A small paper in South Carolina called The Statesman indulged in some blatant hetero bashing this week in a story about a high school principal who resigned because of his convictions that the school should not allow a homosexual club to be started in his school. Naturally, the paper tries to make it seem as if the principal is an unreasonable bigot. The paper even conveniently forgot the part of the principal's resignation letter that clearly explains why he disagreed with allowing a club based on sexual activity in a high school -- and the explanation had nothing to do with any anti-gay sentiment.
The headline of the piece, "Irmo principal to resign after gay club approved for school," frames this as if homosexuality was the only issue here but that is only an ancillary problem as far as the principal is concerned. The first line of the story affirms that the paper views the principal as a bigot.
The principal of Irmo High School has opted to resign rather than share his campus with an organization for gay students.
How rude of Principal Eddie Walker, eh? The headline seems to scream "what's this guy's problem?"
The Statesman also allows the controversy to be framed as a "civil rights" issue, even though it is no such thing.
Gay-rights group Faith in America says Walker's decision is based on prejudice that is harmful to students and likened his decision to policies that once allowed segregation to flourish.
Now we are likening keeping a sex club out of a high school with "segregation"? Talk about absurd and dangerous hyperbole.
The Statesman then excerpts Principal Walker's resignation letter to the fact that he was resigning because of a "recent conflict involving my professional and religious beliefs" concerning the approval of the gay club by the school board. Conveniently for the paper's pro-gay bias, however, they left out the full explanation of why the principal was resigning, making it seems as if his bigoted religious beliefs was all there was to it.
Here is the part the paper "forgot" to include in the story:
The formation of this club conflicts with my professional beliefs in that we do not have other clubs at Irmo High school based on sexual orientation, sexual preference, or sexual activity. In fact our sex education curriculum is abstinence based. I feel the formation of a Gay/Straight Alliance Club at Irmo High school implies that students joining the club will have chosen to or will choose to engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex, opposite sex, or members of both sexes.
This is exactly right on. Why are we promoting "clubs" in a high school based on sexual activity? Do we have a porno club at Irmo high school? Why not? How about a polygamy club? Maybe a bestiality club?
In fact, we don't want to be encouraging kids to be interested in ANY club that would promote sexual activity, do we? Just as Principal Walker said -- and the paper refused to report -- we do not want to encourage our students toward sexual activity at all.
Ridiculously, the cowards at the school board who haven't the spine to stand up to these radical gay activists are hiding behind a Federal law.
"...our attorneys have advised us that because Irmo High School has permitted the formation of a number of non-curricular clubs at the school, the federal law known as the Equal Access Act does not permit the school to discriminate against a club based on the club's purpose and viewpoint by not allowing it to form unless the purpose of the club is unlawful."
Like I said, if the kids wanted to form a "club" that supports pornography, would that be OK? After all, porn is legal. How about a "club" that promotes dancing strippers? A beer drinking club? How about a club that specifies support of terrorists? One that promotes Jew hatred, supports the KKK, the Nazis, gangs, the Black Panthers or Louis Farrakhan? Wouldn't the school have a vested interest in stopping these sorts of clubs based on hatred, anti-Americanism, and anti-social behavior? Is the school so bereft of moral convictions that they'd bend over for every socially backward and dangerous "club" to be formed just because the kids wanted it?
But all that aside, why did The Statesman decide not to give a full report about exactly why Principal Walker was resigning? Was it because reporting only some of the facts made Mr. Walker seem less sympathetic and more homophobic?
Looks like it to me.
Irmo principal Eddie Walker's resignation letter (PDF)
Lexington 5 statement on Eddie Walker resignation (PDF)
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Equal Access
May 21, 2008 - 21:36 ET by scamoramaDamn!
I sure wish there'd been an Equal Access Law when I was in school. There absolutely would have been a "Porn Club" at CHS.
To quote a wise man, "I guarantee!"
Political Correctness Is Destroying the USA!
May 21, 2008 - 21:46 ET by jefflebowskiCan anyone imagine this happening 25 years ago? Why is it wrong for someone to not like homosexuality? I don't. Political correctness has taught us how we must think or act...or there is something wrong with us! A principal can be against a gay club because he would be also against a club promoting any sexuality...but heaven forbid that he just outright doesn't like homosexuality!
Political correctness is destroying us and we are stupid to just sit back and let it happen. Let's face it...the only person who can be criticized or ridiculed is the white male in this country!
Jeff Lebowski - Angry White Dude (heterosexual too, thank you very much)
don't worry so much - God
May 21, 2008 - 21:55 ET by TruthMongerdon't worry so much - God eventually steps in...
like Sodom, Gamorrah, Roman Empire...
He don't do PC, has a temper too - so I'll be standing well out of the way
over there ------------------------------------------------>
tMonger, So when did the God Nuk Rome?
May 22, 2008 - 01:35 ET by upcountrywaterThe Art Bellian abducted folk equate brimstone and fire to H-bombs and such.
With regards to God's way of doing the greening to His creation..
who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to
you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men,
inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof,” (Gen. 19:8).
The context of
this verse is that two angels had visited Lot in Sodom in an effort
to get him to leave the city since it was about to be destroyed.
Apparently these two angels appeared in the form of men.
Meanwhile, many of the men of the city, who were homosexual, wanted
to have relations with the two men, not knowing they were really
angels. But, Lot offered his daughters to the crowd of people
instead. The crowd refused the daughters and began to
forcibly enter Lot's home in order to abduct the two men/angels so
that they might molest them sexually. The angels then blinded
the people in the crowd and the crowd partied on.
Pillers of salt in Rome Italy?
Rome was next week? a year later? when EXACTLY
oh yea maybe next year?
Ain't really waiting for a reply..
kuz
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
God may not have rained
May 22, 2008 - 10:06 ET by taterGod may not have rained fire and brimstone on the Roman Empire but the combination of social and moral decay (along with health problems and political corruption) are what led to the decline of the empire. Read up...they allowed abortion, infanticide, homosexuality, other sexual debauchery. Human beings against what God wants is what led to the decline. I fear the USA is well on it's way.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
tater, you missed the point. YOU "Read-up"
May 22, 2008 - 14:48 ET by upcountrywaterWhere are the BIBLE PASSAGES discribing; brimstone and fire leveling Rome?
Where is Lot or his counter-part, packing up and running out of the city, before this happened?
This IS MY point.
Rome was humming along just fine, 200 years AFTER the Bible was written.
I fear the USA is well on it's way.
Yea me too
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
why do we need Bible
May 22, 2008 - 16:45 ET by TruthMongerwhy do we need Bible passages for this?
God did not retire on January 1, 0 A.D. my friend...
try Sunday school - it's fun - and you get to make crafts...
don't listen to that
May 22, 2008 - 16:43 ET by TruthMongerdon't listen to that UCW!
the Roman empire is still going strong - my mistake
you go girl
I think I meant the SF49ers, not Rome
Gay Club
May 21, 2008 - 22:17 ET by WR JonasIt's so difficult to read this report and to not feel like we are doomed.
Are there any concerned parents left in America ? How can the people of Irmo , South Carolina allow their children to be manipulated or worse , recruited by these deviates ?
The press is simply the propaganda arm of the Liberal Democratic Party. I cannot imagine how Mr. Walker must feel.
The big problem is
May 21, 2008 - 22:29 ET by jefflebowskiLAWYERS! Independent School Districts are scared to death of them! And scumbag lawyers (sorry to be redundant) just salivate over some rediculous lawsuit against the ISD and their deep pockets.
The fear of lawsuits has led to this lunacy. Also, it has brought on other school rules that prohibit your child not being able to take a aspirin to school or be suspended. I hate lawyers. I hate lawyers. I hate lawyers.
WR Jonas
May 21, 2008 - 22:55 ET by shawn228No one is forcing the children of these parents to join these clubs. The people just want the right to have their own clubs.
So, wanting a club and not
May 21, 2008 - 23:46 ET by CortillaenSo, wanting a club and not forcing people to join should be the only requisites for forming one? What if I were to demand the right to form a pornography club and place fliers all over campus? I'm not forcing anyone to join by doing so. How about a club dedicated to wishing for the death of Democrats? I'm sure that would go over swell. </sarc>
Wanting something has, and will, never make getting it acceptable. The simple fact is that this club is literally based around sex, and the principle could not agree with that. Personally, I don't believe the school should be endorsing sexuality either.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
Cort
May 21, 2008 - 23:50 ET by shawn228This has already been addressed. These children are too young to view pornography or anything than can be viewed by a minor.
As far as wishing for the death of somebody, you have to be a member of Kos or Du for that.
Congrats on
May 22, 2008 - 00:38 ET by CortillaenCongrats on missing/avoiding the point. Desiring a club does not make forming it appropriate. Most people would not find it appropriate for the school to sanction a club explicitly based on sexuality.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
Its not just about sexuality Cort
May 22, 2008 - 09:20 ET by shawn228Even in this day and age, some gays feel like outcast. Heck even the author of this thread compared them to pediphiles.
They want to have a place to discuss how they should feel in society and get together. You make it sound like, they want to have huge gay orgy in the cafeteria
I've encouraged my son and
May 22, 2008 - 00:31 ET by contraryI've encouraged my son and his friends to form a alcohol club. He has been on and off again for the last 3 months, but getting together with fellow drinking buddies could be a good way to find identity. Think I'll bring this story to the principal's attention. Thanks for the information
"Republicans always get a huge pass on the racist issue. Huck is just another example. Provided they don't start up with the N word, they seem able to pander directly to the racist vote."
-- Chuck Davis, intellectual heavyweight, bigot
contray
May 22, 2008 - 00:38 ET by shawn228Just like my post to Cort regarding pornography. Drinking under 21 is illegal. Schools don't want to promote anything illegal. They also don't want to promote killing of any race, unless you agree with Warner that being gay is similar to Nazis and the KKK.
What has legality have to
May 22, 2008 - 00:42 ET by contraryWhat has legality have to do with a desire for kids to find common ground?
"Republicans always get a huge pass on the racist issue. Huck is just another example. Provided they don't start up with the N word, they seem able to pander directly to the racist vote."
-- Chuck Davis, intellectual heavyweight, bigot
contrary
May 22, 2008 - 01:03 ET by shawn228We are not talking about common ground. We are talking about what kind of club should be allowed at school.
So of course a club that promotes drinking, drugs, or pornography should not be allowed because it is agains the law for kids that are under age.
Also any clubs that promote violence toward others should not be allowed, because it would make certain races scared for their physical being.
Are you insinuating the
May 22, 2008 - 01:09 ET by contraryAre you insinuating the club would be used as an excuse to coordinate underage drinking? That’s ridiculous! The whole point of this club would be to promote abstinence from drinking. Certainly any school wouldn’t want to discriminate against people who might have problems in that area. You don’t hate “drinkers” do you? Obviously, the club founders have articulated their intentions to the principal and taken responsibility in what the club does.
Why do you keep bringing up violence, drug use and pornography? Did you have a bad experience as a kid? If only you had a club to talk about these things.
"Republicans always get a huge pass on the racist issue. Huck is just another example. Provided they don't start up with the N word, they seem able to pander directly to the racist vote."
-- Chuck Davis, intellectual heavyweight, bigot
but isn't gay sex under the
May 22, 2008 - 16:48 ET by TruthMongerbut isn't gay sex under the age of 18 illegal too...?
more damn discrimination:(
I disagree Warner
May 21, 2008 - 22:51 ET by shawn228I do not see how setting up a Homosexual club in anyway promotes having sex. It just shows you prefer to be with someone of your own gender.
Your right pornography is legal, but last time I checked, viewing pornography and dancing strippers and beastiality when you are under 18 is illegal.
As far as KKK, Farakhahn and Nazi gangs. I can't believe that you could even compare the two. Gays just want to be together, they do not want to do harm to others and promote hate like your other examples.
BS
May 21, 2008 - 22:58 ET by Warner Todd HustonDo you pay attention to the news at all?
Warner
May 21, 2008 - 23:02 ET by shawn228There are some hard core liberals that promote hate and are very sensitive and use the term "intolerance" any chance they get.
However, with the exception of your pornography and adult them examples. The KKK promotes killing blacks and Nazis want to kill blacks and jews.
I simply do not see how you can compare the two.
Quite a leap from gays to
May 21, 2008 - 23:06 ET by balboaQuite a leap from gays to KKK and Nazis, huh.
Radical Gays
May 21, 2008 - 23:06 ET by Warner Todd HustonRadical gays want to "kill" quite a few things
Religion
Marriage
Children's innocence and freedom from sexual exploitation
Seems pretty evil to me.
And how many of these
May 21, 2008 - 23:16 ET by balboaAnd how many of these "radical gays" are in a typical high school? What's the comparison of radical gays to radicals of other stripes in high school like those nutjobs in the AV Club?
Warner
May 21, 2008 - 23:17 ET by shawn228Your talking about radical gays. The majority of them just want to be left alone, so they can be free to express themselves in public.
Radical Christians bomb abortion clinics. They certainly do not repressent the majority of God fearing Church goers.
Since you choose to state
May 22, 2008 - 05:01 ET by mister josephSince you choose to state "Radical Christians bomb abortion clinics," would you mind backing up your statements? I'd like to know about this common practice that seems to be dragged out as an attack on Christians.
<I>The majority of them just want to be left alone, so they can be free to express themselves in public. </i>
They are left alone, if they don't express themselves in public! You can't demand visibility and then turn around and expect privacy.
Would radical gays start
May 22, 2008 - 09:05 ET by general companyWould radical gays start clubs in High Schools to promote their life style?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
M. Joseph, I think his
May 22, 2008 - 09:06 ET by JasonCM. Joseph, I think his precise point was that it's NOT common.
Who can revolt if man has become a simple conglomerate of organs, a person barely free enough to use a remote control to choose his channel? -J. Kristeva
thx Jason
May 22, 2008 - 09:14 ET by shawn228That was precisely my point. There are radicals from any group.
Gays want to harm people and
May 21, 2008 - 23:04 ET by balboaGays want to harm people and promote hate?
I can see what you're saying that this is a club built around a sexual preference. I think that the guidelines of the club are what need to be addressed, what is the club's goal, what will its meetings consist of?
If the sole theme of the
May 21, 2008 - 23:14 ET by NL207If the sole theme of the club and common ground of its members is homosexuality, then what exactly do YOU think they will be doinig at their meetings?
If I opened a club whose sole stated purpose was for heterosexuals to come together and share something, what would you suppose was going on at that club?
You couldn't be that dense could you?
Yes I'm dense. How very
May 21, 2008 - 23:17 ET by balboaYes I'm dense. How very observant of you. Thanks for adding so much. You're a real contributor of value on this board.
Their goals?
May 21, 2008 - 23:17 ET by jefflebowskiMaybe they can plan a trip to the local church and make out in front of the parishoners. They're so peaceful and respectful.
that would be very disrespectul jeff
May 21, 2008 - 23:31 ET by shawn228The church does not agree with homosexuality, so it would be very disrespectul for a gay person to do that.
The school is not a church and there is separation of church and state.
Curiously
May 21, 2008 - 23:33 ET by Warner Todd HustonCuriously enough, those religious folks you talk about would NOT BE ALLOWED to have a club in that same school. Yet, these NAMBLA types apparently ARE allowed to! Seems a bit askew to me.
"NAMBLA types." Well, that
May 21, 2008 - 23:36 ET by balboa"NAMBLA types." Well, that answers a lot for me.
Can you doubt it...
May 22, 2008 - 00:49 ET by Warner Todd HustonCan you DOUBT that this is a NAMBLA styled exercise in co-opting schools for homosexual trolling grounds?
Why else would this radical group try to get teenagers into their gay sex club??
That is just stupid. Do
May 22, 2008 - 02:10 ET by cleverpigThat is just stupid.
Do you ever consider that people on the opposite side of a debate from you might not be insidious evil monsters bent on destroying your religion and seducing children?
I'm sorry NAMBLA hides under your bed and scares you at night, but the fact is that the boogeyman is not actually hiding behind every door or in every shadow.
You are like the personification of the strawman! Every gay person turns into NAMBLA, every liberal club becomes the KKK, every liberal becomes a socialist, every socialist becomes a communist, every communist becomes a Stalinist. Every anti-discrimination student club becomes a beat poet sex farm!
No wonder you think you are always right! Come back to the real world-- it's a much less menacing place where most people, even you, are honestly trying to do the right thing. :)
Boy I wish they'd have had a nymphomania club for me in HS
May 22, 2008 - 10:13 ET by Dee BunkThen maybe people could have understood that I wasn't just a slut who slept with everyone for no good reason. Then older perverted men and football players could have sought me out and everyone would have been satisfied. I'm sure there were some teachers who could have used a quickie during their free period. We'd all be just getting what we wanted not harming anyone else.
You do know that nymphomania is an actual problem don't you cleverpig? Sex clubs are not appropriate in High School. College is fine.
It's nice that you like to discount everything WTH says with the idiotic theory that because not everyone has nefarious intent means that no one can. That is naive and ridiculous and stupid (to use your exact word).
Just look at abortion, even most who agreed with it being legalized never dreamed (and many still don't know) that abortion would become common place and acceptable under any circumstances. They never dreamed that loving parents would not be able to council their children or that babies could be born alive and then murdered.
There is a NAMBALA like comparison to abortion zealots. Abortion zealots who like abortion as population control and Eugenics are the one's who have brought abortion to the state it is in. They do it on the backs of ignorant people who hold on to their political ideology and refuse to see valid arguments for anything their party doesn't support.
It is NOT a sex club! You
May 22, 2008 - 10:59 ET by cleverpigIt is NOT a sex club!
You are right, there are bad people out there. So let's all suffer to make sure we've created a world in which no one can ever hurt anyone else. Outlaw forks, first of all, because some mean person could use one to stab me in the eye. Information is right out, we can't have any of that. It can all be used to hurt someone. Lock your kids in the closet right now, and I'm not speaking metaphorically. We'll let them out when they're too old to interest NAMBLA. Since they're not going to school, we won't have to worry about outlawing the drama club, where flamboyant kids gather to share in a common interest and potentially attract predatory adults.
So you are ok with the Nympho Club too Clever pig?
May 22, 2008 - 11:04 ET by Dee BunkAll you liberals are. Not one has spoke out against it. It's clear where you come from on this. Sex Clubs are okay as long as actual sex doesn't take place in the club. At least we know where you stand. It's pointless to argue with you.
I don't want a Nympho club or a Gay club. The only type of sex-related club I want is an abstinence club. It's the only sex related club that should be supported by the school.
Why abstinence only? Isn't
May 22, 2008 - 11:08 ET by balboaWhy abstinence only? Isn't that opening the door to all kinds of makeout sessions? How can you be for a Heavy-Petting Club?
No one is for a nympho club. We simply don't believe that a Gay Club= Gay Sex Club.
Do you even know what
May 22, 2008 - 11:11 ET by taterDo you even know what abstinence means? That wouldn't open doors to those other clubs...because abstinence (or better a Chastity Club) teaches you that making out and heavy petting are a slippery slope to sex.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
Oh, so they're completely
May 22, 2008 - 11:58 ET by balboaOh, so they're completely unrealistic.
Why not balboa? Don't you know that nymphomania is a phisical
May 22, 2008 - 11:21 ET by Dee Bunkproblem? It's not something someone chooses to be. They just are. Again - you guys just talk about what you "believe" rather than any rational logical arguments.
Abstinence and heavy petting have no relationship to each other. As already stated you have no clue about what an abstinence club is.
What we "believe" is based
May 22, 2008 - 12:01 ET by balboaWhat we "believe" is based on rational arguments.
Nymphomania and being gay are not the same thing. At all.
These are not...sex clubs. Not.
Yes they ARE the same
May 22, 2008 - 12:05 ET by mofosesameIt's all about SEX and how it makes you feel.
»→ right bal
May 22, 2008 - 12:08 ET by Cool ArrowSo tell us what is so rational about rectal sex?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
COOL
May 22, 2008 - 12:11 ET by mofosesameGreat question!!!
Rectal sex is not part of
May 22, 2008 - 12:20 ET by balboaRectal sex is not part of my argument.
*turns pallid and scoots away*
May 22, 2008 - 12:22 ET by candanceThis is the part where I let ya'll carry on with the discussion. I don't have the stomach to debate such things.
»→ It's not?
May 22, 2008 - 12:27 ET by Cool ArrowSo you you don't think it's "rational"?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Why can't you explain how nymphomania is different?
May 22, 2008 - 12:29 ET by Dee BunkIf it weren't a valid comparison to the topic you should be able to tell me why without just saying the "are not the same thing". You can't and that proves my point. Of course they are not exactly the same thing, but how are they different when it comes to forming a club and whether the club should be allowed or not?
I expect to hear crickets and nothing from any of the resident libs.
Nymphomania is a
May 22, 2008 - 12:38 ET by balboaNymphomania is a psychological disorder. Homosexuality is not. Nymphomania is all about sex. Homosexuality is about sex, but not exclusively. It's about relationships, dating, etc.
»→ say what bal?
May 22, 2008 - 12:44 ET by Cool ArrowIt's about relationships, dating, etc.
What kind of relationships?
Dating that leads to what kind of sexual attraction and action? Platonic?
Yeah, right.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Wrong balboa you Nymphophobe. Nymphomania
May 22, 2008 - 12:52 ET by Dee Bunkis not just psychological. People joke about Nymphomania because it hasn't become politically incorrect yet, but it's a physical problem. You saying that it can be controlled by a psychologist is the same as saying that gay or heterosexual impulses can be controlled by a psychologist. Whether or not the person actually has sex everytime they have the impulse may be somewhat controlled by psychologists, but it's the same for gay sex and non nymphomaniac sex.
Many people are called nymphomaniacs just because they like to have a lot of sex, the same way people are called gay whether they have gay sex or not. Nymphomaniacs want to date and have relationships too.
Do you want to try some more?
»→ Exactly Dee
May 22, 2008 - 12:57 ET by Cool ArrowWhen I was younger, there was no such thing as a nymphomaniac simply because I based my opinion strictly on my own appetite.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Nymphomania is an
May 22, 2008 - 13:42 ET by balboaNymphomania is an insatiable, irrational desire to constantly have sex that impedes on normal everyday life. Neither homo- nor heterosexuality are on that level.
"Do you want to try some more?"
Bal, you're maintaining
May 22, 2008 - 14:11 ET by tracheostomyBal, you're maintaining that all nymphos are "irrational" when Dee clearly isn't. Go back to her previous post.
Try something else.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Wow...
May 22, 2008 - 14:21 ET by sarcasmoFor some reason, now I really want to meet Dee in person! ;)
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Then she isn't a true
May 22, 2008 - 14:21 ET by balboaThen she isn't a true nymphomaniac.
Wrong again balboa - here are the causes from the Mayo Clinic
May 22, 2008 - 14:38 ET by Dee Bunkcompulsive sexual disorder
Sounds a lot like what they said about homosexuals not to long ago and what some are still saying. The only difference is that one is deemed socially acceptable by liberals and the other isn't. Actually they do accept that too as long as it's not their own girlfriend or wife that they are in love with.
People with compulsive sexual disorder experiment with all different kinds of sex including homosexual sex. People have all kinds of problems when it comes to sex and sexual identity and they don't need adult sanctioned experimentation just because they are confused. A gay person has plenty of time to be gay if that is what they really are, as an adult, and shouldn't be labeled by themselves or anyone else at such a young age. I know people who were Gay in high school and in their early 20's who "went straight" so to speak when they grew up. Teenagers gravitate towards what ever group will be most excepting of them. It's not right for adults to sanction sexual preferences and practices in High school.
Try again.
Homosexuality is not
May 22, 2008 - 14:55 ET by balboaHomosexuality is not irrational behavior that intrudes on your everyday life. It is not compulsive or obsessive.
It's in the eye of the beholder balboa
May 22, 2008 - 15:26 ET by Dee BunkMany people who just like sex are labeled nymphomanias, just as many nymphos are labeled bi-sexual or Gay because they experiment more. As I said before, the only difference between a Homosexual and a Heterosexual is who they want to have sex with. If it's not about sex then there is no need for a Homosexual club because there are no differences then. They are the same as everyone else in every other regard. The people in the Gay club, are more likely to be experimenting with sex, if not, they could fit right in very well in the "abstinence club".
Look, I'm not saying that
May 22, 2008 - 15:42 ET by balboaLook, I'm not saying that such a club is a GREAT IDEA or isn't without problems. I think that it's something that would require a good deal of monitoring and guidance from teachers / advisors as there are a number of pitfalls for something like this.
A lot depends on the goals of such a club, which obviously would have to be spelled out in some kind of charter.
»→ Dee, I confess
May 22, 2008 - 12:39 ET by Cool ArrowI confess to being a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
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CP: It is NOT a sex
May 22, 2008 - 11:13 ET by tracheostomyCP: It is NOT a sex club!
Well then, you got issues to hash out with Jason here, because he's arguing your side as if the entire public HS system were one giant sex club.
CP: Since they're not going to school, we won't have to worry about
outlawing the drama club, where flamboyant kids gather to share in a
common interest and potentially attract predatory adults.
Wasn't that the truth. . .I'm convinced half the ticket sales were from family members, friends, faculty, etc. and the other half was from ephebophiles.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Can you DOUBT that this is
May 22, 2008 - 09:43 ET by JasonCCan you DOUBT that this is a NAMBLA styled exercise in co-opting schools for homosexual trolling grounds?
WTH, you have really gone off the deep end with this one. How are you and the posters on this board finding a correlation between pedophiles and a club for kids to discuss their sexual identity without being judged and ridiculed. Calling it a "Sex club" might be the most disingenuous and lazy attempt at smearing something you don't like that I've seen on any of your stories. Tell me you actually think that gay/straight alliances are fronts for gay orgies. If I can get this in writing, it will be the source of so many laughs...
Who can revolt if man has become a simple conglomerate of organs, a person barely free enough to use a remote control to choose his channel? -J. Kristeva
You are the lazy one Jason
May 22, 2008 - 10:19 ET by Dee BunkYou refuse to look at any negative consequences just because your party supports this type of thing and some ignoramus may call you a homophobe if you do. You are the weak and lazy one. Not WTH.
Sex clubs are not appropriate in high schools. WTH isn't saying that they are fronts for gay orgies, he's saying that they can be infiltrated and exploited by NAMBALA types. If you can't see that then you are extremely naive.
Yet, these NAMBLA types
May 22, 2008 - 10:34 ET by balboaYet, these NAMBLA types apparently ARE allowed to!
What do you think that sentence means?
balboa - it means NAMBLA types can't be distinguished
May 22, 2008 - 10:42 ET by Dee Bunkfrom non NAMBLA types. They can easily infiltrate or even start the clubs at different schools if they want to and no one would know.
Sex clubs are not appropriate in high school
I don't think it does. Read
May 22, 2008 - 10:44 ET by balboaI don't think it does. Read WTH's post.
And these aren't sex clubs.
I did read his post balboa - So my nympho club would be fine
May 22, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Dee Bunkwith you? How can you say they are not sex clubs? Technically my nympho club wouldn't be a sex club either.
In my highschool imagination
May 22, 2008 - 10:56 ET by sarcasmoEven "study hall" was a nympho club. Sadly, it was only in my imagination, but I'd have welcomed the real thing...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
me too sarc
May 22, 2008 - 11:01 ET by shawn228I was not a nympo in high school, but I would have loved to have done some undercover work if there was club with female members :-)
Sarcasmo and Shawn prove my point.
May 22, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Dee BunkI know lots of people who would have liked that club. What guy who wants to have sex wouldn't?
That's one aspect of it...
May 22, 2008 - 12:08 ET by sarcasm