Conflation Junction: Tenn. Columnist Thinks Criminals and Madmen Obey Laws

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See, the thing that makes crazy people, well... crazy, is that they don't do things like normal people. Laws, rules, even simple human kindness is meaningless to such unbalanced people. The same can be said of criminals. See the thing that makes them criminals is that they don't obey laws. But the Memphis Commercial Appeal's Rich Locker seems to think making a law will magically make a wacko suddenly heed reason. On top of that, to illustrate his allusion he conflates the criminal actions of a man in Alabama to laws in Tennessee in order to justify his anti-gun sentiment for Tennesseans. Will these disingenuous Old Media types never learn a love of logic?

The tragic and criminal actions of the nut in Alabama that killed 10 people in a wild traveling rampage served as Locker's platform to advocate for a Tennessee law that would make illegal the carrying load guns in a vehicle. He seems to insinuate that such a law would have prevented the sicko in Alabama from driving around killing people. Locker neglects to reveal how some words on a piece of paper, though, could prevent a madman from transporting a loaded gun in a car.

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The opening paragraph is a perfect example of this conflation in order to draw out an emotional reaction in the reader.

Less than 24 hours after a man armed with two assault rifles, a shotgun and a handgun killed 10 people and then himself in Alabama, a Tennessee legislative committee on Wednesday approved a bill allowing handgun-carry licensees to carry loaded rifles and shotguns in their vehicles.

What does the Alabama incident have to do with the Tennessee law? Well, nothing really, but his conflating one with the other is a way for writer Locker to tinge the debate with negative connotations against the new Tennessee proposal.

But, the real nub of the matter is one of expectations. Could one expect that a law that says you may not carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in a car would necessarily stop all crazy people intent on mass murder from carrying a loaded rifle or shotgun in their car? Does Rich Locker imagine that a lunatic will load up for murder only to call the whole thing off once he gets to his car because a law says he can't carry a loaded rifle in the auto?

Really? Is he that absurd? That simple minded?

I wonder if Rich Locker ever rolled through a stop sign without having come to a complete stop? After all, the LAW says that one MUST come to a complete stop. Did the written law prevent him from that violation?

Still, while perhaps not being the sharpest tool in the shed, one does assume that Rich Locker can be expected to observe most of society's proscriptions and the state’s laws without too much worry. Presumably, Mr. Locker is not a criminal or lunatic.

But, even as we might expect Mr. Locker to be a fairly law abiding citizen we cannot expect as much from the insane and the criminal. Laws for them are only applicable when punishment is being prescribed. And, that being the case, it is clear that those same laws failed to prevent.

In other words, the laws that Mr. Locker seems to be advocating for will only restrict the rights of the law abiding yet will still not stop criminal actions.

And in all this Rich Locker is breaking another rule: that of good journalism. Sadly, instead of reporting, Rich Locker of the Memphis Commercial Appeal is advocating.


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Does Rich Locker imagine

Does Rich Locker imagine that a lunatic will load up for murder only to call the whole thing off once he gets to his car because a law says he can't carry a loaded rifle in the auto?

Of course he would!

After all, the "Gun-Free Zone" restriction was what prevented mass shootings at Virginia Tech.....oh, wait!

Never mind. -Emily Litella

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Gun Free Zone

Gun Free Zones work.  I saw it on the internet.  http://www.youtube.c...

LOL

LOL, good one.

D

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Laws only dissuade the reasonable

Laws are only followed when the person believes he/she is likely to be penalized for the action.  How many people actually obey speed limits?  It seems to me that most drive 5-10mph over the set legal limits.  Also, please explain to me how this law would have prevented a suicidal murderer from committing the act?  He knew there was no way to be penalized for his actions.  Also, I think it's ridiculous to make even more laws about what LEGAL items you are allowed to have on your PERSONAL PROPERTY.  What would this law really do as far as enforcement?  It would expand authority for search and seizure.  If it doesn't, then the law has no right to even discover whether someone is in violation without probable cause.

In the end, laws only dissuade those who think they will get caught or fear the punishment more than they would like to commit the crime.

Makes sense to me

Armed criminals will obey gun laws to the same ectent that tax cheats obey tax laws.

Why shouldn't our laws be written by tax cheating terrorists and lady killers?

Jesus Loves You

Well said.

On a more basic level, I believe it is --technically-- against the law to kill people in the first place.  That didn't seem to matter much, either.

~Even more basic

The difference between laws against murder and laws against guns, is that murder is inherently wrong and guns are neutral. They are neither good nor bad, they are simply tools. No point in trying to do away with a neutral tool in order to do away with what people sometimes do with it.

Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism

Agreed.

The point was, if someone's not worried about laws (moral or statutory) against murder, why would a gun law bother him?  It's the same silliness as hate crime legislation, making something that's already illegal double-extra-illegal.

Cold War

This reminds me, during the Cold War there were idiot left-wing cities that put up 'Nuclear-Free Zone' signs at their borders, perhaps hoping incoming Soviet missiles would see the signs and turn away. Just as irrational.

If  Mr. Lockers point is

If  Mr. Lockers point is that someone should do something to stop criminals or lunatics from going on murderous rampages, perhaps he should be pushing for fewer laws restricting handguns. If our killer had run across one well armed and trained person during the commition of his actions the body count would have likely been much lower.

More Guns = Less Crime  

     

Really !!!

Thursday, September 27, 2007

The Memphis metropolitan area, after coming in second last year, tops this year's ranking of metro areas by the rate of violent crime -- homicide, rape, aggravated assault and robbery. 

In addition, in 2008 Memphis ranked second in the nation in crime ....so where has this reporter been ????  

→ Memphis

Obviously the result of the high concentration of Elvis fans.

When you're walking in Memphis, and you hear footsteps walking behind you, I'm sure you're relieved when you turn and find it's a non-Elvis fan.

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