Sun-Times/Andrew Greeley: Anti-Obama Pundits Have 'Sick Minds'

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By Warner Todd Huston | April 3, 2008 - 14:22 ET

On April 2nd, the Chicago Sun-Times' Andrew Greeley accused anyone who isn't a Barack Obama fan of having a "sick mind." This takes political name calling to its worst level thus far in the campaign. Sadly -- but all too typically -- the sort of uncivil ignorance displayed by Greeley is exactly the kind we always see from liberals who want to shut down debate by an out of hand branding of their political opponents as bad people, not just people who have a difference of opinion. To hatemongers such as Greeley, conservatives aren't just wrong, they are evil and now he's decided that anyone who doubts Obama is mentally ill.

Greeley attacked conservative columnist Thomas Sowell, who Greeley claims has a "very clever" sick mind, as well as several others, some by name and others by inference. Greeley claimed that Sowell indulged in "hate" for Senator Obama in his columns. Naturally, Greeley doesn't give us any examples of "hate" for Obama, he merely states it outright as if it were axiomatic. In fact, he ascribes the emotion of "hate" as a result of a "sick mind" to several columns he alludes to but his only examples discuss interpretations of Obama's motivations and actions described by conservatives without any hateful rhetoric involved.

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Of course, if you take Greeley's word for it, everyone in Illinois simply loves Obama so that should be enough to make him president, apparently. But, no one has ever said that Obama is a jerk or a dirty player in politics. What conservative commentators ARE saying, however, is that the claim that Obama is somehow a "uniter" and that he is interested in "change" is not reflected in anything he's ever done. Of course, Greeley reiterates the claim as if it is fact without giving us a single shred of proof to show that it is true.

Of Obama's work in Chicago, Greeley says:

Anyone who knows anything about Obama's activity as a community organizer in Chicago, even before he joined Trinity knows his style was always one of bringing people together in consensus. For someone with legitimate claims to scholarship, Sowell is curiously innocent of regard for facts.

Like I said, there is no proof presented to prove that Obama built any sort of "consensus" in anything he's ever done. It is just stated as fact. But the reason there is no evidence of Obama's consensus building stated by those such as Greeley is because there isn't any to be found.

The truth is, Obama never built any coalitions from disparate groups with differing opinions. He worked exclusively with people who agreed with him and with whom he agreed. No "consensus" ever need to be built. Obama has not one instance of "consensus building" in his entire life. After all, what consensus needs to be built among people who all agree already?

But, to those such as Greeley, no objections to an Obama candidacy can be built on facts, Obama's history or the truth. It must be "hatred" born of "sick minds." One wonders what Obama the nice guy would think of sycophants such as Greeley using demonization of opponents as a means to support him?

Greeley also offensively regurgitates the he's-an-articulate-Negro line of reasoning for why people should support Obama.

... their venom indicates that both are offended by this attractive, charismatic and intelligent young man. The last American politician who was the subject of such animus was JFK.

First of all, Obama is NO JKF and second of all, all blacks should be offended that Obama is so constantly being described as "attractive, charismatic and intelligent" as if he is an amazing anomaly among the African American community! Does Greeley imagine that so few black Americans are "attractive and intelligent" that he must single Obama out for such praise?

Of course, the sadest thing is the fact that Andrew Greeley is supposed to be a man of God. That he uses this sort of opprobrium as a political tool to beat down his opponents really doesn't speak well to his vows, wouldn't you think? Greeley's absurd hero worshipping of Obama is not befitting a man of the cloth.

The final word on this column is that it is empty of any serious political discussion. Greeley should be ashamed of his substance free name calling and the Sun-Times should be ashamed he writes for them.

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Obama?

OK with me. The priest has spoken. I now will follow B.H. Obama anywhere. I have turned my mind off and am a robot like the priest.

Look, I dont have a problem with Obama...

But if Rev. Wright is the kinda "people" he likes to hang with then I wont vote for him for POTUS.

I dont hate Obama...I mean, Id go bowling with the guy, but I wont vote for him...not with some of the things he and his associates have said.

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Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!

Don't you just love that

Don't you just love that liberal view of "consensus"?

It is laughable

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

the C word

consensus trumps logic or reason or proof now? Shall we go back to some very notorious "consensus"es  (consensi?)

like women not being capable of voting, burning people of differing faith as "witches", slavery, inquisition, flat earth, submenschen, tribal superiority, weather gods, political genocides, mass starvations, historical dialectics, human sacrifice....

ALL of the abov, at one time or another, were "consensus"-considered *absolute* truths that "everybody" knew/understood/believed in. Everybody that "mattered", anyways.

Did that make any of them right, or good? No. D*ckheaded anti-christian types like to say that "religion" has been the root cause of most of the evils of history. I strongly beg to differ. Consensus was the root cause, because it worked in *all* historical evil, where in the most modern evil ideas are/were completely agnostic or anti-gnostic.

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

Consensus:

That's when R's cross the aisle to agree with D's.

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.

That's when R's cross the aisle to agree with D's.

...perfect.

v

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will

Consensus:

That's when R's cross the aisle to agree with D's.

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.

sort of uncivil ignorance

sort of uncivil ignorance displayed by Greeley is exactly the kind we always see from liberals who want to shut down debate by an out of hand branding of their political opponents as bad people, not just people who have a difference of opinion

Warner, this article is laughable considering that you're more guilty of this than most.

Ha.  That's what you do in almost every article.  Priceless.

Who has Warner referred to

Who has Warner referred to as a bad person here, Leon?

Uh Liberals. Warner

Uh Liberals.

Warner routinely brands them as bad people or nut jobs, and not just people that have a difference of opinion.

In almost every post he writes.

Ok, thats a good one Leon.

Ok, thats a good one Leon. Liberals are not nut jobs, just different...great punch line. Can I use that?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Yeah Bass it looks good...

...thanks Leon!

v

Liberals are not nut jobs, just different... - Leon

Warner routinely brands

Warner routinely brands them as bad people or nut jobs and he speaks truth to the power, right?  I imagine most of them are either nuts or simply brain dead.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Leon's Latest

Man crush is now on Warner, huh?

Poor WTH....do you suppose Leon's leg gets all tingly every time he posts to you? 

Seriously Warner, I had to laugh when I saw your *insert eye-rolling emoticon here*.

Nice posts, today, BTW.  No more Absolute martinis for this blonde. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde, You shouldn't drink

Blonde,

You shouldn't drink Absolut but it has nothing to do with their recent ad that had nothing to do with illegal immigration.

You shouldn't drink Absolut b/c you're an adult and adults shouldn't drink cheap liquor.

 

adults shouldn't drink

adults shouldn't drink cheap liquor.

what then Leon do you save the cheap liquor for children and infants?

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

Absolut is for drinking in

Absolut is for drinking in your parent's basement in highschool, dorm room shenanigans, or frat festivities.

It should never be consumed by people not in high school or college...or homeless, I guess.  Ha.

 

no more absolut-T coolers

mixed with thunderbird???

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

Horrors, B.

Never with thunderbird....well, at least not mine

P.S.....mine has better wheels.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

cute B

 

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

When I want advice from you

Leon, I'll ask.

Don't hold your breath, though. 

You lose again, Buckwheat.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

HAHAHAHAAA!! :p

HAHAHAHAAA!! :p

"A Blonde retort to more Leon nonsense? Priceless. (Always.)

Some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's Master..... no wait.... Mr. Shy."

:)

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

 

Blonde, Everytime you

Blonde,

Everytime you reply to a post and try to be witty, I like to try to guess what decade your cute little saying is from.

This one seems to be a mix of early 70s and early 80s. Always annoying, never creative. I respect your consistency. haha.

Furthermore, whether or not you wanted my advice is irrelevant.  Friends don't let friends drink cheap liquor (as you clearly do). 

But then again, you also live in Florida, so I'm sure cheap vodka goes great with all the fast food you eat.  Is the Olive Garden byo?

wow Leon

your post is the epitome of snooty. 

You think you are:

1)  better than the 70s

2)  better than the 80s

3)  creative?

4)  funny?

5)  better than Absolut?

6)  better than Florida?

7)  better than Olive Garden?

Leon, i know humble people, i work with humble people, i like humble people.  You sir are no humble person.  Rather you are a "I'm a liberal and better and smarter than you" person.

wow, botg

I spent my entire afternoon, here, protesting the idiocy of Leon's obsession...I never saw this one....yowza!

I think it's well past time that Leon goes to the great Time Out in the Sky. 

This stalking is getting totally out of hand. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

botg

Don't you know?

All liberals suffer from God complexes.

That's why they commonly don't believe in God. They ARE God. They are all-knowing. They will cure all of the ills of the poor and downtrodden.

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

 

yes Mr Shy and all the

yes Mr Shy and all the while looking down their noses at the 'poor and downtrodden' as too stupid to take care of themselves (why else do they need a lib to save them?)

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

Howdy Blonde

Man crush is now on Warner, huh?

Or penis envy?

 

Perhaps, ac

Trying to figure out Leon's daily perversity is a bit much. It could be any one of a thousand unpleasant things.

We need a better class of troll, here.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Consensus

He can't even build a consensus among Democrats that he should be their nominee for President and we are to believe he will unite and build consensus among all Americans?

you beat me to the

you beat me to the punch......my thoughts exactly!

kd, Neither has

kd,

Neither has McCain.

You need look no further than Newsbusters to see that. 

So what's your point?

McCain is not being

McCain is not being portrayed as the great "uniter". The point is that if Obama can't unite his own party, how can he unite the country and why does the lib media keep making that bogus claim.

valid point. However, you

valid point.

However, you can't really argue as to his ability to unite his party until he gets the nomination.  If the Dems that supported Hillary then rally around him, he will have united his party. 

Right now it's simply some people want Hillary and some want Obama.  That's how it always works.

 

duh!!!

McCain isn't campaigning as a unifier.

[ Amazing how dopey our trolls are. Can't we get a better class of troll? ]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

I wasn't aware McCain was

I wasn't aware McCain was billing himself as some kind of super consensus builder and uniter of the nation - as Obama has been doing.

big difference

No one has ever gone around, especially Big Media, accusing McCain of being or building consensus. 

But, it's all some sort of 'equivalency' thing with you isn't it? If a leftist socialist candidate does something evil, it's perfectly okay if some conservative dingbat did the same. Wrong is wrong-McCain never got much, if any, love here thanks to his "immigration" policies. He's never been worshipped in a smoke and mirrors campaign like the "ooh, shiny!" that is the *only* thing that Obamanauts can present. 

Picking a president based on charisma, or hair style, is the basest, stupidest, inane-est thing ever. But that's what the Democrats want apparently-a pretty boy is more important that someone with hardened political skills. Say what you want about Edwards, but at least he knew how to convince a group of strangers to support his side, as a seasoned ambulance chaser...err..lawyer. 

But, he wasn't as manipulatively evil as Hillary, nor as pretty and "charismatic" as Obama, so Dem's washed him out.

I still wonder why, if he was considered such a whack-job, why Howard Dean couldn't be trusted to be a presidential candidate but can be trusted running the entire Democratic Party?

Which reminds me, didn't history always refer to a young Hitler as being very "charismatic"? He sure didn't have much else going for him at the beginning, except a "cult of personality" who followed him and trashed anyone who didn't believe...and the ability to give "inspiring" speeches that "opened" the racial dialog right before suggesting a "final solution". One Wright would be proud to support I'm certain.

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

McCain United

McCain has garnered more delegates than the rest of the Republican contenders combined. His is SURE to be nominated at the Republican Convention, and without the threat of a divided party that hangs over the Democrats. For the Republicans, there's no talk of a split, no calls for someone to step down and help reunite the party. I'd say that McCain done a GREAT job at building a consensus within the Republican Party, even among the people who don't support him as a presidential candidate. Can Obama (or Hillary, for that matter) say the same? I thought not.

It’s 1968 all over again. The Democratic Party is facing a huge rift within its base, people are divided, and the party is close to implosion. So much for a building a consensus. This only thing Obama has managed to create is a Great Divide.

He sure...

McCain SURE hasn't built any "consensus" with conservatives! Nor the religious. Nor the anti-illegal immigrationists.

Greeley, Gore, Hitler?

Isn't it amazing that liberals like this, who claim to be so enlightened and in favor of free speech, resort to name calling and derision toward anyone who espouses a conservative view-point? This is akin to Algore telling us that we who debate the Global Warming theories are dangerous deniers. In his excellent book, Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg likens American liberalism to the German Nazi party, also a group that liked to slap labels on folks, with extremely dangerous results. Are we headed for re-education camps for those of us who are of the conservative persuasion? Let's ask Greeley.

Speaking of sick minds

Pelosi warns Petraeus on Iraq testimony

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) warned Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Thursday “not to put a shine on recent events” in Iraq when they testify before Congress next week.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9370.html

OK, Queen Bee, just email the General your thoughts on what is going on and he can just repeat them back to you on national TV.  Will that do?


 

 

Uhbama is a nut. Plain and

Uhbama is a nut. Plain and simple. Wolf is sheep's clothing. And has gotten everyone bamboozled, especially the MSM. The dinosaur media is never going to ask him a question that would pin him to anything.

We are in a boatload of trouble. This nutcase is a master manipulator of white liberal guilt, and that is exactly who is going to put this wacko in office.  

I've always said liberal American people would pay for the rope that hangs 'em, and with Uhbama that's exactly what will happen. Keep your powder dry.

Greeley worships at the feet of B. Hussein Obama.

If Obama should win the Whitehouse in November (GOD FORBID!) all will be directed to place a picture of him in their houses and places of business.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Greeley looks evil in that

Greeley looks evil in that picture.

Honesty

Mr. Huston, if you want to be credible in any way then you should stop making the same generalizations, overstatements and lies you claim other people are doing.

again, difference

Mr. Huston isn't being paraded around as the be-all, end-all expert that must be listened to, nor is he considered a mouthpiece for official government policy. Nor, whether or not you agree with his writing style, can you say that what he reports is untrue. If people are going around being nasty MSM manipulators, and if the facts and incidents are independently verifiable, who reports it doesn't change anything.

So even if I go around kicking you in the @ss every time you turn around, and some other guy does the same whenever you confront me, doesn't change the fact if I tell you the other guy's kicking your behind too does it? With your logic, that gives the other guy a free @ss kicking pass sicne I reported it.

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

Who the hell is Andrew Greeley anyway?

Who the hell is Andrew Greeley anyway? Sounds a lot like one of the priests who the Pope relieved of duty in during the 1970s in Nicaragua. What about national sovereignty and socialism? What about personal responsibility?

Irish BS

Greeley is a professional BS artist. He is a leader in the"liberal" wing of the Catholic church. He's had a big hand in "changing" the church. Change for the worse is a way of life for the guy. I'm sure he's had plenty to do with millions of traditionalists abandoning Catholicism. Of course he would endorse Obama. As more lefties like him and Jane Fonda come out for BO, we start to see a pattern. It's no coincidence.

It's also no coincidence that Greeley will brook no dissent from anyone. His attack on Thomas Sewell is typical of this kind of person. He has the passion of a committed ideologue, as do Obama (and Clinton). Because of his committed ideology, Obama will divide the nation, just as Greeley has didvided the Catholic church. These people on the left hate aplenty. And Obama's no different than any other left-wing hater. Listen to Greeley and Wright and hear Obama.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

 

Its fun to watch

Its fun watching liberals make asses of themselves. The meltdown continues and this sort of rhetoric, whether from a sadly misguided priest or the talking heads of the mainstream media, will only get more shrill and intense. Surely the disaster of the democratic primary is opening eyes across America. It would seem the party of tolerance is actually the party of racism and sexism. Pelosi's and Reid's approval ratings hover around 10%. The democrats just don't seem to able to get along with anybody - not even themselves. Its fun to watch. 

Note Greeley's argument

Note Greeley's argument here:

"Neither [Sowell nor Riley] I daresay, ever drove by the church on 95th Street on
Sunday morning. The people, including the young ones, are the best
dressed and best groomed congregants I have ever seen, and they emerge
from the most elegant collection of cars displayed in Sunday morning
Chicago. No Catholic parish in Chicago I know of displays such relaxed
prosperity on a Sunday. This is not Rev. Jess territory nor do the
congregants look like radical white-haters."

This pathetic claim that "they don't look racist" is quite reminiscent of Ted Turner's award-winning quote regarding Kim Jong Il and how he looked completely ordinary. The irony is that this is coming from the minds of "progressives" who always harp about not judging based on appearances and superficiality. Doesn't Greeley know that those "evil" corporate suits dress well and drive nice cars, too? I mean, let me get this straight: I'm not allowed to be wary of a Muslim at an airport who acts in a suspicious manner, but I can go ahead and assume that these churchgoers aren't radical people just because they look and act clean-cut and kind?

Call me crazy (or, sick-minded, as it were), but I'm gonna assume instead that most of the people coming out of Wright's church aren't asleep in the pews.

 

"I think government is a necessary evil, like, say, motion picture agents." -John Wayne

After "Dear Leader" Obama's

After "Dear Leader" Obama's installed, Greeley may suggest that any of us with "sick minds" better be sent to re-education camps or "psychiatric hospitals"...

someone please

Someone needs to show Greely that little part in the Bible that says something about casting the first stone before continues to insult millions of people who won't be voting for Senator Obama. Or perhaps after all the media coverage of Senator Obama Greely does think he is defending the second coming.

Can't stand Greeley

Fr. Greeley is one of those Catholic clergy who really should've been an Episcopalian, because he'd fit right in with the libs in that church.  He needs to go back to writing his smutty paperbacks and leave the real intellectual heavy-lifting to Thomas Sowell.

Give me an honest atheist like Christopher Hitchens any day of the week over somebody spraying the aerosol of Christianity to mask Marxism.  Yo, Benedict, time to clean house in the American Church!

So what if I have a 666 birthmark...

...that doesn't make me a bad person. 

Doesn't someone, somewhere (outside the continental US) need an Exorcist?