Warner...Who are these "extreme leftist visitors" and how have they "excuse(d) away all the hateful comments made daily on Kos..."?

Jer

Newsbusterbrown...Let me add a little to the perspective on Kim Peterson.  True, he was a highly partisan conservative who engaged in a good deal of--what I believe must be construed as--"hateful" banter targeting liberals and Democrats with his callers.  The JFK, Jr. incident is just one example.

On the other hand, Peterson--an ex-Marine--was very supportive of our military and donated much of his time hosting many benefits and charitable events aiding members of our armed forces.  He deserves a great deal of credit for those efforts. 

Jer

Del...This may come as a shock, but I really don't come here to impress you.  Based on past history, I think I could make an assertion as simple and self-evident as "the sky is blue", and you would suddenly pop up demanding "objective, multi-sourced links" in support of my "claim".  And after I complied, you would then fade away without comment.

Kim Peterson, the "guy with a show on one radio station in one metro area", hosted a three--sometimes four--hour show in prime "drive" time in a metro area market of well over a million potential listeners.  Furthermore, the JFK, Jr. incident to which I referred involved numerous callers making tasteless comments over the course of several hours.  Your "one radio station" observation would be analogous to my contending that Daily Kos is just one web site. 

Peterson's show became available on the web, and was streamed to military facilities around the world.  However, my guess is that Kennedy's death preceded internet accessibility.  It probably predated most of the political web sites which now exist.  Otherwise, I strongly suspect Peterson's callers would have been posting their crude jokes on one or more of those sites.

A couple of points...

--Please note my above response to Newsbusterbrown regarding recognition of Peterson's pro-military efforts.

--Additionally, I must make a positive statement about FreeRepublic.  Somebody mentioned on Daily Kos that there were many critical remarks from Freepers about Ann Richardson at the time of her death.  I checked it out and discovered just the opposite--at least with respect to the first humdred or so comments.  Maybe there had been redactions--I really don't know--but there was not a single negative word among all the ones I viewed.  They were unanimously thoughtful and sympathetic.  [I did run across a replication of a FreeRepublic thread which contained some rather tasteless comments about John and Elizabeth Edwards right after the disclosure of her cancer.  However, I have not seen the original thread.  There are also--reportedly--some pretty nasty things that were said about Paul Wellstone at the time of his death.  I haven't had the opportunity yet to verify or debunk that claim.]  I have been gone most of the afternoon and evening.

Jer 

Do you really think that I believe if the left had guns they'd be more polite? Jeez.... Get a grip.

The point about not requiring permits to carry concealed is that I, unlike you, trust the vast majority of my fellow citizens to use their right to defend themselves in a judicious manner. (As is being done here in Alaska today.) The fact that bloodbaths did not follow is proof that I am right.

During the time that I was carrying early in my life, permits were nearly impossible to get. I tried. It was during that time that I first had to draw my weapon in defense of my life. As I said, if you had your way, because I was denied that right by the powers that be, I would have lost my life. I chose to carry anyway.

Maturity and patience, as you say, get one nowhere when someone wants to kill you right NOW. By the time you go through the red tape to carry, ya might well be dead. Hence my comment, "judged by 12 rather than carried by 6."

And uh... chalking it up to a 2nd Ammendment conspiracy? What the hell are you talking about? And just so you know...Glocks aren't shiny... (Your ignorance of firearms is showing.)

"What am I going to use it for here, shooting at a paper target indoors? Sounds boring."

Well, since it, "sounds boring", I'll assume you haven't done so. It isn't. It hones ones skills and is quite entertaining. We used to shoot in the basement when I was a kid, with all the great Alaskan outdoors to shoot in. A commercially available bulletstop was used and we had great fun. It made me a better shot and hence a better hunter. I also attende classes at a local High School that had an excellent indoor shooting range and outstanding firearms instructors. They even supplied us with superior target rifles to learn with.

"That is an arguable and statistically mangled "factoid." "

I guess if you call FBI stats factoids...you're correct.

"Why is it so unreasonable to have to submit to a basic background
check, and prove the same credentials of responsibility as one must in
order to get a driver's license?"

Yeah...and we all know what a great effect that proof of credentials and responsibility has on making drivers obey the law. Drunk drivers, road rage, speeding, hit and run...I could go on forever. Feh.....

Firstly, when purchasing a firearm, that "basic background check" you refer to, is already done.

The Constitution makes no such provisions when addressing a citizens right to bear arms. Again...I clearly trust my fellow citizens a great deal more than you do. Do you seriously think that a criminal will leave his guns at home because he doesn't hava permit to carry? Given that...why should law abiding citizens?

If there had been an increase in shootings or some like consequence to the passage of Alaskas present carry laws, I would say you're right, that the right to carry should be restricted. There was no increase, and you're wrong. The "mangled factoids" of the FBI bear me out.

Again, you're acting like I'm saying "ban all guns."

Nope...I just don't want the government to tell me if it's OK for me to carry or not. I said nothing about banning all guns.

"My concealed weapon has saved me from certain death on 2 occasions in the 33 years I've been carrying. Nothing else would have filled the bill, and I'd not be here. If you had your way in the matter...I'd be
dead.

Once more, you construe my take on the matter. But, glad to know you got out of those tight spots."

Wrong. I did not have a permit on the first occasion. If you had your way, and I followed the law at that time...the one that would not let me carry, the one you advocate...I'd be dead. Get it?

I don't believe that the government should be able to restrict a citizens right to defend themselves from harm. Period. Criminals do not need a permit to carry so why the hell should Joe Public?.

Now...as for selling guns to the mentally disabled or plain certified crazy...well...I'm not advocating that, and I can't imagine that anyone is. The background ckecks that are done as a routine in purchasing a firearm prevent them from being sold to felons etc. No problem with that at all. (Although guns can be purchased through the paper and many other sources with no restrictions or checks of any kind, making background checks...less effective.)

." I could go out and purchase a gun today if I wanted to, and I live
in Massachusetts! But oh, woe is me, I'd have to wait two whole weeks
to actually be able to shoot it!

EXACTLY!...woe is you. Criminal A says on Tuesday, "I'm going to kill you in one week." You go pay for your weapon the next day. One week later, before you can get your firearm, you're shot by Criminal A. Great system you have there mate! Your waiting period just got you killed. And you probably wouldn't be able to get a permint to carry in time either, if at all. Particularly in a state where you have to wait a ridiculous 2 WEEKS to get your gun! (I've heard of a "5 day cooling off period"...but 2 weeks would leave one absolutely frigid! Pathetic.)

If someone invited you to a hunt in one week, and you didn't have the right firearm, you'd have to stay in the camp or home. And if it takes two weeks just to get a gun...how long to get a permit to carry? Or do you even have that right there? If your opinions on this subject reflect the laws of Mass....I sincerely doubt that your "masters", (heh heh) would allow you that "privelege" at all.

Happy Trails...

LOL...I think quite a few of the leftists are very well aware of  facts regarding all of this...they just choose to ignore the facts....something like they hate to face facts...especially when it hits them in the face....then they attempt to spin even those.

History is to be ignored with these pathetic critters.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Well, I agree that "immense" may have been a bit of an overstatement.

Jer