The folks at Yahoo News Photos section must have been greatly amused by their web page titled "Anthropology & Archaeology." The first four pictures in the slide show are various archaeological discoveries... well, except for the third one. THAT one happens to be a photo of John McCain. Yes, Yahoo seems to be saying that John McCain is an archaeological artifact! Nice ageist slap, eh?
Here's a screen shot of the original page...
The first two images in the Yahoo slideshow depict a pair of photos provided by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki of artifacts from a dig in Greece. The McCain photo, on the other hand, has a caption quoting John McCain's thoughts on the latest Indiana Jones movie. All the rest of the photos in the slideshow deal with various archaeological subjects.
Needless to say, the John Mccain photo has no place in this slide show... unless you want to make a slam on McCain for his age.
Not very subtle, Yahoo News. Not very subtle at all.
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How outrageous! Good catch WTH
August 30, 2008 - 09:16 ET by Dee BunkThese people are unbelievable.
The MSM also forwarded the Obama campaign talking point of "heart beat away" that's pretty outrageous also. Remember when Hillary tried to say that she should be allowed to stay in the race and that it wasn't the first time the nominating process went to the end? The media had a hay day with that implying that her comments meant Obama was likely to be assassinated. You had to take some leaps to gleam that from what she said, but this clear outrageous statement about "heart beat away" is considered legitimate by them.
Dee
August 30, 2008 - 09:56 ET by shawn228I could be wrong, but from what I remember the msm were upset, mainly because she tried to compare Obama to the Robert Kennedy assasination and did not have much to do with a "heartbeat away" reference.
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Even if that were true Shawn
August 30, 2008 - 10:07 ET by Dee Bunkshouldn't they be equally outraged about the much more direct statement of "heart beat away"?
Hillary was clearly stating her reasoning for staying in the race citing other candidacies that went into June (including her husbands). The OBAMA campaign (through operatives) pounced on that as a claim that Obama could be assassinated and the media ran with it. She never said anything about Obama being assassinated. One had to infer that. It's not like she said Obama was a "Gun shot away". That would be comparable
The Obama "heart beat away" claim is a clear slam aimed at picturing him dead. It's much more outrageous than Hillary's statement. There was nothing wrong with Hillary's statement.
" shouldn't they be equally
August 30, 2008 - 10:14 ET by shawn228" shouldn't they be equally outraged about the much more direct statement of "heart beat away"?"
I would have to say no. The implication of an assasinaton is totally different than a "heartbeat away" McCain is 70+. The life expendancy of American male is not much more than a decade on top of that. He has also had a few bouts with cancer.
The fact that McCain might die, or have a stroke is not out of the ordinary for his age, and that would make Sarah Palin the POTUS.
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I completely disagree Shawn 8 presidents have died in office
August 30, 2008 - 13:56 ET by Dee Bunk4 were assassinations and 4 were from health reasons. Only one died of a heart attack and that one (Harding) was 57 yrs old. Older Presidents didn't have heart attacks and got through the Presidency just fine.
Many Presidents had unsuccessful assassination attempts and in some cases others were killed. What if Biden is Killed then we have the slim experience of Obama (not that Biden's is very great). Oops that's right we'll have the slim experience of Obama even if Biden doesn't die.
I doubt anyone with a healthy parent or grandparent in their early 70's or a healthy boss in their early 70's or a healthy Priest or Pastor in their early 70's thinks of them as ready to keel over at any moment. It's absurd and part of media partisan brainwashing.
Both McCain or Obama is more likely to Die by assassination then they are of natural causes in the next four years if they are elected President. McCain's mom is still alive and neither of Obama's parents are. That shows you how meaningless death wishes are. Anyone can die at any time from an accident, murder or illness no matter what their age. McCain has longevity in his genes and could live to be over 100. Not only is his mom alive, but she isn't senile.
Now - even if he were to die Sarah Palin could easily pick a V.P. with much more experience than Biden.
If it's offensive to talk about the possibility of death, I'd think that talking about in in the context of justifying staying in a race because "anything can happen" (not just death) vs advocating not voting for someone implying that death is likely to happen is completely different. Hillary's comments were very appropriate but these McCain/Palin attacks are not.
Also - of the last 10 prior Presidents - all have lived
August 30, 2008 - 14:11 ET by Dee Bunkpast the age that McCain would be at the end of his term except two - Kennedy who was assassinated and Johnson who had a heart attack at age 64. Most of the others lived into their 80's.
Dee
August 30, 2008 - 16:29 ET by shawn228A few months ago Tim Russert had a heart attack and passed away at 58 yrs old.
John McCain,l I believe will be the oldest President to ever take the oath of office if he wins this election.
I want to be clear I don't approve of any smear jobs on Sara Palin, I am just saying it is not unreasonable for someone to point out that Sarah Palin will be the POTUS if McCain dies. A stroke or a disease or Alheizmers can also make McCain unable to lead and the 25th amendment will have to be implemented.
I like Sarah Palin and I believe it was a good choice, but it is not wrong for people to question her credentials to be Comander in Chief
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Shawn - you ignored all my points
August 30, 2008 - 16:53 ET by Dee BunkI've shown that with the last 10 prior Presidents they are just as likely to die from assassination as they are of a heart attack and that the one who died from a heart attack did so at an earlier age than most Presidents live to. Of the 8 remaining 3 are still alive and 2 are older than McCain will be at the end of his term and the other 5 died when they were older than McCain will be at the end of his term.
Your Russert example just further illustrates my point. He was only 58. I personally know 2 people (who were fit and not overweight) who died of heart attacks in their 40's. One was a smoker one wasn't.
People can question her credentials all they want but they shouldn't do it in terms of a Death wish. It's inappropriate. Hillary did not make her statement in terms of a death wish (she gave two examples) she gave it in terms of "anything can happen".
If they were outraged by her statement because they thought it inferred a death wish then they should have for sure been outraged at one that clearly puts one on McCain.
And by "Death Wish" I don't mean they are praying for his death or trying to cause it, only that speaking of someone as if they will die soon when they are healthy is inappropriate and in very bad taste.
Dee
August 30, 2008 - 17:24 ET by shawn228I am not ignorning your points. You make very good points with your statistics. I am just saying it is not over the line to say that Palin is heartbeat away from the Presidency, and there should be no reason for an outcry.
I'm guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm just glad we can have civil debate :-) I see you are trying to defuse a situation on another thread. Good luck, it looks like it is starting to get ugly.
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shawn
August 30, 2008 - 17:36 ET by BlondeJohn McCain's mum is 96 years old and still kicking a** and taking names.
In his genetic world, 72 is the new 50.
Nuff said.
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i'll bet she's sharp as a tack
August 30, 2008 - 17:46 ET bythat'll make her the keen-mum : )
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
Good tag team there Bruce and Blonde
August 30, 2008 - 17:56 ET by Dee Bunkthe Keen-mum thing is great - gave me a chuckle
We aim to please
August 30, 2008 - 18:01 ET by Blonde:)
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Yeah - what ever Shawn - we can agree to disagree
August 30, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Dee Bunkbut it doesn't change the fact that I'm right! ; )
I'm glad we can have a civil debate also and that you aren't taking offense to my disagreeing strongly.
I don't really want to get involved in either of the two flame wars going on, I just had to give my opinion a couple times. I've learned that it's not worth the effort. I've faced the fact that my normally excellent ability to determine character in people is completely haywire on the Internet. People don't really show their true selves. Some show a better side others show a worse side - there is really no telling. I was way too naive.
and i've shown a better side
August 30, 2008 - 18:01 ET byof being worse but seriously, my best side is my profile
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
I like your profile Bruce
August 30, 2008 - 18:15 ET by Dee Bunkit's all good.
Dee Bunk
August 30, 2008 - 18:03 ET by MrShyThe PopTech-F.Stinker and Blazer-Sarc battles?
Yeah, those are both barn burners, and it's sort of true what an old friend of mine once told me... that blogging allows people to assume a more aggressive and stubborn persona in debates then they would in person. Not saying/assuming that any of us are not strong-willed people face-to-face, but well...
Really, I've learned -- internet, in the flesh, whatever -- that at some point people are what they are and believe what they believe. For this reason, I never go beyond 3 or 4 exchanges in a debate. It's ultimately futile.
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Mr Shy
August 30, 2008 - 18:08 ET byyes so capitulate now
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
Bruce
August 30, 2008 - 18:31 ET by shawn228What makes you think Shy wants to resist?.:-)
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Shawn
August 30, 2008 - 18:34 ET by MrShyI'm getting a tingle up my leg as I type...
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'that blogging allows
August 30, 2008 - 18:13 ET by Blazer'that blogging allows people to assume a more aggressive and stubborn persona in debates '
Mr. Shy, and I would assume that is the position you would take in a debate, being from NYC and in the entertainment industry and all. Perhaps you troll here to sell Cd's and do not necessarilly believe in what you preach.
Needless to say when you mention me and Free's and Sarcs "barn burners" at least we have something relevant to say.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Or put another
August 30, 2008 - 18:18 ET by Free StinkerOr put another way:
Blazer: 1
Shy: 0
Free & Blazer
August 30, 2008 - 18:23 ET by MrShy"Perhaps you troll here to sell Cd's and do not necessarilly believe in what you preach."
All I have to say is..... WTF?
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blazer
August 30, 2008 - 18:35 ET bythat is a low shot dude, rather rude and baseless to boot
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
Agreed, botg
August 30, 2008 - 18:39 ET by BlondeThat slam on Shy was over the top.
I think PopT has acheived his goal here today.
Pissing everyone off and setting them on edge.
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Thanks Blonde :)
August 30, 2008 - 18:46 ET by MrShyAnd yeah, I was going to also say that, well.... something must be in the air... or the water. :p (with the Palin pick and who knows what else...)
Sure, I'm a sensitive artist who's not a master debater (sorry, had to :p) and sure, music IS my thing.
Wow, the horror, that NB is not top to bottom hardcore political junkie conservatives who live and breath blog debating.
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I second that Blaze... I
August 30, 2008 - 18:46 ET by bigtimerI second that Blaze...
I love ya and all..but come on MrS has been here quite awhile and posted great conservative thoughts.
I, for one, can't beleive the fights going on between some great users here after yesterday...seems really strange...we should be united for once...come on, after the messiahs socialistic speech Thursday night that would make anybody see red, we need to pull together for once.
Geeze B...where ever you are, glad we hugged and made up, or we could put on a real show....lol.
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bigtimer :)
August 30, 2008 - 18:57 ET by MrShyHear hear!!... regarding uniting against the evil charlatan that is Barack "HUSSEIN!!!" Obama.
Like you and others have pointed out, it's the air or water or full moon perhaps (I need to go outside and check that) but it's definitely been tension-filled around here the last couple of days.
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Hey I agree bt. i love Shy,
August 30, 2008 - 18:59 ET by BlazerHey I agree bt. i love Shy, his music and alot of his viewpoints. However for the sake of argument maybe SHY should have shut his mouth and not used me Sarc and Free as a reference, when making his point.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 30, 2008 - 19:07 ET by MrShySeriously, why the 'tude? I made a reference in a post that was totally not attacking you or anything/anyone. I was READING your debates, obviously, so I was taking an interest in it, and then off-hand added that I never get into debates that get that heated.
Debate all you want, however you want. It's all good, believe me.
I'm stumped that something I wrote hit a nerve, as there's nothing in there that should hit any nerve.
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He's in "troll mode" today
August 30, 2008 - 19:08 ET by sarcasmoI'm living proof on another thread, and it's getting under his skin because I keep refuting his lies (for the record, I've seen no sign of ideals in the battle, only repeatedly-busted-by-me lies).
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
oy vey...
August 30, 2008 - 19:23 ET by MrShyYikes!
Now the two of you have dragged yourself into THIS thread.... oh no.... I'm out...... (cuz I'm just too shy for this sort of stuff :p)
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Shy, you explicitally made
August 30, 2008 - 19:13 ET by BlazerShy, you explicitally made reference to me Sarc and P.T. battlling over ideals and in my imho you thought it was a joke and downplayed it, and is where I took offense.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Shy, why haven't you
August 30, 2008 - 19:17 ET by BlazerShy, why haven't you accepted my buddy list offer ? Sarc, kiss my a$$, you are an anti-semite and truther, nuff said.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Wow Blazer!
August 30, 2008 - 19:27 ET by MrShyYou're all over the map, aren't you. You accuse me of not having integrity around here, then tell me to shut my mouth.... and now you want me to accept a buddy-request???
(hahaha.... sorry, but this does have me laughing....)
Actually, I did just see that request when I checked out your profile, so I had no idea, but then naturally hesitated after you initiated this brew-ha-ha with me.
Blaze, I was not belittling the debates you were having at ALL. Believe me! I called them barn-burners with totally respect, not with any snide or smug undertone to it.... BELIEVE ME! (again, okay?) :)
And if you do, I'll gladly go and accept the buddy offer, you bet!
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Blaze... I am going to
August 30, 2008 - 19:38 ET by bigtimerBlaze...
I am going to keep out of this after this...but there is one thing, the way they have the buddy list thing is awful, I know I have had times for a long while when I don't think to check that...I don't know how anybody can remember that all the time, they need a thing to notify a person that there is a pending request...believe me I am talking about being on both ends of this situation...it never used to be the way it is now...one knew right away.
Also...I really just read the threads too...and didn't think MrS was trying to offend you or anyone else...he was just talking about the barn-burners going on, not meaning to hurt anyone personally.
I know what it is like to get into a heated back and forth...so maybe, just maybe you were still hot, thinking Shy meant something personally towards you...when he didn't.
Well, that is how I saw it.
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Understandedly bt, I just
August 30, 2008 - 19:45 ET by BlazerUnderstandedly bt, I just felt Shy was making fun of our "barn burner" or trying to say we were being stupid and making fun of us and at he same time trying to make himself seem he was above the fray,, which is exactly what he was trying to do, and he got caught doing it.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Thx Bruce!
August 30, 2008 - 18:50 ET by MrShyI love to be loved.
I'm so sensitive, you know. I'm a musician from NY, btw, with a man crush on Bush. Did you know?
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i save my crushes
August 30, 2008 - 19:21 ET byfor Lt Colonels : )
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
Free
August 30, 2008 - 19:02 ET by MrShyInteresting. I come on to the DNC chat last week, every night basically, and partake with everyone and hang out for hours, and you go along with Blaze questioning my motive around here?
That's rhetorical, of course, because you obviously do.
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And don't whine about my answer. You asked.
August 30, 2008 - 19:14 ET by Free StinkerYou sure you want to bring up chat?
Because from my point of view, roughly half of your comments seem to be things like "I have a pet squirrel"
And don't whine about my answer. You asked.
Free
August 30, 2008 - 19:29 ET by MrShyAre you on drugs?
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Never touch 'em.
August 30, 2008 - 19:34 ET by Free StinkerNever touch 'em.
Mr Shy
August 30, 2008 - 18:33 ET by Dee BunkI'm not blaming any of those people for anything (well except Poptech - I mean come on - he's gone off the deep end).
It's just that I kept clinging to the past of how this place used to be where all of the conservatives got along for the most part. There were arguments but they never dragged on for days let alone week and months. Those things only happened with the trolls. I guess it was just because we were all so united and in agreement about the horrendously unfair coverage of Bush (even though none of us agreed with him on everything).
I also think the crowd used to be older than me on average and now I think it's most likely younger than me on average. I also think they used to delete more comments and ban people more frequently. I hate to generalize but I think people that are under 35 have a much more inflated opinion of themselves than those of us who are older. Men under 35 definitley don't seem to have nearly as much respect for women. I Blame Clinton! Hell I don't really know why - it's just a different place and I know it's never going to be like it used to here.
I don't know how old PopTech is but I'd guess by the way he's acting that he's for sure under 35 and probably in his 20's. Same with Trach.
Dee
August 30, 2008 - 18:42 ET by MrShy"It's just that I kept clinging to the past of how this place used to be where all of the conservatives got along for the most part. There were arguments but they never dragged on for days let alone week and months. Those things only happened with the trolls. I guess it was just because we were all so united and in agreement about the horrendously unfair coverage of Bush (even though none of us agreed with him on everything)."
Yeah, totally, same here. I know Free's had an issue with me cuz of my signature way back when, but now Blazer's zinging me with the "troll" tag. Unbelievable.
I'm not some hardcore debate blogger 24/7, so now my integrity regarding NB issues and politics is in question.
I in no way was attacking anyone, including PopT, even. Just pointing out that I don't care to debate on and on about something to the point that it's just name-calling quick posts back and forth.
As for the age thing, yeah, perhaps. I'll just leave it at that. :p
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I don't know Warner
August 30, 2008 - 09:50 ET by shawn228The reason McCain is there is because of his comments regarding
Indiana Jones, if you keep flipping through the pics, there are many
more pictures of Brenden Frasier than there are of McCain.
If it was a shot against McCain, I thought it was subtle
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B.S.
August 30, 2008 - 10:12 ET by HippopaulimusThe pic of Senator McCain is on the headline page and presents an angle that is quite similar to the artifact pictured beside it.
It was niether a mistake nor subtle.
White - does not mean racist
Heterosexual - does not mean homophobic
Male - does not mean sexist
Key word searches dictate photos
August 30, 2008 - 12:43 ET by pumapurrThe comment about Indiana Jones is right. Slideshow photos are automatically pulled from online photo feeds (AP, Reuters, etc.) based on key word searches of the captions. There are so many gazillions of photos every single day that there isn't manpower from the wire services to hard code "tag" them - so it's all from the caption. If the caption is misleading a bad photo match can be pulled into the slideshow. Then it is up to a human to pull the "weeds". But that is easier said than done - there's a never-ending flood of photos pouring into Yahoo! (They actually do a great job.)
More important slideshows, e.g. "Obama Speech", are intently combed through, ordered, and managed. But something like "Archaeology" is exactly where a bad match is likely to slip by and I think this is just one of those not too unusual errors. (But it is understandable why it looks intentional.)