and China. They do not need to waste the time and effort to buy semi-auto guns, then buy parts, and finally spend the man hours to convert these semi-auto guns to fully automatic machine guns.
Then the Times turns to a quote from National Rifle Association President Wayne LaPierre and presents his quote without context, an effort that makes his quote seem a bit of a non sequitur.
With billions in profits from illegal drugs, the cartels can easily obtain weapons on the black market in other countries, Mr. LaPierre and many gun dealers argue. “The cartels have the money to get guns wherever they want,” said Charles Fredien, the owner of Chuck’s Gun in Brownsville, Tex., on the border “They have grenades, don’t they? They don’t buy grenades here.” No one knows how large the cross-border trade in arms is. In 2008, the Mexican government seized more than 20,000 weapons from suspected drug dealers.
What the Times neglects to mention is that Mexican drug cartels have been using rocket propelled grenades and other heavy ordnance all of which have come from overseas and NONE of it from the U.S. But, with that fact left out of this Times story, LaPierre's grenade comment seems odd and off-topic.
And then comes the first contradictory part of the Times' story. After spending over half the story making American gun shop owners out to be the bad guy, the Times suddenly says that the A.T.F.'s best source of tips and intel actually comes from U.S. gun dealers.
“The dealers are an important source of information to them and very cooperative with the A.T.F.,” Mr. Keane said.
So, which is it, New York Times? Are U.S. gun dealers scofflaws that form a major part of the problem or are they helping law enforcement agencies deal with this mess?
Then the Times gets to "scare" tactics by using a straw man argument to claim that anyone can buy "military style" guns by the dozens without any legal requirements.
At a recent show in Pharr, Tex., another border town, a college freshman with a wispy beard arrived with two AR-15 rifles strapped to his body, spidery black guns designed for combat, tricked out with features that soldiers prize: collapsible stocks, pistol grips, extra long magazines.
The student, who asked to be identified only as Shane, was asking $1,900 for one of his rifles. As for paper work, he wanted only a handwritten receipt with the buyer’s name and address. He was not worried, he said, about the gun’s falling into the hands of drug cartels in Mexico.
This is certainly a straw man that the Times points to as a grave warning of a source for illegal guns in Mexico. Sure there are always a few guys walking around at gun shows trying to sell off parts of their private collections. Sure the paper trail for such sales might be sparse or non-existent. But, so what? These drug cartels are buying weapons by the truck load. Taking the time and personnel to attend random gun shows in the U.S. in the hopes that some guy with a "wispy beard" is going to be walking around selling his privately owned guns is NO reliable source of guns to supply gun hungry drug cartels with!
In the final analysis, this New York Times piece is filled with misconceptions based on misleading, shadowy claims as well as outright lies about what is going on in both Mexico and U.S. gun culture. And it's all for the singular purpose of denigrating Second Amendment rights in the U.S. and not in informing the public of a real problem in Mexico or any real part the U.S. might play in that problem.



















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April 15, 2009 - 01:17 ET by Army BratThe Obama Ministry of Propaganda.
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
New York Times....
April 15, 2009 - 08:58 ET by grumpyoldbTheir motto..
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"....
They don't write news, they write propaganda...
they
April 15, 2009 - 01:31 ET by GeronLare the Obama State Media not the Mainstream Media.
MSNBC is the OSMnbs
GOOD WORK NB!!!
April 15, 2009 - 06:31 ET by PaarlThe truth has power !!!
Paarl of Rhodesia
The liberal tactic of telling lies often is in full swing.
April 15, 2009 - 07:18 ET by c5thenThey used it successfully with abortion in the 1970's. All the activists and the media kept the lie of "a million" back ally abortions being done every year and 10's of thousands of deaths from them (that would be the mother's death not the intended death of the baby). That went a long way toward shifting public opinion that allowed the very bad Roe v. Wade decision by the Supreme Court. It now is quite clear that there were nowhere near 1 million abortions being performed in the '70s and that the number was in the thousands. And the activists and media knew it.
Now they are trying the same tactic with gun control. Lie about any statistic which makes guns seem dangerous and unnecessary to shift public opinion toward more and more unconstitutional restrictions on citizens being armed and able to protect themselves.
Statistically, automobiles are much more dangerous than guns. Why don't we ban them? There isn't even a constitutional right to own an automobile.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
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Most excellent piece of
April 15, 2009 - 07:19 ET by JohnMMost excellent piece of reporting, Warner! This is a clear analysis and free from the blatant editorializing that pervades the bulk of stories in the MSM. While you'd be entitled to inserting opinion here on a critical blog, I find your restraint exemplary.
Even while exposing the hypocrisy and bias, I appreciate your directness, clarity, and objectivity. Nice job!
Thanks
April 15, 2009 - 07:51 ET by Warner Todd HustonSometimes I CAN restrain my inner conservative preacher! LOL
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It says so much about the
April 15, 2009 - 07:25 ET by JohnMIt says so much about the NYT agenda that they cannot see the absurdity of cartels buying individual weapons here and converting them one by one. That the cartels buy automatic weapons by the truckload means they cannot be buying them here at all. So why is the NYT not researching and reporting on where all those automatic weapons are coming from? Perhaps they don't want to reveal the role that China and Russia play in our drug problem? That would be fitting for their leftist agenda...
Why No Research?
April 15, 2009 - 08:38 ET by allanfWhy is the Times not researching the story. Simply put, it fits their anti-gun agenda, so they will lap it up uncritically and run with it.
In other breaking news, Times Publisher Pinch Sulzberger has a rare New York City carry permit.
"Times Publisher Pinch
April 15, 2009 - 09:16 ET by NL207"Times Publisher Pinch Sulzberger has a rare New York City carry permit"
Do as I say, not as I do. He and Congressman Maurice Hinchey, Hypocrite from New York, have something else in common. You and I should not own guns for personal protection, but they should.
I hope anyone who still reads this
April 15, 2009 - 08:16 ET by general companyBS , starts thinking about what a good idea a barrier at the boarder would be. This story says boarder fence to me, a big one with lots of fancy detecting devices.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
WTH
April 15, 2009 - 09:17 ET by AnotherFedUpOneAnother great job!
NBC also had a report on last night with pretty much the same mantra, and can be found here after the commercial
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#30216723
To add to this debunking....
April 15, 2009 - 10:14 ET by slickwillie2001From the excellent Fox News article: "In fact, it's not even close. The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S."
This does not mean that 17% of the guns found in Mexican crimes were purchased at US gun shops as allowed by the 2nd Amendment. This only means that 17% of them had US-style serial numbers. That 17% can come from guns we have given to Mexico to aid their police and military forces that have now been stolen, or from US aid given to other countries which has now ended up in Mexico, or from Mexican soldiers that have deserted. From 80,000 to 100,000 Mexican soldiers have deserted in the last ten years or so.
Unfortunately the government appears to have not provided a breakdown of the 17%, so we don't know how many of the 17% were bought at retail gun dealers in our country.