Governor Palin is in demand. Every newshound, every TV talking head, every newsertainer in the country is after her. She is being pursued for TV shows, book deals, movie roles, hounded by photographers and every hanger on in both Hollywood and the newsertainment industry. But the Associated Press wants to be sure you understand one thing: she is a FAILURE! That's right, in discussing Palin's current celebrity, the main concern AP has is to make sure you know she is a big ol' loser. The AP is so intent to remind you she lost that it has to tell you she lost over and over again. You know, just in case you were unaware she and McCain didn't win the election.
So, did you know Sarah Palin lost the election? Here, let the AP remind you (My bold throughout)...
Oprah wants her, and so do Letterman and Leno. Fresh from her political defeat, Sarah Palin is juggling offers to write books, appear in films and sit on dozens of interview couches at a rate that would be astonishing for most Hollywood stars, let alone a first-term governor.
Gosh. Fresh from that defeat and all? Imagine.
But, wait. Not to be outdone by the first paragraph, the second paragraph goes one better. It starts OUT telling us she is a failure.
The failed Republican vice presidential candidate crunched state budget numbers this week in her 17th-floor office as tumbling oil prices hit Alaska's revenues. Meanwhile, her staff fielded television requests seeking the 44-year-old Palin for late-night banter and Sunday morning Washington policy.
Now, the AP continues for a few paragraphs not mentioning her abject, ignoble failure, but just when you are lulled into a false sense that the AP wants to do anything other than constantly sling arrows Palin's way comes the 7th paragraph with a helpful reminder that she is finished as an effective politician.
Palin may have emerged from the campaign politically wounded, with questions about her preparedness for higher office and reports of an expensive wardrobe, but she's returned to Alaska with an expanded, if unofficial, title -- international celebrity.
Wow, I wasn't aware of all of that messy stuff about her, were you? Thank God the AP is here to enlighten us!
But wait, the AP wasn't content just to mention those messy issues. A few paragraphs later the AP has to bring them up again and expand on them.
In her two months on the national stage, Palin energized the Republican base but turned off moderates and independents, according to some surveys. Flubbed answers in national television interviews raised questions about her competence. She was embarrassed by the disclosure the RNC spent at least $150,000 for designer clothing, accessories and beauty services for her and her family.
And, just when you thought that all the Palin smears were to come only from the AP, guess what? AP found an "expert" to bash her, too. I know, imagine that, right?
"She has to deal with the perception that she bobbled her debut," said Claremont McKenna College political scientist John Pitney. "She needs to stay home for a while. If she wants a future in national politics, her No. 1 job is doing a good job as governor."
In other words, Johnny wants Palin to shut up and stay in Alaska and above all not to try and keep her profile up!
But, not to be left behind by other bashers, the AP gets one last shot in. Palin is painted as a shirker.
Just this week, shortly after conducting a string of national TV interviews and skipping a state education conference, she was scolded by the Anchorage Daily News.
This "story" by the AP is twice as long as it needed to be because it is stuffed with needless harping on her "failures." But this piece does reveal one thing quite clearly. The Associated Press simply cannot fathom why anyone would want to interview Governor Sarah Palin. Not only that, but with the constant reminders that she lost the election, the AP wishes to ingrain upon the reader that she is unworthy of the acclaim and celebrity that has come her way.
But, let me give the AP a few reasons that Sarah Palin might be worthy of the curiosity. She only excited the base of the largest part of a national political party that has held the reins of power on and off since 1980. She brought out thousands of excited voters at every appearance she made on the campaign trail. She thrilled and invigorated a party convention that was sure to have been moribund and boring.
Millions of votes, AP. THAT is why she deserves to at least be given a shot to be heard, a shot that you and your media cohorts did their level best to stifle.
So, AP, let me introduce you to Governor Sarah Palin.
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Well, if the AP is
November 22, 2008 - 12:28 ET by ConservativeRexWell, if the AP is reporting it you know it's lies and half-truths. I'm not worried about anything the AP writes.
All the AP is, is the PR arm of the Obamiacs.
And frankly, Sarah didn't lose this election. You know who lost the election...my friends. The AP has to whistle pass the graveyard concerning Sarah in the hopes that she doesn't come back in '12 and kick Obami's ass. That's all this is.
If she does come back in '12 she will boot his sorry ass. That is what scares the AP the most. So don't fret over anything they write.
I doesn't know nuthin' 'bout
November 22, 2008 - 12:36 ET by Warner Todd HustonI doesn't know nuthin' 'bout no frettin,' but it is my job to point it out.
;)
She's in good company,
November 22, 2008 - 13:25 ET by motherbeltShe's in good company, Warner...AP did the same thing to Romney. I knew I remembered seeing it here; finally found the link.
Tom Blumer blogged about it back in May....
Romney was "former Mass. Governor" but "failed Republican Presidential candidate."
Claremont McKenna
November 22, 2008 - 12:39 ET by allanfAren't the Claremont- McKenna Colleges the schools that dedicated “a day of solidarity and teaching,” in honor of Professor Kerri Dunn who frauduenlty claimed her car had been vandalized in a hate crime?
Dean David Oxtby said:
I do believe that's the one.
November 22, 2008 - 12:39 ET by Warner Todd HustonI do believe that's the one.
Palin Authority
November 22, 2008 - 12:41 ET by allanf.. and so AP quotes a Claremont-McKenna Professor as an authority in an anti-Palin peace without many mention of the biases of the college.
I believe Kerri Dunn received a jail term.
WTH and allanf
November 22, 2008 - 13:13 ET by MrShyAnother doozy....
"In her two months on the national stage, Palin energized the Republican base but turned off moderates and independents, according to some surveys."
Yeah, I'm sure those are "some surveys" alright.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
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November 22, 2008 - 13:21 ET by motherbeltdelete
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November 22, 2008 - 17:49 ET by JRJ08...
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November 22, 2008 - 17:50 ET by JRJ08...
She will boot his sorry ass?
November 22, 2008 - 17:48 ET by JRJ08OK. Admit it. You're really Tina Fey just trying to keep your shtick going, right? Or John Stewart pulling our collective legs. In six months, Sarah Palin won't even be front page news in Anchorage, Alaska-- unless it secedes from the Union. But you are right about who lost this election. It was definitely John McCain who gave in to the GOP ideologues and agreed to put Palin on the ticket. That cost him the election. I've posted this question here on NewsBusters many times, but only received sarcastic non-responses. How do you explain the fact that noted conservatives such as Kathleen Parker, David Brookes, Peggy Noonan, Scott McClellan, Christopher Buckley, George Will, Susan Eisenhower, Colin Powell and Ken Dubenstein walked away from McCain, citing his selection of Palin? And, after that, do you think any of the moderates in what remains of the Republican Party would allow her to come anywhere near '12?
JRJ... Those very people
November 22, 2008 - 17:53 ET by bigtimerJRJ...
Those very people you mentioned are not real conservatives to me...and never have been, I am just glad all of them came out of their shells for all to see in the msm light, one way or the other.
In fact, it made my day as they did this one by one...I have been waiting a very long time.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The same way JRJ,
November 22, 2008 - 18:50 ET by IamTinmanThe same way JRJ, that noted conservatives that you didn't mention didn't walk away. Conservatives don't all walk in lockstep.
After 4 years of the "Messiah" the party might just decide that Sarah Palin is what the country needs. Maybe it'll be Bobby Jindal or someone else, but the reaction of you libs and the media to Sarah Palin tells me she's got something that's got you dems running scared about an election still 4 years away!
Why did Obama run anyway if he's going to pick an administration full of Clintonistas?
Didn't the same AP report
November 22, 2008 - 12:48 ET by kgDidn't the same AP report that voters should not vote for the Vice Presidential candidate but instead only for the Presidential one? Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
This is the real story headline they should have used
November 22, 2008 - 12:55 ET by legacyrepublicanThe real story headline they should have used ...
Sarah Palin, who helped her ticket steal and plunder 55 million votes away from Pres. Elect Obama's victory total, won't go away anytime soon enough for him. Will the Hawaiian beach walking dreamer be ready and able to handle a real one on one contest against a tough no nonsense candidate who can shoot, gut, clean, and grill moose for lunch?
The scumbag MSM is so scared
November 22, 2008 - 13:04 ET by stancoyleThe scumbag MSM is so scared of her and what she can do to unite the GOP that they will continue to try and tear her down until the next election season starts. Then it will get really bad!
PDS?
November 22, 2008 - 13:05 ET by BiasedGirlThey can't stop writing about her, but She's a Failure? Hardly...So tell me what has Joe Biden been up to since the VP debates? Was he even invited to the Obama-Celebration in Chicago?
http://www.withbias.net
Palin Should Take the Attitude
November 22, 2008 - 13:07 ET by allanf.. it doesn't matter what they say so long as they spell the name correctly.
Failure
November 22, 2008 - 13:55 ET by ScrapironDidn't I just read that the Ass ociated (with terrorists) Press is laying off workers. Could that be because they are failures? They are still playing the political game of 'projection' while dying on the vine. I don't know about anyone else but I no longer believe one word attributed to the AP since they have proven to require a fact check on every article.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Reuters is reporting that
November 22, 2008 - 13:17 ET by Rush FanReuters is reporting that the Associated Press plans to cut 10 percent of its workforce in 2009.
A recent Zogby poll shows that 72.6% believe the news they read and see is biased. Perhaps by the time Gov. Palin decides to run for higher office, biased AP reporters such as Michael Blood, and other reporters who fail to be fair, accurate and balanced will no longer have jobs as reporters of the news.
By the way Mr. Blood, Walmart is hiring!
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I like Sarah Palin...
November 22, 2008 - 13:10 ET by doepackAnd I hope she comes back with a vengeance in 2012. But in the meantime, I think she should shun the limelight for awhile, and focus her energies on family and state, in that order. Oh, and in case she or members of her staff haven't done so already, I hope she tells (or has told) Oprah to shove her request for a guest appearance up her over-exposed, narcissistic, duplicitous, wanna-be-demigod behind...
Sarah & Oprah
November 22, 2008 - 17:13 ET by mom_roxThe only way I think Sarah should agree to an interview with Oprah is if Oprah and her entire production crew travel to Alaska for the show - make them spend money in Alaska and promote Alaskan tourism.
I agree with you that Sarah should focus on state issues for the time being. Maybe Oprah could go to Alaska for the Iditarod or go in summer for some halibut and salmon fishing.
It actually might turn out well for Sarah because Oprah cannot risk coming across too snarky.
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Hi mom-rox... I'd rather
November 22, 2008 - 17:37 ET by bigtimerHi mom-rox...
I'd rather Sarah demand they do the interview from ANWR...after she has given her the whole tour of the area with a promise that all of the area is broadcast on television, including interviews of people that work their.
Then on to the lumber mills that are closed, and show the dead beetle killed timber....that the greenies would not let be salvaged, let alone stopped via cutting before it spread through whole areas.
Let Oprah and crew spend their own time fishing ect...if they want to show that on a later show, great...and like you say, no matter where they go, it will generate money...which is a good thing. ;-)
Just my thoughts.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
then take them to
November 22, 2008 - 17:55 ET by katainkentthe turkey farm and have them assist on the lines. Then they can all sit down and have some Thanksgiving together and enjoy the turkey... oh wait, this turkey.. or this turkey.
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Only if OPrah
November 22, 2008 - 19:04 ET by IamTinmanOnly if Oprah goes to ANWR in the summer when the mosquitoes, the black flies, and the nosee-ums are thriving and get in your eyes, ears, nose, and mouth so bad they can make you choke!
Or in the wintertime when the area oil companies want to drill in is virtually empty, all the birds have migrated south, and all the larger animals have headed to the mountains or are hibernating!
I read through some of the
November 22, 2008 - 13:16 ET by winston smithI read through some of the AP stories on the Hillary as SoS in the coming Obama administration and as you might expect, there are NO references to the "failed presidential candidate", no references to "failed presidential run", or ".....Clinton emerged politically wounded", etc., etc., etc. On the other hand, look at how worked up the AP gets when it comes to reporting negatively on Sarah Palin a VP candidate, how they are almost obsessed with insuring that she remains politically unviable. They are so transparent it's actually funny.
I waswondering the same
November 22, 2008 - 21:46 ET by HermanoI waswondering the same thing, WS. Thank you for doing the research. I have decided that it is, indeed, the obamAPress, and will be writing it thusly in the future.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
→ What gives here?
November 22, 2008 - 13:21 ET by Cool ArrowApparently the MSM is so sure of Hussein's continued buffoonery that they must divert attention to manufactured stories.
David Letterman has been going on and on about how horny he is for Gov. Palin, and the crowd loves it.
I say we get a show for Larry Sinclair so he can tell us nightly how wonderful it was to speak into the Presidential microphone.
Katie Couric
November 22, 2008 - 14:01 ET by ScrapironCouric had to sit there and listen to the fool rant about having the hots for Palin while he ignored her. I just about pee'd my pants laughing at how ironic that was. Maybe Couric can rebuild her career if she admits (Like Barbara Walters) to servicing every world leader she talked to. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Old, Retired and glad of it.
More Woman than Couric
November 22, 2008 - 14:40 ET by BW222Sarah Palin is more woman than Catty Katie Couric ever dreamed of being.
BW222
And Katie Couric has more
November 22, 2008 - 15:49 ET by JRJ08And Katie Couric has more brains than ten Sarah Palins. But, you're right. We should have voted for her just because she's pretty.
Cheerleader Katie
November 23, 2008 - 00:36 ET by BW222Yes, Katie was a cheerleader. I bet you have the tape of her colonostopy. Judging by the ratings, Cutie Katie is so shallow that even the libs don't watch her.
BW222
Did I miss something. It
November 22, 2008 - 13:27 ET by Jack BauerDid I miss something. It was McCain who lost the election for President, right?
Since when did the losing VP on the ticket become the "failure"?
The only campaigns Governor Palin was responsible for in her name, SHE WON.
The philosophical direction of the AP
November 22, 2008 - 14:00 ET by IamTinmanThe philosophical direction of the AP is glaringly obvious, but it's just an extension of the coverage Sarah Palin got throughout the campaign.
Governor Palin really has two choices if she has further political ambitions. Stay in Alaska and wait for the other senatorial election, or head for the rubber chicken circuit.
Oh isn't it just precious
November 22, 2008 - 14:22 ET by bigtimerOh isn't it just precious that Oprah wants her to grace her stage now, along with the rest of the creatures that did nothing but denigrate her...
I hope while she is getting all this national attention, she is laughing all the way to the bank... wink, wink...you betcha'!
She'll be baaaack...and I am going to LMAO!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
That's so odd!
November 22, 2008 - 14:31 ET by northoneI guess I'm missing something here. When I voted on November 4, it was John McCain's name on the ballot, not Sarah Palin. Wasn't it the AP saying in October that no one votes for the VP - it's the head of the ticket that gets the vote. I'm so confused!
Another Beth column?
November 22, 2008 - 14:36 ET by BW222Was this another Beth Frouhy AP article? That homley b#tch has been after the day McCain announced his selection.
The good news is the AP announced a 10% layoff yesterday.
BW222
That Zany AP Crew
November 22, 2008 - 14:46 ET by rammingspeedFun to watch, those APers. What's really fun is knowing the torture they're feeling because of Sarah Palin's success. Their guts are churning and burning, their brains are exploding from the hatred pouring through every nano particle of their bodies.
I know, my schadenfreude is not nice. But I can't help enjoying watching the APers get theirs.
This is also proof that liberals can never, ever be happy. They just gleefully drank from the biggest Republican/conservative blood bath they'll ever see; they control everything. But what winds their crank? Sarah Palin is popular.
Geez.
The Associated Press, aka Pravda
November 22, 2008 - 14:51 ET by JRJ08It's AP's job to report the facts. If you watched the turkey interview given by Sarah Palin, you must have asked yourself why it was covered by the national news services. I mean, it was just an innocent little photo op. The thing is, how many interviews does this person have to give, butchering the language and striking a blow for mediocrity, before people accept the fact that she makes most high school cheerleaders sound like they have a doctorate in English Literature. Every time she opens her mouth, she confirms the fact that she cannot speak a single coherent, complete sentence, and is unable to articulate the syllable “ing”. In this particular interview, she tries to sound politically savvy in her folksy, illiterate kind of way, but comes off like Leo Gorcey from the old Deadend Kids serials. Of course, the turkeys being slaughtered in the background aren’t the issue. It’s the idea that she was so totally oblivious to what was going on right behind her and how it was so disconnected from what she was yammering about. It was a classic metaphor of her world-view. A complete lack of awareness. If Palin ever wants to be taken seriously in national politics, the first thing she’ll have to do is go back to high school and take a few English and public speaking courses. Maybe some World and U.S. history classes would help, too. A couple of semesters studying georgraphy wouldn’t hurt, either. Unfortunately, there is no course that will correct her intellectual impairment. And the college that gave her the degree in Journalism should lose its accredation immediately. This woman is a walking traffic accident and right now the whole country is rubbernecking, hoping to catch her next slaughtering of the language. That is the only reason any of these talkshows want her. She delivers an audience. A dumbed-down audience who adores a loser, but an audience nonetheless.
→ Have some SPAM JRJ.
November 22, 2008 - 15:09 ET by Cool ArrowAm I imagining things, or are you spamming multiple threads with the same post?
Is it possible to untie lydsexics?
November 22, 2008 - 15:45 ET by JRJ08If "spamming multiple threads" dulls your point and puts a knot in your thong, Cool Arrow, then I have achieved my objective.
→ Not really JRJ
November 22, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Cool ArrowI'd rather you didn't fantasize about me in a thong. Please direct your erotic fantasies back to Michael Moore and Rosie ODonnell.
Love it! I am a
November 22, 2008 - 18:37 ET by TexasOptimistLove it!
I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself.
→ Nothing original Toptimist
November 22, 2008 - 19:16 ET by Cool ArrowAll you did was agree with somebody else.
Sorry, but you're still not exhibiting an ability to think for yourself.
The jury is still out as to whether you're even willing.
The clip about Palin
November 22, 2008 - 21:22 ET by andophiroxiaI love how the news assumes people are stupid. MSN had this big label that this interview was held right after a turkey pardon, but when you really hear the questions, it was regarding oil policies and general politics, not turkeys. It was in the middle of the interview like they CUT it there. It was extremely obvious.
Also, if you watch the dude take the first turkey out the legs and head area aren't blurred out, yet the 2nd turkey was even though the first grinder/hopper thing didn't even show the first turkey's head and it was enough to cover the 2nd turkey's head so there was no gore or any other obvious crunching noises.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Hey JRJ...I'll give you
November 22, 2008 - 15:11 ET by bigtimerHey JRJ...
I'll give you the same response I did to your exact same post you have here on another thread, the Pardoning Turkey thread.
Btw...what are you doing, putting the same post everywhere, what the heck for, don't you have any original ideas that come to you with each blog spot/thread?
Seems to be trollin' if this is all you do here at NBs.
November 22, 2008 - 13:54 ET by bigtimer
JRJ...
You may want to tell Ted Kennedy the same thing, talk about one who slaughters speech...of course with the msm why he is the roaring lion of the Senate...give me a break...so the heck what if she doesn't suit your fancy for how she doesn't put emphasis on "ING".... there are plenty of other politicos in the same boat.
By the way, you may want to apply the same agenda to the so-called journalists everywhere regarding whoever gave them their so-called degree...seems to me we would have a lot of colleges lose their accreditation if this is the case.
I do not agree with Palin on every single thing, but this example you use here sure isn't one of them.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I thought it was obvious...
November 22, 2008 - 15:35 ET by JRJ08I see no reason to be surreptitious here and what I'm doing is fairly clear. The overtly amorous posts in this and other blogs about Sarah Palin are in dire need of an opposing view-- better known as a reality check. Even the heads of the RNC want nothing to do with this moron, yet you people continue to swoon over her and attack anyone who points out the facts. She makes the Villiage Idiot look like Einstein and just about everybody on the planet knows that except you. Point fingers at me all you like, but the number of people who take this woman seriously is shrinking on a daily basis.
JRJ... Wow, you are quite
November 22, 2008 - 15:46 ET by bigtimerJRJ...
Wow, you are quite the piece of work, you don't know me or how I feel about Palin, at all.
You may want to do your homework little one, before you open your mouth, you may also want to read exactly what I posted to you and comprehend it.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Anybody who quotes Rush
November 22, 2008 - 16:46 ET by JRJ08Anybody who quotes Rush Limbaugh in their signature doesn't warrant a response. You got my point.
JRJ... Well now... it
November 22, 2008 - 17:06 ET by bigtimerJRJ...
Well now... it looks like you responded, now didn't you little one.
Poor baby.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
JRJ
November 22, 2008 - 17:29 ET by cocodrieJust got home and read your rant. You sure are one unhappy and hateful little woman. Better come up for some air. living in that cesspool of hatred is going to destroy you.
JRJ has some issues...
November 22, 2008 - 21:30 ET by andophiroxiaI have seen SO many clones of this type of troll it isn't funny. I'm sure MOST of them are different people, but they say the same crap over and over again.
They come here, take the time to get registered, go through the waiting period to spew crap like this. If they're happy with the damn Obama election, then why do they act so hateful? Sure, they say it's gloating, but happy people don't gloat. If they were satisfied, they'd say something other than, "You jerks are all lame and your candidate sucks." or "Your candidate is _____. Hope they run in 2012 so we win again!" Don't they have a life? The campaign is OVER. We have no idea what the future holds.
I don't go to left wing sites to give them comments, why? They're not going to change my mind as well as well as I can do theirs. I didn't go there when Bush won at all. It was a waste of time. I could have been scrubbing my toilet and eating potato chips for lack of a better activity. I was living my life. I guess with liberals they have to act like spoilt children until someone smacks them across the mouth.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
JRJO8 DisGorged this Comment - "Anybody who quotes Rush
November 22, 2008 - 20:30 ET by Rush FanLimbaugh in their signature doesn't warrant a response."
I hope you are a lady of your word.
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Rush
November 22, 2008 - 20:35 ET by bigtimerRush Fan...
Priceless.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
LOL!
November 22, 2008 - 21:31 ET by andophiroxiaGood one!
However, how do you know IT is a lady? Although, I'm sure there was ranting on its part before. I guess I never cared to really read too much into it.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Afternoon, bt,
November 22, 2008 - 17:27 ET by R D HelmI think what JRJ08's problem is is that Obama is turning out to be a know-nothing empty shell (real surprise there) who is utterly clueless about most everything.
Let's face it, this man did not reach his current position because of his qualifications, but due to the color of his skin, as well the deep pockets of his main benefactor, America-hater # 1, George Soros.
He is going to show himself to be more incompetent than even Jimmy Carter, and deep down, the lefties like JRJ08 know this, but will never admit it.
That is one of the reasons they are going after Palin with such vehemence.
The other is that they know she is going to be right there in 2012, and this time, shw won't be ham-strung by a liberal like John McCain.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Even the heads of the RNC
November 22, 2008 - 17:17 ET by R D HelmEven the heads of the RNC want nothing to do with this moron
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but most of us here want the current heads of the GOP to be tossed out on their behinds.
And given what we now know about the average Obama voter's intellectual abilities (government-educated people like you) anyone who is as big of a supporter of his as you are needs to be really careful referring to others as morons.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Wink wink! I am a
November 22, 2008 - 18:38 ET by TexasOptimistWink wink!
I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself.
TO... Your tag-line is
November 22, 2008 - 19:27 ET by bigtimerTO...
Your tag-line is pure B.S.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
→ That's funny bt
November 22, 2008 - 19:35 ET by Cool ArrowFunnier still is that TO was sitting around one day wishing he could think for himself and JRJ08 came along and typed him up a tagline.
Riled One... LMAO...now
November 22, 2008 - 19:42 ET by bigtimerRiled One...
LMAO...now that post of your was priceless after today.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Is JRJ the jerk that TO was
November 22, 2008 - 19:49 ET by cocodrieIs JRJ the jerk that TO was playing with?
coco...
November 22, 2008 - 19:52 ET by bigtimercoco...
;-)
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
JR...I love reality
November 22, 2008 - 20:39 ET by Clear thinkerJR...
I love reality checks, so here's one for you... You are a Village Idiot! You woman hater.
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I’m wondering…
November 22, 2008 - 15:21 ET by needle…What is behind “JRJ08”? An AP’er wondering where his next job is going to be?
Just wondering…
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Hi needle... LOL...I
November 22, 2008 - 15:34 ET by bigtimerHi needle...
LOL...I would not doubt it one bit.
He fits the bill.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Loser?!!! She has won EVERYTHING
November 22, 2008 - 15:25 ET by choselife3xThat she has personally run for you ignorant a$$.
As for the background, people in Alaska know where meat comes from and it is no big deal. That was where the camera was set up. So freaking what! Should she have asked them to move so squeamish liberals wouldn't be offended by the cycle of life? I thought liberals believed in Darwinism.
Obama makes in idiot of himself everytime he tries to ad lib. Doesn't know the difference between Sandford and Son and the Jeffersons (ad lib) makes a nasty attempt at a Nancy Reagan sneer AND screws it up (ad lib) and on and on and on. AP asks him a foreign policy question and his response is "I ordered the corned beef". 'The President-elect doesn't know a foreign policy from a hole in the wall'. Way to prove it Obama! He can't say anything that isn't written down for him. No class, all A$$. Palin has him beat by a mile in every category.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
So freaking what should end with a question mark...
November 22, 2008 - 15:42 ET by JRJ08You mean like governor of a state with 200,000 whole voters who don't pay any state taxes and get annual "spreading the wealth" check from the oil companies? Gee willickers! She must be a winner. Do you really think nobody but Alaskans know where "meat" comes from? If I was really interested in what you looked like, I would look up "a$$" in the dictionary and there would be your picture. The fact that you seem to think Sarah Palin is smart and Barack Obama isn't speaks volumes about the working order of your cerebrum. In fact, it is so absurdly upside down that it warrants no further responses.
You know JRJ... You are
November 22, 2008 - 17:12 ET by bigtimerYou know JRJ...
You are one to talk about Sarah and the English Language, let alone spelling, punctuation and grammar, while I didn't finish school, I got my GED later, you are a poor example of the very subject you are critical of.
It is obvious you are an O supporter, lost in the world of looney-ville, just another lemming who drinks the Kool-Aid...take big gulps...you are more than going to need it on down the road.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
JRJ,
November 22, 2008 - 19:20 ET by IamTinmanJRJ, I'm willing to bet you the kids meal of your choice at your local Burger King that Sarah Palin if asked could tell you exactly how many states there are. We all know how many Barack thinks.
Of course we might know a little more about "The chosen One" if we could see his college thesis or his transcripts or even his birth certificate but he seems to be reluctant to go public.
JRJ
November 22, 2008 - 21:37 ET by andophiroxiaActually the Alaskan constitution (yes every state has a constitution) says that every Alaskan OWNS every bit of the oil underneath the ground. The oil companies then essentially lease the oil from underneath the ground FROM all the Alaskans and that is invested in the stock market. The profits of that are then distributed amongst the Alaskan people because they all own an equal part of it. In any other state, if the oil company had the land, then they would own all oil rights beneath the ground they owned.
It would be socialism if the government controlled it and interfered with it in any way. In this case, the Alaskan people profit directly from their investment of what they own--just like any other investor.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Oh please...
November 23, 2008 - 12:31 ET by JRJ08The last time I checked, Alaska was part of the United States. It hasn't seceded yet, despite Todd's efforts. The natural resources being taken out of the ground there are owned by the companies who lease that land and invest in the equipment that gets the oil. If Alaska is going to take hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks from the federal government, then it should share its oil graft with the other 49 states, rather than operate like a sovereign socialist state.
More share the wealth JRJ
November 23, 2008 - 12:46 ET by cocodrieSend me some of your income so I can share your dollars. Don't be a sovereign socialist.
Really?
November 23, 2008 - 13:10 ET by Warner Todd HustonAnd your proof for saying that Todd wanted to secede from the union... ah, silly me. How could I so easily forget that you are a liar?
Then again, for a one like you that thinks a great VP candidate is a guy that says FDR went on TV in 1929 to buck the country up about the stock market crash and had to steal some of his papers and speeches from others because he is incapable of writing his own.
So, a liar AND stupid. A great one two punch ya got there fella.
Damn them Commie Californians!
November 23, 2008 - 13:36 ET by CobraMan"If Alaska is going to take hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks from the federal government, then it should share its oil graft with the other 49 states, rather than operate like a sovereign socialist state."
I can't believe that, like Alaska, the citizens of California are allowing the oil companies to rape their lands and steal their oil from places like Kern County which, by itself, has 50 oil fields!
If California is going to take TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars in earmarks from the federal government, then it should share its oil graft with the other 49 states, rather than operate like a sovereign socialist state, wouldn't you agree?
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
And your point is, what exactly?
November 23, 2008 - 13:23 ET by CobraMan"200,000 voters who don't pay any state taxes"
The "voters" (they're called citizens here in America, comrade) of Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, or Wyoming don't pay any state taxes ether. New Hampshire and Tennessee apply state taxes only to income from interest and dividends. So, what is your point?
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
wow
November 22, 2008 - 15:55 ET by katainkentI am not a huge Palin fan, but you have bought every talking point hook line and sinker.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
There may be hope for you
November 22, 2008 - 16:48 ET by JRJ08There may be hope for you yet.
that I should invest
November 22, 2008 - 17:13 ET by katainkentthat I should invest the time and energy to inform myself before making decisions? Why thank you.
I will be rooting for you to do the same.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
Obama, worst president in the history of man
November 22, 2008 - 17:29 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsPerhaps . . .umm. . errr. . . Palin could . . . er . . . ummm. . .take. . . ummm . . . speech. . . uhhh. . . errr.. . .lessons from . . . the . . . .ummm . . . .errr mast. . .uhh uhhh master. . . umm... . .orator . . .uhh. . . uhh .Obama,
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Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
DFTT,
November 22, 2008 - 17:41 ET by R D HelmYeah, but at least he got the corned-beef part right. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
RD - hot pastrami is much
November 22, 2008 - 22:27 ET by HermanoRD - hot pastrami is much better - a little spiced mustard and - ummmmm.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Dontfeed
November 22, 2008 - 17:55 ET by littlemissmuffinAbsolutely brilliant post!!! ROFL
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
These right-winger love to
November 22, 2008 - 18:38 ET by TexasOptimistThese right-wingerz love to jerk off whenever they see her.
I have more discriminating taste when it comes to women!
I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself.
Optimist
November 22, 2008 - 19:06 ET by misterbillYou seem obsessed with self-gratification. I guess a really attractive lady like Sarah puts the fear of God in you. Well, keep your hand down in your pants, it will keep you happy and also protect you from women in the limelight.
Try using your left hand - your Palin hating comments come from that side!!!!
misterbill,
November 22, 2008 - 19:46 ET by R D HelmROFL!
Now he's TexasBurntToast. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Paragraphs?
November 23, 2008 - 00:40 ET by BW222Written by a loser who has no idea what a paragraph is.
BW222
Failed Candidate Kerry
November 22, 2008 - 15:00 ET by allanfCan anyone find an AP Story that referred to John Kerry as a failed candidate for President? Or one that referred to Al Gore that way?
Oh the hubris! So is Al
November 22, 2008 - 15:27 ET by rbosqueOh the hubris!
So is Al Gore.
Mr. Huston and
November 22, 2008 - 15:58 ET by TEMr. Huston and Newsbusters:
When writing about something written by the Associated (with terrorists) Press or any other like-minded political advocacy group, please, please, please include the name of the person who wrote the piece. The name of the person who wrote this editorial is Michael R. Blood. Again, the author of this editorial is Michaeal R. Blood from the Associated (with terrorists) Press. I think it is just as important to identify the political activist who writes such bilge as it is to identify the political advocacy group that employs said political activist. Thank you.
oops
November 22, 2008 - 16:15 ET by katainkentdoh. wrong article window ;)
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
News Flash to AP - You're The Failures
November 22, 2008 - 16:57 ET by New Jersey ConservativeWhenever I read or see the MSM report anything we all must have John Zogby's poll that was commissioned by John Ziegler etched in our memory. If the MSM was even remotely fair and accurate Obama would not even been nominated.
The voting public attibuted things that Tina Fey said satiring Sarah Palin to Sarah Palin and had no idea who Bill Ayers is, or Obama saying he had been to 57 states, or that he had all of his parties opponents taking off the ballot ala Chicago thug style, or that he sponsored infanticide bill in the Illinois Senate and on and on.
not only failed but gaffe-prone
November 22, 2008 - 17:19 ET by mom_roxHere is a Daily Mail article (byline changed from Adrienne Agg to Mail Foreign Service) which falls all over itself pointing out the negatives of Palin.
Speaking of failing, I left a comment to this article but it never posted. I have no idea why.
The Axis of Taxes: Obama, Pelosi and Reid (source unknown)
Palin is a putz
November 22, 2008 - 18:34 ET by TexasOptimistI am still completely baffled by all the Palin idolatry. She is a complete moron, and you guys all jerk off to her daily.
No wonder the GOP is doomed.
"I did not leave the GOP. The GOP left me."--Texas Optimist, 2008
I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself.
Circle Jerk Time
November 22, 2008 - 18:37 ET by TexasOptimistLet's go!
I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself.
→ TO
November 22, 2008 - 19:38 ET by Cool ArrowBorderline original, but You're ripping off David Letterman who expressed a similar interest.
Still not exhibiting an ability to think for yourself.
TO... Listen jerk, take
November 22, 2008 - 19:44 ET by bigtimerTO...
Listen jerk, take your jerking comments elsewhere.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Chicken jerk
November 22, 2008 - 19:33 ET by jaywlJerk is a style of cooking. You apparently like jerking so much it is on your mind and you think it is on the mind of others. Not so, please do your jerking privately.
A bad case of potty mouth there, eh, TexasToast?
November 22, 2008 - 19:39 ET by R D Helm-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
texop
November 22, 2008 - 21:23 ET by misterbill"I am a conservative who is willing to think for himself."
Please, please, start soon!!!
Palin didn't fail
November 22, 2008 - 19:30 ET by jackie3I found the AP's constant failure to use proper terms when referring to former candidates annoying. No other candidate is constantly bashed the way Palin is. There is no reason for it and the news is just going to drive that bias rating up to 90 percent.
In my case, it was Palin that was my deciding factor. McCain was always too moderate even for me. (And I'm moderate). Palin, I could relate too. I could admire her strength and resolve even in the face a out-right verbal attacks by the media. I voted for McCain because of Palin. If McCain had chosen another "good old boy" I would have voted Libertarian or Independent party.
This woman has courage! She is far from stupid despite the media's best efforts to portray her as such. remember, it's Obama who doesn't know how many states are in the union. Who constantly spoke the wrong names of cities during his tours. Who speaks volumes about absolutely nothing.
Palin is a breath of fresh air in the world of politics. No nonsense, tough and still a lady. Doesn't come across as rude Rosie and her ex-View pales. Palin is still being hounded because she has class. far more class than most celebrities and far more class than Hillary Clinton.
Remember how the media loves Hillary? Now how many citizens love Hillary? She never made it to even be the Dem nominee but the news never say that she "failed."
The AP is failing to acknowledge people in this country are indeed ready for change. Just not the type of "change" the communist media is flaunting.
Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Hmmm If Palin decides to run in 12
November 22, 2008 - 20:03 ET by shawn228I wonder if the "most likely" male GOP candidates. running against her will use her interviews or gaffes against her. I'm sure they will be total gentlemen.
He had my vote
Right shawn...they
November 22, 2008 - 20:05 ET by bigtimerRight shawn...they don't ape their leftist brethren.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Wouldn't the GOP
November 22, 2008 - 20:08 ET by shawn228be considered rightist brethren?
He had my vote
Just depends
November 22, 2008 - 20:16 ET by bigtimerJust depends shawn.
...there are the RINO bretheren too.
Whatever suits your fancy.
Leftist brethren works for me, and I am sure you got my point in the first place...right?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I'm not sure if I did bt
November 22, 2008 - 20:24 ET by shawn228I was not sure if you were trying to bring the conversation back to the democrats, but then I thought, well than can't be it because most likely Obama will get the nomination unchallenged in 12, so I ruled that out.
So, I'm sorry I was not smart enough to get it the first time..
He had my vote
Don't worry about it
November 22, 2008 - 20:26 ET by bigtimerDon't worry about it shawn..no biggie.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Good Evening Shawn
November 22, 2008 - 20:31 ET by cocodrieThe GOP ian"t into fratricide like the dems are.
Good evening cocodrie
November 22, 2008 - 20:34 ET by shawn228So it was all good sportsmanship between Romney, McCain and Huckabee?
He had my vote
That's politics Shawn,
November 22, 2008 - 20:40 ET by cocodriebut at least their bodies weren't found under a tree in the park or by the railroad tracks in Little Rock.
Well Cocodrie
November 22, 2008 - 21:07 ET by shawn228Your right, politics is a dirty game and imo it is equally vicious on both sides.
I'm afraid that I really do not want to go down the bodies under a tree road...sorry.
He had my vote
shawn... Your
November 22, 2008 - 20:40 ET by bigtimershawn...
Your scenario/comparison was using Palin/women...and you know it.
Now you are changing the situation, rather conveniently too.
You knew exactly what I was talking about...I just hope coco does see through this all.
Later...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt
November 22, 2008 - 21:06 ET by shawn228I swear that unless you were talking about how democrats act toward one another, I had no idea what you were talking about.
Coco is the one that did a direct comparision between Dems and Republicans. I brought up Romney because Palin was not in the GOP primaries. I have turned over a new leaf and if you are trying to pick a fight with me, I want no part.
He had my vote
Oh brother...what a twist
November 22, 2008 - 21:17 ET by bigtimerOh brother...what a twist and spin, I am sorry I ever replied to you...either just go back and read from the beginning of your first post and comprehend what I posted back or don't..you have been the one twisting, deflecting your original post and mine back to you.
Don't give yourself so much credit shawn...I have better things to do than go back and forth with an attention seeker like you...been there, done that.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hmmm, If Palin decides to run...
November 23, 2008 - 13:59 ET by CobraManHmmm, If Palin decides to run in 2012, I wonder if the AP will continue its biased reporting and continue to print blatant slurs against her? That's the real issue here, the fact that a "reputable" news source, one used in hundreds of newspapers across the US, is EXTREMELY biased against a particular candidate simply because of his or her political affiliations.
The AP is willing, and even eager, to use derogatory statements and descriptions in order to denigrate the personal character and/or accomplishments of a candidate of which they do not support, past or present. This "politically wounded," "failed Republican"" description is but a brief prelude of what 2012 will bring when Obama runs for reelection.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
I'll always be grateful to
November 22, 2008 - 20:18 ET by RR GOPI'll always be grateful to Senator McCain for picking Sarah Palin, whether she runs again or not.
That speech she gave at the RNC was priceless-she burned a certain Obama orifice big time (Fred Thompson didn't do half bad, either).
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Larry Elder was taking a look at her popularity...
November 22, 2008 - 21:42 ET by andophiroxia...because he's had friends that either blame her, call her stupid, etc. etc. So, he took a look at the timeline in general regards to Palin.
I think if I remember right from his show, Time even wrote about how the Obama campaign derailed for a bit due to her being introduced. The spotlight was on her, not him anymore. Not only that, the donations to the campaign skyrocketed.
Elder thinks the economic crisis did McCain in, because he was actually surging for a bit before then.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
double post?
November 22, 2008 - 21:49 ET by andophiroxiaI don't know what happened. I think my browser just burped.
Even though you discredit
November 23, 2008 - 12:42 ET by JRJ08Even though you discredit yourself with your admission that you think GWB was "a great president", I'll go a step further. If you think Sarah Palin actually wrote a single word of her convention speech, then I'd like to sell you some beachfront property -- in Alaska. Actually, it's an island, but you'll be able to see Russia from your kitchen, which will make you a foreign policy expert. And, by the way, John McCain did NOT pick Sarah Palin to be his running-mate. It is a well-known fact that Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol visited her back in 2007, during their Alaskan cruise. They then had Bjork, Morris and a few other RNC bigwigs visit her, and it was they who put her name in the hat. John McCain simply followed the orders of his party and, without any vetting, named a total idiot as his running-mate. The only times Palin sounded like she had half a brain was when she was reading off a teleprompter or from prepared notes. Obviously, her intense training as television sportscaster prepared her for the rigors of national office. As far as George Bush is concerned, he will go down in history as the worst president. Saying that you think he was great speaks volumes about your critical skills and standards.
→ So last year
November 23, 2008 - 12:52 ET by Cool ArrowSpeaking of total idiot running mates, you have yet to explain whether you believe black children in DC are genetically stupid, or you believe they are culturally inferior.
You see, JRJ, I only ask because you're attacking the losing ticket and finding no fault with the winning ticket.
Now, explain why Joe Biden's claim that black children are inferior students is something you don't need to address.
Are you as racist as Joe Biden? Obviously Obama had no problem with Biden's statement, so he believes it also.
→ Wow JRJ!
November 23, 2008 - 16:00 ET by Cool ArrowI figured by the time I got back from church and watch a half of the football game you'd at least say something in defense of the black children of Washington DC whom your choice for VP (Joe Biden) labelled inferior.
But no, you slink away to other comments you feel more comfortable dealing with.
It's obvious how both you and Joe Biden feel now. So keep up your tirade against Sarah Palin, but it doesn't hide your true feelings about race in America.
You don't like Palin
November 23, 2008 - 13:02 ET by CobraManYou don't like Palin, we got that, but you're exposing your bias against Republicans in general , and your "liberal" roots in general, when you continually denigrate her intelligence while ignoring her successes.
Sarah Palin is far from the idiot you portray her to be. You don't rise up from relative obscurity and become first a mayor and then a governor by being stupid. The mere fact that you continue to berate her tells me that you think she's a real threat to Obama in 2012.
Oh, an you may think that Bush was a failure too, but 2, count them: 2, terms in office does not a failure make. But don't let reality get the way of your biased opinions of Republican leaders like Palin and Bush.
You may go back to your anti-conservative rantings now.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
Its long past time for this racist, idiot troll to be banned.
November 23, 2008 - 13:10 ET by R D Helm-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
JRJ08
November 23, 2008 - 14:10 ET by MrShyYou're a complete buffoon, as are about 57 million others in this country, duped by the criminal media's full-court-press propaganda engine, put in high gear this election season to thoroughly discredit the GOP ticket.
Meanwhile, the democrat ticket, with the filthy MSM and corrupt organizations like ACORN under it's wings, was pushed through and will be occupying the White House come January 20th. It stuns all of us here on the right side of the aisle, because these two -- Obama and Biden -- have to be the biggest jokes to ever win a Prez/VP election. EVER.
Biden is the most thick-headed dunce who reeks (to anyone with an ounce of good instincts about people) with old-politics sleaze. He seems less believable and trustworthy than a bad used-car salesman, and the only success on his resume is winning the same tiny state over and over, that goes Democrat by default anyway. He's a washed-up, stupid, do-nothing crony DC politician.
As for Obama, you've heard it all already, but you're completely blind to any of it even though all the evidence is there. He has ZERO qualifications and was ushered through because of the color of his skin, period. He's also not very bright at all and has nothing on his resume, not to mention he's the FURTHEST THING from "change" or going against "politics as usual". He's a total fabrication of something new/outside-the-beltway. He's a dime-a-dozen politician, all the way, 100%, courtesy of the low-life Chicago political machine. Oh, not to mention, he has no integrity whatsoever, and has only exhibited extremely poor decision-making and judge-of-character skills (and you know the long list already.)
Meanwhile, Palin is the most authentic breath of fresh air and a TRUE DC-outsider, who's incredibly smart and driven and an amazingly successful governor. She also rose to power completely on her own and not the coattails of any person or group/organization.
Bush, while flawed and not the most eloquent speaker, is a fine man and is/was a very good president. Again, as with Palin, the MSM has been stealth in its efforts to totally cover up all the good he has done -- and there is a whole heck of a lot -- and it's disgusting. The man has integrity and was probably the perfect, strong leader this nation needed after 9/11. I shudder to think where we'd be if Gore was in charge after that horrible tragedy. He has made this country and the world safer from radical Islam, has done a yeoman's job in cleaning up good chunks of the Middle East, has been applauded for his amazing compassion and tireless work in aiding the poor and hungry in Africa, kept our economy on an even keel for several years post-9/11 (which was an achievement), and unemployment remained at relatively low levels throughout his presidency, around 6 - 6.5 %.
But to a fool like you, they're losers, and the two clowns who won on November 4th -- no thanks to any legitimate qualifications or abilities or integrity or smarts of their own, and all thanks to the machines around them determined to get them elected -- are astoundingly off-limits to derision.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
He's gone and done it. He's
November 23, 2008 - 14:11 ET by Jack BauerHe's gone and done it. He's roused the Sleeping Giant Shy!
Note I said "roused" and not "aroused."
liberals are COMPLETE dunces
November 23, 2008 - 14:18 ET by MrShyHey Jack, thanks!!
Yeah, I've had enough. Idiots, all of them. Birds of a feather... they adore totally horrible, phony politicians, and crucify the clearly more-qualified ones.
Go figure. :p
Ideology aside, really. If the GOP had candidates this awful -- and yes, I mean, much worse than McCain as far as qualifications, for one -- I'd probably vote Democrat (if it wasn't super-left, like Obama is.)
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Shy
November 23, 2008 - 14:26 ET by choselife3xThank you. That was perfect.
Unfortunately reason and common sense are wasted on sheeple like JRJ08, but the rest of us appreciate your post.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I was right about you,
November 23, 2008 - 14:26 ET by JRJ08I was right about you, too.
So much anger, so little
November 23, 2008 - 14:27 ET by Free StinkerSo much anger, so little smarts.
JRJ If you have ever been 'right'
November 23, 2008 - 16:15 ET by choselife3xAbout anything, you certainly haven't posted it here.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Does your nose grow when you post here?
November 23, 2008 - 14:58 ET by JRJ08I wasn't going to respond to this juvenile post in any detail, because most of it is just hot air escaping. But some of your comments here are fairly astonishing. This "very good president" you mention, will go down in history as the worst of our 44 presidents. What he has done is degrade the liberties that are provided for in our Constitution, led us into a totally unjustified war that has cost us billions of dollars and thousands of lives, and he has made us the least admired and respected nation on the surface of the planet. And, unless you have a crystal ball installed in your ass, you have no idea what Gore might have done. At least Gore was a legitimate veteran. Bush has presided over the greatest decline of the economy in our country's history and appointed people whose gross incompetence gave us things like the debacle in New Orleans. He's the man who chose a total incompetent to be on the Supreme Court, or have you forgotten Harriet Myers? You call people "fools" while proving yourself to be one. Especially when you say that Sarah Palin is "an authentic breath of fresh air". My God, the woman hasn't the brains of a high school drop-out, and she proves that every time she steps in front of a microphone without the aid of a teleprompter. I will admit that we've seen nothing like her before in national politics. Nobody that ignorant has even been chosen to be on a national ticket. My opinions of Palin have not come from journalists, the evil "MSM", or talking heads reading the news. They have come directly from Palin's own mouth. If you've understood any of her incoherent sentences, then maybe you should apply for the job of interpreting for her, because she sure needs it. And, while you're at it, you might advise her that when she states in an interview that she's giving a pardon to a turkey, it's not a brilliant idea to say later in the same interview that she's going to take that turkey home and feed it to her brood on Thanksgiving. As far as Joe Biden is concerned, there are many Senators from your side of aisle (or trench) that disagree with your ham-fisted assessment of his character and abilities. But, then again, you're not here to deal with the facts. Just your hateful ideology, which isn't even attuned to your own political party. You might ask yourself why people, such as Peggy Noonan, George Will, Kathleen Parker, Scott McClellan, Christopher Buckley, Colin Powell, Brent Skowcroft, David Brookes, Susan Eisenhower, and Ken Dubenstein would disagree with just about every word of your post. But, of course, you would never do that because their answers would be too painful for you to contemplate. The McCain/Palin ticket lost this election for two reasons: John McCain and Sarah Palin. The sooner you and the GOP make an honest effort to understand why those 57 million Americans rejected them, the sooner you'll get your collect heads out of your ass and put up a candidate capable of winning an election. Until then, all your blowhard diatribes and absurd insults are just spitballs against a battleship.
JRJ08
November 23, 2008 - 15:11 ET by MrShyI'm not going to read a paragraph this long. No sane, intelligent person would. Sorry.
Try again.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
You think I actually
November 23, 2008 - 16:25 ET by JRJ08You think I actually expected you to read it?
→ You said a lot
November 23, 2008 - 16:31 ET by Cool ArrowBut you still won't defend the black children of Washington DC against the racist insults of Joe Biden.
Still clawing away at a failed Presidential ticket, and not even the top of the ticket.
Now that we've seen your one trick, it's gotten boring.
BTW, I think TexasOptimist is looking for a new tagline. Can you help him out?
LOL ... Hi
November 23, 2008 - 16:44 ET by bigtimerLOL ...
Hi MrS...
...can you believe he had the audicity yesterday to make fun of Palin and her college education...ect ect ect...
Don't know if you caught those posts between us, he is such a troll...another one of those, do as I say, not as I do.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
hey BT :)
November 23, 2008 - 18:18 ET by MrShyYeah, didn't follow yesterdays threads, but I'm familiar with JRJ... unfortunately for me and all of us. :p
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
JRJ Creature from the black cesspool
November 23, 2008 - 15:05 ET by cocodrieJerking everyone's chain with your filth. Your attempts to appear intelligent have failed miserably.
Shy & coco, I now believe that JRJ08 was/is an abused child.
November 23, 2008 - 15:16 ET by R D Helm-Most likely its the latter.
What is even worse is that his/her/its parents probably sent him/her/it to a government school, which I suspect he/she/it is quite possibly still attending, or was recently "socially promoted" out of, which might explain the "08" as in "Class of 08."
What a hate-filled, misguided, utterly uneducated person this is.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Good evening RD
November 23, 2008 - 15:22 ET by cocodrieI think you're right - mentally at least. I quit discussing with him, he is consumed with hate. His mind is a cesspool.
A moron attempting to be
November 23, 2008 - 16:26 ET by JRJ08A moron attempting to be clever...
And you are failing at
November 23, 2008 - 16:48 ET by Free StinkerAnd you are failing at it.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Look, horse-squeeze for brains...
November 23, 2008 - 16:53 ET by R D Helm...I am not the one in here supporting an educated-beyond-his-intelligence former street rabble-rouser with a professional resume' that would fit on a postage stamp, who sat in a hate-filled church surrounded by rabid racists for twenty years, whose presidential campaign was financed primarily by a man who hates this country with a purple passion, who cannot even put together a coherent thought without a tele-prompter in front of him, who willingly associates himself with a man who, to this day, refuses to show any remorse whatsoever for his former terrorist activities and who also dedicated a book to the murderer of RFK, who supports the murder of children even after birth, and who has been espousing the major points of the most destructive, inhuman, murderous form of government in recorded history.
YOU are the moron.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
→ Interesting RD
November 23, 2008 - 16:59 ET by Cool ArrowHe doesn't refute the child abuse observation.
That may explain why he's such a liberal. Let's not talk bad about his Uncle Ernie.
Cool,
November 23, 2008 - 17:06 ET by R D HelmYeah, I noticed that, too.
Sad, really.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
→ Yeah, RD
November 23, 2008 - 17:09 ET by Cool ArrowI think he prefers "Punky" to "buffoon"
He's never complained about us calling him "Punky"
Cool,
November 23, 2008 - 17:22 ET by R D HelmMaybe we should call him Tommy.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
RD Helm
November 23, 2008 - 17:19 ET by MrShyThanks! I'm too much of a buffoon, according to the brilliant JRJ, so I relinquish the doofus troll smack-down duties to you from here on out.
You are certainly the best equipped in terms of eloquence. :)
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Shy, who, me eloquent?
November 23, 2008 - 17:36 ET by R D HelmLOL-Hardly. I'm more of an in your face, tell it like it is guy.
'Sides, if any of my five college English profs were to see that post of mine, they'd flunk me on the spot, as that has to be the longest run-on sentence ever posted anywhere. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
→ Failed attempt
November 23, 2008 - 16:52 ET by Cool ArrowInasmuch as the attempt was not intended for your mastication, it's not surprising you didn't understand the comment, hence your state of missed gist.
JR...
November 23, 2008 - 17:04 ET by Clear thinkerHow about a history lesson for you...Obama The Next Great Communist Leader?
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Ct 3 or 4 video links of yours , "no longer available"
November 23, 2008 - 18:03 ET by upcountrywaterI did see the great leap forward, very 0bamish
DEMOCRAT
Aclu</
ucw... Thanks for the
November 23, 2008 - 18:10 ET by Clear thinkerucw...
Thanks for the heads up. I'm on my way to see what the heck happened.
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What are you,"like" 12?
November 23, 2008 - 15:08 ET by general companyYour post are quite the exsample of why many of us think the left is insane. You realy should educate yourself a bit, "might" help you from continuing to make a compleat ass out of yourself . Feel free to ignor my advice though,,,
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
JRJ, do us a favor. Fly to Alaska, put on and elk costume...
November 23, 2008 - 17:47 ET by R D Helm...and hang around the outskirts of Sarah Palin's neighborhood.
At least you will be able to say you saved at least one real elk from catching the inevitable bullet. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Lol Dave
November 23, 2008 - 18:53 ET by shawn228Looks like the troll fuse is pretty short today huh? ;-)
He had my vote
Brilliant! A most eloquent
November 23, 2008 - 16:29 ET by sherylsimsBrilliant! A most eloquent rant MrShy! Thank you for saying it all for me. I couldn't have said it any better than that!
all this personal hate
November 23, 2008 - 14:20 ET by katainkentwhy?
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
I first came onto this site
November 23, 2008 - 16:30 ET by JRJ08I first came onto this site a week ago and posted an opinion about Sarah Palin that was less than positive. It was like tossing a bleeding cow into the Amazon. You ask "why the personal hate"? Read some of the things people have posted here. I resisted calling people names as long as I could, but when you have "buffoons" calling you a buffoon,...
→ Buffoons
November 23, 2008 - 16:35 ET by Cool ArrowSomebody called you a buffoon?
Why, that's an outrage.
You have every right to eat worms. Carry on.
JRJ if you don't like it here
November 23, 2008 - 16:53 ET by choselife3xYou have our permission to get up and leave the table. Take your plate with you and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
If you do decide to toss any more bleeding cows in, we prefer Angus.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I love red meat! Throw some
November 23, 2008 - 17:01 ET by Clear thinkerI love red meat! Throw some cows my way.
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That explains why your
November 23, 2008 - 19:13 ET by JRJ08That explains why your thinking is so constipated.
Seriously... how old are
November 23, 2008 - 22:31 ET by Clear thinkerSeriously... how old are you? My guess, no more than nine.
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alright I will read.
November 23, 2008 - 22:08 ET by katainkentso... I try not to pay too much attention to the heated conversations. I find that people who come to this site with their minds made up tend to find solace only in the worst of arguments and since I don't feel comfortable with that realm of discussion I tend to stay clear.
But you're interesting in that you seem to hate Palin so much you'd think she had broke off a long term relationship. This is what some people I know have done after a really bad breakup. Its not enough that THEY hate someone, they have to make sure everyone else does too.
So I took your suggestion and read back
So, after reading your short collection of posts I would have to surmise that you are a troll. Firing up the flames and deliciously returning fire when they come to roast you. You were the bleeding cow, not only by choice - but by design. Now you can play the wounded soul to your hearts content and have free license to call names to any who approach.
I would guess this is why it is generally recommended people not feed the trolls.
member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008
→ Excellent dissection
November 23, 2008 - 22:13 ET by Cool ArrowAnd JRJ08 felt every cut.
Astonishing
November 22, 2008 - 21:09 ET by Dennis DDencal
AP thinks its " Astonishing" for a 1st term Governor..
What about a 1st term US Senator ? Don't they think his celebrity was over the top?
Is it any wonder...
November 22, 2008 - 22:44 ET by BobAnthonyWhy Rush calls the AP AP-Obama!
WE GET IT YOU HACK JOURNALISTS AT THE A-P! BUT JUST WAIT, JUST WAIT!
For the record, I am NOT RECOGNIZING BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ODINGA AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! I would like to become part of a
secession front!
By all means, move to
November 23, 2008 - 12:45 ET by JRJ08By all means, move to Alaska. But if you see a helicopter flying over head, run for cover, because it might be your governor who has run out of wolves and polar bears to shoot.
JRJ08 do you have a CLUE
November 23, 2008 - 15:25 ET by choselife3xWhy they shoot wolves in Alaska? Wolves ARE NOT ENDANGERED in their state. They have a very healthy population which the residents control so the moose herds don't get wiped out. Moose/caribou is a staple of Alaskan diet. What should they do, starve? Do you have any idea how expensive imported meat is there? Should they have to struggle 10 miles across the snow in subzero temps to the grocery store or shoot a winter's worth of meat in their backyard? Would you want a pack of hungry wolves milling around waiting for you and your children to come out because they've eaten all the moose? Idiot.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
What is this? Wild Kingdom?
November 23, 2008 - 16:54 ET by JRJ08Your question makes two presumptions: that I don't know anything about wild-life in Alaska, and that I have never been a hunter. Neither are true or relevant to my point. I've eaten moose, caribou, antelope and venison, and I come from three generations of hunters. Not everybody who disagrees with you people is a member of PETA. The point is that Sarah Palin ran for national office in a country where the majority of people no longer think shooting animals from a helicopter is an admirable past-time for a politician-- especially when said politician doesn't have to hunt in order to eat. Now, you and your party can go right ahead and ignore that, just like Palin did, and your candidate will never win a national election. OK by me. You win the battle, and lose the war. As far as the cost of imported meat in Alaska is concerned, I think most citizens can afford it considering they have no state tax or local property taxes to pay, and receive an annual stipend from oil companies. My property taxes alone are $7,000/year.
→ Link please JRJ
November 23, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Cool ArrowCan you give us a link to the story where Sarah Palin has shot a Polar Bear?
Not that I mind, I'm just checking the honesty of your post.
Has Sarah Palin shot any wolves
November 23, 2008 - 17:27 ET by choselife3xFrom a helicopter? I'd love to see a link to that. I don't think any Alaskans see shooting wolves as an 'admirable pastime'. It is simply what must be done to maintain the moose population at a level that can support the locals. As governor Mrs. Palin protected the citizens right to provide for their families.
Sarah Palin ran for Governor of Alaska. She was INVITED to join the Republican ticket. She almost dragged that RINO across the finish line but he reached across the aisle, got his arms chewed off and bled out before she could drag his lame carcass across.
Why don't you show us the stats to back up your claim that Alaskans are so flush with cash?
You know, eating a moose from your backyard is far more 'green' than shipping dead cow from 1,000 miles away. Why aren't liberals cheering all those 'locavore' Alaskans?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
JRJ
November 23, 2008 - 15:37 ET by MrShyYou really are an *ssjack, spewing liberal, no-nothing nonsense all over our beloved site. We've been here before with moron trolls like yourself. We're fed up.
You're a clueless, politically-correct, MSM-shaped zombie who knows next to nothing about things beyond what you're bombarded with by the media all around you daily.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Could it be that I've gotten
November 23, 2008 - 16:55 ET by JRJ08Could it be that I've gotten under your thin, pale white skin?
scorecard
November 23, 2008 - 17:01 ET by Free StinkerShy: 1
JRJ: 0
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
→ There you go again
November 23, 2008 - 17:03 ET by Cool ArrowYou're the one who stays quiet while Joe Biden makes his racist remarks. Still agree with him, do ya?
As for me, I'm proud of my
November 23, 2008 - 17:07 ET by Clear thinkerAs for me, I'm proud of my pale white skin. Are you?
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How about your empty
November 23, 2008 - 17:09 ET by JRJ08How about your empty cranium?
You're not talking to the
November 23, 2008 - 17:13 ET by Free StinkerYou're not talking to the mirror, you're typing on your computer.
→ Free
November 23, 2008 - 17:19 ET by Cool ArrowIt's sad what he'll offer to gain acceptance.
JRJ08, thin skinned democrat wanna be..
November 23, 2008 - 17:29 ET by upcountrywaterI thought of you when I made my tagline..
DEMOCRAT
Yea yea you say you are not a democrat, but your rants say it loud and clear.
Maybe if you study hard, you can have a good life being a card carrion
Aclu</ zombie
You're the one who isn't a
November 23, 2008 - 19:16 ET by JRJ08You're the one who isn't a democrat. You're just an angry idiot who is pissed off that a black man is going to the White House. You people all need to go see a shrink.
jrjo8, you're just a name caller, that's all u got. LMAOROTF
November 23, 2008 - 19:48 ET by upcountrywaterI didn't vote for Obama because he is like you a
DEMOCRAT
denocratS Killed Lincoln, started the KKK ...
THIS PAGE I LINKED WAS WAS TYPED BY A BLACK GUY!!!
Look everyone jrjo8 has a job with the following..
Aclu</
jrj ooo eight!!! he's the guy on the LEFT, blammo ....
You are a DUD usless eater.
Times short spew some nasty stuff Troll... hurry.
Good evening country
November 23, 2008 - 19:57 ET by cocodrieDidn't you know jrj has the only naturally occuring vacuum inside her head?
COCO, nature abhors a vacuum
November 23, 2008 - 20:11 ET by upcountrywaterIf jrj is a woman then she is a lesbocrat. she sure likes calling me names...
if one drills and taps her vacuum, an intake generator could be installed to produce energy..maybe enough to run a vacuun cleaner..poof <turn sound off> sluuuurppp...
DEMOCRAT
Aclu</
country LMAO
November 23, 2008 - 20:21 ET by cocodrieIt has to be an extremely young girl yanking our chain. Can't possibly be a man or woman. Maybe a chimp who learned to type?
ucw... I think I have all
November 23, 2008 - 20:07 ET by Clear thinkerucw...
I think I have all those links fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up!
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Ct!! It's ok if Youtube Fred is now your narrator
November 23, 2008 - 20:19 ET by upcountrywaterdang it Fred speak slower
DEMOCRAT
Aclu</
ucw... LMAO!!! Oooops,
November 24, 2008 - 00:12 ET by Clear thinkerucw...
LMAO!!!
Oooops, I sure wish I knew how to fix that one. Maybe people could listen faster?
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Are you related to Sarah
November 23, 2008 - 20:13 ET by JRJ08Are you related to Sarah Palin?
Wow. You're really
November 23, 2008 - 20:15 ET by Free StinkerWow.
You're really getting desperate now, aren't you?
JRJ
November 23, 2008 - 22:37 ET by choselife3xAre you related to Joe Biden?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
'You're the one who isn't a democrat'
November 23, 2008 - 20:11 ET by choselife3xYou say that like it is an insult!
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Empty cranium? Heck, I've
November 23, 2008 - 20:00 ET by Clear thinkerEmpty cranium?
Heck, I've forgotten more stuff in my life than you will ever learn, little boy.
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JRJ ?
November 23, 2008 - 17:21 ET by MrShy"Are you on drugs?"
- My Cousin Vinny, 1993
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
JRJ... For your info.
November 23, 2008 - 17:29 ET by bigtimerJRJ...
For your info. according to Sarah herself, she has only shot caribou, and then the family goes to a place about an hour from their home in Wasilla, and it depends who drew the tag that year...no moose, no wolves, no polar beer, plus deer are few and far between there, you have to go to certain places to get those.
Geesh...check out your facts before opening mouth.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hey bigtimer - you got any
November 23, 2008 - 18:26 ET by HermanoHey bigtimer - you got any of that polar beer for me?!? Sounds yummy. For my own part, I am still waiting for that JRJ08 idiot to respond to Biden's racial remarks and 0bama's tacit approval of them.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Hey Herm...Come on
November 23, 2008 - 18:37 ET by bigtimerHey Herm...
Come on up...the more the merrrier!
Polar beer is outside staying icy cold...I'm about to open one pretty soon..
Cheers!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I'll wait for your erudite
November 23, 2008 - 19:56 ET by JRJ08I'll wait for your erudite analysis.
Came up from your cesspool little girl?
November 23, 2008 - 20:08 ET by cocodrieYou can't impress people on this site with two-bit words you looked up in the dictionary.
I simply await your answer
November 23, 2008 - 23:30 ET by HermanoI simply await your answer to the question that has been asked of you no less than 20 times - do you or do you not renounce Biden's racial remarks? Believe me, it is purely intellectual curiosity that has me hanging on the edge of my seat.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Take some reading
November 23, 2008 - 19:54 ET by JRJ08Take some reading comprehension courses before you open yours. I've never said that Sarah Palin shot wolves or "polar beers". You people are just like Palin. You distort reality, then criticize your own distortions. "Geesh"-- is that an Eskimo term?
Bah bah moonbat, have you any bull?
November 23, 2008 - 19:56 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full !
JRJ if your attention span is that short
November 23, 2008 - 20:24 ET by choselife3xyou can always go back and READ YOUR OWN POST. "an admirable pastime for a politician". If that didn't mean Sarah Palin who, pray tell, were you referring to?
Why can't 'you people' talk straight?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Palin? No Comment
November 23, 2008 - 10:30 ET by PopularTech...
Censored Global Warming Videos
More AP channeling
November 23, 2008 - 12:47 ET by CobraManThe AP is channeling again. In this case, they're channeling John Edwards, a true "politically wounded" failure.
Hay, AP, Palin is STILL a governor. How's Edwards doing these days?
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
→ JRJ08 Final Thoughts
November 23, 2008 - 20:06 ET by Cool ArrowHaving given JRJ08 multiple opportunities in this thread to denounce and renounce the racist opinion of Joe Biden concerning black school children, we can honestly conclude JRJ08 agrees with Biden's claim that black school children are either intellectually, or culturally inferior.
Strange, isn't it, that in the same thread JRJ08 tries to deflect his obvious racism by claiming other posters in the same thread are guilty of it?
Think this through with me. Obama/Biden have already won, and JRJ08 has nothing to lose by speaking out against Biden's racist words. Yet JRJ08 refuses to respond to Joe Biden's indictment against black school children.
So if at some later time JRJ08 finds it convenient to address the issue, please remember he refused to stand up when it really counted.
Instead, JRJ08 used what little talent he had to call the Governor of Alaska stupid.
You really are the Village
November 23, 2008 - 20:19 ET by JRJ08You really are the Village Idiot here, aren't you. You sound like you actually believe the sewage that you spew out on that computer. If you people are any indication of the psychological state of the Republican Party, then the U.S. can kiss its two-party system good-bye for a long time. I hope that's not the case. It's more likely that you're just an aberrant fringe group of neo-nazis who ran out of money and can't spend the day at the local tattoo parlor. This is has been amusing, but I've gotten bored with the schoolyard mentality and wannabee bullies. What a dreadful blog and what dreadful people. While the rest of the country moves forward, you are firmly entrenched in the 19th century. Good luck.
You still haven't denounced
November 23, 2008 - 20:22 ET by Free StinkerYou still haven't denounced Biden's racist remarks.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
→ Really weak JRJ08
November 23, 2008 - 20:29 ET by Cool ArrowYou are now painted into your own little racist corner.
We know why you think the way you do. You have to feel superior to somebody. And Joe Biden has given you permission to feel superior to African Americans.
Your failure to make a clear statement against racism doesn't surprise me at all.
No, I take that back. You could have lied about it and said you think Biden's words are dispicable, but in keeping with your own code of honor, you didn't. Because that would be dishonest of you.
JRJ... How
November 23, 2008 - 20:33 ET by Clear thinkerJRJ...
How dreadful!
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Free, Cool & Ct, remember when Planned Parenthood...
November 23, 2008 - 20:53 ET by R D Helm...was caught encouraging someone to donate money to support the the abortions of black children a while back? At the time, Planned Parenthood said this was a "serious mistake" on the part of the employee who was actually caught doing it.
I don't think it was a "mistake" at all.
It appears this practice of eliminating the children of minorities (the Negro Project) was started in 1939 by the very founder of Planned Parenthood.
I wonder if our clearly racist troll has a response to this?
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
→ Not likely RD
November 23, 2008 - 21:04 ET by Cool ArrowSome movements are more successful when their original intent is blurred through a screen of benevolence.
Thus it is with Planned Parenthood. JRJ08 may be a follower of Margaret Sanger. The silent adherence to conviction would certainly suggest it.
It's more likely that
November 23, 2008 - 20:35 ET by R D HelmIt's more likely that you're just an aberrant fringe group of neo-nazis
Ah, yes, the obligatory nazi charge. I just love to hear that ludicrous charge come from a supporter of Marxist totalitarians like JRJ08, here, given that Marxism and Nazism are practically joined at the hip ideologically.
While the rest of the country moves forward,
You mean, while the rest of the country stumbles blindly backward into the freedom-starved, dirt poor Marxist hell-hole that this nation will eventually become under the direction of Barrack Hussein Obama's puppeteers, George Soros and Bill Ayers.
You are a seriously sick, twisted basket case of a mentally-ill human being, and quite possibly one of the most brainwashed, unintelligent trolls I have ever encountered on the threads of NB.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
→ Spit on a griddle
November 23, 2008 - 20:39 ET by Cool ArrowYup, when they trot out the "nazi" stuff, you know they got nuthin' left.
JRJ
November 23, 2008 - 20:39 ET by MrShyI apologize for calling you a buffoon.
Doesn't mean I don't still think you're one.
:)
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Time to cool down, folks
November 23, 2008 - 23:19 ET by Warner Todd HustonFolks, it's time to cool this shout fest down. Let's take a step back from feeding the troll for a while, shall we?
JR108
November 23, 2008 - 23:19 ET by shawn228Hi I'm shawn another token liberal around here. Just a bit of advice. I thought you were doing great until you went the name calling route and pointed out the double standard.
That argument does not work here my friend, you never start name calling back or you it will lead for you make alot of enemies.
This a is a conservative site and I have accepted you have to play by their rules. Some of very good debaters and give an excellent POV, some unfortunately will deflect the topic and turn it into a name calling match.
and I also notice that you are not the the usual libs we have around here. I notice you give very good points unlike the most I have seen. Bush Lied , people died.....blood for oil, born will a silver straw and rest of the talking points.
Just stick the the facts without name calling back, I am actually intrigued with your debating style, please take my advice and not name calling back because imo you are more than holding your own. You also have excellent grammar. runs away....slowly awaiting the Shawn has a crush on JR flames.
He had my vote
shawn
November 23, 2008 - 23:34 ET by Noel Sheppardshawn,
Well, since you're waiting for it, let me oblige:
Shawn and JR sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G!
Now, let's pile on! :-)
Before that, however, JRJ should know that he's very close to getting banned, and better tone it down or the two of you will have to continue this romance elsewhere.
Of course, shawn you'd still be welcomed here to continue making passes at all the well-spoken female libs that show up...and, since we like you, we'll continue to not tell your wife! :-) ns
Hi Noel
November 23, 2008 - 23:46 ET by shawn228I will be fair here, the only post I have seen from JR are on this one. She kept it in when she saw the double standard of name calling here.
Come on Noel, there are some great debaters on NB, but when you encounter name calling, the pile on happens and there is no return.
Noel your site is by far the most fair out of any political sites, but it is still tilted to the right. and I'm telling JR she has to accept that.
He had my vote
shawn
November 23, 2008 - 23:49 ET by Noel Sheppardshawn,
I agree. And, if she complies, the flirting can continue here. :-) ns
LMAO Noel
November 24, 2008 - 00:00 ET by shawn228Very short and to the point. Smart because we will both be watching tv soon.
But since you want to start those fliting rumors around the board,.......psst I heard Unsane and JWF were kinda getting a little close. Don't spread it around k? "wink"
He had my vote
shawn
November 24, 2008 - 00:06 ET by Noel Sheppardshawn,
Secret's safe with me! 24 now! Later! ns
Shawn and JR sitting in a
November 24, 2008 - 00:16 ET by R D HelmShawn and JR sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G!
ROFL-Then let's all hope JRJ08 doesn't look like this.
:-O
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
LoL Dave
November 24, 2008 - 00:27 ET by shawn228Or like this :-) I hope Mr. Weatherbee does not catch al the gossipping. Pssss I also heard t there is this guy Archie and he has interest in 2 women named Betty and Veronica, pretty hot gossip, I'll fill you in later :-)
He had my vote
Shawn,
November 24, 2008 - 00:40 ET by R D HelmYeah, what I noticed were the piercing blue eyes.
LOL-But the real kicker was the mustache.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Dave
November 24, 2008 - 00:28 ET by Noel SheppardDave,
Could be an uptick...for both of them! :-)
Just yankin' your chain, shawny! ns
Noel,
November 24, 2008 - 00:52 ET by R D HelmYeah, and you don't want to know the search terms I had to use to come up with that pic, either.
LOL-Ewwwww, I think I'll go take a shower now.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Shawn...
November 24, 2008 - 00:34 ET by Warner Todd HustonJRJ makes "very good points"?
So far, all I see is self-aggrandizing, name calling, and childish behavior. This all equates to pure trollery.
And, also from what I've seen, I doubt very much that this person will be able to reverse the slide into even worse behavior.
The clock is obviously ticking for a banning.
Evening WTH... I
November 24, 2008 - 00:40 ET by bigtimerEvening WTH...
I sincerely hope you are right.
I'll add two more words...
...Tick-Tock...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
WTH
November 24, 2008 - 00:56 ET by Noel SheppardWTH,
Indeed. But we conservatives, unlike our liberal brethren, are a very forgiving bunch always willing to reward contrition and repentance.
As such, it's not too late. :-) ns
Why Warner?
November 24, 2008 - 02:25 ET by shawn228She has tried to her best not to name call, but she is tired of the double standard on why the double standard?...especially one of your threads.
I know in the world of NB, sometimes liberals have to hold back and take their licks and so far I am very curious on the comments that she should be banned for, like I said, I have not read most of her post, only this thread.
He had my vote
I have
November 24, 2008 - 03:09 ET by Warner Todd HustonI have only read this thread, so I don't know where else this person has posted and what was said. However, in most of the posts on this thread this person posted all sorts of name calling and very little debating. It is amazing you think that she has "tried not to name call" when nearly every post has some in it.
Warner
November 24, 2008 - 03:52 ET by shawn228You are right, many of the comments are her calling people names and that was not until later in response to the name calling she was receiving.
Look I'm not whining, I understand that liberals might not get the same consideration when it comes to the double standard, I get that. She also needs to cut the sizes of some of her post and insert page breaks once in a while. Reminds of the length of post of somebody else I know on NB, but I won't go there.:-)
There are very sarastic trolls like Leon that have nothing better to do than make fun of fat people, Montana Lyons, Rhayes and Proffessor Truth with the conspirisys, RainLillie and Cleverpig with their lets hug the terrorist bit, and you have trolls like shawn228 that always stirs things up.
There are good liberals one this site like Bal, Jer and JasonC. I just see potential for JR to be one of those people.
He had my vote
I admit
November 24, 2008 - 04:03 ET by Warner Todd HustonI admit that maybe JRJ might have been better on other thread, of course. I haven't seen the others.
I also agree that there are a few "good" libs here. "Good" in that they don't fly off the handle like wild-eyed, nuts at the drop of a hat.
And, while I understand that you realize this is a conservative site (after all, we attack liberals right in the title! Ha, ha), I'd also dare say that there is far less of the name calling and hatred on this site than you see on most liberal sites.
Anyway. It's up to JrJ at this point.
But, most importantly... what the heck does 228 mean?
WTH
November 24, 2008 - 04:15 ET by shawn228" And, while I understand that you realize this is a conservative site
(after all, we attack liberals right in the title! Ha, ha), I'd also
dare say that there is far less of the name calling and hatred on this
site than you see on most liberal sites."
You will not get a argument out of me on that one, I got kicked off DU after a few weeks, but I only posted in two threads. I dared critisize abortion and the fairness doctrine, but at the same time I got kicked off Redstate.com after only one post. So that is why NB is the best, left or right.
Shawn was taken as a SIG, so I thought about a quick number to go with the name, it was an impulse. I would be just plain shawn if you can make it happen for me. I have been good haven't I? I have not been a pest in your threads like I was :-)
He had my vote
I have...
November 24, 2008 - 04:51 ET by Warner Todd HustonI have to admit another thing. I am a vet of the old message board wars of the mid to late 1990s when message boards were everywhere.
I was responsible for leading a small group of conservatives that succeeded in practically destroying half a dozen lefty boards. It was vicious work, for sure (on both sides.) Yet, even at its worst, my group steadfastly refused to engage in foul language and cursing.
Still, one of the reasons I stay off the comments at NB (for the most part) is because it is all too easy to fall back into the attack mode that I got so used to for so many years on message boards.
I need to temper it and move away from that attack dogedness.
As to my screen name... I just came up with it out of no where. I don't know where it came from. It just hit me one day. LOL
Seriously, one of the reasons I use my actual name is so that it serves to remind me that what I say will reflect on me, that I am not hiding behind a fake name. It tends to make me think a tad more about what I say.
Wow Warner
November 24, 2008 - 07:49 ET by shawn228Thats a interesting story, how did you and your conservative co-horts take down these message boards if you don't mind me asking?
I would say out of all the contributors here on NB, you are one of the more red meat ones, that engage members. If you are holding back, I would hate to see you in attack mode;-)
He had my vote
Oh, BELIEVE ME
November 24, 2008 - 08:26 ET by Warner Todd HustonOh, BELIEVE me: I am holding back.
As to "taking down" it wasn't anything hackerish, if that is what you mean. What we'd do is find one that was smarter than most, engage for a while in straight debate. Gather at least 1/3 of the lefty members that decided we were "good" because we didn't just name call, then take that 1/3 and use them against the mods and board coffee klatch favorites and cause them to lose their status as the "trusted" leaders. To turn them against the rest, we would up the ante a bit in heated debate and when the mods would start to censor us we'd cry "unfair" and point out that their claims of free speech and fairness was based on a lie, that they really only wanted their own ideas promulgated.
It usually got so bad with the in fighting amongst the lefties that they would ban us. This would cause the 1/3 that kept sticking up for us to quit the board too, disgusted that the place wasn't "the same open minded place" anymore. Some times a few smaller, less trafficked sites would form out of the ashes but none of them would ever get as big again.
It would often take as long as 6 months, but the eventual goal was to take a lefty site that was pretty busy and drive the traffic down to nothing.
It worked several times. I can think of at least four very heavily visited sites that ended up being shut down and deleted over the war.
Now THOSE were some fun days!
After its all said and done, though. it was only for fun. It never did anything to seriously promulgate our own ideas. That is why I dumped that activity in favor of writing op eds and articles. There just wasn't any real substance to the interaction.
Lastly, it became patently obvious that every message board was EXACTLY the same of three types. #1) stupid with not a soul having half a brain. #2) smart or not this one was nothing but scream fests, curse filled and obscene, or #3) smart, sure, but always the same ideas. Nothing ever new. Same arguments, same points, same, same, same.
I lost my interest in message boards because there was never a thing new on them.
Hi Warner
November 24, 2008 - 12:29 ET by shawn228No I knew exactly what you meant. I guess it does go to show that there were some liberal members of the message boards that were open to a different point of view eh? ;-)
Now right back at you, I'm not sure if you are implying anything but I would never try to turn anyone against the mods on this site, because I respect them and love the fact that they allow free speech on here. I also believe that 80 percent of the members on here are open to good debate.
Even the members on this site that I have the most problems with, the ones that name call and deflect the question, I have no interest in having them leave the site, it would be definitely be less interesting if they were not on here, I just like to point out their tactics and hope people notice they are no better the media bias they are so staunchly against.
He had my vote
I was "implying" nothing.
November 24, 2008 - 21:26 ET by Warner Todd HustonI was "implying" nothing. What you infer is something else, again. I was speaking solely of myself and my past life on message boards.
And, yes, there were plenty of liberals on those boards that were open to honest debate. I even turned a few self-professed liberals into right leaning centrists.
But, the mods and board owners were NEVER those sort. They were always straight left, socialistic, liberals. That's why it was fun to ruin their day.
Of course, we all have to face a singularly annoying fact. We ALL have folks ostensibly on our side that we are embarrassed at.
Sorry Warner
November 24, 2008 - 21:32 ET by shawn228That is why I said I was not sure if you were implying anything. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
I agree 100 percent with everything you said in your post.
He had my vote
Shawn
November 24, 2008 - 09:45 ET by choselife3xI found this site a week before the election and loved it. The writing is great and I enjoyed reading the debates in the comment section. If it were just a bunch of us conservatives sitting around agreeing with each other it would be boring. Debating an opposing viewpoint is, well, fun. I did it in college all the time. There was never any vitriol because we were all reasonable people who liked and respected each other. I don't care if someone else doesn't think the way I do, I just resent them doing it with a sneer. And no matter who you are, you have to admit that the liberals you see on TV and in print are sneering.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Point taken...
November 24, 2008 - 12:16 ET by JRJ08You're right, of course. The name calling is just a symptom of frustration. I suppose I fell into it when I realized there was no real point in being here other than to irritate the natives. But the whole notion of calling someone names in an anonymous forum is silly because, at the end of the day, it doesn't really irritate anyone at all. Politics is a highly volatile subject in the friendliest environment, so we're no doubt seeing the worst of each other here. Not to call for or expect a 'kumbaya' moment on this of all blogs, but I think that I and everybody else here should try to remember that we're all Americans, trying to get by and hoping that whomever is in charge will do the right thing by us and our families. There are no guarantees that will happen, regardless of who is in the White House. We should also remember that most of what we hear during presidential campaigns is designed to pander to our personal fears and hopes-- by both sides. Not the best time to be drawing any permanent conclusions about anything or anybody, I don't think.
Thanks for the advice, Shawn.
You do relize
November 24, 2008 - 12:26 ET by general companyThat if you fall into the same rut, these words will come back to you?
Argue policy, not personality
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
That if you fall into the same rut, these words will come back t
November 24, 2008 - 12:38 ET by shawn228"Argue policy, not personality"
Agreed one hundred percent GC :-) I hope you can remember to post by those same standards you preech.
He had my vote
Sure,
November 24, 2008 - 12:45 ET by general companyI hope you can remember to post by those same standards you preech.
As I hope you are equaly blessed as well.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I think you'll agree that
November 24, 2008 - 12:48 ET by JRJ08I think you'll agree that getting into who launched the name calling wouldn't be productive.
I'm not sure that "arguing policy" is always the right way to go. Personally, I never really had a problem with many of John McCain's policies. Certainly, I was for his campaign finance reform, and at least he made an effort to solve the illegal immigration issue. My problem with McCain had more to do with his temperament. He has a well-earned reputation of being a pugnacious, volatile personality, and his favorite term of endearment is "jerk". I just didn't think he was emotionally suited to be Commander-in-Chief in a world with so many antagonists trying to bait us into problems we dont' need.
While I didn't know much about Palin's politics when McCain introduced her (who did?), it was quite obvious that she wasn't the greatest communicator who had ever run for national office, and she seemed terribly uninformed about too many things to be running on a ticket with a candidate who would have been the oldest president-elect in our history. The Couric interviews convinced me that she wasn't smart enough to deal with the most benign questions. As governor of the state ranked 47th in population, she might be completely acceptable, but times are just too precarious to have such a provincial non-thinker in the White House.
So, while it's always desirable to argue about more tangible issues such as a candidate's policy proposals and track record, those details are not necessarily the only factors a voter should take into consideration. You can share someone's politics, but still believe that they would be a poor choice.
Not so sure
November 24, 2008 - 12:49 ET by general companyMy problem with McCain had more to do with his temperament. He has a
well-earned reputation of being a pugnacious, volatile personality, and
his favorite term of endearment is "jerk".
Well the msm sure gave everyone this impression didnt they? Dont recall any exsamples though.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
McCain was the 'darling' of
November 24, 2008 - 13:30 ET by JRJ08McCain was the 'darling' of the MSM for most of the last decade. My point of view about his temperament comes from film clips I've seen of him, and on-camera statements made by several senators from his side of the aisle. One of them commented that he thought McCain was "too tightly coiled". I don't know of any people who draw their conclusions about candidates from pundits of either side. Over the years, you just learn about a candidate from his own lips.
JR... I just got an email
November 24, 2008 - 13:37 ET by Clear thinkerJR...
I just got an email from McCain. In it he called you a "JERK"!
Obama The Next Great Communist Leader?
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
JRJ
November 24, 2008 - 14:02 ET by cocodrieGlad to see you are suppressing your hatred. Drawing conclusions from pundits is what got Osama-Bama selected. We learned about you from your own lips. Hope you come to live with us in the real world someday.
→ Double
November 24, 2008 - 13:52 ET by Cool Arrow!
→ Great observation
November 24, 2008 - 13:51 ET by Cool ArrowOver the years, you just learn about a candidate from his own lips. - JRJ08
Want to tell us what you learned from Joe Biden's lips? Oh, yeah, I remember now.
I prefere to listen to what people actualy say
November 24, 2008 - 13:55 ET by general companyInstead of what someone said thay said, or what they think they meant. It is the word that come out of "the" mouth that are significant.
McCain was only a darling of the msm, because they were promoting the Rights weakest canidate.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
JRJ
November 24, 2008 - 14:12 ET by choselife3xA lot of conservatives have a problem with McCain's policies. I'm not sure about his temperment as opposed to Obama and the birds though. Which do you think would insult Putin more?
Regarding Palin, I am inclined not to put a lot of weight on interview performances per se. Public speaking comes naturally to few, especially when facing a hostile person on national television. Practice will take care of that. I don't consider those situations a reflection on her intelligence.
I like where she stands on the core issues of her party. I like what she has accomplished as a Governor. That is why I support her.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
One-on-one interviews are
November 26, 2008 - 12:33 ET by JRJ08One-on-one interviews are NOT "public speaking" engagements. When an interviewer asks a person simple, direct questions about themselves, and that person is unable to form coherent, complete sentences that even come close to answering those questions, that's an indication of a deficiency, especially when you consider that we're talking about an individual who has been in the public eye for the last 25 years. I've yet to see an interview where Palin hasn't spoken in nearly indecipherable sentence fragments. Usually, she sounds like a high school drop-out trying to talk like a PH.d. The result is a faux intelligence and "excessive decisiveness." Dopes often think stupid ideas and content-free sentences will sound smart if they're spoken with real conviction. I would think that articulateness would be a fundamental requirement for any elected official at the national level. So, I believe that many people did put a lot of weight on her performances in those several interviews, as well as the divisive tone she took in her rally speeches. That's why her favorables dropped so drastically in the weeks following the convention. Today, the people who "love" Palin will continue to do so no matter what she says or does. She has nothing to prove and no expectations at all. A wiser person would have gone back to their state after the election and immediately began to demonstrate that they were a first-rate chief executive who is focused on their state's problems. Presumably, Alaska has a few. Instead, after three months away from her state, Palin is doing everything she can to remain in the national limelight, including campaigning in Georgia.
Clearly, a lot of "conservatives" had problems with McCain's policies. He was perceived as too moderate by the right-wing of the party, which was why he agreed to accept Sarah Palin as his running-mate. If he had picked almost anybody else, he might have had a chance to win the election.
"Dopes often think stupid
November 26, 2008 - 13:53 ET by Hermano"Dopes often think stupid ideas and content-free sentences will sound smart if they're spoken with real conviction."
And this is why 0bama is our president-elect - 68M of them voted for him. And it is not hard to find examples of 0bama's content-free, stupid ideas.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
JRJ
November 24, 2008 - 12:31 ET by MrShyYou're a buffoon.
No, kidding, you're not a buffoon. But you ARE exhausting.
We love you, you know that, right? You're what makes it fun around here.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
→ Point made
November 24, 2008 - 12:31 ET by Cool ArrowI and everybody else here should try to remember that we're all Americans. - JRJ08
And we'll all remember your tacit approval of Joe Biden's racist statement.
"Not the best time to be drawing any permanent conclusions about anything or anybody." - JRJ08
Sorry, you had your chance to distance yourself from racism and you blew it. Anything you say now is a feeble attempt at damage control.
I'm only going to dignify
November 24, 2008 - 13:01 ET by JRJ08I'm only going to dignify this misstatement of the facts once, so listen carefully. This distortion, which you've repeated here several times, was discredited long ago as another statement which was taken out of context and seized upon by political opponents. Repeating it over and over again will not make it true. A similar tactic was used when Obama was called a socialist and Marxist after he made his "share the wealth" comment to Joe-the-Liar. Ironically, what we're all hearing now is what I fully expected to hear: that many of the economic proposals made by both sides during the campaign are no longer viable because the economic situation has deteriorated to a point that they wouldn't have been sufficient anyway. The real question for you is, if Joe Biden was a genuine racist who thought African-American children were inherently less intelligent than caucasian kids, do you actually believe Obama would have chosen him as a running-mate? Sort of defies common sense, don't you think?
Distortion?!? Like Joe-the
November 24, 2008 - 14:00 ET by HermanoDistortion?!? Like Joe-the Liar?!? Like Palin is stupid?!? Joe the plumber said he was hoping to start his own plumbing company. The media made it sound as it he "lied" because they heard "he owns his own plumbing company." To boot, they added "he doesn't have a license." Palin has run the Alaskan government to an 80% approval rating. To the media, she is stupid and cannot carry a thought in her head. She is obviously doing something right in her state, and if that makes her stupid, then we need more leaders who are that stupid.
You, my friend, say you listen to what they say, but you do it through the media's filter. As far as your common sense statement about racism, the most racist people I know are black, so it is not surprising that 0bama would select such a person. Either that or he did not think it would matter. Common sense is something I do not expect of my elected officials since they have proven over and over again that they have very little to spare. One day, I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
When a person misrepresents
November 26, 2008 - 13:44 ET by JRJ08When a person misrepresents what they do, what their name is, what their future plans are, how much money they make and how much tax they pay, I think that qualifies as lying. Almost nothing that came out of this handyman's mouth turned out to be true. If you think it's a stretch calling Joe-the-Plumber a liar, then you have a bit of a moral crisis to deal with on your own. As far as Palin being stupid is concerned, I don't know what her IQ is, but if her use of language and general knowledge is any indication, she's most definitely not above the 70th percentile in the nation. Maybe you wouldn't, but I think most people would say that doesn't exactly qualify as being smart.
You must
November 26, 2008 - 18:13 ET by Warner Todd HustonWell, if that's the way you feel about Joe the Plumber (a guy that was running for NO office despite the rapt attention your type gave him), you must REALLY hate Joe Biden!!
After all, he's had decades of lying.
To be consistent, you should be at least as hard on Joe the Plagiarizer.
Naturally, we all expect you to come up with a litany of excuses for Joe the Plagiarizer.
Joe the Plumber said his
November 26, 2008 - 22:02 ET by HermanoJoe the Plumber said his name is Joe - it is his middle name. I go by a nickname, Biden goes by a nickname - are we all liars? JtP said to 0bama, if he made $250K he would be taxed more, right? (Sounds like now that number could be $120K) He said he was hoping to have his own business, right? How do you know JtP does not have this HOPE? Are you reading his mind?
Regarding Palin and 0bama and IQs, do you know 0bama's? What was his GPA in college? What classes did he take? I will grant you he certainly is a smooth talker, and I guess that is all you need to know to vote for someone.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
→ Finally
November 24, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Cool ArrowBut too late. Biden was asked why Iowapublic schools score better than DC schools
Not surprising you fall back on that old "context" thing.
You had all day yesterday to rebuke Biden, and finally today, as expected, you defend him and his racism.
You'd be loads of fun if you weren't such a condescendingly patronizing racist.
JRJ08 You have called me a dope and an idiot..
November 24, 2008 - 14:08 ET by upcountrywaterI'm calling you a
DEMOCRAT
The real question for you is, if Joe Biden was a genuine racist who
thought African-American children were inherently less intelligent than
caucasian kids, do you actually believe Obama would have chosen him as
a running-mate? Sort of defies common sense, don't you think?
No sort of; about it!
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→ Without saying
November 24, 2008 - 14:12 ET by Cool ArrowI didn't know Obama's lack of common sense was in the mix.
Sort of goes without saying, doesn't it?