Denver Post: If Your Kid is 'Poor' He's Eligible for 'Gifted' School Programs

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The Denver Post gave us a fine example -- not that they meant to -- of why every year our schools are turning out more semi-literate kids with over inflated egos. To the Post, of course, it's all good news that being poor in the Denver School Districts now qualifies a kid to be placed in the "gifted students" programs. To the Post this new classification "makes things more equitable" in those gifted programs. Why, it's giving minorities a "lift," you see? Of course, there isn't a word out of anyone in Denver if whether or not any of these kids suddenly classified as "gifted" students actually have any gifts that might prove them worthy of their politically motivated status.

In the typically empty fashion so popular among our ideologically left infested school administrations the country over, it's merely a matter of quotas and economic stats by which we measure success, not any true educational achievement. If your program for gifted students doesn't have enough of the right race of children (or the minority du jour) why then it must be obvious that the program is a failure. So, instead of improving the overall education for all students in order to bring minority students up to snuff so as to qualify them for entrance into a gifted program, the Denver Schools are just going to "add points" to the tests for kids merely because they are "poor," or if "English is their second language."

Voila, more "gifted" kids abound in Denver.

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Unsurprisingly the Post is enraptured by the new ratings that will give a "lift" that will "boost" these kids.

A new DPS system awards some kids an extra boost to make things more equitable... More minority and poor students in Denver are being classified as highly gifted under a new system that gives extra credit to children who are economically disadvantaged or nonnative English speakers.

So, with this revolutionary new way of rating kid's intelligence, being "poor" somehow automatically makes you "gifted" to these halfwits in the Denver School System. I suppose that one must draw the conclusion that being "rich" automatically makes you unworthy of inclusion in a gifted program, too? After all, for every action there is a reaction. (I learnt that in my gifted classes in school, you know?)

It used to be that those awarded inclusion in the "gifted" programs before this new plan went into action were given "oral tests that measure a student's reasoning and IQ." But, naturally, Denver's vaunted "social scientists" have now determined that tests that measure actual knowledge are bad, racist, biased things.

To make things more equitable, the district now relies on a sum of measures to determine eligibility into the highly gifted program -- cognitive tests, annual assessments, reading tests and teacher nominations. Next year, the district will consider artwork and writings.

Also, students get extra points toward entry into the program if English is their second language or if they receive federal meal benefits -- a measure of poverty.

So, little Johnny, now you can draw your teacher a nice, colorful stick figure and... whamo... you're in the gifted class! Way to go little Johnny. You are such a smart little feller! Can't do that math? Don't worry, if you are on a Federal food program, we'll forget all about those nasty old timie standards. U r smart!

Did it not occur to these politically correct fools that the reason kids didn't qualify for the gifted program before is because they aren't gifted?

Thomas Jefferson once said that there is a natural aristocracy among men. He meant that some people are just smarter than others. This doesn't not make the smarter people "better" people or the less smart worthless. It merely makes them different and suited to different things in life.

But, Jefferson wasn't as smart as the philosopher kings in the Denver School system who are so smart themselves that they can tell how "gifted" a kid is by looking at their parent's annual income or by reviewing a child's Federal assistance records.

And our new system in Denver succeeds in making us all warm and fuzzy inside as it informs us that we now have really, really smart kids in them thar gifted classes. Even if we do have to make up test results out of whole cloth to prove it.

As Joshua Wyner, executive vice president of the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation, told the Post:

"If what we are trying to do is measure not accomplishment but giftedness and talent, then putting your thumb on the scale or adding points for kids from low-income backgrounds re-equalizes things," he said. "The question is how heavy should that thumb be?"

If "giftedness" anything like "truthiness"? But, I do have an answer to how heavy that thumb should be. How about light as a feather? How about we measure the real "giftedness" by finding out the cognitive skills of a student before we pump his ego up with a "gifted" classification?

I know it's a radical idea.

Surely, these sudden reclassifications made merely to satisfy the politically correct "feelings" of hand wringing, self-hating administrators will actually hurt kids in the long run. After all, if they are to find themselves in "gifted" classes where they are unable to grasp the curriculum, how will that not serve to bruise their apparently so delicate egos? And, even worse, if the curriculum is dumbed down so that their egos aren't bruised, how does that serve these kids? If the program is dumbed down for the suddenly gifted, that aren't so gifted after all, won't this underserve those who truly are gifted but are now getting a less vigorous regimen?

And if these kids who have now graduated from a dumbed down "gifted" program, thinking they are smarter than the rest, go on to schools where the gifted programs are not dumbed down, won't they suddenly find they aren't as prepared to succeed as they were told they were? And won't that damage their education as well as their ego?

The Post obviously doesn't consider any of this and neither do those blinded by feelsgoodism in the Denver Public Schools. The last line of the Post piece is a perfect capper to what is wrong with American education... or lack thereof.

Soon, she hopes, kids from all backgrounds will have the same opportunity to be safe and weird in their brilliance.

Sorry, Denver. If those kids really aren't "brilliant," merely telling them they are does not make it so. In fact, it's lying to these poor kids! Ands that can't help anyone.


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I was fortunate enough...

...to get to take part in a similar program a few decades ago when i was in elementary school. One day a week I ended up at a different school where we had three of the first computers in the school district-Tandy TRS-80's fed by cassette drives.

The program specialized in "independent study" projects. Each class grade had a "theme" to work on during a semester. You'd end up doing reports based on your chosen subject at the end of that. The program consisted mainly of providing students with the tools and help they needed to reach that goal. Either we got real lucky or something, because we received the perfect teacher for the job-one who functioned as a facilitator, keeping her charges focused with a little help here and there, being able to recognize when progress was stalled by frustration or by slacking, and motivating thru examples. Kind of like the Perfect Manager.

Which means, if you weren't independently curious, able to be more self-motivated than the average 4th thru 6th grader, you didn't have a place in this program. Taking some kid who's there for political reasons, who doesn't measure up to the same standards as the rest, means disruption and ruins the experience for everyone.

But that's probably the purpose. Elevate slackers or problem children into the program, the program begins to fail, point fingers at "failed" program and cut it so you can spend more money on helping the "misfortunate" or more "Johnny has two daddies" propaganda. Remove the "unfair" program that only rewards the smartest or brightest (or anyone who's ahead of the "weakest link" public education system) because that's some sort of segregation.

Can't just reward the best, pay the most for the hardest worker...that wouldn't be fair to the lazy and selfish and mean spirited-aren't they people with hopes and dreams too? *BARF*

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

Taking some kid who's there

Taking some kid who's there for political reasons, who doesn't measure
up to the same standards as the rest,

Doesn't that sound a lot like the college admissions process?

I guess they're just starting the kids earlier now.

Hey, and if the kids can't measure up to the "gifted" program, you just dumb down the program so that they can. Or maybe you just redefine "gifted."

And pretty soon, the schools will be like Lake Wobegon, where "all the kids are above average."

 

And isn't this

the EXACT reason michelle obama is where she is today?

Hey DDM... I am

Hey DDM...

I am LOL... 

Excellent point!

I thought

you would appreciate the thought. :)

Well said WTH...

...I believe we are finally seeing the damage, in all its glory, caused by the Dr. Spock generation. Unfortunately the rest of the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise cannot help us with this one...

One thing is sure...

... they're all in outer space!

Indeed...

...but not far enough.

So what Denver winds up

So what Denver winds up with is a bunch of gifted idiots in their give me schools program. Can you just think of the things that will be said? In the mean time, the gifted schools are going to have to add remidial courses for Johnny to go to.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Coming soon:

Coming soon, to a school near you:

Remedial "gifted" classes. For those "gifted" students who aren't quite ready for the "gifted" material, but whose self-esteem could not handle being left behind.

All this school hate is so

All this school hate is so bizarre around here. 

Just homeschool your kids then.  Don't send them to college.

See how competitive they are in the market place once they become adults.

All I see from this article is someone trying to think outside the box to help poor kids that are stuck in horrible schools.  I fail to see what's wrong with this. 

Thanks...

Leon, thank you ever so much for a perfect example of the poor products of our schools. I appreciate the assist.

LOL Warner! Save a SeAL,

LOL Warner!

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

WTH, What do you

WTH,

What do you mean?

Are you referring to my status as a well-paid professional?

I'd think that was a good product of our school system.

 

»→ Leon

Sorry your parents don't get more credit for compelling you in the ways of studious endeavors.

We received charity from our local church.  My parents could not afford to send all 12 of us to Catholic school, but we were let in, and we were dirt poor.

But I'm happy to say my intellectual status was not elevated to "gifted" just because I was poor.

I am what I am.

♣ a seal

»→ I'll defend you Leon

Leon, you couldn't possibly be as intellectually challenged as you seem.

So you think it's logically correct to classify minorities as "gifted" because they are "deprived"

OK, I'm rethinking my first statement.

♣ a seal

Cool, What are you

Cool,

What are you talking about?  Did you even read the article?

Economic level is simply one of many factors assessed in the selection process.

Again, I see no problem with it.

Leon

Try and answer this then Leon:

How will a student who is POOR automatically able to perform schoolwork that is by definition more difficult than standard schoolwork?

 

Does being poor make you smarter?

Does being poor make you able to read at a higher grade level?

 

What you refuse to understand is that selection for "gifted' programs should be based solely on ability-not on achieving a pre-detemined outcome.

I know it makes you FEEL better (and more compassionate) but in reality you are just setting these students up for failure UNLESS THEY CAN HANDLE THE COURSEWORK.

 

And further, simply because of economics...

Most of the kids now being set-up for failure by this supposedly non-racist socialist school (it's not "hate," it's truth!) system might belong to one particular race.
JMR
A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

you are exactly right sarc - it's all about making believe that

they are giving minorities a fair shake. Their aim is to disguise their failure to help African American's as a group. There is nothing about being black that makes someone less smart or less gifted but the liberal created environment keeps them down. Instead of actually trying to fix the real problem (the environment) they just make exceptions so that their failure isn't the issue.

Thanks, Dee.

I think there are also some evil ones on the other side who are actually in the business of benefitting from racial strife, too, so for me it's beyond trying to disguise decades of educational failure. Seeing this kind of evil (along with hyperstupid legal cases) makes the accusation of "hate" particularly-ironic considering the behavior of source. But, needless to say, I'm getting used to that kind of irony these days...
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Hi Sarc - that story about homeschoolers is unbelievable

You should forward that to WTH or Tim Gram. I'm surprised it hasn't made bigger news, but then again I'm not. How outrageous.

I don't see how Republicans gain from racial strife. It seems like a pretty one sided benefit to me.

People who want more spending on education

Are the ones who stand to gain. Regrettably, it's not just one party advocating that anymore. Proof of that is found in the education budget my own spending-happy RINO governor, whose endorsement propelled McCain to victory here. Anyway, MB's WND article below is also good. One would think that politicians would notice this issue and have the courage to tell it like it is, but these days public school has attained "holy" status in our obese government, IMO.
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

I saw that same story on

I saw that same story on WorldNetDaily. They have a more comprehensive covering of the situation.

It's amazing. California has been trying to outlaw homeschooling for years now. They keep trying different tactics, and they keep losing cases, but they keep trying. I hope the SC smacks them down big-time.

 

»→ Leon's

"More minority and poor students in Denver are being classified as highly gifted under a new system that gives extra credit to children who are economically disadvantaged or nonnative English speakers".

Twist it any way you want.  Adding points to a child's "gifted" quotient because they are financially deprived?

So the Lib solution is to define deprivation as a gift.

♣ a seal

remember "separate but equal"?

How the hell does lowering standards based on race or income help anyone?

Different standards for minorities was what *real* civil rights activist fought against in the 50s and 60s. All the "Leon" types are doing is encouraging the separation again. By promoting the stupid and lazy just because they fit some politically designated group. Telling the poor and minorities that they're too dumb to make it on their own so we're just gonna cheat and "help" them.

What's next, Leon types? Different scoring in golf? What about the Olympics? Should we start fielding teams of couch potatoes instead of the best athletes? Should colleges be forced to allow fat white guys like me in basketball? How about separate hoops since "white guys can't jump"? I'm sure a certain dead German leader wouldn't have left the Olympics a few years back if those "minorities" had lower hurdles and shorter tracks to run, showing his Aryans had to work harder...

This sort of thing has proven to kill programs, to devalue companies. Favoritism in corporations hiring relatives based on family (because what makes one child poorer than another-his family) leads to worse management and creative constipation and later failure. Socially it's led to angry, entitled people who feel they deserve more and more.

But let's turn education into "easy come, easy go". And watch the newly entitled piss away their "gift" faster than a lottery winner thru cash.

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

First of all, Leon, why do

First of all, Leon, why do you start out your participation in this discussion with an accusation of hatred? I, for one, will not rise to that bait. Try to discuss the issue without accusing others of evil intentions, OK?

And your snarky comment about homeschooling and competitiveness as adults is completely uninformed. When you have studies and research to back up that claim (not "some guy" that you work with who was home-schooled and is an idiot) come back and present it.

These kids are being given "extra points" for poverty when being assessed as to whether they are "gifted." Do you think that being poor "boosts" their ability to handle the "gifted" curriculum?

And if you think the schools are "horrible" why just put a few of the "poor" kids in "gifted" programs? Why not just make the "gifted" programs the regular curriculum in those schools so all the kids can benefit?

 

This is the EXACT reason we home-schooled.

My son was put in GATE (Gifted and Talented) programs from a young age-they were poor programs for a variety of reasons and so we chose to home-school. He entered a major university at age 13, but dropped out...yes, he dropped out to join the Navy and become a Corpsman. Since he was at the top of his classes he had choices of where he wanted to serve. He chose to serve with the storied 5th Marines and go to Iraq. THEN he came home and graduated from the university.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but he is doing great.

gifted kids

Of course the Denver Public School System just drove a dagger into the heart of a program expected to elevate students of exceptional ability. That must really grate on Liberals ; they loathe anyone who is superior to their collective notions. Now, they can control the outcome not some overachieving brats.

 

This isn't giving a poor kid

This isn't giving a poor kid a leg up by removing him from a bad school and sending him to a better one where he could possibly reach gifted status if he has the fire in his belly and an eagerness to learn. This is taking an average or poor student and placing him in a gifted class where he doesn't belong. Padding scores and giving away points based on race or income is WRONG. It's as bad as those inflated high school grades that knocks an "honor student" off his pedestal when he finally goes out into the big bad world and it kicks his unprepared ass.

It's the same with college

It's the same with college admissions. They take kids that are borderline at best, award them 100 extra points for being a minority, and admit them to major colleges. They then require all kinds of remedial classes, can't keep up, and flunk out, when they might have been able to do very well at a smaller, less intense, and less competitive college.

 

»→ Colleges

And losers who graduate Harvard end up losers.

Winners who graduate Slippery Rock end up winners.

♣ a seal

Carlos Mencia

I just couldn't stop laughing at this! Anybody else remember the Mencia bit when he talks about how we've dumbed down our education? "I'm going to Havard, DDD!!!" Oh too funny.

I suffered my way through high school and THANK GOD that my teachers decided I needed to work harder and not just be awarded an extra boost to my failing grades. My grades were pathetic because I was lazy, it had nothing to do with the fact that my mother moved and left my older brother and I to fend for ourselves (IOW we was poor).

High school GPA was barely enough to graduate (bottom 10%), College GPA- 3.55.

Unintended consequences? Not so sure.

The consequences of placing these kids in gifted programs because of socio-economic status, race, gender, whatever ideological perfection of diversity the left requires, is that these children won't be able to measure up with failure being the result. But because they're poor, or a minority, they will be passed upward to the next grade where they'll be in the gifted program again. Is it not obvious that the left's goal is to turn out uneducated minorities who will remain dependent upon government for their every need thereby insuring their vote will go toward the party of handouts. The left imprisons the mind and body.

Anybody hear what Obama's wife had to say yesterday about Americans? We're "mean, cynical sloths," according to the wanna-be first lady. Ain't she sweet! 

The consequences of placing

The consequences of placing these kids in gifted programs because of
socio-economic status, race, gender, whatever ideological perfection of
diversity the left requires, is that these children won't be able to
measure up with failure being the result.

Well then, some compassionate liberal will demand extra help for those kids so that they can manage the "gifted" classes....or they will come up with  plan to make the "gifted" class less demanding, so that they can handle it (can you say "dumb down"?) until the term "gifted" has lost its meaning.

But hey, the kids will have great self-esteem, after all,t hey are "gifted", and that's what counts, right?

Special

When everyone is exceptional - nobody is

In elementary school, each

In elementary school, each year starting with 2nd grade and on up to 5th grade, I was tested for the gifted program.  Each year I just missed out because of my math scores.  No one bent the rules for me because my family was poor.  And I've turned out to be a perfectly well-adjusted adult-- one who understands that if I want any kind of promotion in life, I have to earn it by superior performance.

Denver is setting these kids up for failure and disappointment. 

Here in central Illinois.,

Here in central Illinois., my extremely bright, straight A son went to a grade school which had a gifted program coordinator on the payroll, but had nothing in the way of a gifted program. My son was tested and identified as gifted, but received no special attention during his time there. Apparently, the gifted money went for testing and that was it. I was not impressed.

Meanwhile, money, praise, and awards were lavished by the very liberal minority principal on the underperforming minority students, sometimes in blatantly racist displays. I had to conclude that the honkie gifted white kids just didn't rate any special treatment in her world view.

Just keep

Lowering the bar. Eventually it will hit the ground. Almost, but not quite there yet.

"and when everyone's super, no-one will be"

(from The Incredibles) yeah, I have kids :-)