French media loses big court case proving Palestinian propaganda false, New York Times ignores shocking story... Why?
France TV 2 has lost a major court case in France that makes the lie to a major piece of Palestinian propaganda. In 2000 an incident occurred in the Palestinian areas that has since been used as propaganda for the Palestinian cause all across the world and the New York Times has repeatedly been a willing host for this propaganda. Now, however, it has been proven that France 2 perpetrated a lie that has given succor to terrorism. And where is the New York Times with this momentous news that proves Israeli innocence? Nowhere to be seen.
In 2000 the Palestinians began what they called the second intifada against Israel, a kick in the teeth to the Israelis seeking only peace. During the early stages of this attack France 2 TV, a state run television station, aired what it claimed was a video of a child and his father being shot and killed by Israeli security forces.
Palestinian sources claimed that what France 2 TV showed the French public and the world was the death of 12-year-old Muhammad al-Dura and his father, killed by Israeli security forces. The shock of this small boy being mercilessly shot down by Jews drew condemnation like a lightening rod. Supporters of Palestine the world over were outraged, posters appeared, protests were whipped up, postage stamps with the image of this child's supposed last minutes on Earth were even created in Egypt and Tunisia. The "death" of Muhammad al-Dura rallied support to Palestinians against the Jews. And for the last 8 years the New York Times has been right there with the "news" pushing the story for all its worth.
In 2002, for instance, a Times story told of how little Muhammad al-Dura was a "12-year-old boy from Gaza whose father could not shield him from a hail of Israeli gunfire." In 2000 a Times story told us of frightened Gazan Raji Sourani, director of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights, who told a pitiful story of the fear of his own children based on the "death" of little al-Dura.
''Like every child here, they are haunted by the image of Muhammad al-Dura,'' he continued, referring to the 12-year-old boy shot dead as he crouched behind his father -- film that is repeatedly shown on Palestinian and Arab television stations. ''I have never had a gun in my life. But my children -- who are doing pee-pee in their beds -- want me to buy one, because obviously Muhammad al-Dura's father couldn't protect him well enough with his bare hands.''
The New York Times has been at the forefront of allowing Palestinians and their sympathizers use the al-Dura tale as propaganda to further Palestinian interests. Dutifully, maybe even with relish, the Times has recorded how this image has been a rallying point for supporters of the Palestinians against the Jews.
There was a problem, however, with this little tale. The film showing the death of little Muhammad al-Dura didn't seem exactly right to some folks in France, in particular a bulldog journalist named Philippe Karsenty (among others). Mr. Karsenty didn't think things seemed right with the claim that it was Israeli bullets that struck the boy and his father. It seemed to Mr. Karsenty that the trajectory was wrong for bullets to be coming from where the Israeli forces were firing. Then he noticed that, despite the fact that the boy and his father were supposedly shot to death, no blood appears anywhere on the video of the "shooting." Not on the walls where bullets seemed to splatter, nor on the pavement under the prone, supposedly dead, figures of the two. Philippe Karsenty felt that the whole thing was a Palestinian fake and he began to agitate for the truth.
France 2 TV, however, not only denied any such possibility, but refused to show the world all the video before and after the supposed shooting that might clear the matter up and prove one way or the other. Philippe Karsenty continued agitating and writing excoriating France 2 TV for its obstinacy until the TV station decided to take him to court for "libel."
In 2005, the New York Times published a story detailing the case against France 2 TV. It seems to me that this is the only story that the Times published about the questions over the authenticity of the al-Dura video. I have searched the Times archives and found but this one story.
Well, it is now 2008 and the French court case is over and it is a stunning result. Mr. Karsenty won. The case of libel was thrown out. This is a stunning victory because Mr. Karsenty had to prove to the French court that his claims that the film is a fraud are legitimate claims. Karsenty presented enough evidence for the French court to rule against a state operated entity and this is a big upset in France because this does not typically happen. The state almost never loses.
Karsenty had several experts come to his aid as technical witnesses that the whole thing did not add up but the French court also at last had a look at some more of the film that France 2 TV had steadfastly refused to show up until this point. It clearly showed Palestinian operatives staging a faux fight between themselves and the far off Israeli security forces. It revealed fake rescues of unharmed people, fake casualties and staged injuries. What the court saw was the creation of Palestinian propaganda. In other words, the "death" of Muhammad al-Dura was a staged lie, invented as theater by Palestinian operatives to use as anti-Jewish propaganda. Karsenty, for his part, has demanded that France 2 TV admit their lies.
Now it is time for France 2 to acknowledge that it created and is continuing to perpetuate the worst anti-Semitic libel of our era. It’s the responsibility of the French government and, ultimately, the responsibility of the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy -- who is, for all practical purposes, the chief executive of French public television -- to finally reveal the truth.
Since the New York Times has used this story to the succor of terrorist supporters everywhere since 2000, one might imagine that the Times would rush to correct the record now that the evidence proving that the al-Dura tale is a lie has been accepted by French courts.
One would be wrong to assume that the Times was so willing to debunk its favorite anti-Jew story, sadly.
There is no story in the Times print edition on the Karsenty victory since the French court ruling was handed down on May 21st. Not one. All I can find is one mention in a NYT Internet blog, The Lede, by Times blogger Mike Nizza from May 21st, 2008.
And, instead of a story revealing how this al-Dura film was a lie, what does Nizza conclude about the court case? That the "debate" is "far from over."
The court’s ruling has not been released, increasing the likelihood that this round in a continuing debate is far from over.
Nowhere does Nizza mention that the rest of the al-Dura film clearly shows the staging of a firefight. Nizza doesn't bother with the fact that the al-Dura death scene was an Oscar worthy performance by Palestinian propagandists.
So what gives, New York Times? Why the reluctance to cover this new twist in the al-Dura story that you have used so many times in the past to support Palestinian terrorists? You have used this tale to beat the Israelis up for 8 years, now. But, we have final proof that this is a faked video. The Jews didn't kill little Muhammad al-Dura.
Where is your story now?



















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For a good look at
July 13, 2008 - 09:18 ET by motherbeltFor a good look at "Pallywood," the Palestinian propaganda machine, setting up scenes for public news comsumption, check out this 60 Minutes report.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
NYT - disgusting
July 13, 2008 - 09:36 ET by MaximusBraveheartThis is an outrage that should be reported on as a story in of itself. How the NYT is covering up the truth.
The NYT doesn't care what the truth is.
July 13, 2008 - 09:59 ET by SGriffisThey will print a correction to this story the day they start reporting on the terror that Israeli families have to live with every day. In other words, never.
If President Bush
July 13, 2008 - 10:00 ET by MidAmericaIf President Bush declared the story Top Secret then the Times would print it front page above the fold in a week long series.
Terrorist Sympathizers Lied
July 13, 2008 - 10:01 ET by acumenTerrorist sympathizers lied.
Integrity died.
I guess the appropriate
July 13, 2008 - 10:05 ET by gopsteveI guess the appropriate response to any posting on this site is "Are we surprised?"
The NYT just does not get
July 13, 2008 - 10:44 ET by wdhorningThe NYT just does not get it! IMHO, I think they are so "hell bent" on their "mission" to attack the right and "righteous" peoples, that they are now "blinded" by their ambitions.
Also, IMHO, they are "holier than thou" because they are quick to attack others for their weaknesses and too stubborn to admit many of their own flaws.
Imagine the headlines on page 1 of the NYT:
"WE SCREWED UP 'BIG TIME'; NYT HELPED FRANCE TV2 FRAME ISRAEL"
And then a footnote reads:
"To our readers: Just as we devoted 47 days to the Abu Graib story, we will now devote 47 days to tell you how we, the NYT, helped France 2 to "frame" the Jews for crimes they did not commit."
Wow! If the NYT did all this, hell would freeze over.
they get it ,
July 13, 2008 - 11:21 ET by larry on LIit's the fellow travelers that they are writing to. the general public is not cognizant to their agenda,thus no outcry for the truth.
well well well
July 13, 2008 - 11:07 ET by candanceFrance lied. No one died.
I look forward to our liberal compadres on NB come up with a defense for this.
Media Bias
July 13, 2008 - 13:32 ET by garyganuThe liberal news media is constantly using the excuse that bad news sells. They repeat the mantra: "if it bleeds, it leads". They claim that people will not buy their product if they ran mundane stories like "dog bites man" but they would sell out with unusual stories like "man bites dog". I hear these rationalizations again and again.
The truth is that the media covers political news in the same manner that they cover sporting events. When the home team is winning, or a local player sets a record, it receives lots of prominent coverage by the media. Like when a local baseball team is in the play-offs or world series, the media plasters coverage on the front page and they devote much time to the story in the prime time news. When a local player is nearing an all time personal record, like a home run record for a hitter or a win record for a pitcher, the coverage is constant and "in your face" until the record is achieved. Often their will be a local celebration or parade for a winning team or player. However if your team is in the cellar and the local players are under-performing, news coverage of that team will be buried.
It became crystal clear which side the media was rooting for when General Patreous was questioned by the US Senate last year. The day before the the Generals congressional inquiry, "moveon.org" took out a full page ad in the New York Times which portrayed general Patreous a traitor. The media ran the story about this ad, day and night for the weeks to come. This gave "moveon.org", and its slanderous message, publicity that was exponentially multiplied by the sympathetic media. During this inquiry, Hillary Clinton called the general a liar, outright. Clinton said that the only way to believe the surge was succeeding was to have "willing suspension of disbelief". This quote of Hillary's slanderous attack was also played non-stop on the main stream media. At the time, I heard few if any news stories about the progress being made in Iraq. Only slanderous acuisations against the general filled the mainstream media. The Democrats and the media became fixated on the fact that only 2 out of 16 political benchmarks have been met. Little if any of what the general actually said was covered at all.
Today it is clear that General Patreous's surge was phenomenally successful. Violence has been reduced by 85%, 14 out of the 16 political benchmarks have been met. Tens of thousands of refugees that fled Iraq, are now returning to their homes in Iraq. Children are returning to schools, business and markets are flourishing, the Iraqi army is becoming a stabilizing force and the terrorists in Iraq are all but completely defeated.
Why is the mainstream media not touting these recent achievements? Why is coverage of the Iraq war down 85% in the mainstream media, from a couple of years ago when US casualties and devastation was high? These are certainly newsworthy accomplishments. It is clear that the media was not rooting for these results. They do not see the US liberation of Iraq as a positive thing. They call it an invasion. Despite their best efforts in the propaganda war, against US troops, their side is losing. The Iraqi people are winning as a result of the US war effort. There is no news here that the media wants to print, just like if their hometown baseball team was having a mediocre season.
Unfortunately, the liberal media, public schools, universities, the arts and today's popular culture are all distorting many obvious truths in today's world. This propaganda campaign continues to rage against all of the things that have made America the the wealthiest, freest, most powerful nation that the world has ever seen. This propaganda campaign is so insidious that they are convincing Americans that we don't deserve wealth and power, because as a nation we are evil, racist, imperialistic, homophobic, theocratic, destroying the planet. and judgmental. When in reality, the exact opposite is true when compared with most of the rest of the world. The propaganda that this generation is getting from all sides is so strong, that it is actually our country's greatest threat. The only weapon that we can fight against it with is the truth, and it must be shouted from the highest mountaintop, every opportunity each and everyone one of us with a clear mind, can.
I remember the stuff they
July 13, 2008 - 13:37 ET by Free StinkerI remember the stuff they used to say about Reagan and always knew the MSM was slimy, but I never would have imagined they would run a Psyop against their own country.
Then again, from what I have read about the Vietnam war, the MSM ran a Psyop against their own country then . . . and it worked.
"But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could." --Walter Cronkite
Since Liberals control
July 13, 2008 - 13:50 ET by liberal_bug_zapperSince Liberals control 80-90% of where information comes from in this country, the war against their insideous propaganda will continue to falter.
We cannot hope to win when they control so much of the channels of information. They can even deny it and get away with the denial only being challenged by what they can label as extremist or fringe websites.
The Universities are chocked full of young skulls full of mush that have become a zombie force of force fed commie wannabes. As an anecdote of this, I was recently on a campus talking with kids about politics and they all talked about Marxism with glowing admiration and talked about capitalism with venom and spite oozing from their lips. The kids who didn't believe that way were quite, and by a far margin, the minority of the group.
Liberals don't even have to try anymore on campus, they own the campus and are running the right off campus right and left. Now I know the young Republicans are on campus and trying to make a difference, but they often meet abusive and even violent resistance to their presensce there, and the capus authorities don't do hardly anything to stop the abuses.
Univeristies have Womens Studies programs, Black Studies and Asian Studies, but don't have Mens Studies, White Studies or Caucasian Studies.... these courses just don't exist, and for the foreseeable future, they won't exist.
We are currently fighting a losing battle... and I don't think we should give up.... but I must say, it is disheartening. I want to show my daughter the freedom of the US, but I fear that she'll never know that freedom. Our fight may need to go the way of the first American Revolution.... and start with our own Boston Tea Party... The media are all just another political wing of the Democrat (Socialist/Communist) Party in the US.
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"The Great Depression, like most other periods of severe unemployment, was produced by government mismanagement rather than by any inherent instability of the private economy." ~ Milton Friedman
l_b_z...
July 13, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Clear thinker"The media are all just another political wing of the Democrat (Socialist/Communist) Party in the US."
L_B_Z... Seems as if it's working!
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Governors could teach media...
July 13, 2008 - 14:06 ET by Clear thinkerWARNING: This may be the most boring yet most instructive lesson in differing ideologies.
I caught a few minutes of a program on c-span yesterday but could not stick around for the whole show. Something flipped a switch in me with what few moments I did watch yesterday so I went to the c-span website today and watched the rest of it.
The program was a celebration of 100 years of the National Governors Association Conference. This particular forum had Governors from past and present candidates that held the governorship of their particular state. The host simply asked questions and the Governors would give their responses. Pretty boring stuff, right? Not so fast Tonto. Keep reading...
The ideological ways of the left and the right become abundantly clear in how either the Dem Governor, or the Rep Governor ran their state. If you have the time I suggest going to http://www.c-span.org/ and watching the whole affair. I especially urge anyone that teaches any sort of political science to show it to your students. After only a few minutes you start to get a clear picture of how each side governed, and why some were successful, and some were miserable failures.
This one forum could actually change some minds for those that live in liberal la-la land. And for a bonus, watching this forum will only reinforce anyone's love of conservatism.
Simply go to the c-span link above and scroll down to the "National Governors Association Conference: Saturday Meeting (July 12, 2008)".
If any of you watch it, please let me know your thoughts. FYI... The first 15-20 minutes is nothing but ceremonies so you can skip all the pomp and circumstance.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Anti-semitism is a national
July 13, 2008 - 12:58 ET by stratmanAnti-semitism is a national sport in France. Has been for centuries.
Is it any wonder that a State run media would bias itself as such.
I wonder how many NYTimes faithful Jews will finally see the light that their beloved newspaper is antithetical to their existence?
Nope the Bolsheviks over
July 13, 2008 - 13:43 ET by BlazerNope the Bolsheviks over at the party newspaper just do not get the whole capitalism thing, nope they just dont' get it and never will. Gray lady down........down,down,down,down,down..............
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"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
“J’accuse”
July 13, 2008 - 14:26 ET by needleThe Weekly Standard has an amazing feature article on how connected French and Francophiles to the last man, woman and child are far too concerned with their respectability, such as it is, and their connections, real or fantasized, with the well-connected Enderlin – Enderlin is playing superbly the French 2 “Moi?!” role that Dan Rather played so ineffectually almost four years ago for CBS – to even consider objecting to this outrageous lie. In fact they are literally flocking to sign a petition stridently denouncing the very idea that there should be ANY attempt to examine veracity of the al-Dura propaganda film or Enderlin’s competence.
Mon Dieu! France sure has come a long way since the day “J’accuse” Emile Zola decried the perfidy of what became called the Dreyfus Affair.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
I'm a little unclear...
July 13, 2008 - 23:35 ET by thebronzeAl-Dura was killed but by the Pali's, not the Israeli's?
Or is he not even dead?
That is...
July 13, 2008 - 23:38 ET by Warner Todd HustonThat is, indeed, the question. No one has any proof that this boy was ever killed, but we DO have proof that the bullets did not come from the Israelis. ALL we know is that this boy -- IF he was ever really killed -- was not killed by the Jews.
Palestinians are liars. THAT is what we know for sure.
Melanie Phillips article is a good read
July 14, 2008 - 02:34 ET by CiampinoSome in-depth stuff on this at
http://www.melanieph...