**Update** 4PM 11/01/08
Like Obama, the folks that run The Stranger "newspaper" in Seattle are all about tolerance... as long as you believe the same things they believe. If you don't, well, then you deserve intimidation and a good "outing." just as Obama has tried to intimidate radio talk show hosts, just like he has tried to use the office of the Attorney General to quash political free speech, The Stanger publication has decided that the best way to force citizens of Seattle to toe the far left political line is to have their homes photographed and their addresses made public for the outrageous crime of having a McCain/Palin sign on their property.
Editorial Director Dan Savage, another boring Seattle gay activist, has helmed this intimidation disguised as "humor" in order to attack his political opposition. Good thing ol' Danny is all "tolerant" and stuff, isn't it?
The feature was supposed to be a "funny" take on the Halloween "horrors" of homes that have political signs prominently displayed. But, what the end result actually relays is a different kind of horror. This article indulges in exactly the sort of behavior it pretends to despise. What is more intolerant than publicly ridiculing someone, ginning up hatred for them, and then publishing a photo and the address of their home? What is the purpose of this? Is it so that the more unhinged of your putative political compatriots can know just where to go to... what? Take revenge? Perhaps damage private property? Maybe worse?
The article starts off with this phrase: "Cobwebs and witches are for children and morons." I would counter to Dan Savage that political intimidation and endangering people because of their views is for Stalinists and Nazis.
Apparently Savage is not only this editor's last name, it is his creed.
**Update** 4PM 11/01/08
Looks like the wimps over at the gay centered "newspaper" The Stranger don't have the courage of their convictions, amusingly enough. They've pulled their story and re-directed the link to The Drudge homepage.
Apparently, the Stranger folks just can't take the scorn any more. They know what they did was indefensible and now they are pretending it never existed.
One thing is sure. If I had a dollar for every time the curse word f_ _k appeared in this "newspaper" I could comfortably retire after but a month of issues. Apparently literacy is a four letter word to these high-minded inteleckshuals.
If you'd like to read the text Hell Houses, the story from The Stranger, G'Willie over at GEOBENT took the time to reproduce it before the "newspaper" took it down.
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Lighten up, Warner!! It's
November 1, 2008 - 14:19 ET by motherbeltLighten up, Warner!!
It's just a Halloween prank!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
More of that vaunted Liberal "humor."
I know you are being humorous motherbelt
November 1, 2008 - 17:09 ET by JWFI wish I could share in it.
A $100 3'x6' vinyl McCain banner managed to escape the 6 nylon ropes tied to the grommets. Odd, the ropes only worked themselves loose at the grommet, not the poles and the tree it was tied to.
There goes my souvenier of this election.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Sturmabteilung
November 1, 2008 - 14:30 ET by Free StinkerThey're already compiling their "enemies list" for the Sturmabteilung to know who to deal with if The One should win.
"Dewey defeats Truman ! " --Chicago Tribune, 1948
ACHTUNG!
November 1, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Sergeant ROCKAfter all of this chicanery, if Obama wins he'll be President for life.
It's only fair.
PALIN/McCain 2008
I wish you were kidding.
November 1, 2008 - 14:35 ET by Free StinkerI wish you were kidding. ;-)
"Dewey defeats Truman ! " --Chicago Tribune, 1948
He's setting an example of
November 1, 2008 - 15:15 ET by Chris NormanHe's setting an example of how to turn in your neighbors. Children with their parents next?
McNotObama '08
Obama youth
November 1, 2008 - 15:18 ET by Sergeant ROCKWhat will you do when your kid comes home from school wearing an Obama 'O' armband and singing songs about the true Messiah, Obama?
PALIN/McCain 2008
"What will you do when your
November 1, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Blazer"What will you do when your kid comes home from school wearing an Obama
'O' armband and singing songs about the true Messiah, Obama?"
I'll be out with "The Wolverines" busting up an armored column. Hopefully the ol' lady will take him behind the woodshed.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
WOLVERINES!
November 1, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Sergeant ROCKI'm there! My code name is Cobra - just in case you hear me over the shortwave.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Mines Copperhead. Keep an
November 1, 2008 - 15:29 ET by BlazerMines Copperhead.
Keep an ear out for these codewords and you will know it's time to strike:
"the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall",
"john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache".
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
This is Free Stinker
November 1, 2008 - 15:45 ET by Free StinkerThis is Free Stinker broadcasting on Radio Free America with the truth from 10pm until 6am, but 1st a message for our friends . . .
It's 12am at RFA, another day closer to Freedom . . .
Copperhead
November 1, 2008 - 15:48 ET by Sergeant ROCKDon't make a move until you hear: "Blesse mon coeur avec une langueur monotone" ("Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor")
PALIN/McCain 2008
Sorry Sarge, I dont
November 1, 2008 - 15:50 ET by BlazerSorry Sarge, I dont speak Surrenderese, plain ol' queens English will do.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
And when it's all over, your
November 1, 2008 - 15:54 ET by motherbeltAnd when it's all over, your names will all be carved in Partisan Rock.
Whew! Thank Obama I don't
November 1, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Chris NormanWhew! Thank Obama I don't have kids. That's one less thing to worry about.
McNotObama '08
What will you do when your
November 1, 2008 - 15:40 ET by TN MomWhat will you do when your kid comes home from school wearing an Obama 'O' armband and singing songs about the true Messiah, Obama?
Cut off all allowance and take the keys to their cars (which I purchased) until they come to their senses. Money Talks.
TN Mom: Report to Re-Education Camp #13
November 1, 2008 - 15:55 ET by Sergeant ROCK"We have a signed report from one of your children where it was stated that you have voiced opinions and behavior toward your Messiah that require you to report to the Obama Administration Re-Education Camp for re-habilitation."
Sincerely,
THX 1138
PALIN/McCain 2008
Yea, i'll report allright.
November 1, 2008 - 15:58 ET by BlazerYea, i'll report allright. Right after I finish eating this bloody steak and polishing this sexy rifle.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I direct you attention to
November 1, 2008 - 17:26 ET by BDI direct you attention to "The Baltocong" from PJ O'Rourkes "Give War a Chance."
This type of idiocy on the left never seems to abate.
Obama wants to create
November 1, 2008 - 18:59 ET by SentryDanI just got through reading a headline on the Drudge Report and then watched a video on YouTube. It is a very scary sceniro. Here is the link to the YouTube video and the headline from the Drudge Report page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
Obama Vows To Create 'Civilian National Security Force'...
And here is what Obama was talking about.
Obama said he wants to create a Civilian National Security Force. This force would be the size of the current armed forces and it's budget would be as large as the current Defense budget. It would be just as powerful and just as strong as the current military.
This raises some very important questions. First, why would we need a Civilian National Security Force when we already have a National Guard? Second, couldn't Obama just increase the size of the current armed forces to handle any new or existing situations that the country might face? Where would the manpower come from for this new security force? Would this security force be armed with weapons and would these weapons be the same that the U.S. Military has?
And as someone commented on the YouTube page, "Have you heard of the Homeland Security Department?"
Folks, We the People can't let Obama be elected POTUS. Elect McCain/Palin.
Remember folks, it's hard to soar with eagles when you are surrounded by a flock of turkeys.
um yeah sentry
November 1, 2008 - 19:11 ET by candanceWe've been talking about that on NB since August. Welcome to party.
I'm the new guy in town CD.
November 1, 2008 - 19:39 ET by SentryDanI'm the new guy in town CD. And the video was the first time I had heard Obama's exact words. And it is only about the 3rd time I ever heard the CNSF mentioned. And what I did see in writing was nowhere close to what I heard on that video.
It sounds like from his words, that Obama wants to put some kind of "group" together that can counter the U.S. Military. Remember, there are lots of gangbangers out there and quite a few have had military service in OIF and OEF. In fact, not to long ago one of these gangbanger (who had been a Marine) killed a cop out in CA.
Again, why would the United States need a strong, powerful, well funded CNSF? We already have the National Guard, Reserve and active duty Military and there is also the FBI, Coast Guard, and Border Patrol. Why not just increase the size of these organizations? Why create a new security force? What would be its purpose?
Remember folks, it's hard to soar with eagles when you are surrounded by a flock of turkeys.
welcome to NB sentry
November 1, 2008 - 19:49 ET by candanceThere are so many folks here I can't keep up with everyone. I didn't mean to insult your intelligence before. :-)
Why would we need a civilian police force? Why for three simple reasons:
1) Undercover police can spy on and report people more efficiently.
2) Federal funding means the White House will have all the control and jurisdiction over what these people do.
3) Since they will not be soldiers or traditional police they will have their own rulebook.
And no, you haven't heard *anything* about it because the MSM is censoring it. We've kicked it around here a few times, but our resident libs have assured us that Obama is really a centrist who was just kidding about all those radical ideas.
Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.
Obama's Henchmen Cometh.
November 1, 2008 - 20:17 ET by TN MomObama's Henchmen Cometh. GOD HELP US!!
I think Biden was referring to a Civilian Police Force in his recent comments.
Good evening TN
November 1, 2008 - 21:01 ET by cocodrieI'd like to read Biden's comments if you can tell me where. Thanks
the 'Gird your loins'
November 1, 2008 - 21:23 ET by TN Momthe 'Gird your loins' speach, on obama's mettle being tested...
two days later Barney Frank says they'll cut our military by 25%, if Frank publicly says 25%, we can assume it will be at least 50%... obama's mettle will be tested. Instead of adding military, he will create his own Civil Police under the guise of a US Military.
It's all part of The Socialist Party.
ok, I have a migrane headache now....
THANKS, i'LL TAKE SOME
November 1, 2008 - 21:31 ET by cocodrieTHANKS, i'LL TAKE SOME ASPIRIN FOR YOU.
Welcome Sentry
November 1, 2008 - 20:02 ET by cocodrieThe impression I have is that this will be a national police force but a type of Non Governmental Organization that has no ties to local police nor to the military. The military will be severely weakened and held back while the national police keeps us in check. The whole country will be south side Chicago. Hussein can only hope to do this if he disarms honest citizens. Sounds far fetched, but what we are living through today was far fetched 30 years ago. NGOs have already enormous influence in the US today - Acorn, Sierra Club, Green Peace, etc. All will have a hand in ruling America if we let them.
Not so far fetched.
November 1, 2008 - 20:39 ET by SentryDanNo, the scenario isn't at all far fetched. There are too many of our fellow citizens who have been led to believe that the Freedoms we enjoy are guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. That could not be further from the truth.
The "g" word is used only once (Art IV, Sect IV) in the Articles of the Constitution and not at all in the Bill of Rights. We the People are expected (by the Founding Fathers) to fight to keepthe rights outlined in the Bill of Rights.
When I enlisted in the service some 45 years ago, I swore to "Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." I'm now retired and I sure as hell hope I don't have to do the domestic part. However, I will do what is necessary to keep my Country free.
Remember folks, it's hard to soar with eagles when you are surrounded by a flock of turkeys.
We've all had the opportunity
November 1, 2008 - 20:51 ET by Cape Conservativeto watch and listen as Barack Hussein Obama spoke to the ACORN group and told them THEY WOULD BE HIS ADVISORS ON POLICY EVEN BEFORE HE IS SWORN IN!
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN 2008
OUR COUNTRY'S EXISTENCE DEPENDS ON IT!
Most people don't know.
November 1, 2008 - 21:26 ET by pbthinkerMost people don't know that the Nazi's were socialists. That's why some of what Obama says just gives you pause to think. This one is really scary. Let's face it, all you need is a "civilian" army that's only beholden to one man, sounds a little sinister to me.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
This seems to be a
November 1, 2008 - 14:33 ET by BlazerThis seems to be a recurring theme with liberals. Along with calling people racists for not being enamored with a communist, like to harrass and intimidate folks and promote the possibilty that someones property could be vandalised, or bodily harm inflicted on them as well.
For instance, this chic at DKOS who's been banging this guy for six month's and now she's pissed because she claims he lied to her and voted for McCain. So what does she do?:
"I would classify BF as a "benign racist"
Benign racist? In other words he just doesn't wear a sheet and attend rally's.
Well along with calling him a racist(I know, shock there) at the end of her post she ask's if anyone would like his home address.
"One thing's for sure. If Obama loses Florida by one vote, we know who to blame. Want BF's address?"
WTF, is wrong with these people?
Check it out: http://www.dailykos....
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Yes I want his address...
November 1, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Tailgunner...so he can give me HERS.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
File under "Snort-worthy"
November 1, 2008 - 15:50 ET by motherbeltI love the remark about the many excellent, well-researched blogs I read
That would be DailyKos and HuffPo, I'm sure.
I enjoyed her allusion to
November 1, 2008 - 19:04 ET by dmntd1I enjoyed her allusion to "objective sources"... undoubtedly meaning the DK itself!
Her hatred of corporations also made me chuckle. Oh yeah, and this line tops ALL of them:
Which begs the rebuttal of "If you can do it, why do you insist that so many others cannot, and that they require government interference/assitance?"
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill
If GF (PattyP) ..............
November 1, 2008 - 17:43 ET by HoosierEm.....with all of her degrees,
her high-paying job, her houses, her cars, and her ability to buy
herself whatever she wants - why in the world is she a liberal?
Doesn't she know that the Big O is going to tax her to death, too?
Actually, methinks PattyP has made up a pretty good fantasy about her life.
Democrats never met a tax dollar they didn't like.
After the revolution....
November 1, 2008 - 14:47 ET by Tailgunner...people like Frank Rich, Ted Rall and this guy will be running the 'reeducation camps'.
I'm not joking. Under totalitarian/socialist regimes, amoral scum like this always seem to find their way into power. I used to believe that it couldn't happen here...now I think we're closer than even conservatives realize to a people's republic.
Maybe not this election...but soon.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
My God
November 1, 2008 - 16:23 ET by cayenne523Why do you give up so easily? If there is a Civil War II this will all be cleaned up. We hear about these actions because of a conservative web site. We cannot depend on FOX News. O'Rilley seems to be in the Obama camp now. He talks gently about him ever since he got his interview with the moron Obama. Wonder what kind of deal was made with FOX News for that interview. We need a web site that will pass all this news to people throught this nation. We need to organize and remove these people from power and put them out of business. Don't give up. Don't even think of giving up. When men fight wars there is no time to babysit the weak.
The guys above are kidding
November 1, 2008 - 16:32 ET by motherbeltThe guys above are kidding (I think) but honestly, with an Obama administration and the entire media in his hip pocket, one wonders if opponents will be reduced to getting their news over short-wave radio.
I'm only half-kidding.
All One Needs To Know About O'Reilly
November 1, 2008 - 16:45 ET by casel21In 2002, Mr. O'Reilly, collaborating with Saudi officials and contrary to requests of American officials, sabotaged efforts to have American citizens released from captivity.
http://opinionjourna...
He will sell anybody for ratings.
O'Reilly, like Noonan, Parker, Powell, et al, is very quick to sell out a la Kent Brockman: “One thing is for certain, there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to…toil in their underground sugar caves.”
He is One Bold Piece of...what's that word I'm looking for?
O'Reilly makes my skin
November 1, 2008 - 17:09 ET by katainkentO'Reilly makes my skin itch. He thinks if everyone goes to him for the answers they will all be the better for it. Its a wonder the stage didnt collapse from the strain of supporting both egos when he interviewed Obama.
In the interest of tolerance:
November 1, 2008 - 14:49 ET by The DistributistAddresses of the Stranger Staff:
Christopher Frizzelle
Writer
The Stranger
906 E JOHN ST
Seattle WA
Editors:
CHARLES MUDEDE
4524 35TH AVE S
SEATTLE, WA 98118
DANIEL K SAVAGE
1203 ALLEN PL
SEATTLE, WA 98103
DAVID L SCHMADER Born Nov 1968
152 20TH AVE
SEATTLE, WA 98122
Publisher:
TIMOTHY KECK
5043 15TH AVE NE
SEATTLE, WA 98105
"Modern man is staggering and losing his balance because he is being pelted with little pieces of alleged fact which are native to the newspapers; and, if they turn out not to be facts, that is still more native to newspapers." -GKC
You forget: Club Z,
November 1, 2008 - 16:05 ET by Eileen RightYou forget:
Club Z, Seattle's Best #1 Gay Men's Bathhouse!!!
Hey TD....that is
November 1, 2008 - 16:13 ET by bigtimerHey TD....that is rich!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
from ...
November 1, 2008 - 16:24 ET by katainkentfrom the Stranger's second article
Its actually rather insulting. My neighborhood is awash in Obama and other (D) signs. We're not out there yanking them and if we found out our children were they'd be grounded so fast their heads would spin. Practioners of tolerance indeed.
You hear rumors that if
November 1, 2008 - 14:58 ET by TN MomYou hear rumors that if obama loses (or wins) there will be riots; this is another scare tatic, a by-product of Chicago-style politics. I'm just sayin...there could be a 'Bradley Effect' which wakes up sleeping skin heads. The FBI just arrested two guys near my hometown. God Help Us.
Sometimes you get the bear...sometimes the bear bites you.
The left are to be
November 1, 2008 - 15:15 ET by bigtimerThe left are to be feared..especially if Obama gets in, along with more power in congress for the left....the likes of which we have never seen.
Be afraid...very, very, afraid.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
And don't forget the media
November 1, 2008 - 16:36 ET by motherbeltAnd don't forget the media on his side...reporting what he wants put out, ignoring other things....no investigative reporting...
Approval Ratings
November 1, 2008 - 16:41 ET by Sergeant ROCKI'll bet you money, that if Obama gets elected he will have the highest approval ratings of any President in history! Think along the lines of 101 or 102% approval.
PALIN/McCain 2008
They're known for this kind of garbage
November 1, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Republican_by_DefaultThis is the left coast... and the stranger is left of it. Unhinged is an understatement when describing these freaks.
But
right now it seems that they have redirected that article to the Drudge Report. Either they couldn't handle the bandwidth or they were afraid that the scandal of conspiring to thuggish behavior would hurt Barry's chances.
It's a well known fact that if you park your car in Seattle you shouldn't put any Republican or conservative bumper stickers on it. It will get keyed.
If anyone has a cached copy of the Stranger article I'd like to see it.
Try this links:
November 1, 2008 - 15:48 ET by The DistributistFrom my history.
edited: Hmmm, they got that link to. here is the direct address:
http://www.thestrang...
Okay... so the little girls got that one too...
"Modern man is staggering and losing his balance because he is being pelted with little pieces of alleged fact which are native to the newspapers; and, if they turn out not to be facts, that is still more native to newspapers." -GKC
this is why
November 1, 2008 - 15:25 ET by katainkentI tell people I am in the conservative witness protection program.
No longer exists..
November 1, 2008 - 15:27 ET by Sergeant ROCK... thanks to budget cuts under the Obama administration.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Or you join us in the
November 1, 2008 - 15:29 ET by Chris NormanOr you join us in the Republican Underground Resistance. We meet in an abandoned house in the woods. Passwords and codes words to follow...
McNotObama '08
And when you hear "Yankee
November 1, 2008 - 15:30 ET by Free StinkerAnd when you hear "Yankee Doodle" on the radio, that's the final signal . . .
;-)
"Dewey defeats Truman ! " --Chicago Tribune, 1948
Oui. Marie and Yvette will
November 1, 2008 - 15:36 ET by Chris NormanOui. Marie and Yvette will smuggle the copies of Ronald Reagan speeches to us in hollowed out loaves of bread...
McNotObama '08
"We will not go quietly
November 1, 2008 - 15:38 ET by Blazer"We will not go quietly into the night !"
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I was planning on embedding
November 1, 2008 - 15:39 ET by Free StinkerI was planning on embedding Reagan & Palin speaches in the middle of Youtube vids of Uh-uh-uhbama Youth.
But the bread thing will probably work too! ;-)
"Dewey defeats Truman ! " --Chicago Tribune, 1948
... join us in the
November 1, 2008 - 15:55 ET by TN Mom... join us in the Republican Underground Resistance. We meet in an abandoned house in the woods. Passwords and codes words to follow...
While there we need to go about getting our OWN PRESIDENT...I'm from the South, we almost pulled it off once!
CSA: Round II
November 1, 2008 - 16:07 ET by Sergeant ROCKI think that I look quite dapper in a suit of grey myself.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Sergeant Rock for Prez
November 1, 2008 - 16:16 ET by TN MomI'll get busy making campaign buttons! hehe
Lee & Jackson
November 1, 2008 - 16:20 ET by Sergeant ROCKI promise to make Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee's birthdays national holidays.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Keep in mind Sarge, Lee
November 1, 2008 - 16:45 ET by BlazerKeep in mind Sarge, Lee and Jackson were Democrats, Lincoln was a Republican, and so was MLK.
Now I wont' say that the war against Northern aggression was about slavery as much as it was about states rights, but if it was more about slavery, than the Democrats today are doing a splendid job of keeping their African American constituency down and keeping them in poverty.
I call it ideaological slavery.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
So?
November 1, 2008 - 16:54 ET by Sergeant ROCKI'm not a party hard-liner, so that doesn't bother me. Things change quite a bit in a 140+ years.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Actually nothing has
November 1, 2008 - 17:09 ET by BlazerActually nothing has changed. Liberals used to keep people enslaved withwhips and chains, now they keep people enslaved with handouts and ignorance.
The Democrat party only changed about forty yrs. ago or so. They were the staunch obstructionists to the civil rights movement and civil liberties but somehow since then the liberals have been able to hijack our message and doctrine.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
all the democrats ever do is exploit the race issues
November 1, 2008 - 17:40 ET by delmarThey only stir up resentment between ethnic groups. So many of them have jobs that depend on the perpetuation of animosity, for example, all these talking heads seeing racism in any opposition to "That One".
When the democrats do something for blacks that compares with the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments--which Republicans passed without any help from them--then I will maybe listen to their lectures.
Blazer
November 1, 2008 - 17:40 ET by TN MomNo wonder I hate the Dems so:
They're sneaky, lying thiefs who enslave the people in their own party.
Missing the point
November 1, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Sergeant ROCKOther than name, there are no similarities that I can think of. Lincoln, for instance, was just as racist as anyone else at the time. He also started this country down the path of an all-powerful, centralized Federal Government.
Slave owners were hardly liberal. Neither were all slave owners located in the South. Neither were all of the slave owners white. And weirdly enough, there were black Confederate troops. Hmm.. there goes the 'slavery' argument touted by some.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Um... no..
November 1, 2008 - 18:07 ET by Warner Todd HustonThat isn't true in any way.
Lincoln was quite enlightened for his day. Just because he didn't think blacks were completely equal to whites does NOT mean he was "as racist as everyone else."
Don't fall for the revisionist BS that Lincoln was not against slavery. Lincoln made his career on being anti-slavery. He used the word almost 2,000 times in his papers and he never praised it. His most famous speeches in his day (Peoria, 1854, and the Cooper Union speech) were ALL about containing slavery so that it would die out. He was an anti-slavery man. He just wasn't a societal leveler.
Umm.. yes
November 1, 2008 - 18:19 ET by Sergeant ROCKWhile Lincoln was not pro-slavery, it was hardly a top priority for him. Five months before the Emancipation Proclaimation he had some vistors...
...[W]hy... should the people of your race be colonized, and where? Why should they leave the country? This is, perhaps, the first question for consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races.... You here are freemen, I suppose... but even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race.... Owing to the existence of the two races on this continent, I need not recount to you the effects upon white men growing out of the institution of slavery. I believe in its general evil effects on the white race.... But for your race among us there could not be war, although many men engaged on either side do not care for you one way or the other.... It is better for us both therefore to be separated.... (speech delivered at the Executive Mansion on 14 August 1862)
Later he said this:
"I have urged the colonization of the negroes, and I shall continue. My Emancipation Proclamation was linked with this plan. There is no room for two distinct races of white men in America, much less for two distinct races of whites and blacks. I can conceive of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the negro into our social and political life as our equal.... We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed of, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable" (address delivered at Washington, D.C.; in Roy P. Basler, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume V, pages 371-375).
So, it is you that is falling for the revisionist nonsense, not me.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Sarge, trust me. I live
November 1, 2008 - 18:23 ET by BlazerSarge, trust me. I live in the former Capitol of the Confederacy, and was raised on this whole thing, and it's still very alive and well today. I used to drape myself in the battleflag and followed the ideaology of "States Rights".
However in this case it is inherantly wrong. "The Union of the states must be made inseperable" thus said by Abraham lincoln. If he didn't hold to that belief and held us all intact, do you honestly believe we would be the nation we are today. I seriously doubt it,
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Not buying it
November 1, 2008 - 18:37 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou're moving the goal post. My point is that Lincoln is not the God portrayed in public schools and revisionist education centers. Since you've changed the question from Lincoln to secession, did States have the right to secede from the Union? Indeed, they did. Why else was it a requirement to have to adopt amendments to be re-admitted to a Union that they had no right to secede from?
PALIN/McCain 2008
States certainly should
November 1, 2008 - 18:45 ET by BlazerStates certainly should have the right to secede from the Union, at least as far as the bill of rights and constitution are concerned, but "all men are created equal" so there for the Union was right, Confederacy was wrong, but if your whole argument is based on whether they should have that right in order to keep people in bondage, well then that's a whole different argument.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Inncorrect assumption
November 1, 2008 - 18:47 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou assume then that the war between the CSA and the USA was about 'slavery', that would be an inncorrect assumption. And further more, silly if you are implying that I would favor secession to maintain a right to enslave people. Nonsense.
Again, the point is that Lincoln is not the Messiah your public school touted him to be.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Then what was it about
November 1, 2008 - 18:50 ET by BlazerThen what was it about exactly, because although I'm no fan of our current politically correct acadamia, I feel they have gotten this one consistantly right since it ended in 1865.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Then, what's the point?
November 1, 2008 - 19:24 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou are convinced that everything you have been told is absolutely correct. But I'll oblige you anyway...
The simple fact is that it had more to do with economics. Unfair taxation and tariffs. Southern states were not getting a fair return on those. Lincolns problem with secession was not so much the slavery issue, they were imported through Northern ports, but the fact the South was a 'cash cow' for the coffers of the Federal government. Weirdly enough, I believe New Jersey and a couple of other Yankee states had riots over seceding themselves. As far as slavery is concerned, if those that bought slaves from the North had been compensated for them, then they may well have been freed without incident. Of course, those that sold them got to keep the money.
In the end, it was a good thing that the tyrant won the war, because we wouldn't know how big a Federal government could get.
PALIN/McCain 2008
hey sarge
November 1, 2008 - 19:37 ET by candanceI've been reading this conversation in passing, and I gotta say you indeed seem to be pushing the confederate POV a bit unfairly. Yes it was complicated but many conferedate enthusiasts these days want to minimize the slavery aspect as much as possible, and that does a great disservice to our history.
When I was in high school in the south I found that many people to this day are bitter about it as a cultural thing, which I see coming out in your remark about being glad the tyrant won.
Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.
Good evening Candance
November 1, 2008 - 20:19 ET by cocodrieI grew up in the '50s and '60s in a mixed neighborhood and slavery was not an interest to any of us back then. Today some of my black friends are rather obsessed with it. I believe that the subject has been promoted by the likes of Jackson and Sharpton to advance the left-wing extremist political agenda. Most people today are uneducated concerning American and world history and are easily influenced by the distortions presented by those with an agenda. You are right about those who want to minimize slavery, but those who accentuate it are even worse - Farahkan and Jeremiah Wright come to mind, and there are many teaching in our schools.
agreed coco
November 1, 2008 - 20:23 ET by candanceWe do a disservice to ourselves when we try to slant history in either direction.
"In the end, it was a good
November 1, 2008 - 19:48 ET by Blazer"In the end, it was a good thing that the tyrant won the war, because we wouldn't know how big a Federal government could get."
Man, thats rich. So it's a good thing the tyrant didn't let the Union dissolve and millions remain in bondage all for the sake of "states rights" and a small government.?
Tyrant's usually do not side with people who are trying to keep other folks out of bondage, big gov. however want's to hold us all in bondage despite our skin color or creedence, this is why the Confederacy in my opinion was the birth of Communism.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Your problem is..
November 1, 2008 - 20:11 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. that you're being disingenuous about Lincoln, an apologist if you will. You gloss over the fact that he did not view blacks as being equal to that of the white race. And further, to suggest that they be deported as a solution. Those are facts. Slavery was only an issue when it threatened the Union as a whole. Had some compromise came about that preserved slavery, it would have been another President that resolved the issue.
Another problem with you apologists is that when you are faced with the truth about Lincoln, then you start blathering on about how then by pointing out these facts that makes you a slave owner or something. Utter nonsense. Try reviewing the facts and quit your adolescent attacks.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Nope sorry, that is not
November 1, 2008 - 20:22 ET by BlazerNope sorry, that is not being disenginuous.
The Confedaracy was a government of elitists who's doctrine depended on farmers and skilled labor preying on slaves to fuel the economic machine, no different than any marxist, or mao-ist regime like the Soviet Union was or Cuba North Korea is today.
Whenever a political faction is wholly dependant on keeping a large segment of the population in bondage due to economic prosperity that is Communism.
The Confederacy was communist.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
come on sarge
November 1, 2008 - 20:27 ET by candanceFrom what I can tell we're all just trying to engage you in debate about a complicated issue. It's okay to disagree! But seriously though, you do sound bitter.
Missed another one...
November 1, 2008 - 19:05 ET by Warner Todd HustonNow you sound like a "Lost Cause" mythologist!
It is WHOLLY correct that the Civil War wa about slavery first and foremost. Certainly it was also about tariffs and states' rights, but slavery was the single most important catalyst of the war. In fact, without slavery, there would have been no war.
If it was not, pray tell WHY did nearly every single article of secession from nearly every single southern state feature slavery as its most important point. The single biggest worry that is featured in these articles by the individual southern states focuses on slavery.
If slavery wasn't a big deal, it is awfully odd that every southern state took such pains to mention it in their announcement of secession!
Lincoln Apologist
November 1, 2008 - 19:57 ET by Sergeant ROCKNo it wasn't. That's what your government school preaches.
No war, huh? So, had those states given up slavery but seceded anyway there wouldn't have been a war? Hardly. Lincoln was not about to give up the South over slavery or any other issue.
What's odd is that the Confedrate States had to ratify amendments to be re-admitted to a Union that they had no right to secede from in the first place. Now, that's a hoot!
PALIN/McCain 2008
Looks to me like you are
November 1, 2008 - 18:44 ET by Warner Todd HustonLooks to me like you are reading isolated instances from Lincoln without the context of the totality of his positions as well as the way his ideas changed over time. You are also not bothering to realize that Lincoln was trying to find LEGAL ways to end slavery.
My guess is you have been listening too closely to the historically illiterate Thomas Dilorenzo who's is only interested in being an iconoclast and warps his bad reading of history to make a name for himself.
And on secession... you might be amazed to discover that James Madison said there ws NO "right" to secession. He was four square against it during the Nullification Crisis of the 1930s. And, his opinion should be closely considered. After all, he isn't called the Father of the Constitution for nothing!
Nothing isolated about it
November 1, 2008 - 19:00 ET by Sergeant ROCKFacts are facts. There's nothing taken out of context. He only became a champion of ending slavery when it became politically expedient.
James Madison is but ONE man. And of course, he would say something like that - he was a FEDERALIST! What's next? Jefferson's Danbury Baptist letter?
So, tell me why again the CSA states had to ratify those amendments to re-join a Union that they did not have a right to secede from in the first place?
PALIN/McCain 2008
James Madison... a
November 1, 2008 - 19:11 ET by Warner Todd HustonJames Madison... a Federalist?? Dude, Madison was from Virginia and was a member of Jefferson's Democratic Republican party. I can see now I am wasting my time trying to have a conversation about history with you.
You are so full of neo-confederate propaganda that it is probably impossible to have a conversation with you.
Blathering Lincon Apologist
November 1, 2008 - 19:43 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, if I'm a conservative or a liberal, I have to be in either the Conservative or Liberal party?
Madison authored some of the 'FEDERALIST PAPERS'. Ever heard of those??? What did they advocate? Ever heard of the 'ANTI-FEDERALIST PAPERS'? What did they advocate?
I'm not dissing Madison, merely pointing out the fact that he was a Federalist.
PALIN/McCain 2008
You are clearly historically
November 1, 2008 - 20:08 ET by Warner Todd HustonYou are clearly historically illiterate. Madison was NOT a Federalist. The Federalist Papers was not named so because it was the point of view of the Federalist Party. It was the point of view of a Federal government under a Constitutional system. The two are not wholly synonymous.
Jesus, man, even Wikipedia at least gets Madison's party correct.
Since Sarge likes
November 1, 2008 - 20:39 ET by BlazerSince Sarge likes revisionist history, I suggest he checks out "The Domination", which had alot to do with changing my mind and taking the shine off, concerning the lost cause which is The Confedaracy.
http://en.wikipedia....
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
An off-shoot of your group
November 1, 2008 - 16:39 ET by Eileen RightAn off-shoot of your group "Republican Underground Resistance Against Liberals, America" (RURAL, America) is presently doing all it can to prevent an Obamanation from happening, stay tuned for updates and pray... February 6, out.
Group names
November 1, 2008 - 16:49 ET by Sergeant ROCKI'm thinking of something more like 'Quantrell's Raiders' or 'Mosby's Rangers'
PALIN/McCain 2008
If we do not succeed, we
November 1, 2008 - 17:02 ET by Eileen RightIf we do not succeed, we will go underground and be known as "Reagan's Raiders".
PS. This is privileged information, Public Dessemination is NOT Authorized, February 6... out
Reagan's Raiders Attack Messianic Temple
November 1, 2008 - 17:08 ET by Sergeant ROCK(AP) March 12, 2009 - Members of a terrorist group calling themselves 'Reagan's Raiders' have struck again. The terrorists kidnapped students from the #13 School of Enlightenment. The Obamunist Party has called for immediate action from the People's Enlightenment Force (PEF).
PALIN/McCain 2008
Under Obama, all protectees
November 1, 2008 - 15:47 ET by Eileen RightUnder Obama, all protectees of the "conservative witness protection program" will be re-assigned to Gulag 12, Mojave desert for intensive re-education and attitude adjustment.
The Program
November 1, 2008 - 16:49 ET by casel21A Groucho Marx nose and a t-shirt and baseball cap emblazoned with "conservative witness protection program"
ha
November 1, 2008 - 15:34 ET by candanceI told people on NB six months ago that we need to come up with alternate ways to stay in contact.
You were right
November 1, 2008 - 15:40 ET by Free StinkerYou were right Candance.
And I saw your lament in the forums. Cheer up! God is still in charge! He always was.
"Dewey defeats Truman ! " --Chicago Tribune, 1948
I'm learning morse code so
November 1, 2008 - 15:41 ET by Chris NormanI'm learning morse code so I can tap on the pipes in the "re-education camps".
McNotObama '08
You guys just remember,
November 1, 2008 - 15:46 ET by BlazerYou guys just remember, when we get to Gulag, I just called top bunk.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
We get bunks? All right!
November 1, 2008 - 15:51 ET by Chris NormanWe get bunks? All right! Praise Obama!
McNotObama '08
I assume we will anyway
November 1, 2008 - 15:53 ET by BlazerI assume we will anyway Chris. I mean the Nazi's at least had bunks, I'm sure the compassionate commies will too.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I'll sleep on the dirty
November 1, 2008 - 16:18 ET by TN MomI'll sleep on the dirty floor...as long as I dont have to hear Pelosi or obama's voices.
Dan Savage...
November 1, 2008 - 15:46 ET by Nortonalechow cliche'!
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."~David St. Hubbins
From watching the
November 1, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Chris NormanFrom watching the news, apparently there's nobody more nasty and vicious than a rabid gay activist.
McNotObama '08
No Ear Plugs or
November 1, 2008 - 16:46 ET by Eileen RightNo Ear Plugs or Soap-on-a-Rope authorized, Comrade.
Link redirects to Drudge
November 1, 2008 - 15:35 ET by DowitchVery Interesting: the link to the Stranger article embedded above has been redirected to The Drudge Report. Even when you go to the website for the Stranger and search for the article there, you end up at Drudge.
Are they censoring themselves? Or have they been hacked?
My guess is that they're not enjoying all the attention they're getting!
Prop 8
November 1, 2008 - 15:55 ET by WVDinoIt was on the Grapevine on night this week that the opponents are getting the names of individuals that gave money to vote yes campaign. Once they have the names they are posting signs "bigot lives here" in the yard.
Destroy These People
November 1, 2008 - 16:09 ET by cayenne523This is why these people must be faced in the streets and destroyed. I am so tired of the liberals and far left loons doing these tatics and the right sits back and does nothing. Do the good people of this nation realize these people are destroying our nation? Do the good people of this nation realize these perverted pieces of trash are teaching our children? It is high time that these fools be confronted and stopped from destroying our nation.
cayenne523
November 1, 2008 - 17:49 ET by TN Momwe just did...see update at article. Little sissys went crying home to mama!!!!!!!
BTW: I'll stand with you! I'm READY, WILLING, and ARMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the article hasnt been pulled
November 1, 2008 - 16:12 ET by katainkentit wont redirect if go there via cut and paste or google.
ps.
and have also written a rebut to what was on our local tv last night.
http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hell_houses_the_freakout
I don't live in Seattle, but we've had some weirdness going on..
November 1, 2008 - 15:57 ET by PrairieSkyhere, too. I live in North Dakota, and even in this traditionally red state, there have been problems with people's McCainPalin yard signs disappearing from their yards. This is the first time that something like this has happened in the 20 odd years that we have lived here. I am surprised we haven't been hit, because we have 2 big McCain and McCainPalin signs in our yard, which have been up for about 2 months, as well as several McCainPalin bumper stickers on our cars. Last night being Halloween, once it got dark, we did take in our signs just in case some wiseguy decided to be cute, but first thing this morning, they went right back up.
Something else interesting and related...My daughter is a senior at the university in our town, and the Student Government president at the school was apparently using his office on campus as a mini de facto Obama headquarters. Our local Republican office got wind of this, they complained, and the kid in question was told to cease and desist (which he did). What makes me nuts is that the university administration had to know about this, and did nothing until the Repub office complained. Can you imagine if someone was doing the same thing for McCain? It wouldn't have lasted a day.
This garbage going on in Seattle is just another example of what things look to be like if Obamessiah wins on Tuesday. If anyone, from a private citizen to a member of the press dares to cross "The One," look out...They'll find themselves targeted for such "heresy."
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN ON TUESDAY!!!!!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
.gov emails
November 1, 2008 - 16:33 ET by ScrapironI got an email campaigning for Hussein O with an Ohio .gov return address. There was probably 50 email addresses on the message. I replied to the email that the sender was in violation of election law by using an official government facility and equipment for his/her personal campaign. Guess I should have sold the email addresses to one of the overseas spam outfits. Haven't see any more from the fool.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Scrapiron...I believe it!!! In 2006 during the last election...
November 1, 2008 - 18:14 ET by PrairieSkyOne of the employees at my daughter's university was a prominent member of the local Democratic party, and was using her campus work email to send out mass messagings as part of her position in the party.
When I found out about this, I contacted the university president and gave him the evidence and expressed my concerns that a public, tax-payer supported state university employee was doing such a thing. He investigated, said he told the employee to knock it off, and told me that he had taken care of it, and would be reminding the rest of the university employees, faculty and staff that this was an inappropriate use of university resources.
As far as Ohio is concerned, I think it could end up making Florida in 2000 look like a tea party. I think that there is so much illegal and inappropriate activity going on concerning this election, we'll likely never know the full extent of it.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Scrapiron, you should have forwarded it...
November 1, 2008 - 21:48 ET by blooloo...to the registrar of voters and made a formal complaint.
"I might be movin' to Montana soon..." - FZ
Hey: I graduated from UND in
November 1, 2008 - 17:33 ET by BDHey:
I graduated from UND in 1985 and remember what the elections were like in the 80's in the area immediately surrounding the University.
THe precinct immediately around UND went heavily Democrat and the average University resident put out signs for the dems in their yards, Reagan signs were few and far between.
THe local news carried all sorts of info on how GF and Fargo were going to go Dem. But they did not, and neither did the state.
BD...Right you are!!! That's what we typically see around...
November 1, 2008 - 17:56 ET by PrairieSkythe universities in the state, especially UND and NDSU. If you drive on any of the streets near the campuses (where many of the kids live), you tend to see more Obama signs than McCain...Same thing on campus as far as bumper stickers. Polls back that up too, but most of the polling in the state is being done in the Grand Forks and Fargo areas as well, largely by and of college students, so that is why the numbers may be showing a bogus, skewed uptick for Obama. This is probably why he has made a last minute ad buy in the state this weekend.
The vast majority of the state is still solid McCain, and is still expected to vote that way.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Yeah, the Poli Sci profs at
November 1, 2008 - 18:24 ET by BDYeah, the Poli Sci profs at UND were all relentlessly liberals and were more in tune with Minnseota Politics than North Dakotan.
Don't worry about not seeing any McCain signs, he cut his own throat financially with his idiocy with campaign finance reform and now cannot even afford to have any in his homestate here in Arizona. They are all likely committed to the battleground states...
BD...Oh, absolutely! My husband and I volunteer at our local...
November 1, 2008 - 18:56 ET by PrairieSkyRepublican office, and zillions of people have been calling and coming in for weeks for McCainPalin signs, but unfortunately we ran out very quickly. As you said, most of the resources and signs, stickers, etc., have gone to the battleground states.
We actually got our signs early on by ordering them from McCain's website store...We were afraid that there would be a short supply of them locally, and didn't want to miss out.
That said, just in talking to people here, folks are scared to death of Obama winning...Many are saying that they are mad as hell too, and as a result, are voting a straight Republican ticket this year, which is notable, because many North Dakotans tend to be pretty independent thinking and commonly split their tickets. They tend to vote person versus party, but not this year. We've heard from a fair number of Dems also, who will NOT vote for Obama no matter what, because they just don't trust him, and are very afraid of what he may or may not do in the face of an international/national security crisis.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
It's official, we can
November 1, 2008 - 16:10 ET by BlazerIt's official, we can now call the left fascist-progressives
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Obama loss
November 1, 2008 - 16:18 ET by weirdoneDon't know about ya'll but if Obama looses I'am going out to destroy my car and set my house on fire. Seems to be the way to protest right?
Not me...
November 1, 2008 - 16:38 ET by ScrapironI might accidently set a democrats house on fire. In my neighborhood that might be hard to locate since I haven't seen but one Hussein poster on anyone's lawn. Guess too many 'Americans' live in this area, or the democrats are all the cowards we have came to know them to be.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Turn about is fair....
November 1, 2008 - 16:27 ET by ScrapironSomeone in the area go out and photo the sleeze balls houses and post the addresses/pictures/phone numbers on the web with a note, "A gay democrat lives here, for a free BJ call ***-****".
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Well, I'm sure after 0bama
November 1, 2008 - 16:28 ET by HockeyKidWell, I'm sure after 0bama cuts the military budget, withdraws from Iraq, and unilaterally disarms, the Furious Savage and his fellow buttraiders will be perfectly happy to have their addresses and photos of their houses published for the invading Islamists.
They do know why Hockmydinnerjacket claimed there were no gays in Iran, don't they?
Cut military by 25%
November 1, 2008 - 16:31 ET by Sergeant ROCKI think that it was Barney Frank that suggested that under a Obama administration the military budget would be cut by 25%.
That'll show our enemies we mean business!
PALIN/McCain 2008
Winner!
November 1, 2008 - 17:59 ET by Carbon SasquatchBarmy Frank has won the lottery to be The Big O's Secretary of Defense. The position will be deleted when Sec Frank has completely obliterated the armed forces. Earlier in the discussion, there was a remark about grey uniforms. In this area, RURAL volunteers will be expected to supply their own Mossy Oak Breakup BDUs as well as their own guns and ammo. Luckily, that's not a problem.
Never go to a gunfight with a caliber that starts with less than four
Well, there is at least
November 1, 2008 - 16:32 ET by BlazerWell, there is at least one gay in Iran, that is when he's not in New York giving speaches at Columbia University.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
article link goes to drudge
November 1, 2008 - 16:40 ET by glennforumWhere did the story go?
The link goes to Drudge now...
try here
November 1, 2008 - 16:48 ET by katainkenthttp://www.thestranger.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=729360&view=comments&sort_by=date_desc
Evidently the story has just
November 1, 2008 - 16:51 ET by BlazerEvidently the story has just been sucked up by The Memory Hole ©
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I just searched on the
November 1, 2008 - 17:15 ET by glennforumI just searched on the Stranger…you can do the same…type in McCain Signs in the search criteria.
Here is what is #2 on he list…
#
Hell Houses - Features - The Stranger, Seattle’s Only Newspaper
Oct 29, 2008 … That John McCain sign is screamingly scary enough in the
early-evening light, like a little flag for an evil army of pint-sized
ghouls …
thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=729360 - 4 hours ago
#
Slog: Comment on McCain Supporter Zaps
Now the link goes to Drudge. These guys are such scumbags…
Signs of a Tuesday Blowout
November 1, 2008 - 17:27 ET by Agrarian-DecentralistAt least they could find some McCain lawn signs. Here in Portland, 200 miles to the South, I've seen exactly one. By contrast, Obama signs are everywhere.
Portland?
November 1, 2008 - 17:31 ET by Sergeant ROCKWowzers! What's next? Numerous Obama signs in Harlem? Who'd thunk it?
PALIN/McCain 2008
Yeah, there are probably a
November 1, 2008 - 17:35 ET by BDYeah, there are probably a few "Marx/Engles for president signs in Portland as well.
No Signs, No Bumper Stickers
November 1, 2008 - 17:48 ET by HoosierEmWe put no signs in our yard and put no bumper stickers on our cars. People around these parts were having their cars keyed for having McCain/Palin bumper stickers.
My husband has a "Stop Global Whining" bumper sticker on his truck and he says he's been flipped off a couple of times just for that.
HooEm Isn't is pathetic
November 1, 2008 - 17:58 ET by bigtimerHooEm
Isn't is pathetic we all have to fear what stickers we may want to put on our vehicles or on our property because of vandalism and theft by the oh-so ever-loving liberals....the darlings of the msm who are the same themselves...
It has become a sad day in this country when we fear this...heck, I am in the NW...but we fear the same thing to if we go to our nearest big city, which we have to do now and then.
Our votes had better speak volumes...seems the only way we can speak, and then we still keep trying to be stifled adn suppressed by the msm leading the way saying the race is over The One has won...let alone the filthy fraud the dems get away with every single time.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
It is Pathetic
November 1, 2008 - 20:29 ET by HoosierEmI'm not liking the picture of how things would be with an Obama presidency. And when things go really downhill, he will blame Bush and tell us he's having a hard time cleaning up after Bush and the Republicans.
Democrats never met a tax dollar they didn't like.
Well, its going to be very
November 1, 2008 - 20:33 ET by PeskyDaneWell, its going to be very hard to follow someone who actually made defending the United States a priority, especially when you don't think your country is worth defending.
I have auto insurance so I
November 1, 2008 - 18:01 ET by TN MomI have auto insurance so I put a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on my car. hehe
Lots of McCain/Palin signs in TN...apparently the thugs are afraid of skin heads in these parts.
Hi TnMom.... Well of
November 1, 2008 - 18:11 ET by bigtimerHi TnMom....
Well of course we do too...and we do what wwe want also...but it is still a sad day in hell when you have to worry about something happening to your own property because of the loving leftists.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bigtimer
November 1, 2008 - 18:29 ET by TN MomI, too, have been worried. If obama wins it will get worse! I asked someone in law enforcement if the police are worried about riots if obama lost and was told they are more worried if he wins; the 'entitlement' people-who think they are owed something -will want to take everything.
Show your Colors
November 1, 2008 - 18:08 ET by Carbon SasquatchI freaked out a lib coworker with a peace sign lapel pin. She remarked on what a nice pin--I leaned in so she could see it was a bomber and said "Peace Through Superior Firepower." She was not amused, but I was. That's why I wear it, after all. I also enjoy my 'Celebrate Diversity' t-shirt, although it's not workplace-friendly.
CS... I am laughing out
November 1, 2008 - 18:15 ET by bigtimerCS...
I am laughing out loud here...I can just see/hear it the way you are telling this...
Hehehe... good for you...just wished I could of seen her face...had to be priceless.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Pravda Lives
November 1, 2008 - 18:28 ET by sawing battadoes this tell you anything about the state of the democrat party?
This militant hate
November 1, 2008 - 18:31 ET by afuelinspired thinking is a perfect setup for Obama. With this much hate, disunity, so many aggrieved and a socialist leader with a docile congress we could see ugly things happen to our country in a hurry. Biden's comments to supporters, about Obama being tested within first 6 months with Biden asking for their indulgence if the response doesn't appear viable is very disturbing.
A reasonable person could start thinking of some uncomfortable scenarios emanating from an Obama admin.
No Obama Ever
Here's a good place to see
November 1, 2008 - 20:50 ET by WesenHere's a good place to see how your neighbors give:
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=loc&addr=&zip=14850&search=Search
And, because of the conversation on Barry's Civilian Security Force here is a must read on part 1 of "unlawful combatants". Be very afraid people.
http://stewart-rhodes.blogspot.com/2006/10/enemy-combatant-status-no-more.html
»→ Seattle Pilot Project
November 1, 2008 - 23:44 ET by Cool ArrowThe Seattle pilot project, intended to demonstrate the efficacy of the Press alerting soon-to-be-formed Obama's National Security Force.
Smashing success as locals were recruited to simulate the work ob Obama's Brownshirts.
Rehibilitation
November 2, 2008 - 00:04 ET by sccSuzy C. Those nasty people with all those McCain/Palin signs will be called up for duty in Obama's Civilian Army for rehabilitation,indoctrination and then finally reassignment