You're all aware, I'm sure, of the several attacks against our fighting men and women perpetrated by city governments of late. The Berkeley City Council, who intended to try and kick Marine recruiting offices out of the city, and Toledo, where Mayor Finkbeiner refused to allow the Marines to exit a bus in his city when they arrived to start planned upon exercises, are all over the news. It is also well known that in Toledo, Ohio and Berkeley, California protesters for and against the Marines have been deployed to face each other and the news media have been there to chronicle it all. But, one paper has taken it upon itself to try and excuse the very people who put these ignorant politicians into office who caused these rows in the first place.
The Toledo Free Press published a recent article titled "Controversy over Marines rejection impacts city's development efforts", the main thrust of which is that people shouldn't blame the businesses of either Toledo or Berkeley for the actions of their politicians. But, after seeing all the whining about lost revenue by the business community in both cities and after seeing them plead with people not to blame them for what their politicians do, it left me wondering why shouldn't we hold voters accountable for what their politicians do?
The TFP detailed the fact that several projects from corporations and businesses outside the city that were considering investing in Toledo have begun to report that they are reconsidering their investments there because of the actions of Mayor Finkbeiner. For instance, Ward Brewer, CEO of a Florida based corporation that had intended to bring a multi-million dollar project to Toledo, is putting a hold on plans until the situation is resolved in the Marines' favor.
Brewer, during a phone conversation from his Florida office, said Finkbeiner's handling of the Feb. 8 incident was “inexcusable.” He said he would be speaking with “Marines,” which he declined to name, before issuing a final decision.
And Brewer isn't the only one.
Brewer is not alone in his sentiment, according to a Feb. 13 e-mail from Toledo Regional Chamber of Commerce President Mark V'Soske. The chamber received more than 60 e-mails and 30 phone calls Feb. 11 that addressed Finkbeiner's actions. Several of the individuals who called or wrote indicated they would change plans and not visit Toledo, V'Soske wrote in the e-mail, which was sent to the chamber's board members. Others said they would relocate their meetings or conventions from Toledo or boycott the city's businesses.
The Toledo Free Press also reported the moaning of Ted Garrett, CEO of the Berkeley Chamber of Commerce who said his office has been flooded with cancellations for the businesses in Berkeley since the City Council's stupidity made national headlines.
Garrett said his staff has since been explaining to responders that the Berkeley chamber's viewpoint is not the same as the city's elected representatives.
“Unfortunately what's happening is our businesses are being targeted as result of the city council's actions,” Garrett said during a Feb. 12 phone conversation.
Garrett said several Berkeley restaurants and hotels received an “unprecedented” number of cancellations after the council's Jan. 29 actions. Most callers and writers, he said, are blaming “everyone other than the person who's responsible” for the incident.
“This couldn't have come at a worse time,” Garrett said. “The economy is in the throes of a recession and this now just adds insult to injury.”
OK, it is true that the businesses in these two cities are hurting as a result of the disgusting actions against our soldiers by the two city governments. But, to a patriotic American, it would seem to be logical and just deserts for the denizens of those two places. Losing revenue and business is exactly the sort of retaliation that Americans specialize in when they find a business or city that violates good taste and patriotism. The power of the purse is a persuasive force as these whiny businessmen are discovering.
And what does the TFP try to hand us? Pity for the very people who voted these idiots into office! The TFP gives us the finger wagging warnings of Steve Weathers, the CEO of the Regional Growth Partnership of Toledo, who says that, "... Elected officials are just that -- elected. They do turn over." It's all as if we shouldn't blame the people of Toledo for what their politicians do and Weathers also wants us not to blame his Toledo businesses for what the city government does. But, who the heck puts them there? Who the heck has the power to control what these governments do if not the businesses and people who put these ignoramus politicians into office in the first place?
Then the TFP switches tracks and tries to shift the blame even farther from the politicians who attacked our armed forces personnel. The TFP shows us who is really at fault for all this. Why it's all those evil conservatives’ fault! They quote John K. Hartman, a journalism professor at Central Michigan University, to that effect.
"Basically, [conservatives] are looking for a distraction. They're looking for something to get their people fired up about to get them to forget the country is turning away from their point of view,” Hartman said.
Ah, so it isn't the unpatriotic politicians in office who actually were the ones that attacked the Marines, it's the fault of conservatives who have the gall to get upset by it! Simply amazing.
But here is the truth. If a city council does something stupid, it is absolutely the fault of the people who voted them into power. And it is completely legitimate for those who do not support the actions of the democratically elected politicians to step back and divest in the businesses in that city as a protest against their actions. It is a perfectly legitimate and peaceful solution to speak out against these cities by taking business elsewhere.
In this way, the people of these cities are feeling the pressure of their own votes. If the citizens of Berkeley and Toledo still firmly support the actions of their city leaders, why then they will be perfectly willing to deal with the financial loss that accompanies that decision. If, on the other hand, they do NOT support the politicians, why then they have the opportunity to use their power as voters and business leaders to force their politicians to listen to them and alter their policies against our armed forces.
But, stop the whining, will ya? There's no whining in business. And if you have the backbone to stand up and loudly proclaim that you hate our soldiers, well then stop being wimps and say so. On the other hand, if you want to be true, patriotic Americans, also stand up for that and force your politicians to do what YOU want them to do.
After all, politicians are supposed to listen to the voters, right? And the voters are ultimately responsible for what those politicians do. And the Toledo Free Press is out of line to suggest otherwise.














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Delicious Irony
February 16, 2008 - 13:32 ET by americaneagleDoes no one remember the economic boycotts that the liberals championed against any business that had dealings with South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s? This is simply the same type of action that the liberals loved so much when it was aimed at the apartheid policies of the SA government, now it is being turned on the left wingers in Berkeley and Toledo and they can't stand it. They weren't concerned with the effects boycotts had on the lives of SA citizens or the workers for the US companies they decided to target, so why should these cities deserve any breaks for the actions of their elected officials?
Turnabout is indeed fair play!
Excellent point WTH. It's
February 16, 2008 - 13:43 ET by Chris NormanExcellent point WTH. It's not like these politicians landed from Mars and took over these cities by force - although most of their policies are space - like. Apparently, the voters in these cities approve of their city governments antics, otherwise they would have dumped them.
It is a good point
February 16, 2008 - 14:34 ET by kgLiberals always to lay blame elsewhere. They never accept responsibility from their actions. They are also oblivious to the results to their actions. People that screwed up and so involved with themselves deserve what comes their way. Play with fire and you will get burned.
I have no desire to even travel through these cities much less stop and visit. I will simply add their city to my list of places never to visit.
A smart business move
February 16, 2008 - 18:00 ET by ThisnThatIf I were one of the businesses in Beserkly, I would take note of the fact that the city council authorized a Code Pink parking space in front of the Marine recruiting station to support Code Pink's protests.
So, I would carve out a parking spot in front of my business and put up a sign -- "Reserved for Marines only". I would then make sure that the Marines (or any other Service branch) were welcome in my store. They, and all other customers who felt the same way, would receive special attention and full respect throughout my business.
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If, on the other hand,
February 16, 2008 - 13:52 ET by drillanwrIf, on the other hand, they do NOT support the politicians, why then they have the opportunity to use their power as voters and business leaders to force their politicians to listen to them and alter their policies against our armed forces.
It's like when people send their kids off to public school ... They just carry on and figure the teachers will raise the kids for them.
Voters vote in somebody to office and then walk away from the voting booth just figuring "Well, it's in their hands now ..."
No ... No, it's NOT. We saw what "voters" can do when screaming in the ears of their elected officials when something just ain't gonna fly ... Remeber a few months back the Shamnisty Bill and how public pressure nixed that?
You DON'T just vote and move along. You need to slam your fist down on the proverbial desk in front of someone you've elected and tell them you are NOT being represented in the way you thought they would represent you ... Your voice isn't gone just because election day is over ... And even if the official isn't someone YOU voted for, they STILL represent YOU, not just the people who voted for them. A district is a whole district, a town/city is a whole town/city, a country IS a whole country ... not just who voted for the person.
When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks
Mayor Finkbeiner
February 16, 2008 - 13:55 ET by Lame CherryRush Limbaugh always points out that people on the left seem to emulate the names they have.
Who else but a Mayor named FINKbeiner would complain about the Marines. If my German serves correct beiner is like "more" so this guys name translates as More of a Fink.
In that I point out that, Warner Todd Huston is a strong manly name that one would immediately recognize as being a titan of thought.
Noel Shepherd's name one sees is intelligent, charming and witty. Exactly the person.
Matthew Sheffield sounds reserved, intelligent and British bulldog resolute..........yup that is what one has.
Brent Bozell..........sounds rugged intellectually and big in thought.....another example of the name fitting.
Even Mark Finkelstein lives up to his family name of fine crafters of wares..........his wares are crafted thorough and well in dealing with Bubbles and Pole Joe.
I honestly believe Congress must pass a bill into law to save liberals from themselves. After all what would a person like Ariana Huffington be but a dimwit liberal with a name like that. Joy Behar.......her name just bovines the heifer of bellowing nonsense. William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.....yeah sounds like a pimp doesn't he born in a trailer and now living in the big house still molesting women.
A Newsbuster board must be the arbitrator in this I believe. All children about to be named by liberals like Gary Hart, Barak Hussein Obama or John Edwards.........would immediately be red flagged and these poor children saved from liberal parents by naming them.........
Churchill Washington Hart
Clarence Thomas Obama
John Patton Edwards
See if these poor men had names that just spoke of manliness like the Newsbuster editors do then the world would be a better place and these men would be real men amounting to something.
Now Hillary might take a few more names undo her like:
Margaret Thatcher Elizabeth Bacon Custer Hamrod Rodham Clinton.........but see we can be flexible there too in saving children from liberalist naming.
We could have saved the world from Mayor Finkbeiner.
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→ Lame
February 16, 2008 - 13:58 ET by Cool ArrowThe kneepads are wearing a little thin.
"Warner Todd Huston is a strong manly name that one would immediately recognize as being a titan of thought."
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Screw both of those cities
February 16, 2008 - 14:29 ET by ArchConservativeI for one am glad that these cities are suffering. It's about time that the actions of these people have real consequences. If they don't call for the ouster of the City Council in Berkeley or the ouster of the Mayor of Toledo, I hope that more and more people and businesses pull out of these cities. Let the liberals and neoprogs find out what the free market is capable of and then maybe they will see that they cannot keep up their leftist, anti-military actions. Or maybe they won't.
You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.
This reminds me...
February 16, 2008 - 17:03 ET by heldmyw...of the last election the Palestinians undertook.
By supporting terrorists as legitimate government, they lost world support, money, sympathy, and ultimately took another step toward their own eventual annihilation.
Welcome to the experience Berkley and Toledo! You ARE responsible for the actions of your politicians.
Enjoy your stagger toward oblivion!
People deserve their goverment
February 16, 2008 - 22:06 ET by needleThere is an old saying: "People deserve their goverment"
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
I enjoyed my years in
February 16, 2008 - 17:07 ET by stratmanI enjoyed my years in Toledo. The people are generally pleasant in that midwestern average joe kind of way. I also had my fill of Mayor RatFink in short order.
There is substance to the citizens of Toledo pleading not to be punished for the foolishness of their elected mayor. There are, afterall, a few Conservatives living in the Liberal bastion of Toledo. But, these same citizens should be turning their frustration and anger towards the individual that comprimised the city and placed its residents under a black cloud: Mayor RatFink.
I suggest Toledoens (sp?) quit griping about the alleged wrongheadedness of people cancelling their visits/business trips and ventures with Toledo and do what Californians did with Gov. Gray Davis - Recall the Mayor and hold special elections ASAP. Throw the bum out. No more RatFink, no more problem.
Show the rest of us you not only believe in fair play but live by its tenents and visitors/businesses, and their money, will return to your town.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
"Esteemed" John K. Hartman's email address:
February 16, 2008 - 17:36 ET by m36b1Any case anybody wants to let pinhead Hartman know what they think about his "expert opinion", here's his email address: hartm1jk@cmich.edu
Central Michigans "Faculty Expert Guide" (yeah - there's a good 'ol socialist-elitist chest-puffer title if I ever saw one)
http://www.news.cmich.edu/experts/communication-and-the-media/
An old saying...
February 16, 2008 - 18:03 ET by ThisnThatOf the people....
By the people....
For the people.
The Marines had to endure the insults and rejection of the politions that were elected of the people.
Now, those very cities are being avoided by the people....
Who want the cities to give support and respect for the people -- our Marines.
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
As these businessmen should
February 16, 2008 - 18:04 ET by MikeBAs these businessmen should know, in agency law, the knowlege of the agent is knowlege of the principal. The mayor of Toledo is in fact the agent of the voters in that city, including those businessmen. If they and the rest of the city council don't like the actions of their agent, then they need to remove the mayor. The same is true of the Berkeley city council. If their actions are an embarrassment to the businesses, then the business owners need to start removal procedings. If they aren't willing to do this, then they need not complain when the actions of their agents have a negative impact on their bottom line.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Let see how did that line
February 16, 2008 - 19:04 ET by USA4freedomLet see how did that line go: we support the troops but we don’t support the war.
Look “we support the citizens” we just don’t support the city.
Just one more place that will not see any of my money. Just like Vermont, Hollywood, Aruba, etc. etc.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
This reminds me of the Caine Mutiny
February 16, 2008 - 21:53 ET by needleThis reminds me of the Caine Mutiny, by Herman Wouk, not so much on the details of the story, but of the dastardly machinations of a certain one of the ship’s officers, who was instrumental in instigating the mutiny while being careful to act as only a spectator.
Oh, did I forget to mention that the [scumbag] officer was by trade a journalist?
I was going to suggest that everybody who works for the TFP read the book, but then again they probably have.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Voted
February 17, 2008 - 00:23 ET by Jerry MackThe voters of Berkely knew what they were getting when they elected the council. Perhaps the voters of Toledo did not. If they didn't they should do something about the mayor. Do I hear recall?
Voters aren't responsible for organizing...
February 17, 2008 - 07:31 ET by Parker1227...and trying to influence their elected officials you guys. I mean, come on! That would make them "special interests" (spit twice), and we all know from Edwards and Obama (and Prof. Hartman) that "special interests" are pure evil - especially if they represent interests counter to the radical Leftist "progressive" agenda.
So conservatives had better quit "Swift-boating" everyone with the facts of how vapid, and anti-military, and anti-personal responsibility the Left truly is. If you don't quit, then the entire MSM (and McCain's top advisor) are going to accuse you of dirty politics - especially if you start spewing mean facts about their beacon of hope St. Obama.
Only a mean, mean, meanie would dare to criticize St. Obama. In fact, we all know from past experience that only racists criticize black people - especially black saviors who are so full of hope that they couldn't possibly be wrong on any of the issues.
support good decisions
February 17, 2008 - 08:01 ET by AgnosticWhile it may be necessary for me to acknowledge that there may be an inherent necessity in Mr. Ward Brewer supporting the troops as his company has a contract for bringing back the Fulton Class Tender to the Navy there is no reason that I see he had to do so publicly. As much as we would hope to see Toledo and Berkley politicians condemned for their actions we should take the time to thank Beauchamp Tower Corporation and their CEO for publicly standing up to the stupidity of elected officials.
Also to the point of the thread, as citizens we vote with our dollars hundreds/thousands of times of year but we only get to vote in the elections periodically and there are even limits on that. In what remains of our capitalistic system the dollars we spend hold more power of political action than our opinion will ever have.
Let's hold the right people responsible.
February 17, 2008 - 11:20 ET by pbthinkerAlthough the Mayor and the City Council are responsible for their actions, and should be held accountable by the voters, the real responsiblity should rest with the leadership of the Democratic Party. As soon as these stories broke, was there anyone that didn't know there was a (D) associated with these people? These people may have carried things too far, in some people's minds, but they're not saying anything different than leaders of the national Democrats haven't been saying.
It's been amazing to watch the Democrats tap-dance around the Iraq war (we support the troops but not the effort), well it's pretty obvious that many Democrats do neither, which shows just how difficult dancing on the head of a pin really is.
Of course the local politicians should be held responsible, although in Berkeley I assume there are a great many citizens that agree with the city council, but we shouldn't avoid the culpability of the national party and hold that leadership responsible, also.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.