Talk about bending over backwards to excuse racist comments! Charles Coulter, Opinion Page Editor of the Kansas City Star (pictured at right via KC Star's Web site) has said that he's had "Enough" and says that these "attacks on Obama and Jeremiah Wright are ludicrous." Coulter is scolding any of us who take offense that Obama's racist Rev. has said things like "God damn America," and is himself outraged over our "ludicrous" anger over Wright's claims that the U.S. invented AIDS solely to kill black people.
Coulter starts off with this dismissive summary:
So the Rev. Jeremiah Wright made comments that some portray as hate-filled and anti-American.
It's hard not to "portray" Wright's comments as "hate-filled and anti-American" when he said that the U.S. basically deserved the murderous attacks on 9/11/01 that killed thousands of innocent Americans!
Coulter then tries to blow off the whole incident as something that should be forgotten because the Rev. Wright's opinion is "covered by something called the First Amendment."
Well, it is certainly true that the racist Rev's right to free speech has been properly exercised. And, I don't know of a single commentator who has said that Wright has no right to say what he said. Coulter certainly set himself up a straw man to knock down, for sure.
But, here is the salient point that Coulter does his level best to ignore. Barack Obama has intimately involved himself and his entire family with a man that despises the very country that Barack wants to become the leader of and this association with such a man as Wright speaks volumes about Barack, himself. Let's face it, human nature dictates that most people associate with people of like mind. And, if Barack found Wright’s obscene rhetoric so distasteful, how is it that he felt so darn comfortable with the man, enough so that he exposed his impressionable children to this ranting lunatic?
But let's try an exercise to illustrate this situation in another way. What if a southern Senator, say a fellow like Trent Lott, was running for president. Let's imagine that Trent Lott had a 20-year-long, intimate relationship with the Grand Wizard of the Mississippi KKK. What would people then be saying of Trent Lott? In fact, we don't have to wonder too much because only a few short years ago Trent Lott was chased from his position of power in the Senate merely for saying a few nice things about a man who had been a segregationist decades ago -- but had not been so outspokenly racist in decades.
And now comes a fellow like Charles Coulter who wants us all to just forget about this whole Obama/Wright deal? We should forget a guy that said "God damn America," not decades ago, but just recently?
Yet, to Coulter this is all a "made-up issue."
If you don't like Obama, fine. If you don't like his policies, fine. But let's not waste any more time over a made-up issue.
And Coulter says it's all just talk, anyway.
Rev. Wright is not leading nor advocating a revolution. He is just venting, and in many ways, preaching to the choir. Shouldn't a man or woman be judged more by his or her actions?
"Just venting" and merely "preaching to the choir" is exactly the problem here. Because if Wright was "just" saying things that everyone in his audience wanted to hear and say everyday themselves, then we don’t have but one fellow with such a hateful opinion, we have an entire congregation of white-hating, anti-American, hate-mongers. And Barack is ONE of them!
If this sort of rhetoric is somehow common in black churches, then this is something to be alarmed at, not something to just blow off as a fake issue.
Coulter is an ignorant apologist for racism, hate, anti-Americanism and, even worse, is an advocate of keeping black Americans in a perpetual state of anger and turmoil that will, in the end, only serve to keep them down and out.
Coulter is one of those responsible for forcing blacks in America, people who have lived in this country since day one, many of whom today have been native-born Americans for many generations, to being passed up by Mexican immigrants who have only really made their mark in the last 30 years in the USA.
If you want to see someone holding blacks down, look at a liberal like Charles Coulter who seems to find no reason to let blacks in America "off the plantation," as the saying goes. Look at a man who excuses the vitriol and turmoil that suppresses the confidence that blacks have to move forward. And then see that reflected in the hate coming from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr., and see that hate accepted by a man who wants to become the president of a country that is filled with the very white people his “spiritual mentor” has damned for 20 years.
Then tell me that Wright’s hatred and racist rhetoric is a “made-up issue.”















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Venting my ass...
March 19, 2008 - 20:54 ET by PopularTechShow anyone this and ask them if they think he was "venting":
Obama's Pastor "Venting" (Video)
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March 19, 2008 - 21:00 ET by Cool ArrowWhen I'm "venting my ass" I call it farting.
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Break like the wind
March 19, 2008 - 21:22 ET by nkviking75Cool Arrow, you've just passed an appropriate metaphor for Wright's hate speech.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Venting. Oh, is that what
March 19, 2008 - 22:47 ET by motherbeltVenting. Oh, is that what that was?
and "some portray it as hate-filled and anti-American."
Hmph. Go figure.
<sarc off>
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March 19, 2008 - 22:51 ET by Cool ArrowI hope this word is in QueenMum's book.
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Coulter v Coulter
March 19, 2008 - 21:02 ET by d1carterAnd some think than Ann is a nut.
I saw this guy interviewed somewhere and when pressed on the contents of his column, he folded. They put this stuff out but when called on it, nothing.
At least the other Coulter stands behind her nuttiness.
Circular logic
March 19, 2008 - 21:05 ET by acumenYou were born with the wrong colored outer garment Warner and that's why you don't get it. That means you are incapable of getting it. Therefore you will never get it. Got it?
Meanwhile, you may still hope for change.
You mean like this
March 19, 2008 - 21:13 ET by Lord ElicaniYou mean like this guy?
Murrow turning over in his grave
Murrow turning over in his grave
Ed Murrow had a child and the damn thing went wild
- Lindsey Buckingham
that really is the core of
March 19, 2008 - 21:21 ET by red_dragon311that really is the core of this issue. You nailed it.
It's a black thing we wouldn't understand
I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first analrapist
"It's a black thing we
March 19, 2008 - 21:24 ET by Warner Todd HustonI sure hope you mean that sarcastically? Because it is patently false.
Totaly did Warner, I
March 19, 2008 - 21:27 ET by red_dragon311Totaly did Warner,
I meant it as an addition to acumen's "not getting it" post
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Parsing nuance
March 19, 2008 - 21:54 ET by acumen"It's a black thing we wouldn't understand"
Other than the obvious overt racist subtext, I see the statement (originated by many in defense of the wrong-rev Wright's comments) more as hypocrisy or irony rather than sarcasm. Although as was I, the commenter was engaging in sarcasm.
Bottom line (even though I'm not supposed to get this) -- So we have been informed, anyone other than blacks don't "get it" (the wrong-rev Wright's...er...sermons) because their skin is a different color than others; However, at the same time we are told people possesing a different skin color can "hope" for "change" by voting for someone (ironically with a skin color) that we are supposedly incapable of getting.
Now I've even confused myself....must embrace the nuance....must embrace the nuance.
BTW - Wasn't Murrow cremated? Sometimes I don't get lyrics by white rockers either....
BTW II - Am I allowed to say "thang." Is that wrong? Seeing how the mis-pronunciation was hijacked from white rednecks maybe I'm safe. Read Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell for any further clarification on that comment.
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March 19, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Cool ArrowThe word is "thang", not "thing".
Now go on with your own bad self and get the lingo.
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Dude I'm too white to have
March 19, 2008 - 21:28 ET by red_dragon311Dude I'm too white to have known that
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March 19, 2008 - 21:36 ET by Cool ArrowIf it's streed cred you're after, the Right Reverand Wright can sell you some at the price of your integrity.
Reverend Bill Lawson just said on H&C: "Many people outside the Black community have no idea what goes on in the Black Church. What is being done at Trinity is Mainstream Black Churches."
Is this a preemptive attempt by Black Church leaders to rein in their flocks?
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Maybe we should have a black President...
March 19, 2008 - 21:29 ET by MightyMouthAfter all, Morgan Freeman was willing to use nukes when needed. I would gladly vote for a guy like that.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
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March 19, 2008 - 21:38 ET by Cool ArrowBut from the standpoint that it would be proof positive that there is no more racism in America.
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My brother...
March 19, 2008 - 22:11 ET by MightyMoutha staunch conservative, says he is going to vote Obama, just so we can get this race thing settled "once and for all". He is willing to give up 4 years of liberal nonsense to end it all. I disagree with him, the race industry wont let it die. And make no mistake, Obama is all about race.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
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March 19, 2008 - 22:53 ET by Cool ArrowSorry, my computer is lacking a sarc button.
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Fear not...
March 19, 2008 - 23:05 ET by MightyMouthI am going to get him drunk on election day. Believe me he won't think politics for at least 48 hours. I know it's not a plus for the good guys but consider it a guy who worked late that day and missed the polls. I'll try to vote twice...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
»→ Thanks, MM
March 19, 2008 - 23:09 ET by Cool ArrowBarack will be busy politicking at graveyards throughout Chicago and it's predicted he will win in a dirtslide.
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Coulter is an ignorant
March 19, 2008 - 21:41 ET by motherbeltSo the Rev. Jeremiah Wright made comments that some portray as hate-filled and anti-American. Coulter (emphasis added)
Are there actually a lot of people who don't see "God damn America!" as hate-filled and anti-American?
Coulter is an ignorant apologist for racism, hate, anti-Americanism and, even worse, is an advocate of keeping black Americans in a perpetual state of anger and turmoil that will, in the end, only serve to keep them down and out. -WTH
Well said, Warner!
Maybe Obama running for
March 19, 2008 - 21:45 ET by balboaMaybe Obama running for president will bring these discussions to a head, where people, a lot of people not just Bill Cosby, will stand up and say "Succeed in spite of the history of slavery, civil rights struggles of the past; don't use them as an excuse for failure."
But that was not the text of BHO's SPEECH
March 19, 2008 - 21:50 ET by PawpawNIf he had stated such in his speech, maybe everyone would be more receptive. But he didn't even say "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!
I know. I'm just...hopeful.
March 19, 2008 - 21:51 ET by balboaI know. I'm just...hopeful. :-)
Hopeful?
March 19, 2008 - 21:58 ET by MightyMouthYou could be naive. The only difference is you wouldn't know the difference until you became disappointed.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
That's alright; I've been
March 19, 2008 - 22:02 ET by balboaThat's alright; I've been disappointed before.
In this political climate...
March 19, 2008 - 22:04 ET by MightyMouthwho hasn't, Amigo! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I was totally disappointed that BHO didn't even try to say GBA!
March 19, 2008 - 22:04 ET by PawpawNYou know any good politician at least throws in GOD BLESS AMERICA, even if it's just for show. Heck, BHO never ever mentioned it and of all clips I've seen of rallies, I don't believe he does it there either.
Yes, you mentioned that...a
March 19, 2008 - 22:07 ET by balboaYes, you mentioned that...a few times.
Was I the only one who picked up on that!
March 19, 2008 - 22:11 ET by PawpawNHeck, it was so obvious. Was I the only one who picked up on it? No one has mentioned it!
I didn't notice, didn't
March 19, 2008 - 22:20 ET by balboaI didn't notice, didn't think anything of it.
»→ We wish, bal
March 19, 2008 - 21:53 ET by Cool ArrowBut it is becoming more apparent that voices from the pulpit are seriously invested in the message of victimhood.
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We can only ...ah......um
March 19, 2008 - 22:03 ET by red_dragon311We can only ...ah......um ....yea.....hope. (or is it change)
But the thing is, BHO is part of the "Black thang..." tossing his white grandmother under the The Striaght Racism Express, is showing the lenghts he is willing to go to prove he is "down with the struggle" that he is "black enough" and not an Uncle Tom. which he would be labled if he didn't do what he is doing now.
I voted for the guy in 2004, he was young hip new, and Alan Keys is a nutter.
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Was IMUS venting or just making a joke!
March 19, 2008 - 21:53 ET by PawpawNHey, maybe IMUS was wrongfully accused and let go, although he got more money to come back! Was he venting! Was the Miss Senator venting? The list could go on & on with this excuse!
Unable to see the irony
March 19, 2008 - 21:55 ET by KC MulvilleIn #1, the editor shrugs off race-based hate as "free speech." But in #2, he compliments those who condemn the country for ... guess what? ... race-based hate. You can't shrug it off for the minister, and then condemn it for the country.
That shows the willingness to abandon intellectual consistency (i.e., rationality) when it proves inconvenient. It shows the inability to see the conflict and self-contradiction of your own statements. We have other words for this failure to see self-contradictions ... but few of them are polite ...
I stopped reading the far
March 19, 2008 - 22:08 ET by kgI stopped reading the far left wing rag that is called the Kansas City Star 15 years ago.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
above you said: "It's
March 19, 2008 - 21:57 ET by crsheddabove you said:
"It's hard not to "portray" Wright's comments as "hate-filled and anti-American" when he said that the U.S. basically deserved the murderous attacks on 9/11/01 that killed thousands of innocent Americans!"
since jerry falwell and pat roberson also said america deserved 9/11, they must also be anti-american.
and your comparison of the KKK to a church? give me a break.
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March 19, 2008 - 22:10 ET by Cool ArrowI think we brought 9/11 on ourselves with our unpreparedness at the hands of Bill Clinton. Having been bombed once before at the same location, our leader refused to see the first attack as an act of war, but as a criminal act perpetrated by a small group of individuals.
I am not unamerican.
The KKK analogy stands easily in that it also is an institution that often held its meetings among and within White churches. That this organization has been cast out of today's White Church does not change the parallel followed by Rev. Wright's church.
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This is embarrassing
March 19, 2008 - 22:11 ET by acumensince jerry falwell and pat roberson also said america deserved 9/11, they must also be anti-american.
I must have missed where Warner defended Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell's comments. Could you please direct me to that sentence/paragraph in Warner's piece?
and your comparison of the KKK to a church? give me a break.
I just have to apologize for my poor reading skills (I'm confident you can imagine how thick we dumb neanderthal conservatives can be) so once again I missed the comparison made by Warner of the KKK and a church? Could you please direct me to that sentence/paragraph in Warner's piece as well?
i didn't say warner
March 19, 2008 - 22:16 ET by crsheddi didn't say warner defended jerry and pat. i was taking his statement and applying it to others who also blamed america for 9/11.
warner wants to give another 'example' of lott having a relationship with the grand wizard of the kkk. i can't accept this as a equal comparison to someone's relationship to their minister. that's all i meant.
Doh!
March 19, 2008 - 22:34 ET by acumenOnce again I apologize. Stupid...stupid...(striking forehead).
Dumb ol' me thought you actually meant what you said.
Note to self - set up appointment with mindreading instructor.
I'm probably going to get this one wrong too but here goes. So I assume you have no problem voting for someone running for the highest political office in the land that has a pastor mentor of some twenty years that is clearly a divisive, racist, anti-semitic hate-monger?
i won't hold obama's pastor
March 19, 2008 - 22:47 ET by crsheddi won't hold obama's pastor against him. i won't hold hagee (or mccain's 'spirtial guide' parsley) against mccain (even though mccain went out of his way to get hagee's endorsement, and said how honored he was to have it).
i will vote for the person who, in my mind, will do the best to unify the country and move us forward.
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March 19, 2008 - 23:21 ET by Cool ArrowI could give you a short lesson in context, and I would, If you really wanted to know it.
And thank you for promising not to vote for Obama.
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Trent Lott was thrown under the bus for far less!
March 19, 2008 - 22:18 ET by PawpawNHey, Trent Lott was thrown under the bus and run over for a lot less!
the difference was that lott
March 19, 2008 - 22:21 ET by crsheddthe difference was that lott was thrown under the bus for what he said (wrongly, i might add), not for what his friend said.
But he was just venting!
March 19, 2008 - 22:23 ET by PawpawNDon't you know TL was just venting!
lott should never have given
March 19, 2008 - 22:50 ET by crsheddlott should never have given up his post. he made stupid remarks but who hasn't? i never thought they were any more than something nice to say to an old man on his birthday.
Charles Is Just Protecting His Territory
March 19, 2008 - 23:10 ET by RMRCharles Coulter knows darn well that this is not a "made-up issue". What drives people like Charles and other apologist for the "good" Reverend Wright is not so much a desire to defend him, but an attempt to maintain their social standing in the black community. Charles will do and say whatever he has to, to maintain his "unique" standing as one of the few "Black Opinion Page Editors" of a "major" newspaper.
Being the "first black man" to do whatever, or be awarded "whatever", and belonging to a "select group of blacks", is so important to people like Charles, that they are willing to destroy anyone to achieve "those goals".
Warner, if Charles were to do the things you suggested he will risk the chance of other blacks achieving what he has achieved, thus, eliminating his "uniqueness".
Being, and remaining a member of a "select group of blacks", is what inspires people like Charles to write such gibberish.
For whatever it's worth, I have been black all my life.
That's a very interesting
March 20, 2008 - 08:44 ET by Warner Todd HustonThat's a very interesting perspective. I think it sounds exactly right.
Well, I've been listening to
March 19, 2008 - 23:36 ET by ConservativeRexWell, I've been listening to a Rev Manning for the last little bit on You Tube, got the link off of Drudge. He has an interesting take on Obama, to say the least. And pretty much everything else too. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/v/khuu-RhOBDU&hl=en
hmmmm
March 20, 2008 - 03:03 ET by gordonThis Manning guy seems like sort of a kook, not quite as insane as Wright, but I found myself wondering where they kept the stroke medication. On a slightly different subject, I was listening to Wright's tirade and wondering exactly where blacks first received the idea of christian religion.....wasn't it from white people? Sooooo, maybe we invented Christianity to keep blacks in their place? Its all sort of a conspiracy, don't ya know.