To the New York Times there is only one issue in America: the war.
To show how pathetic The New York Times and John Broder are at analyzing the current political climate, all one has to do is read "Gore-Lieberman: A Hyphen Apart? Try Poles." Here the Times clearly reveals that they see but two types of American politician: the good guys against the war, and the evil ones for it. That's it. To the Times there is no other issue, no other divide, no other substantive thought, no other thing that separates our leaders one from the other. There is only the war and nothing else.
In this empty piece, the Times posits that should Al Gore had won in 2000 instead of George W. Bush, the second Gore administration would have seen a dump Lieberman movement that would have resulted in a different Gore vice-president in 2006.
Imagine for a moment the Supreme Court had gone the other way in Bush v. Gore in 2000. We would now be in year eight of the Gore-Lieberman administration. Well, maybe not the Lieberman part.
The reason the Times posits for this is because Gore and Lieberman have "staked out diametrically opposite positions on the Iraq war."
Not only have Mr. Gore and Mr. Lieberman staked out diametrically opposite positions on the Iraq war, Mr. Gore went so far as to endorse one of Mr. Lieberman’s presidential rivals in 2004, Howard Dean, largely because of his opposition to the invasion. Mr. Lieberman is campaigning for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona.
As Mr. Gore steadily migrated leftward from his roots as a hawkish, centrist New Democrat, Mr. Lieberman lurched to the right, so much so that he now makes common cause with Republicans, at least on the war.
Not only is this analysis about an inch deep, it doesn't even rise to the rest of the old saying of being a mile wide for it's an inch deep AND an inch wide.
First of all, we can't miss the obvious and glaring error in the Times "logic." The war in Iraq was started by George W. Bush after the election in 2000. Few people on either side of the aisle imagine that a president Al Gore would have had the stones to have started the war in Iraq. Once the Twin Towers fell, everyone expects that Al Gore would have wasted his precious time trying to find people to bring to criminal court over the act of terror instead of doing the right thing militarily. In fact, his dilly-dallying with that terror attack might have made his a one-term presidency -- but that is just my own “might have been” analysis.
But, to claim that Lieberman would have found himself so opposed to Al Gore's policies that the administration would have dumped him for a second run, and it all being based on Lieberman's stance on the war now, is just plain ignorant of reality. It also shows that the Times is so obsessed by the war in Iraq that they cannot see the world clearly.
To make a supposition of what Lieberman might have done as Gore’s VP one only has to see the flip-flopping in positions he made when running with Gore in 2000. Lieberman flipped on many of his positions to fit in with Gore’s presidency. There is absolutely no indication that Lieberman would have drifted back to his own principles, enough so that Gore would have dumped him for a second run at the White House. All indications are that Lieberman would have stayed loyal to Gore and the party that was supporting them both.
The main reason Lieberman was freed to stick to his own principles at last now is because the party abandoned him and he had no reason for that loyalty.
But, the problem with the Times’ “analysis” is that ALL of this stuff happened after 2000 and none of it can be logically used to determine what he would have done as Gore’s VP. The war would not have happened, the party would not have abandoned Lieberman and no spilt would likely have occurred between them all.
The Times is right in only one of its contentions. That Lieberman is currently alienated from his far leftist party is not in dispute. It is also true that this alienation is all over the war in Iraq, a war that Lieberman heartily supports.
But there happens to be just a few other issues that face modern America besides the war and on every one of those issues Joe Lieberman stands on the liberal side of the aisle. So, there is but one issue that Lieberman differs with his colleagues on. That would be the war.
That's it.
Just one issue.
One issue does not make a stance “poles apart” from 99 percent of what both Lieberman and the Democrat Party agree on.
But, according to the extremists at the NYT that one, lone issue is quite enough to paint Lieberman as being "poles apart" from the rest of the party. It just shows how the Times has let this one issue blind them to all else.
Now, the Times does acknowledge that Lieberman is on the same side with the extreme left on every issue but the war. In the fourth to last paragraph, the Times quotes an unidentified member of the Senate Democratic leadership to that effect. But this one sentence buried at the tale of the piece does not outweigh the fact that the rest of the story ridiculously paints Lieberman as "poles apart" from the rest of his party.
With this failed attempt at political analysis, no one can resist the conclusion that the reputation of The New York Times for deep analysis and trenchant reporting is wildly undeserved.















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I am convinced the MSM and
April 20, 2008 - 16:02 ET by BlazerI am convinced the MSM and the far left have hi-jacked the heartbeat of liberal sentiment in America. No true American, liberal or conservative want's to see America lose. Which is exactly why most democrat's in Connecticut crossed over and voted for Lieberman as an independant. It's possible to be pro-America and vote your liberal values at the same time. My 2 cent's anyway.
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Poll Question
April 20, 2008 - 16:41 ET by WolfmanHas anyone else noticed that the MSM only quotes what the polls said about "are you tired of the war"? Duh, everyone is tired of the war, especially the soldiers, but they never go on to ask "do you want to win the war"? A true American is not a quitter. A true American doesn't like losing. It's not in the mind set of a true American to feel fine with finishing second. Oops there I go again, assuming real Americans don't like to lose. I forgot we stopped keeping score in soccer and thought it led to someone feeling bad if they lost. So if we pull out now there will be no winner, hense no loser. How humane! Now see how simple that was?
NYT - No Yearning for Truth
April 20, 2008 - 16:24 ET by ThisnThatThe NYT is simply stuck on stupid. Their leftist tilt is becoming very tiring, and very obvious. "As Mr. Gore steadily migrated leftward from his roots as a hawkish, centrist New Democrat, Mr. Lieberman lurched to the right, so much so that he now makes common cause with Republicans".
Note the use of the terms "migrate" and "lurch"? Notice how easily the NYT equates bad things associated with Republicans? This is rabid journalism at its worse. There is no valid reason why any NYT writer should push Republicans as bad. NO REASON at all -- except to continue an agenda, and to brand the NYT as nothing but a leftist, yellow rag.
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Insight into leftist cult
April 20, 2008 - 17:18 ET by bulbasaurWhen a Republican commits what is considered a grave offense, you tend to see his colleagues quietly recommend a dignified resignation from office. Basic, minimal respect for the humanity of the offender is usually upheld. We are civilized.
The democrat party, in contrast, behaves like a savage, quasi-religious cult. Democrats are vicious against their apostates. When a democrat deviates from core dogma, be it Global Warming hoax or the Iraq war, that democrat is pilloried & beat down, spat on and body slammed.
Afterwards, what remains of the poor offender's good name is dragged through the slime of the hard left blogosphere for weeks, as a warning to other democrats: this is what happens when you cross them.
Just ask George Stephanopoulis (D) how his week was.
The democrat party has taken a very dark turn in the last 10 years, hasn't it? Who in the world would ever want to be a democrat? It seems to me you have to surrender your principles at the door to join that cult.
Not for me, thank you.
10 years? Try 30.
April 20, 2008 - 22:10 ET by Iowa BoyThe party that gave us FDR, Harry Truman, JKF, or even LBJ is starkly different that the one that exists today. Old Democrats loved Armerica and would defend it. Today's Democrats try to assist in it's defeat and call it patriotic.
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Bloody Weekend: 32 Shot, 2 Stabbed, 6 Dead
April 20, 2008 - 17:27 ET by Parker1227Rev. Wright style leftist hate mongering and post-modern fatalism continue to feed the urban chaos in the once great city of Chicago.
How the NYTimes might cover it:
Well done, Parker. I had
April 20, 2008 - 17:43 ET by QueenMumWell done, Parker. I had similar thoughts when I read the article this morning. Imagine. Obama spent all those years as a community activist in order to improve the conditions on the South Side of Chicago. Well, since it seems his approach wasn't very successful, are we to believe that his "policies" for the country as a whole will be any more effective? Do you think anyone will bother to ask Obama for his comments? Or should I say excuses.
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April 20, 2008 - 18:26 ET by Cool ArrowBefore very long he'll be spreading his gospel of "poor me" across America.
By the way, how were these people killed? Were kids in the inner city "clinging to their guns"?
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Clinging to their guns ...
April 20, 2008 - 18:29 ET by QueenMumClinging to their guns ... and the Bibles they pass out at the TUCC.
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Monday Morning QB?
April 20, 2008 - 18:20 ET by Del DolemonteWonder if this guy is David Broder's son?
Broder should ask his readers what would have happened if Clinton had resigned in 1998 and Gore had become President? Or what would have happened if 9/11 had happened before 2000?
Speaking of retch alerts, be sure to read today's NYT "editorial" about how the evil Bush approved torture. Sad...
DAVID BARSTOW - Another NYT conspiracist
April 20, 2008 - 19:38 ET by Bacchus"Monday Morning QB?" - My thoughts exactly.
NYT: Behind Analysts, the Pentagon’s Hidden Hand
This time it's set back in 2005. Sheesh.
It's clearly a guagmire over at NYTimes. Ad revenues have plunged. Readership has plunged. Newsroom staff are being let go. What happened? It was another precipitous plunge, in their collective Intelligence Quotient. Stay the course.
It's no wonder to me why
April 20, 2008 - 18:24 ET by Free StinkerIt's no wonder to me why this paper is losing money.
Who wants to support those traitors?
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April 20, 2008 - 18:32 ET by Cool ArrowObviously nobody. Checked their stock lately?
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Actualy, ha ha, yes I have!
April 20, 2008 - 18:36 ET by Free StinkerActualy, ha ha, yes I have! ;-)
Market justice can be the harshest kind.
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April 20, 2008 - 18:40 ET by Cool ArrowGordon Gecko (Wallstreet) could make a bundle buying it up and liquidating the fixed assets.
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News Corp takeover
April 20, 2008 - 18:45 ET by Free StinkerI would love to see News Corp buy the NYT just to see the circus that would erupt at *that* announcement.
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Yea - What if?
April 20, 2008 - 19:19 ET by BacchusThis kind of what-if game is double-edged, it goes both ways. As VP, wouldn't Lieberman have had a major influence on President Gore's foriegn policy decisions? I think so. How could he not have? So where would they have sent the troops and what would have been their mission?
Anyway, it didn't go that way so Broder's article is moot, and in this case, it reads like the rant of a sore loser.
Gore, Gore, Gore....!
April 20, 2008 - 20:42 ET by tomchrisEnough already! I've had with the left's demented obsession with the resutls of the 2000 Election and their teary-eyed vision of Al Gore as the "Man Who Would Be King." If Al Gore truely had the pulse of the people and gravitas to win the Presidency he would have the guts to run in '04 and '08. I believe that even a self-reflective Gore knew he would have had his clocked cleaned with no apparent drive to fight Islamic fascist or face the "Clinton War Machine, Part 2."
As far as the Fantasy Baseball-like predictions that Joe Lieberman would have been thrown under the bus by the democrats-again, it looks as if the Times has a short memory in spite of the apparent wishful thinking. By trying to force Lieberman out in favor of an anti-war candidate, the Democrats now have an ax-grinding independant party member who by rights can jump ship and turn the balance of a Senate democratic majority. Way to go!