It isn't every day that gun grabbers can invent a whole new catch phrase to use against our Constitutional rights under the Second Amendment, but the Orlando Sentinel is giving it the old college try just the same. Sentinel staff writer Henry Pierson Curtis extrapolates "an alarming trend" that he is calling "disposable AK-47s" out of the words of a Florida police officer. So, now we have a new worry that the gun grabbers can use to scare people into accepting the destruction of our Constitutional rights.
Using an incident in Orlando to drum up their newest gun grabbing meme, the Sentinel tells the tale of some criminals that perpetrated a double killing and then ran from the scene abandoning two AK-47s, two handguns and a shotgun behind them. The Sentinel warps a quote from an Orlando Detective into the new catch phrase.
"They just disposed of them like disposable cigarette lighters, I guess, because they're so easy to get," sheriff's homicide Detective Dave Clark said Friday. "I mean, it's really unusual for people to leave stuff like this behind."
So, from the casually exclaimed term "disposable cigarette lighters" the Sentinel gets the new fear of "disposable AK-47s." One pair of murderous scumbags leaving behind their arsenal as they flee from the scene and suddenly we have "disposable AK-47s." Amazing leap, isn't it?
In fact, there isn't a thing in the rest of the story that supports this disposable AK-47s conclusion that the Sentinel is pushing. The police never say that they are finding these guns strewn about at crime scenes, nor do they even hint at the concept of a disposable AK-47. It is a complete fabrication based on an off-handed comment by a policeman.
One wonders how Detective Clark likes the fact that his comments have been used to create a brand new -- yet fake -- criminal modus operandi?


















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Crimes involving assault
October 13, 2008 - 05:34 ET by motherbeltCrimes involving assault weapons have become so common that police
officials across the nation are discussing how to contain the national
problem, Sheriff Kevin Beary said this week. "We need to have a round-table with the Police Executive Research Foundation to get some answers," he said.
Well, that's easy; just renew the ban on them!
"Crimes involving assault
October 13, 2008 - 06:31 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Love"Crimes involving assault weapons have become so common..."
The only problem is that in the overwhelming majority of cases they really are NOT assault weapons.
Definition[s]:
A genuine assault weapon, as opposed to a legal definition,
is a hand-held, selective fire weapon, which means it's capable of
firing in either an automatic or a semi-automatic mode depending on the
position of a selector switch. These kinds of weapons are heavily
regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and are further
regulated in some states. (http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html). The ability of small-time thugs to acquire real assault weapons is quite limited. To legally purchase one, a person must pay astronomical licensing fees and taxes on top of the purchase price of the weapon which can easily top $2K for a junker. Thugs go for the quickest, cheapest route...and fully-auto weapons aren't in as high supply as the media thinks.
The media bozos and the idiot lawmakers don't even bother to educate themselves on the issue. They think that a gun is an assault weapon based on cosmetic features, rather than the ability to select between semi-auto and fully auto/three round burst.
You'd think by now with the pajamas media, the old media would work a little harder to try to not make themselves look like idiots.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon", 1942
Actually the term is Assault Rifle
October 13, 2008 - 08:15 ET by Dave DWhich is what you were describing. The term "Assault Weapon" is pretty much a made up term for "scary gun". (You know, use a similiar term, confuse people that don't know about it.)
Cold, dead hands...
October 13, 2008 - 07:07 ET by Sergeant ROCKWell, that's easy; just renew the ban on them!
Sure, feel free to come and get mine.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Sarge, I thought everyone
October 13, 2008 - 07:58 ET by motherbeltSarge, I thought everyone here knew me well enough...I guess I should have used the <sarc> tag. Sorry.
Liberals think a ban is all it takes.
MB,
October 13, 2008 - 08:03 ET by Indiana Joe"Liberals think a ban is all it takes."
If these weapons were acquired legally...
I'll eat them.
The Democrat Party: Creating, Defending and Using Slavery, Jim Crow and Segregation for Over 150 Years... and Counting.
Exactly. Libs are always
October 13, 2008 - 08:22 ET by motherbeltExactly.
Libs are always hopeful that people who ignore laws and the commandment against killing will obey laws regarding guns.
A general statement..
October 13, 2008 - 08:06 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. that's all.
PALIN/McCain 2008
An AK-47, providing that it
October 13, 2008 - 06:23 ET by jdhawkAn AK-47, providing that it is a semi-automatic, is no more dangerous than any other rifle. In fact, the AK-47 is just not a very accurate weapon. If the AK-47s were configured so that they are automatic, they can be quite formidable if for no other reason than they can spray a large area with lead. However, unless you are a criminal and have obtained them illegally, you have to jump through some high hoops to own one. They are considered Class III weapons. They must be registered in the National Firearms Registry. You must have a background check, pay a $200 fee, and wait about 4 months for authorization to take ownership.
Be that as it may, the criminals in the above case, by leaving the weapons behind, have left the police a treasure trove of forensics data including fingerprints, DNA, and ownership history of the weapon. This makes the criminalist's job easier. An added bonus is that these weapons are now out of the hands of criminals.
If all criminals left their weapons at the scene of the crime, it would make our policemens' jobs much easier.
Scary guns
October 13, 2008 - 07:14 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou are exactly right. That's been the case since the 1930's when 'Tommy Guns' were all the rage. I believe I saw somewhere that maybe one or two crimes have been committed by a Class III license holder using a weapon capable of auto-matic fire.
Liberals/Socialists are always trying to usurp the Constitution under the guise of 'crime control'. It's a well known fact criminals don't register guns.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Hello Sgt.
October 13, 2008 - 08:21 ET by cocodrieIn 1968 SCOTUS case US v Haynes: Haynes, a convicted felon, could not be prosecuted for illegal possession of a firearm because the 5th ammendment protected him. SCOTUS says criminals cannot be required to register firearms. In 1969 State v Schuster: Schuster could be proscuted because he was not a convicted felon. Only law abiding citizens can be required to register firearms.
SCOTUS
October 13, 2008 - 08:29 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo, liberals are just lying - there's a surprise. And yet, they get away with it.
PALIN/McCain 2008
Hey, Hank, ever see "The Godfather?"
October 13, 2008 - 08:05 ET by Indiana JoeThere is so much in this article that is either deliberately misleading, or just plain ignorance. Sadly, some of it is from the detectives.
"I guess, because they're so easy to get." Bad guess. Extremely difficult to get legally. If they're easily available illegally, Orlando has a big problem. One that has nothing to do with "gun control."
Having an arsenal like this available shows the actions of an organized criminal group. Maybe they can easily replace them. But leaving murder weapons at the scene is a sure-fire way to not get caught with the evidence that one is involved in that murder. Even if the guns are traced to a registered owner, a lawyer can handle that. Possessing the murder weapon is a lot harder to explain in court.
Throwing away such expensive weapons only indicates that the cost is not a concern to the criminals. I'd look at major drug rings for clues to the perps' identity.
"Crimes involving assault weapons have become so common that police officials across the nation are discussing how to contain the national problem, Sheriff Kevin Beary said this week." Most Sheriffs are politicians. They run for the office. "Assault weapons" is a misnomer; at least Curtis correctly identifies full-auto-capable rifles as "assault rifles." When an elected official uses the term "assault weapons," you know where he's going with it.
"One of the AK-47s shows likely signs of having been stolen because the serial number had been filed in an attempt to remove it, detectives said." That makes no sense. A stolen gun can only be traced to the point of theft, an investigative dead-end. A serial number allows tracing it to either the person who bought it, or to it's point of manufacture. Attempts to remove it indicate a desire to hide it's owner, or hide the means by which it got into the owner's hands. If, in fact, it means anything at all.
If this is an attempt to raise "gun control" as an issue in this election, I welcome it. The left is free to once more cut their own political throats on it. But it's probably more a case of an ignorant reporter quoting some mistaken detectives, and an anti-gun politician.
Too bad. Embracing gun control would sink Obama quicker than the Lusitania.
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The Democrat Party: Creating, Defending and Using Slavery, Jim Crow and Segregation for Over 150 Years... and Counting.
Newsflash: Guns used in killings almost always disposed of.
October 13, 2008 - 08:51 ET by c5thenCriminals know that to be caught with the gun guarantees conviction. This is like making up a new problem that drug dealers who are pursued by police discard the drugs where children might find them!
Does this imply that police should not chase drug dealers?
Disposable, yes..
October 13, 2008 - 08:53 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. but are they bio-degradeable?
PALIN/McCain 2008
Please Sgt.
October 13, 2008 - 08:59 ET by cocodrieDon't say things like that. It will be a requirement in the next gun control bill.
Green Guns
October 13, 2008 - 09:06 ET by Sergeant ROCKI believe it's already been tried, but they evade metal detectors and tend to blow-up when fired.
PALIN/McCain 2008
"Green guns?"
October 13, 2008 - 09:29 ET by Indiana JoeShirley, you jest. ;^)
Has everyone lost their minds?
Jesus Christ was crucified by "community organizers."
WTF?
October 13, 2008 - 11:44 ET by CobraMan"I mean, it's really unusual for people to leave stuff like this behind."
Yo, dummy, you should be HAPPY that they left "stuff like" that behind. Not only did you "discover" the weapons that were used in a crime (isn't that called EVIDENCE?), now those weapons can NOT be used in another crime. Would you be happier of they took the weapons with them and used them to kill someone else?
"They just disposed of them like disposable cigarette lighters, I guess, because they're so easy to get"
Humm, they discarded the weapons because "they're so easy to get?" I wonder if the fact that the cops arrived while the "gun battle" was occurring had any relevance on the decision to dispose of the weapons befor they "fled" the crime scene? I mean, really, how easy is it evade capture when you're carrying two AK-47's, two handguns, and a shotgun?
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
Curtis is a moron
October 13, 2008 - 11:53 ET by Sergeant ROCKWho would've thought that a criminal would dispose of a stolen weapon after the commission of a crime? Or a stolen vehicle? A stolen credit card?
He's taking a story and spinning it to suite his agenda.
PALIN/McCain 2008
"I mean, it's really unusual...
October 13, 2008 - 13:43 ET by thebronze...for people to leave stuff like this behind."
Oh really?
Wow, I've NEVER heard of crooks trying to get rid of the evidence of their crime before...