Obama's Propagandistic Iconography: the Making of a Messiah


A photographic essay of Obama propaganda and the Media's willing assistance with it

In America we have always been a skeptical people. One of our states even has a skeptical motto. Missouri calls itself the "Show Me State" proving that Missourians don't imagine they'd be apt to have the wool pulled over their eyes too readily. Consequently, when most American citizens look at their politicians they usually view them through a prism of skepticism and since the assassination of John F. Kennedy, our skepticism has almost bordered on the irrational.(Photo with Obama logo behind by Reuters)

The American press has traditionally been even harder on our politicians and government than even the average American. Since the first days of our country, the press has savaged, doubted, dug up dirt and attacked our politicians, seeming to never believe a word the pols say. From George Washington to George Bush, the press has been at odds with politicians. Yet, for some unexplainable reason, the pretentiousness and presumption of Barack Obama is being allowed to pass uncommented upon. The media especially is allowing him to make all sorts of claims that they should never allow anyone else to get away with. They are unquestioning with his claim to be the candidate of "change" and the candidate that will "reach across the aisle." Neither claim can be substantiated by the man's career thus far. He does not reach across the aisle and he is responsible for no great program of change. A properly skeptical press would ask for the proof of Obmam's claims, but they merely smile and allow him to ramble on as if what he is saying is unassailable.

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But the media is especially compliant where it concerns the Obama campaign's graphic designs, displays that can be so easily compared to religious iconography or even old style communist propaganda. The overblown, obscenely reverential posters featuring Obama's upturned face in Jesus-like poses have gone uncommented upon by what should be a hard-nosed, doubtful media. These over-the-top graphic images in the form of posters and campaign literature design are amazing for their obvious propagandistic style, yet the media seem not to find any reason to be off put by the absurdity of these graphics. Nor have they noticed the campaign art's similarity to communist imagery. One can't help but wonder why this blatant re-use of the graphic style used by Stalin, Hitler and Mao has raised not the slightest question in the minds of the American media?

Obama's most recent graphic arrogance took the form of a faux "great seal" similar to the one seen on the podium of the president of the United States. On Friday, June 20, Obama met with a dozen Democratic governors in Chicago. The room featured a nice nameplate for each governor, but in front of Barack Obama was displayed an amazing bit of presumption in the form of a seal saying "Obama for America" and taking the form of an official seal the sort one might find from a government office. (Seal Photo: Alex Brandon/Associated Press)

And the Obama campaign has been inundated with helpful citizen propagandists like Los Angeles-based street artist Shepard Fairey who is responsible for creating the ubiquitous HOPE poster, the poster that started a rash of artists and designers hoping to catch the Obama wave to fame.

The HOPE poster has a companion poster, PROGRESS.

As well as the similar CHANGE version. But there are many others out there.

And all of them seem to evoke the graphic tradition of communist propaganda.

One has but to view a few communist posters meant to keep the people reminded of the god-like status of their communist dictators and oppressors to see the stunning similarity that the Obama posters reveal with their communist progenitors.

It's impossible to view these communist posters without seeing how they resemble the Obama campaign posters.

Of course, it is one thing that the Obama campaign itself has so easily expressed its inner propagandist, emulating communist graphics. After all, they are certainly free to do as they like with their own image. However, that the media has seen fit not to comment on Obama's absurd artistic pretensions is bad enough, but to make matters worse, the media has been lending the Obama campaign assistance in turning Barack Obama from mere politician to religious icon on top of the campaign's own communist inspired graphics.

Let's take a look at how Cuba's Fidel Castro was once depicted by his supporters, for instance. Here are two images from a 1959 magazine called "Bohemia" where Castro was drawn in Christ-like poses, face upturned, a pious look upon his benevolent countenance.

One might laugh if Castro's murderous regime wasn't so serious.

But the media has also made of Obama a sort of religious icon with magazine covers like Newsweek...

Time...

And Rolling Stone.

Of course, it isn't just magazines that have given Obama the benefit of the look of a messiah. One might possibly excuse a magazine because they are, it might be remembered, in the business of selling magazines. A flashy cover might just make those issues fly off the stands a bit more, of course.

But, what about the news wires and newspapers? Aren't they supposed to be less interested in pure capitalism and more interested in the real news? Shouldn't they be less inclined to fall for Obamania?

Sadly, it looks like they are swooning for Barack Obama as badly as the "street artists" and magazine sellers.

So, not to be left out, Reuters, the Associated Press, and various other news services, news papers and media outlets have joined in to portray Obama in all sorts of images that recall religious iconography. Some images seem to show Obama with a halo.

Or preaching from the pulpit.

Surrounded by worshippers seeking his touch as if he were a faith healer.

Juxtaposed with religious symbols.

Or in otherwise ethereal poses.

One has to wonder why an otherwise hard bitten, cynical media establishment is allowing itself to be so used in this way? The obvious answer, of course, is that the media is not an observer, not a "reporter" or commentator on American politics. The media is an active participant and they have chosen sides. They have joined the Barack Obama team and are more than happy to put their normal cynicism aside to help Barack Obama to achieve elevation from a junior Senator with little experience with nothing to sell to president of the United States of America.

I’d love to say that the small handful of photos I’ve included in this report is all there is to the Obamification of the media. Unfortunately what I presented here is but a tiny handful of examples. The media have become the Obama campaign's propaganda arm in perfect emulation of the most blatant examples of human history. But, for all those other examples, at least they were generally under the thumb of an oppressive, despotic government of one sort or another. This time, it is the supposed free and open press acting the part of propaganda minister.


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Warner Todd, the MSM = Liberals

"The American press has traditionally been even harder on our politicians and government than even the average American."

I believe that this changed with Reagan.  Since Ronbo, the press has taken on an anti-American, blame America first tone.  They consistently give liberals passes while torturing conservatives for minor (even invented) things.  

The MSM has lost all credibility and the proof is found in the dwindling numbers of viewers and polls showing that Americans no longer trust the press.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

On the other side I believe

On the other side I believe the media (and liberal) workship of individuals who they saw as embodying all that was good (and liberal) to them began with John F. Kennedy. (This despite the fact JFK was hardly ultra-left wing.) The MSM bought into "Camelot" hook, line and sinker, and have saintified liberal public figures unabated since then. Since Reagan ran the country as a unabashed conservative (much more so than Republican presidents in the past) of course he had to be destroyed. He represented the atithesis to their liberal saints.

If you ask me Obama is the new Bubba Clinton, nothing he says or do will ever been seen as wrong, now matter how sleazy, unethical nasty or corrupt.

WTH

You've delivered a stunning visual essay of the media's bias for their saviour, the Obamamessiah.

Nicely done!

It would be interesting to see a contrasting visual essay of the vilification of John McCain.

A compare & contrast, if you will.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Hi bt....just the other

Hi bt....just the other day there was a pic of McCain on Drudge (not sure where it came from) that prompted me to post here wondering if they were EVER going to run a photo of McCain in which he didn't look angry!

 

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Um...mb

Not BT....but I get your drift, and agree 100%. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Oops! Sorry! ;-)  Must

Oops! Sorry! ;-) 

Must have been reading something by bigtimer just before!

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Remember the Branch

Remember the Branch Davidians of Waco. Perhaps we are seeing the incarnation of the Branch Obamians or Branch Barackians.

The Branch Stupidity

This deification of B. Hussein Obama is beyond my comprehension.  Really.

And the media pushes it, and the masses lap it up like Jim Jones kool-aid.  It's pathetic.   

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

it makes perfect sense -

it makes perfect sense - the left needs a religion - but Christianity will never do - the images are great however!

the left is all about image

the right is all about substance

the world is about image

God is all about substance

substance is rarely very glamorous:)

The MSM are allowing Obama

The MSM are allowing Obama to get away with a level of arrogance (if arrogance does indeed have levels) that would simply not be tolerated in any other politician. Not only get away with it, they are, as Rush calls them "willing accomplices."

Look at the collective hissy fit they had when George Bush said that he prayed for God to show him what to do! Yet Obama campaigns in churches, asks the congregation to pray for him to be elected so that they can do "God's work" and "establish a kingdomr right here on earth." And they not only don't have a fit, they glamorize him for doing it!

You are right, Warner; the other examples were done under oppression. The American MSM have enlisted willingly and cooperate not only freely, but gladly.

Shameless is too mild a word for them.

 

 

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Have you also noticed that

Have you also noticed that almost all photos of Obama are taken from below him looking up, as if he is above us all and larger than life? Contrast this with photos of McCain and you will see what I mean.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that Leni Riefenstahl was working for the Obama campaign.

 

You're right, marvl...they

You're right, marvl...they also have a tendency to get him gazing off into the distance, as if he is gazing off, seeing something that we mere mortals cannot see.

 

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Does this sound familiar, mb?

At least he's not staring off into the far reaches of the crowd, and then *pop*, a look of surprised recognition crosses his face, and a big grin, and a hearty wave hello!

Good riddance Hillary.  Hasn't it been lovely not hearing her screech for the past two weeks?  Silence, is indeed, golden....particularly the "Silence of HRC".

Having said that, tho, I am bloody sick and tired of the idealized idiot's picture all over the place.

And again, if Barry discontinues using his great "Obama Seal"....does this mean he's admitting bad judgement for using it in the first place?

Meltdown in 7, 6, 5.....

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

At least he's not staring

At least he's not staring off into the far reaches of the crowd, and
then *pop*, a look of surprised recognition crosses his face, and a big
grin, and a hearty wave hello!

Oh, my, yes! How I am gonna miss that!! LOL

I am sick not only of his image, but of the collective slobbering and Obasms of the liberals in the media every time he opens his mouth!

Can you imagine if George Bush had designed a campaign emblem for himself based on the Presidential Seal?

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Collective slobbering

.....collective slobbering and Obasms of the liberals in the media.....

mb...you are on a roll with the descriptive words today....I love it!  (which means I may have to "borrow" it).   What comes to mind is a pack of Chrissy's, legs all atwitch & atwitter....blindly slavering off after Obama.  Sheesh!

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

But He's Really Looking Down!

He's actually looking down his nose at us poor ingnorant underlings.

Marxists always think they know more than the people they RULE.

Stop this ignorant half-wit NOW!

Humorous secret messages?

After sending his new seal through the anagram buzzsaw, we get:

Obama for America = Macabre Aroma of "I"

Vero Possumus = Sourpuss Move

 

Americans know the MSM is NOT reporting on ....

With 4 $ a Gallon Gas, Americans want Good news.

The MSM is witholding good news...,

The Good news about Iraq

NOT reporting the GOOD news about how much OIL Americans own that is NOT being produced, the Sins of Omission.

Obamarama is NOT a substitute for Good news...he's done Nothing, in Illinois, or in the US Senate.   

He can only CHANGE his Mind to get Votes.  

I  must Confess, I have not seen a LOT of these propaganda Photos, they have eluded me and most of the people I know.  

Americans are beyond the MSM reach, and these photos show the  desperation of the MSM, and in  their desperation they publish these pictures to "convert" believers to the MSM way of thinking.

If you don't "Believe", then you don't watch. 

Americans have Religion, and many go to Church,  we WANT NEWS/Information/Reporting from  the MSM, not Religion.

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Good posts to all of the above, could not

agree more with all and yours Jay Tee. The only pics I have seen of him are on NBers, I cannot stomach watching any of the failed media.

However, WTH and all, this is becoming increasingly depressing. I imagine this is the media's idea, conservatives will feel a huge tide is against them and mentally and physically bow out of the election.

Warner.. and the contrast is ..in one's face

Warner.. and the contrast is ..in one's face. Here, one of the several pics of President Bush with his head cut off or missing. This one by Time Mag. Another was when the NY Times ran a front page feature picture of President Bush escorting the Queen of England during her historic visit to Washington last year, and in addition to cutting off his head, the paper didn't even know who he was.. identified him only as "an accompanist?"

Uh...OH...we have an XML artist amongst us..a PIC in a Post

That's Good Gary....A Pic in a Post.

NB is going to put up some more Blocks...you sneaked by...OR...they have changed their format options.

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

JayTee

Thanks - I'm glad that you appreciate the pic. For the record it's not something sneaky as I do occasionally blog on NB. On occasion, I'll post a graphic or a pic, when it seems it drives home a point, or offers interesting contrast. (;~> gary

Very sneaky, Gary!

LOL.      :D 

Great pic, BTW.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

The new "savior"

"Saviors" have come and gone in political history, and Obama is just another failure waiting to happen. This is because there are 6 billion other people on the planet who have their own mindsets, and so they oppose worldly "saviors" in the end, even if they temporarily embrace them in the beginning. This is because it has been proven that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" and so eventually the people rise up in protest or civil war against the "savior."

As for the images in photos and stories of Obama as a "savior," implicit or otherwise, such media is deceived, I promise you, and furthermore it shows you now naive such media is. In the end, domestic and world problems are well beyond the power of one man, and even beyond the power of all the world governments:

- the weather is well beyond the control of man and due to its adverse effects, humans, sadly, believe in a worldly savior to help them when it simply will not be, despite media hype

- internal forces of the earth, which cause earthquakes are also well beyond the control of humans, and still, somehow, humans are naive enough to believe one man can control these too

- the same forces create volcanos, and when you have fewer volcanos, you get a warmer planet due to less sulfiric acid in the air, a mitigator of warmer temperatures, conversely, more volcanos means a cooler planet, so who can control volanos?

- the forces of greenhouse gases are well beyond the control of man, (who can control the sun, the primary generator of warming and cooling, and even controls the amount of CO2 and water vapor in the air, both greehouse gases?)

- as for economies, market forces of 6 billion people on the planet outweigh one man, the feds, the WTO, World Bank, UN and the EU combined, so unless taxes are 100% of people's incomes, they tend to spend their money the way the want to spend it, which sways economies the way it will go, beyond the control of one man, that is, unless Obama want to implement a 100% tax on people, and make them eat what they are told to eat, dress the way they are told to dress, work where they are told to work, play when they are told they can play, have 2.5 children, exactly, etc, etc.

- as for wars, look at history honestly and you will see that war is the product of 6 billion persons, all with a mindset of their own, and whenever they get dictatorial powers (in truth) then bad things happen, and even democracies have fought against one another, because of a temporary unity of mindset, and the primary cause of war is either greed (I want what you have) or desparation (we need what you have or we will die) or we fear an enemy who has those intentions and capabilities to wage war and there is a need to strike first.

Yes, the media is grossly misleading and naive to itself. Can one man stop crime? We know he cannot, so can one man stop war, a political force far greater than the mindset of the common criminal?

 

"... implement a 100% tax

"... implement a 100% tax on people, and make them eat what they are told to eat, dress the way they are told to dress, work where they are told to work, play when they are told they can play, have 2.5 children, exactly, etc, etc."  

You realize you just encapsulated the reasoning behind communistic totalitarianism, right? 

And, for this country, that WOULD be "change." Believe it. 

Goto Hell!

Obama, read my lips... Go to Hell you Marxist!

Leave our Democratic Country Alone!  We don't need no stinkin "Change"

Wake up America!  Get rid of this ignorant half-wit now!

Chascv

YOU GO !!

 My exact thoughts. And he needs to take the ignorant half wits wanting to vote for him, with him.

 Homeschool your children now before it's too late!

The Democratic Party will have to register as a church

If "Papa Doc Obama" loses, it's going to be due in large part to a lot of independents and moderates finally getting sick of these crude attempts to deify Obama into a messiah. Maybe, just maybe, the media and the liberal political apparatus will finally overplay their hand.

So, how is it that Obama

So, how is it that Obama can speak from all these church pulpits, these tax-exempt religious organizations? What about the liberal phobia of a "theocracy," the famous "separation of church and state," and the assault on such things as the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, or a creche at Christmas?

How do these churches keep their tax-exempt status, when they bang the drum for a politician? How can the MSM be a willing participant in this? How can liberals do such an "about-face" on this religion/government thing?

How do these people sleep at night?

Wow Warner

I will be honest, I have not even read most of ths thread yet, but this post looks like it took a lot of work. Not sure I like you comparing Obama to the dictators, but kudos on the quality of this thread.

Not sure about the inside yet, so I will read it now.

if it weren't for my faith...

i'd be concerned about all of this, but I believe in Christ, and I know how the story ends! :)

I know how the story ends!

Amen mister joseph I'm with you on that

Well I made the effort to

Well I made the effort to read the whole thread unlike some other person here who shall remain nameless. 

What strikes me most combined with Obama flip flopping on the public financing promise in order not to have a spending limit is the Obama campaign from being to end is an advertising event.  We will be sold the product called Obama in slick media presentations. It takes a lot of money for an advertising campaign.  Like all sales presentations they will be long on positive images and short on critical details.  

It's our job is to negate the advantage of Obama's money advantage.  The GOP and 527s need to target a specific response to each and every commercial and Obama talking point.  Sales presentations like propaganda breaks down under exposure to targeted criticism.  People remember positive images however, that quickly evaporates with a quick counter response that causes them to question that image and help them realize they are being sold. Few things turn off Americans more when they are being SOLD.  Our job is not to convince people of Obama's WRONGNESS, our job is to sow doubt as to his ABILITY to deliver and help people recognize the salespitch.   

Obama plans a 50 state advertising blitz, we can turn this into an advertising nightmare for him by crafting the appropriate counter response to each of his commercials 

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

The OT talks about the

The OT talks about the money thing too. Amazing that the libs in the media are making excuses for him!! (Well, you know, Swift Boat....etc....) it's just sickening.

However, it is also shown that his money numbers are trending downward...maybe he has gotten most of what he is going to get...his campaign is not coming up to predictions, money-wise. And with gas and food going up, people aren't going to have so much money to throw around. Let's see......gas in my car, or donate to Obama....

I'm really hoping against hope that this decision of his to forgo public money comes back to bite him big time!

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

The Audacity of

The Audacity of Democrats.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

Staring In the distance / Posing

I think Obama is always staring off into the distance because he's trying to get a clue, and he doesn't have one.  Obama is extraordinarily dishonest and continually misleading - about his positions, his plans, his personal beliefs and personal history, everything!  And so is his wife.

And the MSM just keeps kissing up to him and swallowing his "pose" at every opportunity, enabling his idiocy.  Someone sure needs to honestly pin him down with some real, hard core questioning on a national TV interview - but so far, NOTHING.  Nothing at all, anywhere. 

And that's really strange because Obama certainly IS extremely dangerous to the future of our country, more so than ANY other individual to come along in my lifetime.  And this goes way beyond the Republican/ Democrat stuff.  Wake up, folks - please!

Hungarian Candidate

  Soros' sock puppet gettin' a little beyon' hisself.  Like a bad dish of cooked liver, I say, "It looks lovely, but I've had enough."

And the media says...

"Please, suh, may I have some more?" 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

And the Dems get mad about a "Mission Accomplished" sign

The Imagery of the Mission Accomplished sign (hanging on an Aircraft Carrier and not around Bush's Neck) really set off some Democrats, and these Images ought to make some Republicans pretty Angry.

But,  Republicans don't get any MSM Face Time Nowadays, so it's a Republican Insult that goes un-noticed, un-reported, and un-observed by the MSM. 

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Huh?

WTH, once again, full of hot air. There is hardly any resemblance between those pictures and the Communist paintings he produces. Out of the four, only one resembles Obama's campaign material in the least. (The one of Castro; although I admit Lenin's disembodied head is almost Obama like, but more angry - like McCain. McCain's anger is akin to Lenin's Communist rage.)

You are blindly trying to convince yourselves that Obama is evil. Oh no! His campaign material has him staring seriously into the future! Like a Communist! Actually, those hard faces are the faces of a superhero. Those aren't Communist poses, those are superhero poses. Jeeze, I mean, why don't you go look through some movie posters for pictures of heroes looking into the future with hard faces and compare THEM to Communist propaganda? Oh. My. God. Indiana Jones has a serious face, and he's standing confidently in from of a halo-like flaming image of a crystal skull! He's a COMMUNIST!

Or let's take the gloves off and ask WTH if he'd like to compare pictures of MLK Jr. looking seriously into the future with Communist propaganda? Or Gandhi? Or the Pope? Or Pres. Bush? He won't, because he knows, deep down, that staring hard into the future is a pose people make when they want to look serious, like a leader - it's the pose of heroes, visionaries and leaders regardless of philosophical affiliation. THIS is journalistic dishonesty. To take a common theme, a common pose, and suggest that it can only be compared to Communist propaganda, when, in fact, it resembles any NUMBER of superhero images in our popular culture, this is low, dirty and dishonest. THIS is bias.

I admit, however, one of the pictures reminds me of the old Japanese flag. If WTH had been earnest, serious and honest in this article, he would have pointed THAT out instead of trying to convince us that these pictures resemble a picture of Stalin standing calmly, holding some paper, in a pose that is nothing at all like what Obama is doing in his campaign material. Where does he show us a picture of Obama standing with a mild face holding paper while wearing a uniform?

Never. Because he's making this all up. THIS, this right here, is the essence of bias. Literally making things up. It doesn't get lower than that, WTH.

You people are all jumping at shadows. You are, to quote Indiana Jones, seeing Communists in your soup. You are all paranoid, and if it weren't so disgusting it would be hillarious. You would all be cute if you were children, but you are adults with a vote. And your vote is being influenced by people wildly shouting, "Look! A serious face! That means Communism!"

 

You people are all jumping at shadows


You people are all jumping at shadows

If you truly believe that, why do you bother coming here?

why free it's cuz

Chester (the jester) is bogus

of course

Support our Troops    

You a...

You a funny guy Chester! You know, how ya tell a story. It's funny.

Come on Warner!

Dammit.  Dammit all!

You didn't mention the Niponese Rising Sun behind Barry's head.  Dammit!

Sheesh...these lefties are too funny.

I still love your visuals here....sublime! 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Oh goody gum-drops, we've

Oh goody gum-drops, we've got our comedian for the night so far...

CB...another hit and run trollster.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

images

I just re-read your post and I realized you don't understand "the problem." It is not that these photos make Obama a commie, though what he is no one knows. It is that the photographers and editors have deliberately given Obama an aura, a saintliness, a god-like stature through the use of props, positioning, and even photoshop editing. That is what is objectionable, not Obama's pose, his studied stare. And please, don't quote back part and parcel about Communists and Bedbugs from the original post. Think back to Gov. Huckabee's godawful proximity to a cross if you can't really understand the fuss. Then it was you doing the fussin'.

Chester, I did not know

Chester, I did not know that they had braille computer screens. You must be blind to not see the semblance. Or, you could just be stupid.  

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

"Hardly any resemblance"... you're killin' me!

Please feel to direct us to these MLK, Pope and Ghandi 'campaign materials' used in your 'comparison'. 

And listen closely, little fellow, Obama is NOT really a super hero. So those BHO pajamas and sheets you have are 'just for fun' at sleepy time!

 

 

Shame

Although this has been a topic of discussion for some time now, an illustrative collection such as this should shock the conscience. An unbiased editor who had previously approved one of these photos as just good art or excellent photography, on seeing this collection, should be stunned, were he truly unbiased. However, I suspect there was only a hint of shame. At some point in the future that may turn into the classic "My God, What have we done?"

Warner... This is a great

Warner...

This is a great collage you have put together. It only strengthens my conviction that Obama is a Communist.Of course the pictures don't prove anything, but they sure fit the hype surrounding him, and they fit quite nicely with some of his so-called progressive thinking.

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Well, let's say for the

Well, let's say for the moment he isn't using the stylized poses favored by communist propaganda agents, but there is another group that uses a similar style - South and Central American dictators.

Next we shall see Obama's likeness posted everywhere on bill boards, walls and buildings like some banana republic. Viva Obama!

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

dscott...

But the dictators are using communist ideology and methodolgy to control their people, are they not?

Forgetting the pics for a moment, do you think Obama deep down is a communist? Just curious.

 

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Hmmm, Mussolini I believe

Hmmm, Mussolini I believe used this style and he was a Fascist.  Many of the prior SA dictators were Socialists of some form but not outright Marxist.  Pinochette comes to mind. I'll split the difference with you, they all were socialists of some stripe.  Effective propaganda is used by all dictators otherwise they wouldn't have gotten to where they were, they are masters of the personified image.  In this case Obama is made out to be the personification of HOPE. Hope has a positive emotional image. Obama's media team is making Obama equal to Hope.  Like all sales, voting is an emotional event and Obama is being sold as a positive emotion.

Obama, if he isn't a Marxist, he is certainly a Socialist, and they are all self serving megalomaniacs.  It takes a lot of chutzpah for a Chicago politician to claim he is in it to serve the public.  Whatever Obama is on the political spectrum, we are all certain he is an opportunist and flexible with his positions as demonstrated with the campaign finance issue. 

Let's put it this way, to this point has Obama advocated the outright nationalization of any industry?  I believe he advocates a tightly government controlled private ownership that is submissive to Central Planning, e.g. Healthcare  Or am I mistaken in this? 

A communist wants the means of production to be owned and controlled by the government.

A socialist wants the means of production to be controlled by the government but may or may not be owned by the government. They typically justify large companies on the basis they are easier to control. A subsidy is form of Socialism using indirect inducement to follow government control.

A Capitalist wants neither the means of production to be owned and controlled by the government.

When you own something, you receive the income derived. When you control something you are the decision maker to direct the type, quantity and quality of the product.

Investment in a Capitalist system comes from the profits/income.  Only those who use the product supply the investment source. In a Marxist and sometimes Socialist system investment comes from confiscation of individual income under the guise of taxes. Everyone regardless if you use it or not supplies the investment source.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

dscott...

Your points are well taken, but I'm not convinced.

Here are just a few tidbits that give me reason to pause...

Plumb Bob Blog...
Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by Communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists (this from Obama’s own book), worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign. Oh, and he believes opposition to the aims of radical activists will fail because the radicals embody the will of God.

Obama endorses African Communist.
When Obama went to Kenya in August of 2006, he was hosted by Raila and spoke in praise of him at several rallies in Nairobi.  Obama’s bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenya government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila’s “stooge.”

Accuracy in Media.
However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

Michelle Malkin.
The poster (of Obama) reminds me of the old Communist posters of Lenin, Stalin, ...

Besides, when someone brings up Marxism the first thing that comes to my mind is Communism.

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Guilt by association?  My

Guilt by association?  My concern is this, tossing out the term Marxist or communist these days is hyperbole and unfortunately the average American will discount it as inflamitory rhertoric.  I would perfer tarring and feathering Obama as a Socialist because I can make that case by what he said on the record.  The average American is leary of socialism, and that should be well enough to sink Obama.  Like I said in another post, we need not expend a huge effort to prove to the public that Obama is WRONG we need only sow enough DOUBT about his documented advocacy and sowing doubt requires way less effort.  We can turn the tables on the liberals very easily, they provided all the ammo we need, so let's not go over the top and then get ourselves dismissed as right wing cranks.  Yeah, I'm a right wing crank, but that's neither here nor there.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

Yes, guilt by association is a good start...

Did you read where he went to Africa and spoke at rallies endorsing his friend the commie? Fortunately his commie friend lost the election, but Obama was out on the stump campaigning for him.

I have no problem with folks painting him as a socialist because it's true, he has voted that way over and over. So that's a given. And if some people want to advertise him as such, that's fine with me. I on the other hand will continue to focus on what I see as a more dangerous aspect of his background.

I want people to know his leanings go much further than that, and as POTUS he can morph his socialism into communism.

Socialism kills the spirit, communism kills the rest!

 

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Try to hold it, Fidel, we're almost there

Huston says, "...Castro was drawn in Christ-like poses, face upturned, a pious look upon his benevolent continence."

"Benevolent continence"? Thanks for a good chuckle. Yes, I suppose it is benevolent for any of us to hold it until the next rest stop. But I think what you meant to say was "countenance."

Ha, ha. You are right, I

Ha, ha.

You are right, I muffed THAT spelling!!!

I've fixed it, thanks.

What Obama did with the

What Obama did with the Great Seal is against federal law.  The punishment for that crime is 6 months in prison and or a fine.  I did not see what the fine was.  "Always remember that you are unique.  Just like everybody else." --despair.com

I just saw that

I just saw that "Presidential Seal" yesterday and my first thought was "wow... he has some chutzpah."  He's not even formally nominated and he pulls this kind of imagery out?  Very presumptuous.

 This media overload of the Obamas coverage is driving me crazy, especially since all I hear from people I know is "Well, he's going to win.  There's nothing we can do about it now."