Larry Hunter claims he is a "lifelong conservative." Yet, in his recent New York Daily News article, he also says he is voting for Barack Obama for president. The two simply cannot coexist. One has to be obliterated in favor of the other. And, regardless of the facile reasoning Hunter gives for his apostasy, this article does nothing to support any supposed conservative cause. It does, however, give the media something to crow about.
Larry Hunter begins by assuring us of his conservative credentials. A supply sider from the Reagan White House, Hunter had a 5-year-long stint as chief economist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, was a member of Bob Dole's economic team for the 1996 presidential race and was chief economist for Jack Kemp's Empower America. All of this does confirm his economic conservatism. But none of it says anything to his ideology otherwise. Still, regardless, we can take at face value his credentials and mark him as generally on the right side of the issues.
Yet, even after telling us his resume, Hunter says, "This November, I'm voting for Barack Obama." Naturally, he says his "colleagues were shocked." So should be anyone who thinks conservatism the best direction for this country.
So, why is Larry Hunter voting for Barack Obama? It turns out he isn't voting "for" Barack Obama, he's voting against the Republican Party. And that is NOT a legitimate reason to mark the ballot for Obama. Hunter's "reasons" are ill considered, filled with petulance, and self-defeating to the ideology to which he insists he hews.
The answer is simple: Unjustified war and unconstitutional abridgment of individual rights vs. ill-conceived tax and economic policies - this is the difference between venial and mortal sins.
There is, of course, much room for honest debate on whether the war was justified or not. But that we are fairly in it regardless makes the debate of little interest in the contemporary decision making process. Hunter's second reason, the "unconstitutional abridgment of individual rights" is simply absurd. There have been no such abridgments. If Hunter means the reputed abridgment of the non existent rights of the terrorists, it is even more absurd. Additionally, when compared to the actions of past presidents in past wars, Bush's efforts seem wonderfully measured and moderate. But it is his last part that is most absurd, that of the "mortal sins" of bad economic policy. I am no fan of much of Bush's domestic policies, but to use these failures as an excuse to vote for a party that will institute socialist inspired policies that will make Bush's policies seem as if it was crafted by Joseph A. Schumpeter or Milton Friedman, well that simply makes no logical sense at all! It makes Larry Hunter appear as if he has taken leave of his senses.
Admittedly, what conservative isn't mad at the Bush administration? There really are but a handful of things Bush did well -- or at least stood on the right side of the issue over -- so no conservative has been happy since he took office. So-called "compassionate conservatism" was merely an excuse for big-goverment, no conservative denies that.
Additionally, few conservatives trust McCain to be much better. However, we can at least say that McCain has a lifelong aversion to raising taxes and is a consistent budget hawk. Certainly all a voter can base his vote on is the record, not the rhetoric and campaign promises, and McCain's economic record places him in the conservative camp. Obama's, on the other hand, is a socialist's record. There is nothing whatever conservative or even moderate about Barack Obama's actual voting record.
For an economist mad at the Bush administration's economic record and calling that record a "venal and mortal sin" because of its lack of conservative principle to then vote for a man who's record places him on the socialist side of the line is just plain foolish.
But, what we can easily see is that Larry Hunter seems to hail from the abjectly isolationist, paleo-conservative branch of conservatism because the war appears to be his overriding concern.
But how we extract ourselves from the bloody boondoggle in Iraq, how we avoid getting into a war with Iran and how we preserve our individual rights while dealing with real foreign threats - these are of greater importance.
This claim of Iraq being a "bloody boondogle" is simple-minded rhetoric at best, an outright lie at worst. But to Iran his assumption is, of course, that we must avoid a war with Iran. That is not a given despite Hunter's squeamishness over the matter. In fact, his base assumption that war with Iran must be avoided places him in the immoral, Chamberlainesque, peace-in-our-times camp and that camp is not "conservative" but merely blind. And even as he reiterates his nonsensical feeling that all our "individual rights" have been violated by Bush, he hasn't a case to make there but one based on wild-eyed alarmism.
Then we get to Hunter's specificity on the candidates. First he says where he imagines the candidates stand on the war based on what he's heard them say.
John McCain would continue the Bush administration's commitment to interventionism and constitutional overreach. Obama promises a humbler engagement with our allies, while promising retaliation against any enemy who dares attack us. That's what conservatism used to mean - and it's what George W. Bush promised as a candidate.
Hunter bases his feeling on Obama's suitably "conservative" ideas on foreign policy on the man's rhetoric on the campaign trail and uses that as an excuse to bash McCain. OK, well and good. But, then Hunter immediately follows that with the next paragraph.
Plus, when it comes to domestic issues, I don't take Obama at his word. That may sound cynical. But the fact that he says just about all the wrong things on domestic issues doesn't bother me as much as it once would have. After all, the Republicans said all the right things - fiscal responsibility, spending restraint - and it didn't mean a thing. It is a sad commentary on American politics today, but it's taken as a given that politicians, all of them, must pander, obfuscate and prevaricate.
This is stunningly facile reasoning. On one hand he fully believes Obama's unsupportable campaign rhetoric on what his foreign policy will be -- unsupportable because he has no track record by which to prove his claims, quite unlike McCain -- but then goes on to say he doesn't believe what Obama says about domestic policy and can, therefore, completely blow off Obama's rhetoric! Talk about cognitive dissonance. How can a candidate's word be taken for gospel on one issue but not on any others? Either Obama's rhetoric can be believed or it cannot, especially in light of his actual voting record.
Then Hunter foolishly launches into off handed praise for Obama's "centrist advisers" and uses that as an excuse to support his candidacy. But the record is the record and Obama has not ever had a record of voting for any "centrist" positions. All his career, Obama has paid lipservice to centrist policy yet never voted for them. When push came to shove, Barack Obama's voting record has remained as far left as the worst of them.
But, for all his carping about Bush and the Republican's economic failures, despite his entire life's service as a conservative economist, Hunter gives us a contradictory line about Obama.
But here's the thing: Even if my hopes on domestic policy are dashed and Obama reveals himself as an unreconstructed, dyed-in-the-wool, big-government liberal, I'm still voting for him.
So, for all his interest in the economy, in the end, Hunter doesn't care. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Consequently, we see that Hunter's overarching problem is the foreign policy issue. He feels that Bush has illegitimately "spent over a trillion dollars on foreign soil - and lost countless lives - and done what I consider irreparable damage to our Constitution." He thinks that McCain will merely continue Bush's bad policies and this is enough to make him vote Obama.
If economic damage from well-intentioned but misbegotten Obama economic schemes is the ransom we must pay him to clean up this foreign policy mess, then so be it. It's not nearly as costly as enduring four more years of what we suffered the last eight years.
In this I have to say that Larry Hunter has no clue what the word "suffered" means. Our economy has not "suffered" too badly from the expenditures in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, this country has scarcely "suffered" at all from the war. Obviously, the war has touched only a small portion of our people and few Americans have been much put out by it. Even the battle deaths are miniscule compared to any of our past wars. (And YES, speaking as a father of one of our soldiers, it is heartrending to lose even one soldier)
Larry Hunter reveals himself to be Chicken Little where it concerns our current level of "suffering" and a complete traitor to all other conservative causes on nearly every level in his hyperventilating over the matter.
It goes without saying that one does not urge a nation to conservative principles by voting for the candidate and party that stands foursquare against every single one of those principles. One can legitimately refuse to vote for John McCain, but to actually and purposefully vote for Barack Obama is a direct stab in the heart to supposed conservative principles. One can only presume that Larry Hunter does not really find a principle an insoluble idea but considers it, rather, something that can be dispensed with on a whim.
And to be sure, being anti-War is not a "conservative" principle. It is, in fact, its very own principle, a pacifist's. Pacifism is not a conservative principle but a utopian's. It is a foolhardy idea based on a failed assumption about the innate goodness of human kind and it is a decidedly unAmerican ideal. Even as far back as George Washington, a truly American principle is to constantly be ready for war -- that being the only true guarantee of peace. And being ready for war also means to be willing to engage in it.
Larry Hunter believes that getting out of war, in any manner at all, should be the nation's only priority. And he believes with a faith of religious proportions that Barack Obama will fulfill that wish. Larry Hunter's only problem is that the train he hopes Obama will catch has long since left the station and that any moves to precipitously withdraw from the Mid East now would do far more damage to the world in general and the United States in particular and will pale in comparison to the economic damage the Obama will do to this nation. All following Hunter's prescription will do is give us a bad economy and even worse foreign policy than we currently have.
Worse, one does not fix a party by voting for its rival. If Larry Hunter imagines the GOP has strayed, voting for its mirror opposite does nothing to help right the only party that would even come close to his proclaimed principles. The axiom of cutting off one's nose despite one's face applies here in spades.
Larry Hunter has done damage to every cause he thinks he believes in with this editorial. He has damaged the Republican brand further, damaged the economy should enough people follow his recommendation, and endangered us all on the war on terror. He has also foolishly handed the MSM ammunition that they will turn on every single principle, but one, that he seems to claim to hold dear. And even that one is a dangerous one to pursue for this nation.
Sadly, in every area, Larry Hunter the "lifelong conservative" is dangerously wrong.
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Larry4Barry
July 17, 2008 - 05:20 ET by Jack BauerAnd also confirm his ability to back election losers. Let's hope he's three for three.
LARRY4BARRY, yawn!
You think the NWDN is out looking for former menbers of the Clinton cdministration and/or campaign who will be voting for McCain over Obama. I hear they're not too hard to find.
Warner - You Misread Part Of Larry Hunter's Essay
July 17, 2008 - 15:10 ET by zeestephenWarner,
Larry Hunter's bad writing has confused you.
Hunter writes:
"The answer is simple: Unjustified war and unconstitutional abridgment of individual rights vs. ill-conceived tax and economic policies - this is the difference between venial and mortal sins."
Hunter means that Obama's tax and economic policies are ill conceived.
You interpreted that to mean Bush's tax and economic policies are ill conceived.
Hunter's syntax is wrong, which causes confusion.
He writes "venial and mortal" when the correct order is "mortal and venial."
Also, Hunter's word "venial" means "easily forgiven."
Venial is the correct word, but Hunter should know that most people will see that word as you saw it, "venal," which means "corrupt," which would change the entire meaning of the sentence.
Besides that, Warner, thank you for an excellent essay!
book deal?
July 17, 2008 - 05:25 ET by AgnosticFirst, this country has been hurt economically more in the last eight years by corrupt business practices in both the public and private sectors than it has by the WOT.
Second, many people, Democrat (mostly Senator Clinton supporters) and Republican, are voting for Senator McCain only as a vote against Senator Obama. This is the same thing this man is doing except most I've listened to and read are still voting for the person closest to their political beliefs while this "man" is throwing everything he has proclaimed to believe in out the window for media attention and Obama support.
Third, coincidence or not the economy has spiraled downhill quickly since the Democrats took over Congress and no one in the MSM has brought that point to light. President Bush can be blamed for a lot of things, especially allowing his fellow Republicans to outspend the Democrats, but the economy was absorbing nearly everything until the Democrats started their Congressional attack on America – Senator Schumer’s letter being only the latest volley in the attack.
Fourth, the costs of the social plans that Obama and a Democrat Congress would enact will continue to stay on the books for decades if not forever. So saying the economic cost of these programs is less than a war is too simplistic for someone who is supposed to understand economics especially supply-side economics.
Lastly, does Larry Hunter have a book coming out he needs help publicizing or is he looking for a book deal? Those are the only things that makes sense to me.
IOW, his vote has nothing
July 17, 2008 - 06:22 ET by motherbeltIOW, his vote has nothing to do with conservatism vs. liberalism. He's simply choosing what is, in his mind, the lesser of two evils.
But, that wouldn't make for a good conservative-bash.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Out of many thousands of
July 17, 2008 - 07:15 ET by KillgraveOut of many thousands of conservatives who have held any positions of prominence, there will definitely be an odd fellow or two who are going to go against the grain.
There are many reasons for this. It could be simply that this clown is desperate for attention that he wouldn't get if he went the conventional route (i.e. promoting conservatism). As other people pointed out here, he may also be trying to push a book, and if he gets enough play (which is certain), then he will have a much better chance of a publisher picking him up.
And, of course, the MSM is going to look under every rock and stone for these clowns. It is similar to the MSM going over to Iraq and Afghanistan, and combing through hundreds and hundreds of soldiers until they can find a loudmouth who is going to fit their agenda.
There must be countless registered Democrats who are going to defect or simply stay home come November (the Obama Kool-Aid can only go so far). Something tells me that the MSM will continue ignoring the existence of these folks.
There must be
July 17, 2008 - 08:00 ET by FoolicanI fear that is wishful thinking. We have no real proof that the disgruntled Democrats will stay home on November, much less vote for McCain. On the other hand, we do have proof right here of a disgruntled conservative who will, by his word, vote for Obama. I wonder if he'll appear on the Sean Hannity show; I remember Hannity tore the last guy who had a concurring opinion apart on his show.
One thing you can say about journalists - they're good at what they do. They stick their nose in (literally) everything. They'll stand on their head to write a front page story.
The best that Hillary can
July 17, 2008 - 09:01 ET by KillgraveThe best that Hillary can hope for is that Obama loses big. That would clear the way for her to run against the old man four years from now, which frankly isn't that long at all.
She can't risk Obambi winning, and, God forbid, conning us in 2012 into voting him back in for another four years. In that situation, with his vice president running in 2016, this would forever push the Clintons out of the picture.
The Clintons will either be extremely reluctant campaigners for Obama (to the point of being an obstruction), or they may engage in outright dirty tricks. But they will be fighting an uphill battle, because the MSM will do everything it can to keep them out of the spotlight. The MSM can't have any disruption whatsoever in their party of choice, come the general election.
Obama’s Left -A Trojan Horse (Donkey) Approaches
July 17, 2008 - 08:25 ET by ZachJonesIsHomeThis election is one of the most important in our history
for many reasons. The most important of
these is that for the first time our government could be in a situation where
primarily only the voices coming from the extreme left could very well dominate
the discussion and legislative action regarding the critical issues facing our
country’s future for years to come. Please
Consider: Obama’s Left -A Trojan Horse (Donkey) Approaches at
zachjonesishome.wordpress.com
Located: http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/obama%e2%80%99s-left-a-trojan-horse-donkey-approaches/
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Vote 3rd Party
July 17, 2008 - 08:35 ET by WingletDriverIf you're dissatisfied with the current nominee for your party, vote for a 3rd Party candidate. On the conservative side we have Alan Keyes (who I'm voting for), Ron Paul and Bob Barr. Liberals have Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader. Since 1992 when Perot scared the hell out the establishment, the two parties have done everything to lock out any third party threat (e.g., McCain-Feingold).
Rather than perpetuate the hegemony of a two party system that's given us GWB v Dukakis & Clinton, Bob Dole v Clinton, GHWB v Gore & Kerry and now John McCain v Barak Obama, it's time for a real change. Really, look at that list. It's been 20 years since we've had a conservative candidate. Pathetic.
Don't forget
July 17, 2008 - 08:38 ET by Warner Todd HustonDon't forget Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.
Larry Hunter reminds me of
July 17, 2008 - 09:24 ET by stratmanLarry Hunter reminds me of the people that identify themselves as "Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal."
What a load of dreck.
That is the description of George Soros, who wouldn't dream of paying more taxes than he must or spend his money on frivolity without the belief of a return on investment.
Hunter's words are so bizarre in places that it seems he is being held captive by Leftists and using stilted, unnatural, patently absurd, juxtapositional rhetoric to signal in code his under duress confession like what McCain did while a prisoner of the NVA.
On second thought... nope... Hunter's just a schmuck.
RRAM Tough!
I'ts all New Speak
July 17, 2008 - 12:18 ET by NorthCoasterCheck out the words and representations of those in the Left and Media over the last few years. Words and meanings are twisted into a meaningless snarl like the New Speak syntax from Orwell's 1984. Even the coloring of the political maps shows the Leftist leaning states as Blue instead of their true Red! What a crock!
This election year is one
July 17, 2008 - 10:06 ET by oldArmyThis election year is one that really makes me dig real deep within myself for several reasons and I guess to keep this comment from becoming some long winded rant. I'll keep this short and sweet.
First of all....neither one of these senators are the types to really inspire to motivate voters. McCain is just not a true republican in my book and has in the past....stabbed us in the back. The final straw for me was his immigration stance. Barrack is just a flash in the pan to me. I think he is a great speaker but one filled with empty promises and misinformed direction. Iraq will not be as easy for him to pull out of as he thinks without the Iraqi government stepping up and putting in place a true plan on how they will slowly replace American Soldiers and Marines in areas in which we currently patrol and keep the peace. I don't see us going anywhere fast. Barrack....if elected will be sat down in a room somewhere with our intelligence people and be given the facts that will truly put him in a position to piss off his left wing buddies. McCain is hard for me to vote for because I'd rather not send a message to the republican party that I'm ok with how they have been handling things. I could go on for hours about how the republican party conducts themselves like a bunch of over-spending WHIMPS!!!
Regardless of how McCain has conducted himself....We're faced with seeing HRC run again in 4 years who is hoping beyond hope...Barrack gets his backside handed to him this November. Seeing Barrack win....will be bittersweet for me. Bitter because I'm not impressed with him at all being a conservative that I am. However, Almost makes it worth it because it will allow this great country to avoid HRC as president and that in my book ranks very high because I believe the woman is pure evil. I also find myself remembering how it took Carter to get Reagan.
What ranks highest in my book is the simple fact of McCain's possible supreme court selection. I also know he will always have our military's best interest in mind. Keep our taxes down....and last but not least.....keep Pelosi and Reid at bay. I hope.
About the Court
July 17, 2008 - 10:08 ET by Warner Todd HustonOne thing to remember. McCain won't be able to put conservative judges on the bench even if he wants to. He has to get them past a Democrat controlled Senate and they will never let him do it. This means he'll be forced to chose moderate to leftist judges.
true....however....we'll
July 17, 2008 - 10:16 ET by oldArmytrue....however....we'll have a better shot with McCain.
not to mention McCain won't
July 17, 2008 - 10:33 ET by TruthMongernot to mention McCain won't want to do that anyway
I draw the line
July 17, 2008 - 11:47 ET by 10ksnookerAt Comrade Obama who is a true Marxists. A Conservative who votes for a Marxist obviously has problems with his core beliefs -- hint, he has none.
McAmnesty is not a Marxist, more like a large ego acting like a socialist. In short, I think the only core principle McAMENSTY has is ME - ME - ME ...
It's a tough call ... I probably will vote for Barr, while at the same time supporting directly to any House or Senate candidate who is a rock solid Conservative. I will not give to the RNC or any of those 'general reelect committees'.
The story is made up ... out of whole cloth.
waiting for the book announcement
July 17, 2008 - 15:00 ET by wizardjrA wannabe like this only gets face time so he can sell something. I'm betting on a book release.
Conservative or Conservationist?
July 17, 2008 - 16:40 ET by deerjerkydaveSometimes people confuse the term "conservationist" with the word "conservative". That's probably what he meant to say. This guy probably has been a life long Nader supporter but the drugs are keeping him from thinking right anymore.