OK, I am wondering here if the hanging of a black Southerner by the KKK in the American south would be reported by the Chicago Tribune in the same kind of vague language of “cultural” murder as a recent Muslim murder in Georgia was treated? More likely, of course, the story would be immediately pegged to the racist, white motives that actually led to the murder. In essence that is how the Chicago Tribune mishandled their reporting of another so-called Islamic "honor killing" that occurred in Georgia this week. They wrote about the "culturally rigid Pakistani" immigrants and said that "honor killings" occur with "other South Asians" without ever once mentioning that this is more often than not a Muslin practice. Instead of pegging this murder to Muslim "culture" the Tribune makes it a vague and nondescript "culture" so that the reader is unaware of the connection with Islam.
The Tribune reports that 54-year-old Chaudhry Rashid, a Pakistani immigrant and pizza shop owner, strangled his 25-year-old daughter Sandeela with a bungie cord as they argued about the arranged marriage she was forced into. All the facts about the case were in the story but one: the connection to Islam.
The problem comes where the Tribune and other western news services are completely leaving out the fact that this is an Islamic custom. The Trib did its level best to avoid using the words "Islam" and Muslim" and replaced them with "cultural," et al, throughout the story.
The problem of "honor killings" and other domestic violence after failed arranged marriages is spreading as some culturally rigid Pakistani and Indian immigrants settle in different parts of the country...
Even laughably comparing this barbaric custom to what "European royalty" had once done.
Such cultural unions serve as social contracts among South Asians and other communities, where a marriage agreement is more about families joining forces than about two people finding love—akin to the arranged marriages of European royalty...
Last I checked my history books common Europeans didn't go around killing their daughters for marrying "wrong" and neither did their ages old Monarchs.
This sad tale is repeating itself all across the west as more and more Muslims stream into democratic countries and their girl children become acculturated to a world of freedom and modernity instead of the cultural oppression common in the Muslim world. As these kids begin to grow up acculturating themselves to our ways and as our own societies drift from our own practice of expecting immigrants to become westerners these clashes of cultures grow.
But, repeatedly, the western media is not reporting this as a Muslim centric crime and is merely treating the news as some sort of "cultural" habit. This refusal to give the whole story does a disservice to the reader and gives this murderous practice cover in the west by allowing it to hide in plain sight, invisible until the next young girl is murdered by a warped and evil family member. It keeps western citizens from understanding from where this practice comes and keeps law enforcement in the dark about the potential activity.
As the misnamed "honor killings" pile up one after another, keeping the public ignorant of why they are happening is a crime in and of itself.
(H/T NewsBuster reader Kurt Mueller)
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Saying this is like
July 8, 2008 - 18:41 ET by motherbeltSaying this is like European royalty is a stretch that rivals Joan Rivers' face!
In Canada not long ago, they reported that a 14-year-old girl had "died" and her father was charged with murder.
Another incident of that rigid "South Asian culture" I guess.
Nothing to do with Islam...the fact that they are Muslims is just coincidence.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Kinda like all those people
July 8, 2008 - 18:50 ET by sublight68Kinda like all those people who keep blowing themselves up on buses and in crowded marketplaces. Just a cultural thing.
Ask the Big O
July 8, 2008 - 18:54 ET by Redrowan2000Hey heres a thought:
Ask Hussein Obama his position on honor killings in Muslim countries versus honor killings in the good old USA. Let him dance around that one for 20 seconds and he is dead politically.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
In light of the recent
July 8, 2008 - 19:04 ET by sublight68In light of the recent decision by that judge in Britain, I'd like to ask Obama (heck, McCain too for that matter) if he thinks Sharia law can in any way, at any time, supercede any aspect of U.S. law, local, state or federal.
Muslim's here don't do
July 8, 2008 - 19:31 ET by TruthMongerMuslim's here don't do honor killings
must not be a Muslim thing after all:)
sorry to rain on your Muslim bashin parade and all...
My mistake. Typing up an
July 8, 2008 - 19:49 ET by sublight68My mistake. Typing up an apology to CAIR.
way to own up - high
July 8, 2008 - 19:54 ET by TruthMongerway to own up - high fiver:)
There's the thing though.
July 8, 2008 - 19:50 ET by ThatDudeThere's the thing though. Everyone is an individual. The culture itself encourages such actions. That is the evil part. I have no issues with a person of any faith so long as they are a good person. Belonging to any given group doesn't mean you will do a certain thing, but it certainly hints at the possibility. In the end everyone is an individual who should be judged by their own choices. The condemnation here is for the actions and the culture/religion that brought about such things, not a blanket attack on everyone who may fall under it.
culture
July 8, 2008 - 19:58 ET by TruthMongerthat's the thing, yes...
Christian "culture" has also encouraged this from time to time through the ages...
honor killings also take place in Hindu india:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning#In_India
honor killings happen at so-called "planned parenthood" in America daily - abortions due to shame - hundreds every day - most of these women are of Christian heritage and religion in a largely Christian countery - yet we don't call these "Christian honor killings"
A Christian father recently tossed 4 of his kids off a bridge in Arkansas. Another Christian father burnt his wife and 4 kids in Cincinnati a few months ago, etc, etc...
we don't call these “Christian Honor Killings” - and rightly so...
You have some nice lies there
July 8, 2008 - 20:06 ET by Warner Todd HustonDear, dear truthmangler,
You are trying to pooh pooh honor killings with your examples, but you are peddling lies.
It is NOT in Christian culture (since modern times) to perpetrate "honor killings." It IS in Islam.
Nice try at making Christians as bad as Muslims in this respect, though. Too bad your attempt to smear Christians and the west is so shallow, untrue and easy to see.
talk to Kareem Abdul Jabbar
July 8, 2008 - 20:17 ET by TruthMongerI'm sure he honor kills a few relatives every year, right...?
and it's not me declaring Christians are as "bad" as Muslims:
http://www.faithalone.org/news/y2000/romans323.html
get some Christian humility going dude, pick up your cross and carry it - I mean what the hell do you have to be so proud about, anyway?
at least I'm not a religious bigot and I'm still ashamed as hell about my terrible sinful nature...
Truthmonger, please cite
July 8, 2008 - 20:47 ET by ConservativeRexTruthmonger, please cite these same examples or even anything remotely similar, from any Christian bible:
al-Anfaal (8): 39-- " Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's entirely".
al-Taubah (9): 123--" O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near you, and let them find in you a harshness".
Nisaa' (4): 74--" So let them fight in the way Allah who sell the present life for the world to come; and whosoever fights in the way of Allah and is slain, or conquers, we shall bring him a mighty wage".
Kind of puts "Treat him as you yourself would like to be treated" in a different light doesn't Truth?
Islam is a foreign religion, it is not compatible to a democratic/republic such as ours. They will not fit in, they don't want to fit in. They have proven everywhere they set up house that they will try and make their host country change to fit their foreign religion. That will not happen in the United States. We will not bend over and cede anything to these heathens. Now or ever. Sounds rough I know, but they had better not try.
why should I do this?
July 8, 2008 - 21:55 ET by TruthMongerwhat does this accomplish exactly...?
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Mosaic Law and OT excerpts...
(From Deuteronomy 13 NIV) “If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you...and he says, "Let us follow other gods"...That prophet or dreamer must be put to death...You must purge the evil from among you.
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods”...do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him...You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death...Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray...then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock.
Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.”
(From Exodus 22:18 NIV) "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”
(All verses from the book of Joshua)
(Jericho)(6:21) Then they devoted to destruction by the edge of the sword all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.
(City of Ai)(8:22)Israel struck them down until no one was left who survived or escaped.
(8:29) And he hanged the king of Ai on a tree until evening; and at sunset Joshua commanded, and they took his body down from the tree, threw it down at the entrance of the gate of the city…
(The Amorites) (10:10) …(the Israelites) inflicted a great slaughter on them at Gibeon …, and struck them down as far as Azekah and Makkedah.
(God throws boulders down from heaven onto fleeing Amorites)
(10:11) As they fled before Israel, while they were going down the slope of Beth-horon, God threw down huge stones from heaven on them as far as Azekah, and they died; there were more who died because of the hailstones than the Israelites killed with the sword.
(There wasn’t enough time in the day to complete the slaughter so God makes the Sun stop moving in the sky )
(10:12-13) …Joshua spoke to God; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.”
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.
(Amorites) (10:20) When Joshua and the Israelites had finished inflicting a very great slaughter on them, until they were wiped out, …
(City of Libnah)(10:30) God gave it also and its king into the hand of Israel; and he struck it with the edge of the sword, and every person in it; he left no one remaining in it; (City of Lachish)(10:32-33) … and struck it with the edge of the sword, and every person in it, as he had done to Libnah. Then King Horam of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua struck him and his people, leaving him no survivors.
(City of Eglon)(10:35) and they took it that day, and struck it with the edge of the sword; and every person in it he utterly destroyed that day, as he had done to Lachish.
(City of Hebron)(10:37) and struck it with the edge of the sword, and its king and its towns, and every person in it; he left no one remaining, just as he had done to Eglon, and utterly destroyed it with every person in it.
(City of Debir)(10:39-40) and he took it with its king and all its towns; they struck them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed every person in it; he left no one remaining; So Joshua defeated the whole land, the hill country and the Negeb and the lowland and the slopes, and all their kings; he left no one remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the God of Israel commanded.
(11:1-4) People of Hazor, Madon, Shimron, Achshaph, northern hill country, Arabah, Naphoth-dor, Canaanites in the east and the west, the Amorites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites and the Hivites unite against the Israelites.
(11:14) All the spoil of these towns, and the livestock, the Israelites took for their booty; but all the people they struck down with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them, and they did not leave any who breathed.
(11:20) For it was God’s doing to harden their hearts (the Canaanites) so that they would come against Israel in battle, in order that they might be utterly destroyed, and might receive no mercy, but be exterminated, just as God had commanded Moses.
Doesn't accomplish anything
July 8, 2008 - 23:00 ET by ConservativeRexDoesn't accomplish anything if you do not cite the New Testament. The New Testament is what dictates a Christians life.
Not one mention of murder, retaliation or revenge. In fact, just the opposite. Which in fact, is my point. To a Christian, the Testament of Christ supplants what came before.
The Koran is a book of nothing but retailiation, revenge, and outright murder. That's some religion of peace if you ask me.
Interestingly off
July 8, 2008 - 23:08 ET by dmntd1Interestingly off topic.
Honor killings are not generally related to changing belief systems or religions. Honor killings are so named because the one put to death has brought shame upon the family by other means. Typically those means are refusing to marry the person to whom one might be promised, sex outside of marriage (even rape!), and occasionally criminal acts.
Now, if we were discussing the sharia law requiring death to those that leave Islam behind, these verses might, MIGHT, be pertinent. However, to most New Testament Christians, many beliefs from the Old Testament do not carry through. Two examples might be the unclean animal restrictions, and slaverly rules.
We have no Biblical context for 72 virgins for killing unbelievers though.....
<<edited to include>>
As for sexual infidelity being a reason for honor killings, remember Jesus' instruction regarding the adultress. In Islam, SHE is the guilty party, no matter what, while Jesus reminded us that the beast with two backs requires two people to form....
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
All very true. I will say
July 8, 2008 - 20:19 ET by ThatDudeAll very true. I will say I'm quite tired of abortion being brought up all too often around here. I know it's a hot-button issue(I'm pro-life btw) but do tire of hearing about it when it's not the specific topic. My apologies Truthmonger for letting loose my little pet peeve against you.
Back on topic. Murder is murder and using PC to attempt to encourage people to believe it is acceptable for their own reasons is completely immoral. My original response was only in the attempt to defend some from being guilty by association while still condemning the beliefs that allow such crimes.
I guess I misread you - I
July 8, 2008 - 20:29 ET by TruthMongerI guess I misread you - I actually took it that you were concurring with me in the first place - ah well - these things happen
tons of abortions take place due to shame and embarassment - therefore making them honor killings
there are over 3000 abortions every day in the US - a Christian nation, and many of those having abortions are ashamed Christians
yet we don't call them Christian honor killings
but if certain Christians here on NB want to start trying to pin honor killings on Islam, well the old saying is people living in glass houses probably shouldn't cast the first stone:)
I understand your argument,
July 8, 2008 - 21:15 ET by ThatDudeI understand your argument, but don't necessarily agree with how you relate it to Christianity. A key tenet of the religion is the sanctity of life. Also, why would it be called an honor killing when, as you say it is done out of shame for their own actions? Since many here are Christian pro-lifers, it's fairly obvious that they'd be offended when you suggest that their beliefs would lead them to do things such as this.
Honor killings in this case are part of Muslim culture and condoned by the religion. This is why some here would choose to pin the two together. The dishonesty of not connecting cause and effect is the problem.
many Christians are
July 8, 2008 - 21:31 ET by TruthMongermany Christians are pro-choice - and many choose to end their pregnancies due to shame (adultery, illegitimacy, etc)
I'm pro-life, and I believe that some abortions are in fact honor killings - because they kill a child, and they are done in the name of preserving the mother's honor, to save embarassment and shame - just like any other honor killing around the world...
TM: You're doing a Jackie
July 9, 2008 - 05:57 ET by KillgraveTM:
You're doing a Jackie Chan here with the multi-front sparring. Kudos.
Anyway, I think you are not conceding the difference between correlation and causation.
For example, what does being Christian have to do with a lady having an abortion? She simply being a Christian makes christianity a correlation to the abortion.
But I think many here (including me) can see Islam being causation to brutality. Their Koran is steeped in tribal barbarism and vindictiveness. Mohammed didn't preach about tolerance and forgiveness (like Jesus). He talked about killing people he didn't agree with, all with "Allah"'s blessing. This brutal culture provides a very fertile environment for which practices like "honor killings" flourish.
honor killings happen at
July 8, 2008 - 20:30 ET by motherbelthonor killings happen at so-called "planned parenthood" in America
daily - abortions due to shame - hundreds every day - most of these
women are of Christian heritage and religion in a largely Christian
countery - yet we don't call these "Christian honor killings"
Uh, no, we don't, because they are not. They are not killings that have their root in Christianity.
When has Christianity encouraged "honor killings"?
I mean Christianity; not your so-called "Christian culture."
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
honor killings happen in
July 8, 2008 - 20:39 ET by TruthMongerhonor killings happen in some fringe factions of the vast majority of world religions (of which there are roughly 4000 or so)...
the vast majority of Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc do not religiously condone honor killing now...
It's generally considered a perversion of the faiths by the majorities...
even the Jews - who still have scriptural orders to stone adulterers to death - don't do it anymore...
of course only God can undeniably answer on this topic for sure...
Whats the problem?
July 8, 2008 - 18:50 ET by Redrowan2000Warner, Whats the problem? you don't understand the culture. honor killings--mutilation--dog hating--suicide bombers--beheading-burqas--lefthanded shakes and American HATRED. It's all ok. According to the American mainstream media.
You need diversity training--how dare you criticize an established custom in muslim countries. where is your cultural diversity sensitivity?-- there will be sharia law in Detroit , and then the rest of us, there will be more honor killings and there will be another 911 unless we wake up!!
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
This isn't the first time
July 8, 2008 - 19:05 ET by bigtimerThis isn't the first time the msm intentionally leaves out as much as they possible can about just how peaceful some in the Muslim religion are...
This story and the way I have heard it reported so far has made me furious....
PCness with he radical Muslims within are going to be the death of us if we do not change our attitude here with this outrageous omitting bias.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I'm sick and tired of
July 8, 2008 - 19:15 ET by sublight68I'm sick and tired of anyone offering even the mildest criticism of Islam prefacing their statements with "the actions of a few in no way reflect the vast majority of peace-loving muslims" or some such nonsense.
Still waiting for that vast majority to stand up and reclaim "the religion of peace" from those few lunatics out on the fringe. Or at least offer a token condemnation or two once in awhile.
Chicago Tribune and Honor Killing
July 8, 2008 - 19:24 ET by merlin61There was an "honor killing" in the south
suburbs of Chicago not that long ago, just a few
months ago, where the pregnant daughter and
baby were killed by his setting a fire. The
daughter's husband was also killed because she
married under her caste. So, Chicago newspapers
are well aware of this tragedy, but don't want us
to know more about non-adaption to our
culture. We should be diverse. If this is
diversity, I want no part of it. I'm sick of the
word diversity, it covers a multitude of lies.
Yep... Here is a link/3
July 8, 2008 - 19:39 ET by bigtimerYep...
Here is a link/3 min. video of what we have to face...if you enter to the site afterwords and scroll down, you can see where all these enemies within are located...the msm knows it full well, we have some cities with their police departments protecting them, have for years, they should be run out of here, long ago, along with CAIR.
What we are doing ignoring this is beyond pathetic.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Diversity, huh? Just the
July 8, 2008 - 19:43 ET by ThatDudeDiversity, huh? Just the mention of the caste system being applied here enrages me. Obviously we have people on different levels of society, but in the end all men are created equal. The caste system is marxism at work. It enfuriates me that immigrants come to this country and refuse to assimilate. Follow the laws people. The majority needs to stop bending over to the will of the minority. You come to America to be American. If you don't like how we do things, then gtfo. Change for the sake of change and to appease in politically correct ways does nothing but hurt us.
they do this all the time -
July 8, 2008 - 22:06 ET by TruthMongerthey do this all the time - but the MSM keeps a lid on it...
The print MSM still can't
July 8, 2008 - 19:44 ET by d1carterThe print MSM still can't figure out why no one is reading the crap that they put out...soon to be out of business and they will blame it on the internet.
They had this story on my
July 8, 2008 - 19:59 ET by gopsteveThey had this story on my radio here in NY (not NYC, everyone thinks that if you are from NY, you live in NYC...I am about 400 miles away from there).
Anyways, the report did not mention the killer was a Muslim (shock), but they interviewed a guy who said the killer was a Muslim.
Take heart, despite the MSM's best efforts, we know...
Thank God most Iraqis are
July 8, 2008 - 20:18 ET by Biff McCainThank God most Iraqis are Catholic. We won't have to worry about them doing honor killings.
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
WTH, yea leaving out the "D" in many stories, now leave out "M"
July 8, 2008 - 20:29 ET by upcountrywaterA Corollary somewhere in the fairness doctrine.
No Danish cartoons for you.
Liberals STILL negotiate with people who want 'EM DEAD
IranianUranium
"honor killings"
July 8, 2008 - 21:20 ET by Dagny TaggartDon't forget, these girls have been sold into de facto slavery by their parents in these arranged marriages. The marriages are not about 'families joining forces', but are more a case of shopping for the best jurisdiction to move the rest of the clan to.
Having known women in arranged marriages, they have all been of the same type - girl is forced to marry someone they've never met; subjugate themselves into the new family; live as a slave; be kept from regular contact with their own families; be used as a springboard to drag every other member of their extended families to the west to sponge off our social services while segregating themselves from the rest of our society.
Better listen to Newt...
July 8, 2008 - 21:37 ET by Clear thinkerWe are setting ourselves up for destruction. Newt Gungrich agrees, see link below...
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/08/gingrich/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Lets face it, most Muslims are not civilized
July 8, 2008 - 21:48 ET by jefflebowskiat least they are not civilized in the terms we view civilized. There is NOTHING any of my children could do that would make me want to harm them. Even voting for Obama or pulling for the UNC Tarheels...although the latter would be coming close!
We always hear "the religion of peace" and all that but rarely see anything resembling peace coming from Islam. To me the majority are savages. Go ahead, call me a racist. Make my day.
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Well, I don't want to make
July 8, 2008 - 21:59 ET by Ruths husband BenWell, I don't want to make your day, necessarily, but I know a few Muslim folk and they are all civilized. Be careful about painting a whole group of people by the actions of a few. When there are about a billion Muslims in the world, it only takes a fraction of a percent to equal thousands.
Besides that, anger at a group of people that we need to learn to live with, whether you like it or not, is counterproductive.
“it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct.” - Justice Antonin Scalia
well said:)
July 8, 2008 - 22:04 ET by TruthMongerwell said:)
Um, no...
July 8, 2008 - 23:55 ET by Warner Todd Hustonthis is erroneous:
No, you see THEY have to learn to live with US! NOT vice versa. They come here and they need to leave their barbarism behind. If they do not want to do that, then they should STAY over THERE.
Well said:) "This liberal
July 9, 2008 - 00:07 ET by RESTLESS 1Well said:)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I'll second that
July 9, 2008 - 00:12 ET by Dee BunkIt's sad how some people can't criticize anything they do because they are afraid of being called bigots. It's especially sad when conservatives get roped in.
There are Muslims who are peaceful and fine but that doesn't mean we don't get to criticize the very large number who are not.
"Constantly attacking (peaceful) religions rather than politely sharing your own shows lack of faith " DB
WTH, I didn't say it was an
July 9, 2008 - 07:42 ET by Ruths husband BenWTH, I didn't say it was an either-or. Of course they have to learn to live with us. But there is a difference between expecting (and demanding) respect and raging at an entire ethnic group. One way leads to the strong alliance we have with Japan, for example, the other leads to the Concentration Camps in Germany. We get to choose whether to see all Muslims as the enemy or just the ones who want to kill us.
I can tell you that the soldiers fighting in Iraq don't have this problem. They have been working hard these last few years to build bridges to the Muslim people there with great success. We should take their lead.
“it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct.” - Justice Antonin Scalia
Ben, I only have known one Muslim
July 9, 2008 - 07:01 ET by jefflebowskiand he was from Pakistan. All he ever did was complain about how uneductated America was and how everything was always better in Pahk-ee-stahn.
I told him everytime I saw Pakistan in the news somebody was dragging a dead goat down the road. I also told him that I'm sure that the same plane or boat that brought him here would take him back.
Let's just say that everything I have seen from Muslims has been disgusting. So, yes, I will judge the whole of them. I want NOTHING to do with them!
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
WTH. Also .. I just
July 9, 2008 - 06:14 ET by Jack BauerWTH.
Also .. I just clicked into the story. The COMMENTS BOARD has been taken down completely AND DISABLED.
They've all disappeared down the memory hole
I wonder if this is because the paper was DELUGED with comments mostly making the same point that NOWHERE in this disgraceful apology for journalism, does it mention the most salient words: Muslim or Islam.
This is disgusting, cowardly self-censorship. It totally abrogates the special provisions in the 1st Amendment and the Constitution to defend journalism and the reporting of the facts without fear or favor.
these things are not equal
July 9, 2008 - 11:27 ET by UndercoverConservativewhat kind of @rsehat can take a cultural practice from another nation over TWO HUNDRED YEARS ago and say that it justifies a murderous practice that just happened here, last week?
It take a special kind of @ss apparently
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the s
I thought "muslims here don't do honor killings"?
July 9, 2008 - 14:39 ET by mastersofdeceit"Rashid, who is being held without bond, told the judge he wanted to observe his Muslim beliefs in the Clayton jail. He wants to follow a diet that forbids the consumption of pork in any form and requires other meats are prepared according to Islamic rules."
Go figur.
http://www.ajc.com/t...