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Well, leave it to Pat Oliphant, political cartoonist of the Washington Post, to make fun of both God and Sarah Palin at the same time, eh? Back on September 9, with his Tuesday comic, Oliphant featured a God that curses and portrays Sarah Palin speaking in gibberish as if she were "speaking in tongues" because she is supposedly a crazy Pentecostal. Oliphant apparently isn't aware she left the Pentecostal Church six years ago? I'm sorry missed this one back on the 9th, but it is no less outrageous now than it was then.
Take a gander at this disgusting display of anti-religious blather:

Imagine having the gall to put curse words in God's mouth? Not to mention the bigoted way he attacks Palin's religion!
My guess, you'll search in vain to find an Oliphant cartoon making fun of Obama's religion.
This is why they call him Soiliphant... OK, this is why I call him Soiliphant!




















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Hahaha, the lib loons are
September 21, 2008 - 11:26 ET by dscottHahaha, the lib loons are going over the top, keep it up lib loons, keep it up, the voters are watching and making up their minds. Maybe we need to start keeping a list of the ways the lib loons are insulting the voter? It should be as lengthy as Obama's flip flops. Taking God's name in vain is a serious offense against many voter's values. But then again to the liberal loon, religious intolerance and taking God's name in vain is a civil right like breaking the rest of the 10 Commandments. Name me one of the 10 Commandments which the lib loons don't consider a civil right...
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Panic on the left in
September 21, 2008 - 11:28 ET by BDPanic on the left in evidence.....
Why is a cartoon of God
September 21, 2008 - 21:28 ET by Indiana JoeWhy is a cartoon of God okay, but one of Mohammed is cause to burn a city?
Anyone?
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
because one is the domain
September 22, 2008 - 16:15 ET by TruthMongerbecause one is the domain of satan, and satan gets pissy
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Does this idiot even know what "speaking in tongues" sounds like
September 21, 2008 - 11:31 ET by smartestmaninamericaI grew up in a Charismatic Church (think 'Pentacostal Light'). As such I have heard people "speak in tongues" many many times and have done so myself and could right now if the mood struck me.
It is actually quite beautiful (especially when sung) and sounds in general like a melodic middle-eastern language, although each person's "tongue" is different and unique.
If I were to record myself speaking in tongues right now and play it for you, you would imagine you were listening to an Israeli Newscast or something like it. It sounds nothing like the "gibberish" this fool spouts.
Oh, and by the way, you don't need to be in some convulsive trance to speak in tongues. Anyone "baptised in the Holy Spirit" (it's in the Bible, read about it) can speak in tongues anytime they like. It is actually easier to sing it than to speak it, perhaps because tongues is supposed to be a language of worship and music holds great power in heaven.
Here is the odd thing though. Although it is possible to "speak" in tongues (my tongue has sounded exactly the same since I was 16 - I am now 48), it is not possible to "think" in tongues as we can "think" in English. For some reason, mouthing the words is required. Who knows, ask God.
P.S., Anytime my faith in God falters, I just speak in tongues for a while and I ask myself, if God is not real, how the hell can I do this? :)
Yet the hypocritical dem
September 21, 2008 - 11:33 ET by wiwfYet the hypocritical dem cartoonists won't draw a picture of muhammed
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Tongues
September 21, 2008 - 11:57 ET by GothampcI grew up in a denominational church that didn't believe in speaking in tongues. When we were kids, we used to make fun of it. (When I was a child, I spoke like a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things). When I grew up and began studying the subject, I realized I had been in error and I received the gift of tongues.
Usually when you investigate the people that mock tongues, you find out how ignorant they are regarding the Bible. There is a Biblical basis for speaking in tongues, many scriptural references in fact.
The fact that someone mocks tongues confirms to me the power of tongues. If there weren't something there, it wouldn't be discussed.
People think it requires a trance-like state...
September 21, 2008 - 17:22 ET by smartestmaninamericaIt doesn't. Once you receive the gift, you can just do it whenever you like. It really is kind of an odd thing and I am constantly surrpsied when I can do it.
I have considered recirding it and giving it to a language expert to see if it sounded to them like a real language, but I was always afraid that might seem sacriligious.
did you learn that quote of "childish things"..
September 22, 2008 - 17:57 ET by UndercoverConservativefrom a class in literature or from an anime movie? Just curious:)
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
Anime
September 22, 2008 - 23:10 ET by Kenny BunkportHey, don't disparage anime. It's generally better than "Must See TV" and far more believable than any network programming. :)
A gun in your hand beats a cop on the phone.
I hope Evangelicals and
September 21, 2008 - 11:34 ET by taterI hope Evangelicals and all other Christians demoninations in general keep tabs on this kind of stuff when the Democrats or libs try to pander your vote. This is what they really think of you.
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"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
no worries, the Big Guy
September 22, 2008 - 16:19 ET by TruthMongerno worries, the Big Guy keeps tabs for us, and then we get the weekly sermons
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
I dare him to do one with
September 21, 2008 - 11:34 ET by motherbeltI dare him to do one with someone doing an Isalmic chant.
Of course, he wouldn't do that, even without the death threats. Because he is "sensitive" to Muslims. Christians, on the other hand are fair game for ridicule
Didn't You Know???
September 21, 2008 - 16:01 ET by Secret ConservativeThe Chosen One has already declared that the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound on earth!
From the New York Times, no less:
'Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
I'm sure it's highly
September 22, 2008 - 00:18 ET by Ken ShepherdI'm sure it's highly annoying to be woken up early in the morning to the call to prayer, particularly if you're visiting a country where a Christian church dare (if allowed to meet openly) would not be allowed to clang a few bells to ring in Easter or Christmas or herald the opening of Sunday services.
Led Zep in the evening is Call to prayer.
September 22, 2008 - 09:40 ET by BDKen:
The Call to Prayer if done in the far distance by a decent voice is oddly enchanting. Sadly, most of the guys doing it in th emiddle east sound like frogs....
As an odd note, the first time I got back from the Middle East, I heard the opening of the Led Zeppelin SOng "In the evening(?)" in which the lead vocalist starts out singing off in the distance. I gotta tell you I got the biggest set of shivers as it transported me back to Hafir Al Batin in a split second.
I am being facetious, but
September 21, 2008 - 20:17 ET by FranksamI am being facetious, but perhaps Christians need to go back to their roots and off cartoonists for mockery as well. Liberals love a level playing field, or so I'm told. How about a level killing field?
Good-by, Pat.
WaPo cartoonist: stinking hypocrite slammed Mohammed cartoons
September 21, 2008 - 12:42 ET by Jack BauerHe's the gutless Oliphant in the room all right.
Patty boy Oliphgnat is way too cowardly to mock Mohammed, but has no problems mocking Christians.
What a yellow dog. Let me guess Patty Oliphgnat, Christians never threaten to behead you?
And let me be clear, I could care less what unfunny Oliphgnat doodles make it to the WaPo. He wants to mock Palin, and Pentecostals, and all Christians, that's his problem, not mine. But please... read this crap he came out with about those poor sensitive Muslims.
Jack, Christians don't behead like Muslims
September 21, 2008 - 13:07 ET by jefflebowskiThis liberal coward doesn't have a problem offending Christians because he knows he doesn't have to worry about being blown up or beheaded. Funny, how the Freedom of Speech goes out the window once liberal cowards feel a little fear.
I loathe them all.
Jeff Lebowski
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You know, I said, and I
September 21, 2008 - 15:05 ET by motherbeltYou know, I said, and I still believe that Oliphant (and even a lot of others) wouldn't ridicule Islam even if they weren't concerned about death threats.
Because they have to be "sensitive" to Islam, you know, and all the other "diverse" groups. On the other hand, Christianity in general, and Catholics in particular, are the only groups who it is OK to insult and ridicule.
This is part and parcel of
September 21, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Indiana JoeThis is part and parcel of the so-called "reverse" discrimination of today. The only people allowed to be pilloried, criticized, or even mildly lampooned are the perceived "oppressors" of the past.
The only race allowed to be attacked is the European (white) race. CCTOI, it's the only race that can be safely addressed by it's color. Can't call Native Americans "red." Can't call Orientals "yellow." You'll even have people correct you for calling Africans "black." But a "white?" Oh, yeah, you mean them. The "enslavers." The "conquerers." Their turn.
Noticeable starting a while back was that every other commercial had a "dumb dad" in it. I can't be the only one that noticed. Suddenly, men were incompetent blow-hards, incapable of wiping up a spill, or taking out the garbage. Super Mom and/or Super Teens to the rescue, cleaning that spill, feeding that dog, removing that spot, while poor Helpless Male could only drool in gratitude. The "woman oppressors." The "chauvinists." How do you like it, guys?
Apply the same to religion*. Simple. Christians have burned people at the stake, had the Inquisition, the Pope, the Crusades, what have you. So now, it's payback time for them.
Put it all together, and the safest people to say whatever the Hell you want about are white, male, Christians. No one can accuse you of "bigotry" if that's your target. I constantly correct the term "reverse discrimination," because there's nothing "reverse" about it. Except "reverse" carries with it the excuse, "they deserve it." The justification always seems to come down to "payback." Nice, huh?
A certain type of person needs to attack others in this manner. They have a pathological need to be pin-headed bigots. I've actually heard them say that the majority should be "big enough" to take "a little kidding." And this is the basis of their "logic."
I sh!t you not.
*-plus, of course, you have the snivveling coward aspect to the Muslim cartoons.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
As my parents taught us kids
September 22, 2008 - 05:29 ET by tomnkikiAs my parents taught us kids growing up, "Two wrongs don't make a right".
Silly Christians
September 21, 2008 - 21:29 ET by JWFHow many Christians have to drive trucks loaded with explosives into Marriott hotels loaded with infidels before we finally stop voting for them.
Oh wait, I got confused again.
Turns out speaking in tongues does not drive you to kill in the name of Christ.
Sounds like a pretty benign religion to me, so I guess I will continue to vote for them.
"How many Christians have
September 21, 2008 - 21:52 ET by Indiana Joe"How many Christians have to drive trucks loaded with explosives into Marriott hotels loaded with infidels before we finally stop voting for them?"
Um, four? One to drive, and three to carry the luggage?
Oh, sorry, misunderstood the question.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Oliphant
September 21, 2008 - 11:53 ET by jaywlThis is really over the line, even for the Post. Factually wrong, slanted, sacrilegious, well, maybe not over the line, just more of the same.
As for Oliphant, he has made a huge mistake. He has depicted the image of God in a cartoon. This will put he at the top of the jihad hit list. He will be tracked down and be punished with God's vengeance. Death to Oilypants! Oops, never mind, wrong religion. Goodbye.
cartoon
September 21, 2008 - 12:06 ET by charlietexaslets see, they left out that Palin left that church several years ago because "they were a little weird". She is in a more conservative church and they do not speak in tongues. No one has ever asked Palin whether she actually had a religous tongue speaking experience. Maybe they will. I doubt if she did.
Gee, they also left out that Obama's reverend does not speak in tongues because he has a "forked" tongue. Obama did not leave his "mentor's" church until he was outed for participating in white hatred from that church. Then he threw his "father Wright" and the church itself under the bus with many, many, people including his sweet old white grandma that was left to raise Barry after his white mother and black father left him. The wheels are off the ground of that bus because of so many dead Obama figures there. What a joke. And they call us racist. I wonder, someone should look into whether Wright's church received any Fannie Mae "blackmail hush money" that Jesse and Al got.
Its ok for 100% black people to vote for Barry because he's black and we're racist if we don't vote for him.
I'm sorry to rant, but these liberal people just piss me off.
take issue with the attempt
September 22, 2008 - 16:23 ET by TruthMongertake issue with the attempt to marginalize, please - don't let it pass
speaking in tongues is not "a little weird"
it is the Holy Spirit
the real jibberish is over on dkos my friends
not shocking to me
September 21, 2008 - 12:11 ET by candanceUs Pentecostals have been fair game for ridicule all across the cultural spectrum and not just the left. I recall an appearance Ann Coulter gave once where she said that Pentecostal preachers like Jimmy Swaggart were comparable to snake oil salesmen.
I've had other "Christian" friends tell me that speaking in tongues is witchcraft, Pentecostals are childish fools who fall for anything, we all play with snakes behind closed doors, and we make up Biblical doctrine as we go along. I've been called everything from Jezebel to Daughter of Satan to heathen.
So no, it doesn't surprise me that WaPo thinks it's a joke. It's always okay to think Pentecostals are a joke.
More on Palin's Religion
September 21, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Dr_LibertyI've been given the opportunity to be a semi-regular guest on a local rural radio show that discusses politics. I knew that the topic of Palin's religion would come up so I did a little research -- namely about 5 minutes (pay attention AP, WaPo, NYT, etc.) -- into the religious scene in Wasilla. Here are the quick findings:
* There are at least 10 churches in Wasilla. This means that there are 1,000 people for every church in town, a surprisingly high ratio relative to other Northwest towns. (My own town has about 3,000 to 1 ratio).
* There is a church with the name Pentecostal Bible Church in Wasilla. This is not, or was not, Sarah Palin's church.
* There is an Assemblies of God Church in Wasilla. This was Palin's previous church.
* Pentecostalism is a broad based term that encompasses a large number of practices. The most central aspect of Pentecostalism is that adherents want to experience an intense and closely spiritual link with Jesus Christ. This may manifest itself into glossalia (speaking in tongues) but not all Pentecostals adhere to that. It also might include snake handling, but that is a very rare practice. Different denominations may consider themselves (or from an outsider's perspective may appear) Pentecostal. Assemblies of God are a denomination that is more likely to be associated with Pentecostalism, but not all AofG denominations are explicitly Pentecostal. Palin's AofG church may have a Pentecostal flavor to it, but it does not appear to be steeped heavily in glossalia or snake handling.
* Here is an interesting fact. African-American churches, including AofG, Southern Baptists and other denominations, are more likely to be Pentecostal than similar denominations that are mostly white. Thus, by insulting the Pentecostal nature of Palin's former church, Oliphant is also insulting a large number of black churches.
* Another interesting fact. Protestantism is growing rapidly among Latinos, both in Latin America and the U.S. The largest number of Protestant converts among Latinos are Pentecostals (often time just called "evangelicos"). Thus, Oliphant is insulting a significant section of the Latino population (as high as 33% of Latinos in some areas of the country). These Latinos tend to be very well organized and more likely to vote than non-churched Latinos.
* Palin's current church is a non-denominational evangelical-based church, very similar to the one I attend. These are the fastest growing segment of the religious population, particularly in the less-churched areas of the Northwest. And trust me, these people are noticing what is going on.
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This is yet another example
September 21, 2008 - 12:23 ET by lotrThis is yet another example of the powerful, well-financed (as evidenced by the media in their coat pocket) Left's game plan for destroying those who stand in the way of the radical pro-abortion agenda -- slander their opponents in any way possible, in this case, portraying them as "far right fundamentalist Xtian fanatics" who are nutcases at best.
Time for the RIGHT to grow some larger fists
September 21, 2008 - 12:33 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasTime for the RIGHT to grow some larger fists and start hitting even harder. The hatred for all things decent, tradition and moral are growing exponentially.
The answer to terrorism IS war. Next Please!
And its time we stop
September 21, 2008 - 12:43 ET by Conservative VoiceAnd its time we stop fighting each other. United we Stand...
But it is TIME for you d@mned CRY BABY BOOMERS and GEN-Xer's
September 21, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasYes, it is time for all Non-Supporters of BLACK JESUS to Unite! It is time for the line to be:
BLACK JESUS Supporters on one side / and Non-Supporters of Black Jesus on the other.
After the election and defeat of the greatest threat yet to America's survival, BLACK JESUS, we can sort out our differences and pursue the best ideas and programs for our country's benefit.
But it is TIME for you dAmned CRY BABY BOOMERS and GEN-Xer's who are addicted to your silly @ssed idea that YOUR SPECIAL voice must be preeminent in all concerns to learn to fight as a team with the understanding there is the necessity of a contract among us all, that oppose the MARXIST OBAMA, which involves a willing compromise of our wish list for a common good or the survival of this nation will disappear and your silly @ssed self-aggrandizing obsession with your special voice won't matter a damned bit!
The answer to terrorism IS war. Next Please!
Good point, Guy,
September 21, 2008 - 22:06 ET by Indiana Joebut, um... working together may be easier if we leave off the finger-pointing. Are any of us not guilty of having our own reasons and interests in the forefront of our concerns?
Denigration does not lead to unity. The libs are demonstrating that very well already.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Wrong, not right, to grow larger fists
September 22, 2008 - 09:47 ET by ChuckM from PASorry. The better response would be to love your enemies, bless those who curse you. Never repay evil for evil, but rather overcome evil with good. I'm sure this pertains to political campaigns, too.
high five:) Journalism is
September 22, 2008 - 16:26 ET by TruthMongerhigh five:)
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Refresh My Memory
September 21, 2008 - 13:48 ET by flyingmonkeyCan anybody tell me again why the Danish cartoons weren't reprinted in American newspapers? Just curious!!!
Multiple choice
September 21, 2008 - 22:00 ET by Indiana JoeBecause freedom of the press only applies if you own a press.
Because we are a country of deeply sensitive people who would never dream of offending anyone, any way, at any time.
Because our self-proclaimed shapers of public opinion are truly all-knowing.
Because our media is made up of wussies that would make our Founding Fathers kick their snivveling asses.
1, 2, and 4.
None of the above.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
doesn't this just show how
September 22, 2008 - 16:27 ET by TruthMongerdoesn't this just show how tolerant we actually are? it's a good thing isn't it...
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Bitter
September 21, 2008 - 14:57 ET by alaskaalThis is a bitter commentary on a number of different levels. I remember when Oliphant was clever and funny. Now he is just bitter with no real hook. It is sad to see a talent go soft, particularly when it results in mean-spirited ridicule with nothing of value to it.
I don't normally look at the cartoons of Oliphant anymore and now I see why. Not much reason to do so. Just more of the same leftist bile.
Oliphant will have his
September 21, 2008 - 14:58 ET by HockeyKidOliphant will have his chance to explain himself.
It reminds me of one of my favorite cartoons ever. It ran the day after Carl Sagan died, and it showed Carl standing at the foot of the Throne (a huge pair of feet disappearing into a cloud), looking up, and thinking to himself, "Oh, [expletive deleted]."
Indeed.
Perfect example of the
September 21, 2008 - 15:12 ET by bigtimerPerfect example of the Devil's work...
Fear...pure fear.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Palin Derangement Syndrome
September 21, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Free StinkerPalin Derangement Syndrome reveals it's ugly nature.
"fair play"?
September 21, 2008 - 15:53 ET by wdhorningYou know I do not think it is advisable to talk about God in a way that insults God. Sarah Palin is a true, born-again, Christian with a personal walk with the Lord, and should Oliphant not be, well, watch out!
If we used Oliphant's standard of "fair play", then we can say Barrack Obama is a radical Muslim "plant" set on the overthrow of the US government, or even still a Rev Wright follower, hell bent on damning America. However, just as Obama left those those things behind, so too, Sarah Palin left a church noted for speaking in tongue about 6 years ago.
Oliphant is needs to change his name to Elephant and vote for McCain-Palin.
God has a landline?
September 21, 2008 - 17:23 ET by CrashWho knew? Get with the times Oli, one would think an almighty being would have, at the very least, an iPhone!
I remember that Pat
September 21, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Kenny BunkportI remember that Pat Oliphant was one of the first political cartoonists where I had name recognition. We had a teacher who was trying to introduce us to political cartooning. She used Oliphant's work for examples.
Little did I realize at the time it was just part of the public school indoctrination program.
A gun in your hand beats a cop on the phone.
time to teach
September 21, 2008 - 20:20 ET by sentforth5First...Governor Palin is no longer Pentacostal. Second...Non-Christians have a well-placed,but not understood fear of Christianity; as a result they can only mock YHVH God and make fun of Christ Jesus and His Deity.
Let me properly explain "tongues".
There are two kinds of tongues discussed in the Bible: the Tongue of The Holy Spirit of God spoken of in the great Book of Joel (ch. 2) and in the Book of the Acts of the Apostles (also ch.2).
The second is spoken of ( in the manner of informative instruction )in Paul's first epistle to the church at Corinth ( 1st Corinthians chs. 12, 13 and 14).
In the book of the Acts it was The Holy Spirit who spoke THROUGH the apostles in a cloven language that was easily understood by ANYONE who heard it. When The Holy Spirit of God speaks it is heard in the ear of every listener in the natural language and dialect of that listener. I'll dumb that down a bit and say if five people sat next to each other- one from England, one from China, from Spain, from Germany, and one from Pakistan all heard The Holy Spirit adress them as a group, that One Holy Tongue would be heard in English, in Chinese, in Spanish, in German and in Arabic respectively at the same time. Check out Acts ch.2 verses 6 through 11. Peter explains it very plainly.
The second type of "tongues" spoken of by our beloved brother Paul is very simply different languages. Paul is discussing various gifts given by God to people, and if one is given the gift of "tongues" that simply means an individual can speak other languages besides their natural language of their particular country.
I am from America, and I naturally speak English, but if I could ALSO speak French and German that would mean God gave me the gift of "tongues".
It is not difficult for the serious-minded student of the Text to understand and it is high-time for Christians to take a sober look at the Bible; as the Day draws near to the end.
God is not the Author of confusion, but of peace.
But, you know....I was just sayin' is all.
Re Time To Teach
September 21, 2008 - 22:03 ET by wotsiznameIt was good to see a summary of "Tongues." Maybe some have added tongues in vague sounds not understood by others, I heard people do that once and it was totally lost on me. But the New Testament speaking in tongues, as far as I have discovered, consists of various people hearing and understanding one speech in their own individual native languages. That makes sense and apparently filled a need.
My Pastor
September 21, 2008 - 22:34 ET by RebelShowed it to us in Church tonight.I was raised in a Baptist Church but now I go a Pentecostal Church and it is all new to me and still learning about it all.
Go WVU
Never vote for Byrd
And I Thought Liberals Were Thin-Skinned About Humor...
September 23, 2008 - 01:04 ET by The7SticksAs an agnostic Jew (and someone who has professed a deep loathing for the Catholic Church because of its anti-Semitic history), this didn't seem anyway out of the pale to me. First of all, it makes fun of the assumption that even God couldn't understand Sarah Palin, and he apparently is supposed to know what speaking in tongues sounds like. Second, since when is God cursing a blasphemy? It's the other way around, like Jeremiah Wright had done with his hate speech using the lord's name in vain against America. How is it in vain if it is God himself who is swearing? And he only said the word "dam' ", not the correct variation which almost certainly would be more serious (though not to me.)
Well, at least Oliphant got the kind of response he was expecting: a predictably outraged reaction from some people who have way too much time on their hands. You know, like the Catholic League of Douchebags when they tried to get that episode of South Park that featured a statue of the Virgin Mary menstruating pulled. If you don't like it, move to Iran. That, or grow a pair.
Oh, and FYI: I was severely disappointed at the cowards who didn't stand up for Flemming Rose and his Jyllands Posten magazine when all those turban-wearing bomb throwers were feeling prissy about an ink drawing of their lord and savior. All lords and saviors should be subject to ridicule. Screw Mohammed.
-Mr. Garrison: "That's God?"
-God: "What Were You Expecting?"
-Mr. Garrison: "Well, not like that!"
-From South Park
Live and let live.
September 23, 2008 - 01:16 ET by JWFLive and let live mr. agnostic. People get a little torqued. Let it slide.
Kudos for screwing Mohammed though. Ain't like people in that religion get all out of whack and start murderin' or nothing when they get dissed on, huh?
The7Sticks, if I were you, I'd worry more about the anti-Semitic
September 23, 2008 - 01:30 ET by R D Helmbehavior of the 7th-century illiterate barbarians.
Trust me, as the actions of the bass-ackward camel-scrubbers over the last 1400 years far and away over-shadows the actions of the Catholic Church.
-Dave
Well, Mr. 7dicks, as a
September 23, 2008 - 02:12 ET by Warner Todd HustonWell, Mr. 7dicks, as a non-denominational Christian, I guess I could look on those "agnostic Jews" as Jesus killers. So, I guess you have the original sin, pally!
Strike Three.
September 23, 2008 - 02:18 ET by JWFHe's out!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
crickets
September 23, 2008 - 09:53 ET by lotr<the sound of crickets>
Can somebody please define for me the oxymoronic "agnostic Jew" moniker? I thought Judaism was a religion.
If there are liberal-drones out there who want to persist in their irrational belief that the Catholic Church is "antisemitic," then that's their problem. Based on my reading of history, I don't buy it. And considering the "affirmative-actions" of the last 6 popes, these drones are ignorant at best, but giving them the benefit of the doubt, I suspect it's more along the lines of good old-fashioned anti-Catholicism, which has become a quite fashionable in the pop-Hollywood culture.
»→ lotr
September 23, 2008 - 10:03 ET by Cool ArrowJewish is also an ethnicity.
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
Cool
September 23, 2008 - 10:35 ET by lotrHow so? Does that mean "Catholic" is also an ethnicity?
»→ No lotr
September 23, 2008 - 10:43 ET by Cool ArrowYou can opt out of being Catholic. (I did)
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
True -- one can opt out of
September 23, 2008 - 12:43 ET by lotrTrue -- one can opt out of being Catholic, or Lutheran, or Methodist, or Muslim (at your own risk, of course), or Hindu, or just about any social structure. Given your touted exodus from Catholicism, may I deduce that you have seen more than your share of what may be called "cultural Catholics"? Futhermore, many widespread "Gentile" cultural practices (e.g., Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc.) all have their roots in Christianity, yet there are many baptized "non-believers" who still practice them. Does that make them "agnostic Christians"? If "culture" is the defining element of an "ethnic group," then why can't Christians (Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant) be included?
the ethnic Jews were just
September 23, 2008 - 12:49 ET by TruthMongerthe ethnic Jews were just kinda hanging out one day and suddenly became God's chosen people...
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
What's amazing to me is
September 23, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Kenny BunkportWhat's amazing to me is that "lapsed" Catholics or former Catholics are The Authority on the Catholic religion. At least in the minds of the intelligensia.
When was the last time you heard the news talk to a contented Catholic? When was the last time you heard the media quote a disgruntled or ex-Catholic?
A gun in your hand beats a cop on the phone.
White Box With Red X
January 5, 2009 - 12:46 ET by 1611LilacLadyThat's what is showing . . . but that's okay. One less viewing of another example of the world's blasphemy . . . is fine by me.
Isaiah 5:20a Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil. . . KJV