LAT Torn: Do We Cover for Obama or Puff Pelosi? Let's Try BOTH!


The L.A. Times took upon itself a difficult task. The chore: to make it seem like Obama is in control of Congress at the same time that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is still a powerhouse there. The truth of the matter is that Barack Obama has revealed little influence over the Democrat majority in the House of Representatives but the Times wants to make it seem as if Obama is firmly in charge to puff his reputation. To do that, it would have to prove that Pelosi is taking a back-seat to the president. Yet, the Times also wants to show support for Pelosi. The resulting article is filled with one contradiction after another as it ends up attempting to say that both of them are in charge of the House. Quite a few journalistic back flips were made in the effort, too.

The L.A. Times headlined its piece, "Pelosi's role diminishes under Obama." This headline might tend to tell the reader that Nancy Pelosi has stepped back from her iron-fisted control of the House to allow Obama to push his agenda. Yet, even as the first six paragraphs of the piece starts that way, most of the article tends to dispute both the headline and the concept that Pelosi has relinquished any control at all to the White House. In fact, it says just the opposite, that she is just as firmly in control as ever, ceding nothing to Obama.

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In essence the Times tries to have it both ways, but a thoughtful review of the whole rather tends to say that Obama has had little control or influence, that Obama's so-called "post-partisan" Washington has died still born in Nancy Pelosi's House of Reps, and that the president has made little headway working with Congressional Democrats. Instead of a great relationship, a closer read of the thing reveals the rocky road between them instead. It is hilarious, though, watching the Olympics level gymnastics the Times engages in to try and make both Obama and Pelosi seem the hero here.

To set the table of Pelosi bowing to The One, the Times tells us that Pelosi is finding it "crowded at the top" with Obama taking office. The Times assures us that Pelosi is "discovering what it means to be back in a lesser role, with someone else setting the party's agenda and establishing its priorities." We seem to be learning that Pelosi is dutifully paying reverence to Obama's every idea.

Yet, after saying for six paragraphs that Pelosi is taking that "lesser role," the Times goes on to list all the ways she has refused to accept Obama's lead. The Times says that Pelosi is still taking a hard line against the Republican minority despite Obama's claim at wanting "bi-partisanship" and reveals that she and her caucus wrote the stimulus bill having purposefully excluded the Republicans.

That sort of blunt talk may reflect the reality in the House, where Pelosi has the power -- and the inclination, when she sees fit -- to run roughshod over the minority.

So, how is Pelosi taking any "lesser role" so that Obama can take the lead? Your guess is as good as mine because the piece never really proves that position. Instead of proving it is true, the Times goes off on airy pronouncements of Obama's "instinct for finding the middle" by quoting another one of those ubiquitous "experts" that the Media always rolls out in these puff pieces.

"Obama has shown an instinct for finding the middle, both to avoid being pulled too far to the left and to win enough Republican votes to pass anything in the Senate," said Don Kettl, a University of Pennsylvania political scientist and longtime Congress watcher.

No, what Obama does is claim he's in the middle without offering any "middle" policy ideas. Still, is is supposed we are being shown Pelosi and Obama's teamwork here. But, even as the piece rolls on we are treated to no examples of any actual teamwork. Only claims of the same.

The Times notes that Pelosi is not really laying down for Obama at all.

As such, the speaker is determined to protect congressional prerogatives and prevent Democrats from taking politically risky votes that could endanger their seats and weaken the party majority -- even if that means undermining Obama and sometimes thwarting his goals.

Then the tone of the article switches from one showing the "lesser role" that Pelosi IS taking, to one of speculation of the role Pelosi "could" take in the struggle for power between the president and the speaker. Basically, we find the piece ceding the point that Pelosi isn't really working with Obama after all.

That could leave Pelosi caught between the president, her longtime liberal allies and Democrats more to the right, though Miller, for one, said trying to balance those interests was not such a bad problem.

Wait a minute. This piece started off trying to spin us that Pelosi and Obama are working well together with Obama in the lead, then starts revealing that Pelosi hasn't relented any control at all, then starts talking about what might happen between Obama and Pelosi later? This article doesn't know what it wants to be about!

Next, we move on to the earnest proclamations of how well Pelosi and Obama like each other by Democrat insiders and administration hacks, but no actual proof that the two have achieved any actual progress as a team on anything.

And Finally, it seems as if the Times is realizing the pickle they are in. We find at the end of this mish-mash the Times offering a little friendly advice to remind the president and speaker that they should work together to avoid the problems that plagued Bill Clinton's relationship with his Democratic House leaders.

There is a strong incentive for Pelosi and Obama (and Reid) to make their relationship work: memories of 1993 and 1994, the last time Democrats controlled both Congress and the White House.

So this piece goes off in many directions at once without successfully defending any of those positions. The piece morphs as follows:

  • Starts out claiming Pelosi is taking a "lesser role" in deference to The One
  • Goes on to showing that Pelosi is not taking Obama's lead on anything
  • To Pelosi rejecting Obama's "bi-partisan" ideas
  • To "experts" saying that Pelosi's hardline could hurt Obama's agenda
  • To insiders saying they really, really like each other
  • To the Times' subtle warning that if the don't work together they could have a dysfunctional relationship like Clinton did with his Congress

If one were to read just the first six paragraphs, one would think Pelosi is giving Obama the lead. If one were to read only the next seven paragraphs one sees a Pelosi that has relinquished no power to the White House at all. The next thirteen paragraphs tell the tale of how Pelosi's "hard-charging" ways could hurt Obama's agenda. The next five tell of how much Pelosi and Obama like and respect each other. And the last three warn the pair that they'd better get their act together or trouble will result. And the whole mess puts the lie to the headline.

Talk about a mess! And that mess turns out to be Obama and Pelosi's relationship, the very relationship the L.A. Times tries so hard to spin as a positive one... and fails so miserably at doing.

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Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi are NOT Normal Humans

It is 'Normal Human Behavior' to join together to fight a 'Common Enemy' - in the case of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi - the 'Common Enemy' is the American Capitalistic free market and economic system.

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi are 'NOT' normal humans!

Both of them are afflicted with Narcisstic Personality Disorders and both hate anyone or anything which takes the Limelight away from them personally - they will NEVER actually get along with each other.

At best, the dynamic between them will be mutual hatred and fear of a backlash, should they openly attack each other.

Neither Barack Obama nor Nancy Pelosi would be saddened if the other was destroyed.

Nancy

She looks like the clown in a Jack in the Box toy, especially when she jumps up clapping during Obama's speeches.  The two of them deserve each other.

Gee, Warner, you're not

Gee, Warner, you're not suprised, are you? (Yes, I'm joking!)

This is the equivalent of all the "centrist" positions Obama is famous for...you know, despite the fact that he would leave a newly-born infant to die if the mother wanted to be rid of it.

Everything he does is described as "centrist"...from his policy positions to his cabinet picks.  

No one can convince me that Her Speakerness will be happy in the role of doing what Obama wants her to do.   Right after the election she recounted how she instructed the new President on what had to be done.  I can't remember exactly what it was, but she said she told him Mr. President we (or you) just can't do that.

(I'm assuming she used her famous self-described "mother of five" voice to set him straight about how things were going to be.)

So the LAT and the other sycophants will dutifully report that they "share" power and get along famously, even as they report the rifts.

This is going to be interesting.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi want 'Social Justice'


Social Justice means Socialism

Capitalism
by default, places humans in different 'Economic Classes' - self
determination and 'Hard Work', simply produces more than indolence,
'Play Times' and the life of a professional beggar (welfare).

Social
Justice (Socialism) wants 'Equal Outcomes' based on the theory that all
humans would do well, if given the proper Social Justice.

Barack
Obama and Nancy Pelosi, 'Hate America', not only because America is rooted
in the 'Rule of Law', but fits their theory that all 'Oppression' is
caused by the powerful.

Not only is America the most powerful
Nation in the world, but the rights Americans have, is predicated on
the inalienable rights granted by the Creator - God.

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi believe that not only is 'Man' the cause of all problems - 'Man' also can be the cure of all problems.

Some simple illustrations of that thinking, is 'Global Warming' and the 'War on Poverty'.

Barack
Obama and Nancy Pelosi think their Quest for Social Justice is so 'Noble
and Pure' that it should NOT be questioned nor criticized.

Barack
Obama's clarion call is that a true American Patriot should be willing
to 'Sacrifice for the Common Good' - even if that means giving up your
personally held values and property.

Obama and Pelosi are statists, among other things.

To them, the person is always subordinate to the government.

It is the Big Provider of all things.

They are two of the most dangerous public figures to have arrived on the public stage in America's history. Their goal appears to be to bring democracy and capitalism to their knees.

And, yes, I do mean that.

~Geek

Thought you'd like this...

Parable of the Isms

Socialism: If you have two cows, you give one to your
neighbor.

Communism: If you have two cows, you give them to the
government and then the government gives you some milk.

Fascism: If you have two cows, you keep the cows and
give the milk to the government; then the government sells you some
milk.

New Dealism: If you have two cows, you shoot one and
milk the other; then you pour the milk down the drain.

Nazism: If you have two cows, the government shoots
you and keeps the cows.

Capitalism: If you have two cows, you sell one and buy
a bull.

 

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

choselife3x Great Parable

Reminds of something my Grandfather used to say:

"Every rake deserves a chance to be stepped on repeatedly."

The headline should've read:

"L.A.Times' influence diminishes under Obama."

That'd be for how that rag has been exposed and continues to be exposed as one of anchors of the advocacy/adversary media group of thugs and thugettes who shill for Obama.

 

Wrong post. Wrong site.

  This belongs on Newsbusters' sister site NewsFantasies.

 "Inventive & Creative Fictional Media Pipedreams"

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Amateur Hour..........

 

        When the liberal left , Pelosi, Reid, etc., plucked this amateur senator to be the front man for the most powerful nation on earth, they thought he would a great "puppet on a string". In my eyes, it was like pulling a 7th grader out of class to do open heart surgery.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.– Thomas Jefferson

 

Understanding the leftist "mind"

It's frustrating trying to understand the leftist "mind." Normal people can't handle contradictions. Something either IS or ISN'T. The leftist "mind," on the other hand, can propose two contradictory things at the same time. In the leftist "mind," there are no absolutes, no absolute truth.

Maybe that explains why they are the way they are.

 

Cognitive Dissonance of Barack Obama

Cognitive dissonance occurs when someone tries to hold two diametrically opposed views as reality.

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Obama want us to buy American made cars to save the Autoworkers Union.

Obama doesn't want us to drive those cars so the planet can be saved.

Obama wants to spend money on bridges and highways that he doesn't want us to drive those cars on.

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Obama doesn't want a 'Secretive Intelligence Agency', so he wants a Congress who has a 9% approval rating to know everything Panetta is doing. You know people like Maxine Waters can keep secrets.

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Obama doesn't want little darlings like Islamic Terrorists to suffer any discomfort - Obama wants little defenseless babies denied any aid or medication if they have the Audacity to survive an abortion.

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Obama wants to punish excellence and reward failure, by transferring money from those who make good decisions to those who make bad decisions, all for the 'Common Good'.

I wonder when Obama is

I wonder when Obama is going to go all Clinton and start killing off folks in DC under mysterious causes?  Pelosi would be the first one to go.

"The President's a murderer.  You knew that, right?"  Norm McDonald SNL 

 

======================

I get the joke. 

It just isn't funny.

Brace yourself for the backlash of your ignorance.

Love Norm McDonald

Norm has a bit in his current stage act that goes something like this:

So, what's with these serial killers and their shallow graves? I mean, you spend all that time gathering plastic bags and rope, then you spend all that time stalking some chick, then you plan this whole murder thing and take all the time to carry it out. And then what... yer too tired to bury her in a proper, deep grave? You do a shallow one that ends up getting you caught?

She's a Dingbat

What's really disturbing about this 'Pelosi powerhouse' nonsense is that she's phenomenally stupid, and everyone knows it. Some on her staff have admitted that to the media, off-record. Yet yes, her office is powerful. That means that there are persons on her staff that really have the power, that are writing these bills that you just know Her Highness never reads. We don't know their names, and they are unelected. They are the powerful ones.

Warner. CBS poll on Pelosi

Warner (great catch on the story - my copy was still on the sidewalk when you posted this), naturally enough the LA Times didn't bother to mention just how popular Nancy Pelosi has become.

The piece (piece is a good word - it's certainly not journalism) suggests that Pelosi has, during her reign as speaker, "helped define what it means to be a Democrat." Really? Simon and Barabak are laying out their view of a "new Democrat," notably a left of socialist Democrat.

Perhaps the public has a feel for this - the few that know anything (and they are few, unfortunately). 

According to a recent CBS News Poll (Feb 2-4, 2009) her favorable rating was only 10%, with her unfavorable rating at 30%.  Needless to say (without looking) one would expect that the poll heavily favored Democrat and Independent voters over Republican voters . 41% haven't heard enough about Pelosi - the Speaker of the House of Representatives - to voice an opinion.

And these people are voting in national elections??

Yikes! gary

Nancy & Barackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Jessie R. Hamby        Nancy Pelosi is INSANE. I hope Barackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ( sorry, had a hairball.) sticks it to her.    Hmm, did that sound dirty? SO IS CONGRESS.