A new independent study shows that deaths from terrorism have actually declined by more than 40 percent since 2001. This flies in the face of the constant Democrat mantra that states the opposite, that terrorism has increased since Bush initiated the War on Terror. It is a mantra that the media have helpfully spread for their friends at the DNC.
We've heard it again and again from the left in this country; deaths by terror have increased under George W. Bush and his War on Terror has failed. Along with so many on the left side of the aisle in the U.S., Barack Obama has said this several times in the past, too. At the Democratic debate at Saint Anselm College on Jun 3, 2007, for instance, Obama said that Bush's war has failed. "We live in a more dangerous world," Obama said on that stage, "partly as a consequence of Bush's actions..."
Of course, this talking point ignores one small bit of common sense. When a battle is joined, casualties are sure to rise until an end is declared. After all, when both sides are joined in battle (as opposed to but one), deaths are sure to rise before they fall, it being always darkest before the dawn, and all.
But that bit of common sense aside, the Democrats have been fond of using a study by Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank, research fellows at the Center on Law and Security at the NYU School of Law, to prove that terrorism is worse under Bush. In fact, this study appears right on Obama's own website in an entry by one of his bloggers, Deb Henry.
Bergen and Cruickshank claimed to have found a 607 percent increase in terrorism since 2003. They defined terrorism as an act of violence, or the threat of violence, calculated to create an atmosphere of fear and alarm. They didn't just count actual deaths and attacks, but added threats to their statistics. Who cannot see that such a method would wildly inflate the numbers?
But the new study by Simon Fraser University in Canada tells a far different tale than the favorite lefty study.
First of all, they found a major flaw in past studies.
The reason that the NCTC, MIPT, and START global fatality tolls rise so dramatically after 2003 is because all three datasets are counting a large percentage of all civilian fatalities from intentional violence in Iraq’s civil war as deaths from“terrorism.” For example, NCTC’s estimate for fatalities from terrorism in Iraq in 2006 is 13,343. This is nearly 80 percent of the total Iraqi civilian fatality toll of 16,657 for that year as estimated by the independent US organization, icasualties.org.
...But they are unusual because counting the intentional killing of civilians in civil wars as terrorism," as all three datasets do, is a sharp departure from customary practice. As Ohio State University’s John Mueller has noted: “When terrorism becomes really extensive in an area we generally no longer call it terrorism, but rather war or insurgency.” Moreover, as a July 2007 US Congressional Research Service report noted, NCTC’s Iraq data are “largely the product of sectarian violence, rampant criminal activity, and home-grown insurgency--[and therefore] grossly distort the global terrorism picture.”
As reported by the Moblie Press-Register, Newsweek columnist Fareed Zakaria wrote in praise of the study that "it 'makes no sense' to count civilian casualties in a war zone as deaths caused by terrorism, Mr. Zakaria wrote. Since the mid-1990s, thousands of civilians have been killed in war zones in other countries around the world, and those victims weren't counted as casualties related to terrorism."
Other polls also support the claim that the world is not "more dangerous" since the war on terror began.
A 2002 Pew Research Center poll of Muslim countries found alarming levels of support for al-Qaida and its tactics. In Lebanon, for instance, 74 percent of the respondents said they believed suicide bombing was justified.
Four years later, Pew polled again in Muslim nations and discovered very different attitudes. The percentage of people in Lebanon who said they thought suicide bombing was justified had fallen to 34 percent. In Jordan, support for suicide bombing plummeted 20 points between 2002 and 2007.
Such polls show a sharp decline for support of terrorism in the Muslim world since the invasion of Iraq. "Obviously, the war didn't fuel extremist views in Muslim countries," as the Press-Register notes.
Even more amazingly, this new study finds a 65 percent decline in terrorist attacks since 2004.
Also...
There has been an “extraordinary, but largely unnoticed, positive change” in the sub-Saharan African security landscape, with the number of conflicts being waged reduced by more than half between 1999 and 2006, and the combat toll dropping by 98 per cent.
A decline in the total number of armed conflicts and combat deaths around the world also continues.
All this seems to explode that old the-world-is-more-dangerous myth that the Democrats have promulgated for the last six or seven years. Chances are the media will not talk much about this study, the Democrats will continue on as if it never happened, and Bush Derangement Syndrome will continue unabated.
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Irrefutable statistic
August 21, 2008 - 14:27 ET by KC MulvilleHow many successful foreign terrorist attacks have there been in this country since 9/11?
Back on 9/12/01, how many would you have guessed there would have been over the next seven years?
!!
August 21, 2008 - 14:30 ET by Warner Todd HustonExactly!
That's true, but...
August 21, 2008 - 16:08 ET by FoolicanHow many rampaging pink rhinos have there been in Florida since 9/11?
Only one, but I'm sure
August 21, 2008 - 19:47 ET by dmntd1Only one, but I'm sure Medea Benjamin has probably made it to Florida more than once!
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
None
August 21, 2008 - 21:58 ET by KC MulvilleOf course, that's why I included the second question. As of 9/12/01, we had good reason to expect a number of attacks, certainly over the next seven years. In contrast, we've never had any reason to expect any rampaging pink rhinos in Florida. No foreign-financed terrorist organizations were trying to repeat any pink rhino successes. Osama bin Laden never spent millions in training, logistics, and planning other pink rhino rampages, but he did for terrorist attacks.
And yet, here we stand, unattacked as yet. You know why? Because like it or not, pleasant or not, we've become much more vigilant as a country. That vigilance is what makes the difference. The truth is, we could still get attacked at any time. But we keep on the lookout, much more than we did before.
The credit for that attitude change belongs to all of us, collectively. But Bush deserves at least an honorable mention for leading that change in attitude.
9/12/01
August 22, 2008 - 00:30 ET by mastersofdeceitWhenever someone brings up something like "the media helped lead us into war" or some such nonsense.
I always point out the 9/12 press conference with Ari.
Yeah, that's a gung-ho bunch of testosterone "cheerleading" us into a war.
LOL!!
It's not only here. Other
August 22, 2008 - 00:35 ET by ckc1227It's not only here. Other than the 2 war zones, there have been no significant attacks on American interests abroad either, unlike the previous 8 years where they were blowing up our battleships, our embassies, the Twin Towers, etc...
Come now...real facts don't
August 21, 2008 - 14:32 ET by bigtimerCome now...real facts don't matter when it comes to the enemy within...they have real hatred and an agenda to feed.
Looks like starvation may be coming to all leftist near and far in the days to come though.
Repeating a lie often enough isn't working...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hmmmm
August 21, 2008 - 14:34 ET by Warner Todd HustonOh, come on. I am SURE the media can repeat that lie more and make it work. Come on guys, you can DO it!!
Oh please, we shouldn't let
August 21, 2008 - 15:44 ET by dscottOh please, we shouldn't let facts get in the way of a popular liberal trope... This is bad for the liberal psyche. Next thing you'll be shooting down is saying someone is thin is racist. A liberal without their trope ceases to be liberal.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Bush ought to go on national
August 21, 2008 - 14:49 ET by mattmBush ought to go on national T.V. and demand an apology from all the "Bush Lied - People Died" liars.
"We live in a more
August 21, 2008 - 15:16 ET by general company"We live in a more dangerous world," Obama said on that stage, "partly as a consequence of Bush's actions..."
Of course Obama would end terrorism all together by capitulating and simply letting the radicals have their way. Or did he have another idea?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
He will meet with them
August 21, 2008 - 15:55 ET by motherbeltHe will meet with them without preconditions.
We already know their side of the argument: we convert to Islam and live under Sharia law.
What's Obama's counter-offer?
Yes...
August 21, 2008 - 16:00 ET by Warner Todd HustonYes, Obama will meet with dictators, murders and oppressors without precondition... but he won't meet McCain in a debate!
Can't we all just get
August 21, 2008 - 16:00 ET by dscottCan't we all just get along????
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
And more people died after the attack Pearl Harbor...
August 21, 2008 - 15:17 ET by Prester John...than died during or before it and the period between December 1941 and August 1945 was certainly more dangerous the years before.
Duh
Does the Left EVER think before it speaks?
Warner, you are obviously
August 21, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Roger the ShrubberWarner, you are obviously on the payroll of Halliburton, er, Big Oil, er, Blackwater, er, The Bilderbergers, er, the Joos, I mean Neo-Cons!
If so...
August 21, 2008 - 15:26 ET by Warner Todd HustonIf so, my frikkin paycheck is waaaay late!
paycheck
August 21, 2008 - 15:31 ET by soosanand waaay small I'd guess....
So, you DO admit being on
August 21, 2008 - 15:35 ET by Roger the ShrubberSo, you DO admit being on the payroll of (insert evil right-wing organization)!
I knew it!!! Hatemonger!
He's one of those unpaid
August 21, 2008 - 15:45 ET by dscottHe's one of those unpaid interns.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
dscott, LMAO!
August 21, 2008 - 22:26 ET by R D HelmDamn, that was funny!
-Dave.
Vote None of the Above in '08!
This is great WTH and it also supports my theory
August 21, 2008 - 15:33 ET by Dee Bunkthat success is what recruits people. Al Queda had more support after 9/11 because they were seen as powerful and able to take on the U.S. the reason it's down now is they are losing. Dems don't get it.
Something that also ties in with this that I read this morning on Yahoo (It was their top story but only very briefly) is study (by the State department I think) that showed the Clinton bombing of the Al Qaeda training camp strengthened the Taliban's relationship with Al Qaeda. It talked about how the Taliban had only been interested in a Theocracy in Afghanistan but then after the bombing adopted Al-Qaeda's Pan Islamic ambitions.
The article was there first thing this morning and now it's gone and I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was an AP article, did anyone else see it? I tried putting in all different buzz words that I remembered from the article and couldn't find it.
Bush Spied
August 21, 2008 - 22:20 ET by NortoL-kida died
Am I a terrorist?
August 21, 2008 - 23:48 ET by JWF"They defined terrorism as an act of violence, or the threat of violence, calculated to create an atmosphere of fear and alarm."
I regularly threaten to punch hippies, and slap pinko's.
Hippies and pinkos cringe and cry when I pass by due to the fear of punches and slaps.
As this occurs daily, I alone am responsible for 123% of the 607%.
Sorry guys, I have let you down and feel much shame.
About a year and a half
August 22, 2008 - 02:01 ET by HillbillyKingago a friend of mine gave me a book called Overblown.
While I didn't agree with everything the author wrote, I find it interesting that the study Mr. Huston writes about validates some of the ideas mentioned in the book.
For those of you interested, the link to the entire Human Security Brief 2007 mentioned in the above post can be found here.
I found reading the whole thing quite informative. (at the least read the 7 page overview.)
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Very interesting, however
August 22, 2008 - 08:23 ET by dscottVery interesting, however what is not written is the real credit going to the Strategery of George W Bush. His strategy of pinning down al Qaeda in Iraq and forcing them to make a stand there depleated the worldwide hard core ranks of the Islamic radicals. Iraq became the low lying swamp into which all the terrorists drained, OBL fell for the Rope-a-dope strategy. By engaging the terrorists in the place of our choosing, we created a central point to drain that swamp of terrorists for the entire world. If you will remember, the terrorists streamed in via Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia to do battle with the Great Satan. By concentrating the terrorist effort in one place, we were able to take advantage of our conventional forces to reverse the kill ratio on the terrorists. The advantage of fighting a terrorist action only exists in low density operations where the effort of one can affect the lives of many. This is totally opposite to conventional military forces that operate on the principle of overwhelming force/numbers to achieve it's ends (pincer movement).
In their flailing desparation, the terrorists lashed out at the Muslim population with all manners of horror and thus discredited themselves by revealing the true barbaric nature of their radical ideology BEFORE they held power. We should all note that when the radicals took over Iran, they didn't tip their hand until AFTER they achieved power and then resorted to their barbaric nature behind the closed doors of a national border and zero press coverage. The very same reporting of people being killed in the market place and school while aimed at demoralizing the US leadership to continue the effort had the opposite effect on Muslims living in neighboring countries energizing them to repudiate OBL thus in the end drying up support and cannon fodder for the suicide attacks.
Contrary to the appeasing, enabling, wishy washy liberals, W's firm stand against terrorism worked. If we had listened to the liberals, Iraq would be a satellite state of Iran with billions more dollars of oil money annually to fund more terrorist efforts to achieve their dream of a worldwide Caliphate. Terrorism in fact would be exponentially greater now than since 911.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Agreed, DS.
August 22, 2008 - 16:12 ET by HillbillyKingI look forward to an in depth account of how effective W.s strategy(although I have to say it's W.'s strategy only in the sense, that as POTUS, he gives the final go ahead on implimentation, not actually thinking the strategy up) really turned out to be. I think time will provide overwhelming evidence of the correlation between the US in Iraq and the decline of Islamic terror attacks worldwide and perhaps the beginning of the end of Islamic fundamentalism itself.
While I am aware that zealots will always exist, I hope that our efforts over there have laid the ground work for moderate Muslims to become the driving force in their countries. I suppose only time will tell.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937