Here is something that you NewsBusters fans can help me with because I am having difficulty deciding what is going on with this one. We have a shooting incident in Minnesota perpetrated by three Muslim Somali immigrants but for some reason almost every single media report about the incident omits the names of the shooters, names of obvious North African or ethnic origin. So, the question is, did the Old Media in Minnesota purposefully leave the names unreported so that they could cover up the fact that the criminals were Somali immigrants? And, if so, why would they do this?
We start with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that reports that "three suspects were in jail Sunday following a shooting in Lakeville that injured four other people." Apparently one of those arrested took umbrage at being told to leave a party and began shooting up the place as he and his friends left. But, all we get from the StarTrib is "three suspects." No names or descriptions.
Several TV reports are also empty of the names of those arrested for the crime. (Fox 12, KEYC, KARE Channel 11, and KSTP News 5 all skip the naming of those arrested.)
Even the Associated Press skips naming the perpetrators.
It isn't until the Saint Paul paper, the Pioneer Press, covers the story that we get the names of the "three suspects." It turns out those jailed by Lakeland police were "Mohamud Ahmed Hassan, 19, and Hamad Ahmad Issak, 21," and that a teen named Jibril Farah Mohamed who was connected to them. Jibril Farah Mohammed was released without being charged.
Why is it that only one news source listed the names of the arrested? Was it because the perpetrators were Somalis? If so, why wouldn't the news want these Somalis identified or even described? Are they as reticent to name other suspects in other reports? Especially in an area that has had recent problems between the Somali immigrant community and other residents, one would think that the names would seem relevant to the story of the greater community situation there.
So, what do you all think? Is this odd, or perfectly understandable?



















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March 30, 2009 - 04:47 ET by FranksamNothing to see here, move along. I got a feeling that the computers at the Star-Trib block anything that looks like 'Mohammed' or rhymes with 'Hussein' from going into print. As proof of my theory, when was the last time you saw a story about Larry, Curly and 'Mo'?
yeah yeah yeah
March 30, 2009 - 06:19 ET by AJBAND, we all know that mooslims are very peace loving, tolerant, friendly people who bathe regularly. Nothing going on here.
MINNESOTA NICE...
March 30, 2009 - 06:56 ET by danybhoyBeing here in Minnesota, I can assure you our local media bends over backwords to kiss the @$$ of ANY victim group. So most of the Minnesota MSM is what El-Rushbo would call "butt-boy media". The Minneapolis Star(Red Star)is the worst of them, & like the NYSlimes, it is another liberal fishwrap that is cutting staff & barely alive. The sooner that the Star goes down, the better.
As for the "religion of peace", why do those who speak for the "religion of peace" have to always remind us that Islam is the "religion of peace". If anything, it is a religion in pieces. Yeah, I know, not all muslims are terrorists, I have a few muslim friends, I get it. But almost all terrorists seem to be muslims.
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dont...
March 30, 2009 - 07:33 ET by AJBDon't kid yourself. The basic tenet of their religion is they are supreme over all on this earth and, as a result, can lie, deceive, kill, subjugate and take any liberty to advance their 'religion of peace'. When the founding principal of your religion is to lie, then 'religion of peace' fits right in, don't cha think?
Very peculiar indeed...
March 30, 2009 - 04:55 ET by NavyBuckeyebecause usually the alphabets are falling over each other to release the names of the criminals they report about.
Ironically if some senior boy in highschool was 17, went out on a date with his 16 year old girlfriend and the clock struck twelve on his birthday and he turned 18 and kissed his girlfriend goodnight...HOLY CRAP!!!!! His name would be plastered all over the news calling him a child predator and he would be branded a sex offender the rest of his life.
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Somalis, in general, are dangerous
March 30, 2009 - 05:39 ET by ThisnThatWe have enough evidence that Somalis are radical. Remember the Tysons Foods incident, where Labor Day was replaced by a Muslim holiday? Those weren't just "Muslims" in general -- they were Somalis. Here's a story from Aug 2008 about the Somalis in Shelbyville, where the Tyson's Food plant is located. A key statement is: "I felt that we had a social powder keg in the making so I began looking into the Somalis and the impact they have had on this community. Since that time, practically every person I have spoken to who have dealings with the refugees did not describe it as a positive experience." Read the story -- it has lots of examples.
I'm putting my money on these types of stories, and not on the so-called "Mulsim talking points". These are primitive people who have no intention of becoming Americans, and it's time we waked up to this fact, and started to take appropriate action.
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Seems the MSM considers only
March 30, 2009 - 07:07 ET by nadadhimmiSeems the MSM considers only white, Christian males to be capable of commiting crimes. This concealment is a perfect example of exactly why the old media is rapidly dying. Newspapers and news magazines are irrepairably biased and people have finally figured it out. Of course now liberals in congress want to support this liberal propaganda with tax dollars to try to maintain control of the population. There is a revolution brewing and the Oligarchs, of both parties are blind to it because they are surrounded day and night by ass kissing sycophants that tell them how "great" they are. When middle aged, working white men and women talk of the need for revolution, the polititians ignore it at their own political risk.
Yeah...
March 30, 2009 - 07:51 ET by HillbillyKingand they totally miss the irony that by only singling out white, Christian males they are practicing the exact prejudice they hope to prevent.
I've talked to enough of "them" by now to really believe that the majority honestly are too conditioned/brainwashed to understand that fact. They cannot apply the same standards of evidence to ALL scenarios. Its like when they cannot comprehend the racism of certain statements by the likes of Jesse an Al. They really just don't get it.
From an academic standpoint the success of the manufactured guilt complex is truly astounding.
From a practical standpoint, it's absolutely terrifying.
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Who's Dangerous?
March 30, 2009 - 07:08 ET by NoJellyActually, if you give it some thought, the more dangerous people in this scenario are the mindless do-gooders who dump these criminals on our city streets sans any education, english, or prior criminal history investigated.
Somalis, Hmong, Bosnian, all given arbitrary "refugee" status (oh yes, that word is now rendered to meaningless pap), a car, a place to live in a strange yet American city, and a whole populace of unsuspecting victims upon which to pounce. The benevolent perpetrator of this criminal onslaught? Lutheran Social Services, for one. They neither have a clue nor want one regarding the thugs and terrorists they inflict upon us, and the government turns a blind eye...
Violent crime rates in relatively small communities like Fargo are skyrocketing, and the names in the police blotters are un-pro-nouncable.
As to your question, Mr. Houston, this is nothing new. The Minneapolis Star Tribune has done this before, right along with omitting facts in other cases where legal gun owners have protected and saved lives because of concealed carry permits...The Strib is at heart a marxist birdcage liner.
We need more Somalis like we need a hole in the head
March 30, 2009 - 07:42 ET by SickofLibsTop 10 Refugee-sending countries to the U.S.: 1) Somalia 2) Liberia 3) Laos 4) Sudan 5) Ukraine 6) Caribbean 7) Cuba 8) Ethiopia 9) Iran 10) Moldova
Can I say I heard NOTHING about this at all
March 30, 2009 - 07:46 ET by moderncommentaries83Granted, I live in SE Wisconsin, and had a busy weekend, but I heard nothing about this...
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May be a matter of timing
March 30, 2009 - 09:09 ET by jbeeebYou may be reading more into this than there is. As a former reporter we would not publish charges until someone is formally charged. My guess is that is part of what is going on here. Then I would guess that the broadcast media simply picked up the AP story that was the Star-Trib's story. They probably never sent anyone to get actual information. The Pioneer-Press is probably the only other media outlet with the Star-Trib that has a regular police reporter to go down and get the information and either their deadline was different and they suspects were charged, or they may have a different policy.
Actually
March 30, 2009 - 09:15 ET by Warner Todd HustonActually, I didn't read anything into it. That's why I asked instead of asserted. Your explanation could be a perfect one for all I know.
And,
March 30, 2009 - 11:38 ET by UpNorthnot releasing names until arraignment gives the police time to establish that the names given by the suspect(s) is indeed the name of the suspect and not a false name. I know most readers here would find it shocking, shocking, to find that some people who get arrested, do, in fact, give a false name when booked.
Lacrosse players, anyone?
March 30, 2009 - 13:08 ET by CobraMan"As a former reporter we would not publish charges until someone is formally charged."
It's rather telling that this standard wasn't applied to those Duke University lacrosse players who were accused, repeatedly, in the press of raping a black woman, long before any formal charges were brought against them. They were NEVER charged, remember?. Even the Star and Tribune ran stories, and commentaries, as to their apparent guilt and the supposed "culture' which lead to that non-existent rape charges. So, tell me again about those "standards?" They seem to be applied selectively, do they not?
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Excellent point Cobra.
March 30, 2009 - 15:04 ET by RukusI remember some of the same going on with some Marines in Haditha. Selective is exactly right!
Gary
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Good points, both of you.
March 30, 2009 - 18:53 ET by ThisnThatGood points, both of you. Existing "reporters" are much different than prior reporters. Prior to the Moveon age, maybe some reporters were careful about the facts. But not any more. Lies and selective use of information to delibertly slant a story is the MO of today's so-called "reporters".
And the price for this lying? Delicious. I see that the Boston Globe has "completed its newsroom job cuts". Read the article. I think this could have been avoided if the Globe hadn't veered to the left like it did. But they did, and now they are suffering the consequences. Did I say delicious?
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Solution to the dilemma
March 30, 2009 - 09:29 ET by The Smokin FrogYeah, I see your concern. But here is a really important point. They more than likely weren't members of the NRA, so why say anything about them. And besides, Obama has a soft spot in his heart for terrorists, its babies that he wants to protect us from. And clearly these shooters were out of the womb. So there, I've solved the dilemma.
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Try a google search
March 30, 2009 - 09:37 ET by desertdwellerfor "sudden jihad syndrome"
Why should we know their names?
March 30, 2009 - 10:05 ET by cocodrieWe weren't allowed to use Present Obama's middle name and we still don't know his real name or origin.
Our new secretary of Homeland security has stopped INS raids to find illegal immigrants.
Present Obama and gang are going to "reeducate" Islamist murderers and release them to live amongst us.
Is there a connection?
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Were Shooters Unidentified in Press Because They Were Muslim?
March 30, 2009 - 11:05 ET by ekslibD-U-H!
From A Past Editor: Clarity
March 30, 2009 - 12:04 ET by Glenn_Franco_SimmonsI never believed in using descriptions of individuals in newspaper stories -- UNLESS the descriptions were so descriptive that so much of the male population, since most criminals in my small-town newspaper career were male, could not be implicated.
If the perp were me, say, I would have described me a tall white guy wearing a blue UCSB baseball cap with gold SB on the front and a green, multicolored Hawaiian shirt and tan shorts (I'm not always color-coordinated). That description, more than height and weight, would have clued my local community into whom I was.
Without that specificity, I do not believe height, weight and race are relevant, because they are so often wrong.
I've found that nearly all witnesses have actually INCORRECTLY identified height and weight. Thus, if you say, white, black or ethnic, such as Hispanic, then you run the risk of improperly and unfairly implicating so many men based on an eye-witness or -witnesses who are almost always inaccurate in their descriptions.
However, as a professional journalist, and especially as a Society of Professional Journalists' member, I subscribe to its Code of Ethics, which says in its header: "Seek Truth and Report It"
It then says, "Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information."
Well, I don't think a simple report on a shooting by naming the alleged perps is courageous, unless you face retribution which does occur, it is honest and fair to accurately gather their names, report their names and then say they have been arrested, not charged.
Too many times, newspapers say alleged perps have been "charged" by the police. The police cannot charge the alleged perps. Only a district attorney or U.S. attorney can do that. The police can arrest an alleged perp ON SUSPICION of something, for instance, shooting.
It is UNETHICAL not to report names of alleged perps who have been arrested. It is also UNETHICAL not to report that if someone has been arrested and then released and/or found not guilty (no one in the United States can be found "innocent" as many newspapers incorrectly report non-guilty verdicts) and not report it.
I hope this adds clarity. I see there are many comments and have not had the time to read them all.
I might write more about this on my main blog, as my most-recent blog was about jingoistic non-syndicated conservative talking heads unfairly portraying the octuplets' mother first as Muslim (she isn't, which is irrelevant) and then as a "foreigner" (she isn't. She's American, which is irrelevant).
Since writing this, I have one caveat, so I have edited my original post: I would prefer, personally, not to name names (meaning those arrested) in any alleged crime until the suspects go on trial.
However, I maintain that it is unethical not to report the truth, and if the truth is that someone has been arrested, it is ethical to say so, unless you have a policy that no one's name is used if they have been arrested until they go on trial.
If you name the names of other people who have been arrested, as the newspaper in question here has done, then I stand by my charge that it is unethical not to report the names of arrested suspects.
Glenn Franco Simmons
I would also like to know -
March 30, 2009 - 11:43 ET by ThomNJI would also like to know - everytime I read one of these stories - if the guns used in the shooting were in fact, legally obtained. Most often, they are not.
I recall one classic case where three men were widely reported to have tackled a shooter on a campus, or the like, a few years or so ago. Only a handfull of reports told the truth, that the three men who accosted the shooter did not tackle the shooter at all. Two of the three ran and got their own handguns and then did not shoot the guy but confronted him when he was re-loading. More than a hundred stories of his being tackled and only a few truthful.
Be prepared, soon the media will be identifying the shooters if they voted Republican or were vets or Boy Scouts or Christians or Jews, but you will see nothing (as in the article referenced above) if they were or voted Democrat, were muslims or animists or atheists or homosexuals or illegal aliens or members of ACORN, whatever, etc.
It's because they are black men.
March 30, 2009 - 11:53 ET by CobraManI noticed that the Star and Tribune, as well as most of the liberal news stations around the Metro Area here in Minnesota, all avoid referring to a criminal's race (and refusing to release black-sounding names helps to disguise their race), if that criminal happens to part of the "minority" class. That is, except for Asians. Asians are usually identified right away, especially the Lao immigrants and their children. It's a double standard with the liberals.
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"Mus-lim"
March 30, 2009 - 12:35 ET by actionWhatever happened to the word "Moslem" to describe followers of Islam?? The first time I ever heard "muslim" was in the 60's; it was used to specifically desribe blacks in the US who adhered to Islam.
One who will always say "Moslem"
→ And Mohammedans
March 30, 2009 - 12:38 ET by Cool ArrowI like to call them Mohammedans.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Can't we just call them anti-christ-ians
March 30, 2009 - 17:50 ET by c5thenHey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
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Tortured Language
March 30, 2009 - 13:18 ET by CobraMan"Whatever happened to the word "Moslem" to describe followers of Islam??"
Americans, just like our British forefathers, can never spell or pronounce any translation correctly. I blame it on the Queen's English, which was adopted to keep the peasants, the commoners, illiterate by making spelling and pronunciation almost impossible to correlate. When the commoners came to America, they brought the Queen's English with them.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
→ Phonetically speaking
March 30, 2009 - 13:20 ET by Cool ArrowWe should be calling them Moo Slims.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Mus-Lims
March 30, 2009 - 13:23 ET by CobraManShouldn't it be muz-lims? See, another example of the Queen's English screwing it up for everyone!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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Re Tortured
March 30, 2009 - 13:46 ET by slickwillie2001It's like black/negro/african-american etc. Lately minorities get to tell the PC crowd what they should be called. I looked through some old census rolls, doing family research, and noticed that in the early 1900's they were called 'mohametans' or 'mahometans'. I looked though a few thousand entries and didn't see muslim or moslem or islamic once.
→ What's next?
March 30, 2009 - 13:50 ET by Cool ArrowCan we call them Followers of the pedophile, Mohammed, (wallabe braised)?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
CA...
March 30, 2009 - 13:58 ET by HillbillyKingthe edict from the high holies over in the great sandbox callin for your head is in the mail. ;-)
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
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Thanks for the Heads off HBK.
March 30, 2009 - 14:08 ET by Cool ArrowMohammed's treatment of his wife, nine yr. old A'isha, is standing law in many Muslim countries.
And since the word "pedophile" simply means : One who is sexually attracted to children", there should be no problem with use of the term.
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Moslem
March 31, 2009 - 07:10 ET by actionI'm talking about when I was growing up--in the
50's. I still have my Encyclopedia Brittanica from 1958; the entry for "Moslem" takes up 4 pages. It was the way everyone I knew at the time referred to the followers of Islam
They're All Doing It.
March 30, 2009 - 14:04 ET by flyingmonkeyNot long ago we had a rash of robberies in the Kansas City area being perpetrated, according to the Kansas City (Falling) Star, by three men in a maroon mini van. The identities of the three men were kept secret until one of their victims happened to work at the local radio station of a popular morning talk show host. Only then did we learn that they were three black men. He, of course, turned it into a segment and rightly so.
Apparently, the KC Star felt it was racist to publish the identities. I guess it's okay for "at large" criminals to be protected from racism while the rest of the population is kept uninformed.
If da race be
March 30, 2009 - 15:42 ET by SlicksterIf da race be white,write. If da race be black, hold da info back.
Slick
March 30, 2009 - 16:43 ET by BlondeKind of reminds me....." if red touches black, throw him back...if red touches yellow, kill the fellow".
Coral Snake? Or King Snake?
So, does this make me a racist?
I hope he fails, too.
More questions
March 30, 2009 - 16:35 ET by JWFDude? What is with the Mohammed name fetish?
I would make a joke but it was covered in An American Carol.
Sincerely,
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Don't anymore, but way back
March 30, 2009 - 18:26 ET by RR GOPDon't anymore, but way back when I used to watch local news I learned pretty quick what they meant by 'youths'.
"Three youths apprehended for raping a woman in her apartment."
"Youth arrested for armed robbery."
Would turn out these "youths" were black thugs...and judging by their mug shots were anywhere from something teen to twenty something. Never failed.
Others were "white males" or "Hispanic males", etc.
I guess they figured that stating their skin color/race would somehow stigmatize them in a way that showing their mugs wouldn't.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
I'll bet they get off
March 30, 2009 - 19:20 ET by Redrowan2000Well heres the scenario. Their attorneys, all CAIR funded will get them off with insanity or temp insanity pleas. Unless the victims were white. Then they'll be given medals, a parade and an apology.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red