With more fallout from the Supreme Court's latest 2nd Amendment ruling, the Chicago Sun-Times has published an op ed wagging a finger at the Supremes saying that the Heller decision will be a "tax on Chicago citizens," and that it is a tax to be "paid in blood and money." The Times scolds the Court with all sorts of dire warnings and worries that blood will flow in the city but, as with D.C., the violence in Chicago with its extreme gun ban often causes the city to top the lists of the most violent cities in America. So, why the Sun-Times imagines the current 25-year-old gun ban is worth keeping is anyone's guess.
The Sun-Times, though, is filled with woe at the Heller decision and offers the downright stupid solution of more gun banning despite the singular fact that their "solution" has miserably failed in every city it has been tried -- including the very one they claim to care about. Not to mention that the Times seems to have no clue about the Constitution nor any respect for the citizenry of that same city.
Thursday's landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision gutting a Washington, D.C., handgun ban can best be viewed, from Chicago's perspective, as a tax on Chicago citizens... A tax to be paid in blood and money.
Oh, the gnashing of teeth.
Because of the court's ruling, Chicago residents, in the not too distant future, likely will be able to buy handguns and keep them in their homes for the first time in more than 25 years... That new freedom will come at a high cost for our citizens.
First of all Sun-Times, the Second Amendment is not a "new freedom." It is well over a 200 year-old "freedom." No, not even a freedom but a right bestowed upon us by God and not in your power to remove.
The Sun-Times' idea of how the ruling will "cost" the city is laughable, as well.
Today, Chicago effectively bans its residents from privately possessing handguns -- a law in effect since the early 1980s -- and that's not going to change anytime soon... First, there will be reams of litigation, with Chicago taxpayers footing part of the hefty bill.
A child of 10 could see the solution to eliminating that "cost," Sun-Times. That "hefty bill" that the city will incur in defending the indefensible could easily be rendered moot if the city simply admitted it was wrong, followed the law of the land, and dumped its illegal gun ban. There. Problem solved.
Then there is this untenable line of leftist group think:
Unless the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, the city will almost certainly lose, and more guns will flood into Chicago as a result.
Again, in typical left-wing fashion, this concept sees no difference between the ownership of guns by law-abiding citizens and criminals making of them one and the same. Like most leftists, the Times proves that it does not trust the average citizen imagining he will suddenly become a murdering, psycho the second he takes a gun into his sweaty fist. And, how the new decision will cause a "flood" of new guns anyway is a mere assumption made by fearmongers as opposed to one predicated upon any sort of fact.
Now, look at how the Sun-Times imagines that this "flood of guns" will be used.
Handy for self-defense.
Also handy for blowing a spouse's brains out during a knock-down, drag-out fight.
Or for blowing your own brains out, when life becomes too much to bear.
Or accidentally shooting yourself as you go downstairs to check out a suspicious noise.
What overwrought tosh. Again, the statistics of what guns have been used for in parts of the country where gun laws were liberalized do NOT SHOW this sort of outrageous rise in accidents, murder and the like. It just doesn't. Yet, despite real evidence to the contrary, gun grabbers and anti-Constitutionalists everywhere insist on saying it does despite reality. It's as if they are sitting in the dark with their eyes tightly, shut saying to themselves over and over again, "there is no such thing as monsters." As if just saying "guns are evil" makes it true.
Well, to employ the old saying, Sun-Times, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
Then the Times indulges in the most bald faced absurdity about what will happen in Chicago. Along with the previously stated nonsense about how there will be a "tax" of "blood" on the city, the Times moans that more guns must mean more crime.
The court's decision will only, in the end, help criminals, by putting more guns out into society.
But, one must wonder how it could get any worse in "the city of big shoulders"?
In the Times' own paper over the last few weeks 9 were shot in one weekend, and a household of 5 people were found killed a few weeks ago. This is not uncommon as it seems every week we see half a dozen killed in the city.
Blind to the possibility that Chicago might find its crime rate go down (like it has elsewhere) when the citizens are able to defend themselves, the Sun-Times opens up the waterworks for a final, ridiculous stab at melodrama.
Such praise for the court's wrong-headed decision, though, does nothing to help pay the coming bill for Chicago taxpayers -- a bill that will grow for years to come -- or dry a mother's tears over the next child slain on the city's streets.
Here's a thought, Sun-Times. Instead of whining about guns, why not launch a program to encourage young black men to stay home with their children and to marry the mothers of those children so that those same kids won't end up in gangs? How's that for a solution that doesn't include destroying our God given right to self-defense?
Or does that idea make too much sense?














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>>>Unless the makeup of the
June 27, 2008 - 22:58 ET by seanrobins>>>Unless the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, the city will almost certainly lose, and more guns will flood into Chicago as a result.
What do they mean "more guns"??? I thought that guns were BANNED in Chicago? Hasn't this guy heard about the gun ban in Chicago? There cannot be MORE guns coming into Chicago, because there ARE NO GUNS in Chicago prior to the Heller decision, since they were BANNED decades ago in Chicago.
Let me repeat: There are no guns in Chicago. There is no gun crime in Chicago. No one is ever harmed by any gun, legal or illegal in Chicago because there is a gun ban and therefore THERE ARE NO GUNS in Chicago. Can't people get this through their heads? There are no guns in Chicago.
One more time: Before Heller, guns were banned in Chicago, and therefore there are no guns in Chicago - NOT A ONE, and therefore there is no gun crime in Chicago, and there are no crimes committed with guns, and have not been for decades.
Anyone who says that any crime has been committed with a gun, or anyone has been hurt or killed with any gun in Chicago over the past 25 years is simply a stinkin' liar.
I know this because Chicago banned guns and there are no guns in Chicago!
GOT IT??????
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
Chicago'ans can now go out and Buy Guns, and bring them home now
June 27, 2008 - 23:00 ET by JayTeeAfter all, they know the Supreme Court Ruling will back them up, and they can protect themselves in the Name of the Constitution.
Upon Arrest....they can Defend themselves. The Chicago Law does not stand against this Ruling.
Meanwhile, the Chicago SUN should ask themselves "What damned Country do we Publish in ?" Once Answered, they should read the Local laws of the Country, Support those Laws, and read History.....NY History.....NY fixed their Crime Rate of 2000 murders a year with a SURGE of Police officers, when the Gun laws didn't work.
Boots on the Ground work......Ask Petraeus.
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
Warner: "First of all
June 27, 2008 - 23:02 ET by GregEWarner: "First of all Sun-Times, the Second Amendment is not a 'new freedom.' It is well over a 200 year-old 'freedom.'"
Bingo, the Left would LIKE for the court to create new freedoms, i.e. the freedom to take a human life, as long as there is a layer of tissue called the abdomen between it and the light of day. And i.e. the taking of land by the government to hand over to another private party, simply because some tax money can be made from it.
Gotta love this one....
Sun: "Unless the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, the city will almost certainly lose."
And apparently if the Supreme Court does change, the United States Constitution will lose.
Newsflash to the Sun.......if the Constitution should be changed, take it up with state politicians and get an Amendment bill into a vote. That's how the Constitution is changed, and by design, it isn't easy!
>>> Gotta love this one....
June 27, 2008 - 23:06 ET by seanrobins>>> Gotta love this one....
Sun: "Unless the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, the city will almost certainly lose."
Can any gun-banning city point to the slightest of statistics that shows that banning guns reduces gun crime???
Even in that Shangri-La of gun-banning-meccas, Merry old England, crime is out of control, and crime with guns is on the rise. Who'da thunk it?
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
"Unless the makeup of the
June 27, 2008 - 23:13 ET by R D Helm"Unless the makeup of the Supreme Court changes, the city will almost certainly lose."
Yeah, they will lose a bunch of low-life scumbag criminals, and thus save the tax-payers a ton of money in the care and feeding of same in the process.
And there is something wrong with this?
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Firearm deaths in the US are extremely rare statistically.
June 27, 2008 - 23:15 ET by riff_raffAccording to the CDC's statistics from 2005, dying from a fall is 21 times more likely than accidental death from a firearm.
http://www.disasterc...
I demand to know when will our concerned congressional representatives take action to prevent these needless deaths due to falls. The US constitution guarantees no right to individuals attaining great heights, so it should be a simple matter to outlaw any individual ascending more than, say, 3 feet (or 1 meter to be politically correct) above ground level.
After all, even if it just saves one single life, isn't it worth it?
Riff,
June 27, 2008 - 23:25 ET by Indiana JoeYou don't know how close you are to the truth.
OSHA regulations require that industry workers must wear a harness and be "tied-off" if working from a height of more than 4 or 5 feet. It depends on the industry as to which height is used. The equipment used must be "approved." My department just finished getting new fall-protection, and it's apparently out-dated already. The old ones will be "destroyed" and new ones will be issued.
And when the regs change, we'll do it again. Nothing like guvmint regs, huh?
(btw, didn't I see you on "Underdog?" The cartoon, I mean.)
;^)
You ought to see how long
June 27, 2008 - 23:35 ET by bigtimerYou ought to see how long OSHA's logging rules/regulations lasted with the industry about ten years ago...take too long, but I am sure some people that work in the industry can just imagine, they were already harnessed with enough...what they were trying to do would of caused more deaths in the woods and mills.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Read this today, and I must
June 27, 2008 - 23:19 ET by Indiana JoeRead this today, and I must admit, I was even more shocked than when I heard the NYT disapproved of the ruling. </sarc off>
Warner, I can't find it, but you should post the video of Mayor Daley's diatribe about the decision. It's something to behold when King Richard is overruled in his own kingdom.
Knowing him, he'll institute a city "handgun tax." About $1000 sounds right. Make some money and cut down on handguns at the same time. A perfect "Chicago-style" solution.
IJ... Exactly...I heard
June 27, 2008 - 23:24 ET by bigtimerIJ...
Exactly...I heard and read that somewhere yesterday...I also commented on him too...what tickles me the most though is the NRA is going after SF, Chicago and others of the same...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
They're going after at least
June 27, 2008 - 23:35 ET by Indiana JoeThey're going after at least 3 Chicago suburbs, too. Morton Grove banned (I believe) all guns in city limits years ago. I thought it would fall to a 2nd Amendment challenge long before now.
Criminalize murder!
June 27, 2008 - 23:25 ET by jefflebowskiChicago just needs to make murder illegal and that problem will be solved. Making it illegal to have a gun sure took care of people shooting each other.
Liberal logic is an oxymoron.
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Jeff,
June 27, 2008 - 23:33 ET by Indiana Joe"Making it illegal to have a gun sure took care of people shooting each other."
No, no, no! Some liberal thinker you are!
You have to make murder legal in order to stop it. See, making murder and guns illegal didn't lower murders, so making murder legal has gotta work! We should try that before we consider making <gasp> guns legal.
There. Perfect oxymoron logic.
Indy, is this the same logic as
June 27, 2008 - 23:37 ET by jefflebowskiwe cannot drill our way out of an oil shortage? Is this the same logic as I cannot quench thirst by drinking liquids? Or I cannot end hunger by eating?
I'm trying real hard but just can't grasp the liberal logic!
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Yeah, yeah
June 28, 2008 - 00:08 ET by Indiana JoeNOW you're getting it. It's easy. Just think of the exact opposite of what's mis-named "common sense," and you're there!
The Chicago gun ban may have actually saved some lives
June 27, 2008 - 23:36 ET by riff_raffThere may actually be some legitimate justification for a gun ban in Chicago. Just think how many fewer Cubs fans there would be come each October if handguns were readily available. I know they're leading the N.L. right now, but that just means their inevitable late season collapse will be even more emotionally devastating than usual.
Sadly, despondent Cubs fans are pretty limited in their choice of how to do themselves in. They can't throw themselves in front of a speeding train because all of the train tracks in that city are on stilts. And hanging themselves is out of the question because most Cub fans are too stupid to tie a decent knot :-)
Go Angels!
Daley Video
June 28, 2008 - 06:55 ET by motherbeltHere He Is
His logic is flawless <sarc>
They're protecting elected officials by searching people who go into the State House, but they don't care about the regular citizens.
(scroll down to video)
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
An armed citizenry
June 27, 2008 - 23:25 ET by MCPO AirdaleSocialist fear an armed citizenry capable of defending their rights. That is what this is about. . . nothing less.
MCPO.... Perfect. "Never
June 27, 2008 - 23:27 ET by bigtimerMCPO....
Perfect.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
MCPO, exactly, which is why the libs support gun registration.
June 27, 2008 - 23:33 ET by R D HelmNotice that they do not require the criminals among us to do likewise.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Well, actually they do....
June 28, 2008 - 06:57 ET by motherbeltWell, actually they do.... but criminals being criminals, ignore them!
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
As I said in another
June 27, 2008 - 23:37 ET by Kenny BunkportAs I said in another post.
The left fears that this ruling will expose handgun bans for the sham that they are. They fear violent crime may go down as a result. They fear being proven wrong.
Watch for selectively manipulated data to almost instantly pop up showing some carefully selected category of gun crime rising as a result of the ruling. Watch for more heart-wretching stories of accidental shootings. Watch for more stories involving domestic violence and firearms. Watch for the exception to make the rule.
But also watch as violent assault, armed robbery, home invasion, and murder crimes involving guns statistically go down but not get reported by the media.
Lib's are clueless as to cause and effect
June 28, 2008 - 00:01 ET by riff_raffKennyBunkport,
You make an excellent point. John Lott's wonderful book, "More Guns, Less Crime", makes an airtight case for 2nd amendment rights. Liberals are incapable, or unwilling, of accepting the fact that private citizens lawfully possessing firearms reduces crime. It's just like their refusal to accept the established fact that lower confiscatory tax rates actually increases federal tax revenues.
Maybe the nanny-state liberals don't like the fact that there would be fewer victims for them to pander to? Maybe lower violent crime rates would mean they don't have that issue to use at election time? Maybe they're upset at losing one of their perennial boogeymen in the NRA? Or maybe they're just frustrated that private citizens being able to defend themselves will interfere with their feminization of America? Who knows.
If there's one thing these mushy fascists and petty tyrants in congress fear, it's a well armed and well informed citizenry. Hence their support of gun control, NPR, public schools and the fairness doctrine.
Kenny,
June 28, 2008 - 00:13 ET by Indiana JoeThe fact that handgun bans have been proven, time and again, to be failures won't stop the libs. They don't need no stinkin' facts, they have feelings on their side.
Ditto the inconvenient fact that guns in the hands of honest citizens actually reduce crime, just by being there. Where gun laws have been liberalized, crime rates have fallen.
"Oh my God, they killed Kenny!" - Stanley Marsh
I find it a little
June 28, 2008 - 01:05 ET by mostlymoderateI find it a little disturbing that liberals want to blame a gun for all a city's evils. Let's not talk about the real problems: illegal aliens and gang activity, violence that is glamorized in music and film, the breakdown of the structured family unit and raising children, etc. How about a mandatory death penalty for 1st degree murder in every state? Oh, that would be too "harsh"!! How about mandatory life in prison for gang-related killings (even if they are not murder in the first). Oh, that would be too harsh. Guns are not the problem. Liberal politics are the problem. Why not go after the criminals instead of the guns. Afterall, some of us want to be able to defend ourselves.
Liberals don't think
June 28, 2008 - 02:03 ET by 10ksnookerIt's all done with feelings.
Those who do keep and bear
June 28, 2008 - 03:28 ET by NonanonThose who do keep and bear arms are protecting the rights (and butts) of those who demand the government take the guns away from the citizens. But liberals worship big government and want it to control everything, creating confusion in its wake.
Why are liberals so opposed to truth and reality?
Why can't they see a right written out in black and white (gun ownership) but can see one that isn't (abortion)?
If guns are so evil then why allow cops to carry them?
June 28, 2008 - 13:00 ET by BritcomSurely we don't want our law enforcement officers being affected by such evil. Anarchy and OK Corral style shootouts will surely ensue among the ranks of the police force as they settle their differences with fellow officers, commanders, and innocent bystanders with a hail of bullets from their demonically possessed firearms. Oh, and what of the military, should we really let 18 year old kids who barely know how to drive, carry a pistol or an M-16 or a Machine gun? It's all so scary. </sarc>
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Lets fix the Supreme Court for good!
Communist vs. Statist '08
When will there be a challenge to the NYC gun ban?
June 28, 2008 - 13:49 ET by Britcom---
Lets fix the Supreme Court for good!
Communist vs. Statist '08