Video update posted below.
Well, the AP has done it again. They have given us leftist propaganda and painted it as news. This time they have published the results of a "study" that claims that "Bush lied" in the run-up to Iraq and somehow the AP forgot to mention that the organization that released this study was funded by extreme leftist George Soros, who has spent billions funding the Democrat Party and many far left think tank and advocacy organizations. Yeah, THAT study is going to be legitimate!
This one may as well have been just a reprint of the press release of the Soros-funded Center for Public Integrity, but the AP dressed it up as an actual story written by reporter Douglass K. Daniel. Headlined "Study: False statements preceded war," the AP reveals how, "A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks."
What the AP forgets to mention is that the "two nonprofit journalism organizations" can hardly be imagined to be impartial. The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) is funded by well-known leftist, George Soros, as well as the Streisand Foundation, the Ford Foundation, and the Los Angeles Times Foundation -- all of which are exclusively leftist in political philosophy. Even more ridiculously, the second of these "non-profit journalism organizations" shares most of its board members with the first. So, the Fund for Independence in Journalism can hardly be considered a separate entity from the CPI.
The AP merely spews the claims form this study as if they are real news, but much of the APs story is disingenuous as is the "study.":
"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."
Two things here. First, few people now think Saddam had WMDs, of course. But nearly everyone thought he had them before we went into Iraq -- including the leadership of every nation on the planet as well as Saddam's own generals. So, it was not a "lie" if it was commonly thought to be true by nearly every head of state in the world. That Saddam had WMDs may have been a mistaken notion, but it was not a lie before it was known for sure!
Secondly, it is interesting that this "study" claims that Bush "lied" about links with al-Qaeda. Yet even they have to massage that claim of a lie into "meaningful ties to al-Qaida." This means that even they are admitting that there are ties with al-Qaeda but that they aren't "meaningful."
Does that mean the "lie" is not that the ties exist but how "meaningful" they are? Instead of a lie we are squabbling over semantics. In essence, Bush DIDN'T lie about ties to al-Qaida, the is just a debate on how "meaningful" those ties are.
In these very first two instances, Bush's "lies" turn out not to be lies at all.
The New York Times also regurgitated this "study" without bothering to disclose that it was funded by some very left agenda-pushing folks, but the Times does have one interesting line...:
There is no startling new information in the archive, because all the documents have been published previously.
So, the question remains, why is this such big news, then? Why did the AP and the NYT rush to report a story that has "no startling new information" in it?
Was it just a new chance to say, "Bush lied, people died"? It must be because there isn't any real news here.
Finally, it is also interesting to note that the database of "Bush lies" does not notate the context of those "lies." How many of them were widely believed by Democrats and Republicans alike at the time, but were proven later to be less than true? A statement given that is thought to be true (even if it turns out untrue later) is not a lie. It is just mistaken!
Regardless, that neither the AP nor the NYT revealed the leftwardly, partisan financial backers of the so-called "non-profit journalism organizations" behind this "study" is unforgivable.
Update/Video (Ken Shepherd | 11:20 EST): Below is a video showing that Democrats, including Clinton Secretary of State Albright and presidential contenders Sens. John Edwards (D-N.C.) and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) expressed belief prior to the invasion of Iraq that Saddam has and could use weapons of mass destruction.
















Comments Policy
Hatred
January 23, 2008 - 12:20 ET by iveseenitallThis is all the "liberals" have going for them---HATRED. Any American who buys this crap is also an anti-American hater. No need to go point by point in reaction to this nonsense. Simply understand what America is facing, even within its own borders. BTW, these haters support HILL-AR-EE! ---Please don't vote for her.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Follow The Smell...
January 23, 2008 - 14:13 ET by aeroveloTry this..
Click on Yahoo.com, find this story near the top of the page. Click on the AP link near the top of the page the story is on, notice how you are led on a goose chase of links regarding this story. Each link takes you to a more and more ironic site name at each click...
When you search out the story on the AP site you find a more in depth site dedicated to the story...
http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx
"Public Integrity.org"
Then you can go to...
http://www.tfij.org/
"The Fund For Independence In Journalism"
OMG...thats hilarious. And notice, there is almost NO way to contact any contributors of the story or post a reply about what you think of the story...however you are given ample opportunities to contribute to their funds.
This is one giant TURD PUMP...with the AP manning the shovels 24/7.
8^)
Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!
Aside from the topic at
January 23, 2008 - 12:21 ET by midnight cowboyAside from the topic at large.....
George Soros is one ugly M'erF'er. With all the money in the world why hasn't someone told him that the 90 year old looking face doesn't jive with the 20 something hair.
It could be the light...
January 23, 2008 - 12:36 ET by heldmyw...but does it look like there are two triangular protrusions, symmetrically located right at the hairline in that atrocious pic?
Like budding horns?
...
January 23, 2008 - 12:51 ET by dervishthe edge of his toupee, I'd guess...
→ dervish
January 23, 2008 - 12:56 ET by Cool ArrowI think heldmyw has a point. I'm seriously creeped out now that I look a little closer.
I just saw them too...they
January 23, 2008 - 13:00 ET by taterI just saw them too...they must have cut out the part of the picture where he's holding a pitchfork.
Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns
held -- oh, that pictures
January 23, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Jack Bauerheld -- oh, that pictures just a first-generation Soros clone. They've eliminated the "devil horns" fault in the next-gen Soros 2.01 series.
The real Soros actually died about 20 years ago, in a freak sexual accident with Anna Nicole Smith. Smothered to death.
I've looked closely
January 23, 2008 - 14:02 ET by WildBillThose are definitely horns coming out of the old boy! Figures.
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
Funded by Soros, to combat the Arrival of Petraeus in April
January 23, 2008 - 12:22 ET by JayTeeHow much Longer will we be seeing this Drivel ? Since Bush isn't running, this must be motivated by the soon to return to Congress to Testify, Gen. Petraeus.
Too much positive info coming out on the Iraq War is bothering Soros, his message is fading, and HOW the #&$^% does this Journalistic rehash of old news get TOP BILLING in the MSM, but the IRAQ War Progress goes UN-Reported ? ?
Soros is losing his Grip, and this is a desperate AP attempt to indirectly hit Gen. Petraeus before his Return trip to Congress, because that Testimony WILL BE entertaining....and I hope Hilary and Friends are not too busy campaigning to attend.
"Barack Obama is a Powerful Speaker—And so is My Bose Bass Amp" Doug Giles
what scares me
January 23, 2008 - 17:59 ET by UndercoverConservativeis that one man's money, one man's greed, one man's desire for power, one man's ideals...all these unquestioned or unleavened by even a trilateral committee or even sycophantic political party...can be allowed to cause so much damage and so much disarray for an entire nation and it's peoples.
One simple, smallminded man. One of proven lack of concern for freedoms and welfare of others. One of deliberate profiteering and of exploitation of fellow humans. One megalomaniac.
Balanced against a whole nation, millions of people from all walks of life, all philosophies and temperaments. Their votes vs. his money. Their protests vs. his advertising. Their voice vs. his propaganda.
And the balance is in his favor. We've been inundated with this guy's evil since he declared he'd so anything to "defeat" Bush after his first election. We've suffered in crime in our cities which hurts and kills many civilians, and we've been hamstrung in war which leads to the deaths of warriors, and draws out conflict creating multigenerational cycles of hate.
How much evil and hatred and sabotage and death could have been prevented by simply hiring an "independent operator" to place "671 grains of diplomacy" right thru the source? How many deaths could have been prevented, or could still be prevented? What about the deterrent-some wannabe financial dictator knowing that money doesn't mean unaccountability, might think twice about brazenly influencing the affairs of nations through propaganda and attempted thought control.
Interesting..
January 23, 2008 - 12:23 ET by dervishhow they started the clock at 9/11/01. I'll bet you can find similar "lies" emanating from the executive branch for at least 10-12 years before then.
Was just investigating this "news" article Yahoo "top" news
January 23, 2008 - 12:25 ET by MaximusBraveheartAlso funny that The Center for Public Integrity is run by William E. Buzenberg, formerly a vice president at American Public Media / Minnesota Public Radio. I don't associate "public radio" as telling the whole story. It is telling the LIBERAL story; LOL. By their own standards, doing such is certainly lying.
Great coverage WTH
January 23, 2008 - 12:30 ET by Dee Bunkand as I said in the open thread, they want to make it sound like he made 932 different lies about different things.
I was listening to NPR this
January 23, 2008 - 12:34 ET by Roger the ShrubberI was listening to NPR this morning and, during a segment highlighting the ever-increasing odds of the US falling helplessing into endless, suicide-inducing recession, none other than George Soros was interviewed for his expert opinion on how bad things could get.
Kudos WTH for wading
January 23, 2008 - 12:37 ET by Jack BauerKudos WTH for wading through the morass of interlinked foundations, groups and individuals to get right back to Soros, and other extreme left-donating foundations.
This smokescreen on so-called non-profits (sic) is all designed to hide people like Soros with their billions in 'profits.'
Check out the names and bios of all the alleged "journalists" who work for these so-called non-profits. (Uh, like they work for nothing. Yeah, right)
It's like an exclusive club for those in the 'know.' They all seem to have worked for NPR, left-leaning publications.
Please tell gs we are
January 23, 2008 - 12:44 ET by EdhenryPlease tell gs we are beyond the "run-up", and we are now into winning.
Cant wait to see gs' rewrite of history, in 6 years, after we win.
If it weren't for AP
January 23, 2008 - 12:39 ET by Captain RepusIf it weren't for AP (American Pravda) how would we ever get meaningful news. I am now convinced that I WILL NOT vote for George Bush in November. Damn liar.
LOL
January 23, 2008 - 18:20 ET by UndercoverConservativebest hit-n-run post in weeks! Coulda sprayed my soda had I been swallowing at the time I read that!:)
Integrity and Soros are mutually exclusive
January 23, 2008 - 12:43 ET by szampI’m always impressed with how they name these organizations. The Center for Public Integrity? I wonder what is their notion of integrity.
I figure...
January 23, 2008 - 12:50 ET by dervishthey misspelled "pubic."
Szamp
January 23, 2008 - 12:54 ET by iveseenitallGreat point, Szamp. This is high up on the list in the Communist "how to " manuals. Notice all the "patriotic", "moral", wonderful sounding names these organixations have. It's all part of the plan. Please read all you can about the commies. They haven't gone away by a long shot (HILL-AR-EE, HILL-AR-EE!)
"Bush lied, people
January 23, 2008 - 12:45 ET by Free Thinker"Bush lied, people died"?
600,000 Iraqis to be exact. Oh wait, that was a number from another Soros group that has now been discredited. Sounds to me like the only one lying here is Soros and his bunch. The whole Bush lied mantra of the far left is so old and tired. I love asking someone who spouts this to tell me one of the lies and no one ever can.
Todd
January 23, 2008 - 12:58 ET by ricklailAfter a post on the open thread about this I looked it up for myself to see who the 2 organizations are. When I saw donors like the Streisand Fountain and the Ford Foundation, that told me all I needed to know. I didn't find Soro's name there but may be I didn't look good enough. I also found the same about the board of directors.
Center for Public Intergrity donors board
Fund for Independence Journalism donors board
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.
Excellent, thanks for
January 23, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Warner Todd HustonExcellent, thanks for following up.
Yellow Journalism
January 23, 2008 - 14:08 ET by stratmanDid the same. These two entities are basically clones of one another. The idea, I imagine, is to publicize their bias in a one-two punch, making it seem as if two separate groups reached the same conclusion independently, when in fact they are mouthpieces for the same masters.
I did find it amusing that there is a guy named "Bevis" on both boards. How apropos given Soros is a "Butthead".
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Hell, even Wikipedia has
January 23, 2008 - 14:15 ET by Roger the ShrubberHell, even Wikipedia has details on Soros's connection to the Center for Public Integrity...
It is quite easy to "spot the loony" (to borrow a phrase from my Python heroes)…
Pretty much any ”progressive" cause receives funding from one (or all) from the below list:
Ford Foundation
Tides Foundation
Rockefeller Family/Brothers Fund
Heinz Endowments
Here's a couple more who are funding the CPI:
The Compton Foundation, who co-founded the Iraq Peace Fund through, guess, The Tides Foundation.
The Deer Creek Foundation, who also funds the Center for Media and Democracy, who gets money also from Rockefeller.
Stewart R. Mott Charitable Trust, who also funds, guess, The Tides Center, among pretty much every other left-wing operation out there.
Park Foundation, Inc., who also fund the afore-mentioned Center for Media and Democracy.
The Scherman Foundation, who also funds ACORN, ACLU, and pretty much every other socialist kook group out there.
Town Creek Foundation, who also fund many envirowhacko groups.
Wallace Global Fund, who also funds, surprise, Center for Media and Democracy…
The web is dizzying.
Roger
January 23, 2008 - 14:22 ET by ricklailThanks. I didn't take the time to do all that. When I see that Streinsand is involved that is enough for me.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.
Me, too, my Piedmontian
January 23, 2008 - 14:54 ET by Roger the ShrubberMe, too, my Piedmontian friend.
It did get poor Alan Colmes, er, Leon, fired up enough to PM me with this little ditty:
I find it interesting that there is constant complaining on NB about Soros, his influence and shady dealings, meanwhile the Sarah Scaife Foundation is one of the MRC's major sources of funds. Scaife and Soros are exactly the same, just different sides of the aisle. In fact, you could argue that Scaife's transgressions and forays into propaganda were much more damaging and much more corrupt than anything Soros has ever done.
Scaife paid David Brock to write hit pieces on the Clintons that were nothing more than lies. People forget about that now and still cite those articles by Brock to attack Clinton, even though it's been proven he was just lying to advance Scaife's agenda. I
t seems like attacking Soros so often could just blow up in the MRC's face considering their benefactor's past. I'm not going to bring it up b/c I don't want a Sheffield email, but I'm surprised nobody else has.
It's seems a bit two-faced if you ask me.
Boo-hoo-hoo.
Roger Fulfills Leon's Wishes
January 23, 2008 - 18:26 ET by LeonThanks Roger,
At least now I can't get banned b/c I didn't post it. You did. haha. This is hilarious. I knew you'd do that!
Mission accomplished. You did exactly what I thought you would do. Post the private message I sent you. Seems to be the standard operating procedure for all sensitive/desperately seeking acceptance NB regulars (RJ, BT, you).
You didn't even edit it. I thought you might take some stuff out but you didn't. You posted everything I wanted to say. Verbatim. Right into my trap. You're almost too easy to manipulate. Like a child.
ha. Thanks! Appreciate the assist. We make a great team!
Nice try, Alan, but you
January 23, 2008 - 18:53 ET by Roger the ShrubberNice try, Alan, but you need to work on your "brave adult face". I have told you in the past not to PM me and to post your whiny unsubstantiated rants on the board, so there you have it. You are at least admitting that those were your words, unedited, from the heart, and, as usual, full of crap. Laughable.
Next time you PM me to whine & call me a d**k, be the big strong fraternity Swarthie stud you claim to be and do it on the public board like a real man, okay, Pumpkin?
Exactly, Roger
January 23, 2008 - 19:04 ET by RJLeon's ego won't allow him to believe that we don't have any interest in conversing with him through PMs. So he does it anyway and then whines when we do exactly what we've said we would do....put it on the open board. :^)
Roger, Your bravado
January 24, 2008 - 09:04 ET by LeonRoger,
Your bravado doesn't change the fact that you did exactly what I predicted you would do, and in doing so, said what I wanted to say without me having to say it.
It's hilarious. It really is.
Thanks.
So, you predicted
January 24, 2008 - 10:45 ET by Roger the ShrubberSo, you predicted afterwards what I was going to do, and admitted what I posted were indeed your words, yet somehow I said them for you? As usual, it all makes perfect sense.
1. You made a prediction AFTER THE FACT. Let's see.... PREDICT: to declare or tell in advance.
2. You used your own words, yet somehow think they weren't?
How do "you people" stay employed, with all this easy-to-follow logic? By "you people" I mean, of course, just one person, right, Alan? The hits just keep coming, don't they. Don't stop, Alan. Please, for the love of God, keep on posting.
Rog, Painful
January 24, 2008 - 10:52 ET by LeonRog,
Painful post.
Avoid logical reasoning and stick to what you're good at.
Cheap, personal attacks.
Play to your strengths. It fits you much better. Enables your bitterness to really shine.
Poor Leon, er, Hater, er,
January 24, 2008 - 13:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberPoor Leon, er, Hater, er, Alan Colmes, just cannot seem to grasp the MULTIPLE logical gaffes he has committed the past few weeks. Pointing them out to him hurts his feelings, thus equals "personal attacks".
The old adage "Being a Liberal is standing on your head and telling the world it is upside-down" is at play here, big time.
Just remember folks, in true Liberal fashion, Leon only RECEIVES personal attacks, never DELIVERS them. Always the victim, always the victim.
Rog, I never claimed you
January 24, 2008 - 18:34 ET by LeonRog,
I never claimed you attacked me. Re-read the post.
I simply pointed out that all you are good for is personal attacks.
It was a general comment.
"Scaife = Soros"?
January 23, 2008 - 20:54 ET by Del DolemonteHey Alan, er, I mean Leon:
According to wiki, Soros spent over $23 million of his own money to beat Bush in 2004. Do you have any credible cites showing Scaife spent anywhere near that amount in a single election cycle?
(sound of crickets)
When Alan cites his
January 23, 2008 - 21:59 ET by Roger the ShrubberWhen Alan cites his "sources", they usually end up being Soros-funded, not a "hard news" source.
You and I post from CNN or ABC News. Alan posts from "Seventh-Day Adventist Lesbian Treehuggers Online" and expects the same respect be given.
Out loud chortle, Rog...
January 23, 2008 - 22:11 ET by JABthanks for the evening laugh:
"Seventh-Day Adventist Lesbian Treehuggers Online"
and as a stright male, how was it I signed up for that again?
Also, let's not forget, "become a republican, it dosen't leave a bad taste in your mouth".
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
... not to get too personal,
January 23, 2008 - 22:28 ET by Warner Todd Huston... not to get too personal, but I have always been a lesbian. The "butch" one, though. I am told I look horrible in frilly stuff. And pink ain't my color fer sure.
... it, it was just an experiment. A youthful indiscretion. No, wait... I did not have sexual relations with that woman. ...wait... does it depend on what the definition of "is," is again?
Warner, carry on sir :-)
January 23, 2008 - 22:34 ET by JAB"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."
Del, I fail to see what
January 24, 2008 - 09:12 ET by LeonDel,
I fail to see what election cycle spending has to do with paying a fake reporter to right lies about the Clintons in order to fabricate a scandal.
This thread is about Soros-funded studie's being pawned off as legit without referencing their source. It has nothing to do with spending.
Stay on topic.
Furthermore, it's weak to do the crickets chirping at 8 pm. Again, some of us leave our houses.
Del, Had a minute,
January 24, 2008 - 10:37 ET by LeonDel,
Had a minute, thought I'd counter your Soros money attack.
In 1993 alone, Scaife and Carthage foundations donated more that $17 million to conservative think thanks.
LINK
So like I said in my message to Roger. Soros and Scaife are the same.
Convicted felon Soros
January 24, 2008 - 10:51 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsSoros and Scaife are the same.
We know Soros is a convicted felon, so what has Scaife been convicted of?
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Convicted felon? In
January 24, 2008 - 10:57 ET by LeonConvicted felon? In France? That hardly counts. It's barely even a real country.
Duh, we invented Freedom Fries for a reason.
Scaife quick facts:
1) Paid $2.4 million to fund the Arkansas Project which paid David Brock to write lies about the Clinton's in Spectator magazine to discredit the president
2) Paid David Hale to give him incentive to testify
3) Bankrolled the Paula Jones sexual harassment case against Clinton
4) Expelled from Yale after getting down and dirty at a booze fest.
Again, they're both the same. They've both engaged in questionable behaviors. Just different sides of the aisle.
Convicted felon Soros
January 24, 2008 - 11:04 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsHmmm, I am wondering, are those blinders you are wearing or just rose colored glasses? Convicted felon.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
DFTT, I'm not condoning
January 24, 2008 - 12:23 ET by LeonDFTT,
I'm not condoning his insider trading and it makes him look like a crook. No dispute here.
But in terms of their political acitvities, which is what we are talking about, Soros and Scaife are the same and use similar tactics/spend similar amounts of cash to advance their agendas.
The more important question than which one is worse, is why do we have a political system in which one guy with a lot of cash can exert this much influence?
That's the question we should be looking at.
What's torkin me off is that
January 24, 2008 - 12:33 ET by Warner Todd HustonWhat's torkin me off is that the guy with the most cash is the one that gets elected these days!
WTH, Torkin you off?
January 24, 2008 - 18:37 ET by LeonWTH,
Torkin you off? That sounds dangerous.
But I agree with you. $$$ is the problem with politics from top to bottom.
You can't get into it without money and you can't win once you're in without money. It's a sad state of affairs.
1993? Wow. Way to be
January 24, 2008 - 20:06 ET by Roger the Shrubber1993? Wow. Way to be relevant.
Good source, your link is. When you check out the Open Society Institute, not one mention of money. Why not? Because Sourcewatch is run by the Center for Media and Democracy. And who funds CMD: The Rockefeller Fund (as usual), The Funding Exchange (funded by the Ford Foundation), The Schumann Center, Threshold Foundation, Turner Foundation, Stern Family Fund, and Baumann Foundation (who all also fund The Tides Center/Foundation), and other leftie organizations.
Even more interestingly, and much more relevant, the Open Soociety Institute gave over $65 million in 2005 alone to left-wing groups, and $7 million to the Tides Foundation since 2001.
Amazing that pretty much every piece of evidence Alan Colmes posts here ends up having George Soros money involved...
Ahem. Cool Runnings is
January 24, 2008 - 20:21 ET by balboaAhem. Cool Runnings is always relevant.
So Rog, Are you saying he
January 25, 2008 - 10:06 ET by LeonSo Rog,
Are you saying he didn't donate that money?
I'm not following your post (which you clearly spent a lot of time on). Are you disputing the numbers I put up? Or just the source? Because it's public information you know. It might be more effective for your LEON stalking if you actually dispute the numbers I posted.
The source is biased you claim, so does that mean Scaife didn't spend $17 million in 1993? Just curious.
And 1993 is relevant. You're analyzing the activities of a left-wing billionaire fund raiser during a Republican Administration. I'm analyzing the activities of the a right-wing billionaire fund raiser during a Democrat Administration.
Or course it's relevant. It's a perfect comparative analysis.
I have never denied Scaife
January 26, 2008 - 09:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberI have never denied Scaife gives money to right-wing causes.
I just laugh when, just like using Fox News as evidence of right-wing media bias, people like you try to compare the fractional donations of the right-wing activists in the 1990's versus the left-wing activists. Your analyzing is not considering the amount of money being invested in causes.
Add to that, you worship all those Soros-funded websites and actually use their propaganda as HARD NEWS AND GOSPEL. I DO NOT. That is the difference,. You are a partisan hack. I do research (which you obviously despise, since you mock any effort put in to show you wrong - which is usually pretty easy), and I use research to make sure I am on solid footing before posting. You, unfortunately for you (and fortunately for us), rarely do.
What you consider "perfect comparative analysis" is, in the real world, whiny left-wing rambling.
Does that help you understand a little better, pumpkin?
Little One... I sure do
January 24, 2008 - 18:47 ET by bigtimerLittle One...
I sure do take it as a privilege to be included here with RJ and Roger with you saying I have posted your PM's to me...but you know that is an outright lie...I don't do that.
Number One you have had sense enough to only PM me once and that was short and to the point...all I said in reply to you was put your link on OT...which you did...so what is your beef and why lie like that?
Eh?
BT, I apologize for my
January 24, 2008 - 18:50 ET by LeonBT,
I apologize for my faulty memory.
You are correct and I stand corrected.
It was one of the NB ladies, but clearly not you. Oh well.
Correction: BT did not post any PMs I sent her.
Sorry.
Apology accepted...don't be
January 24, 2008 - 18:57 ET by bigtimerApology accepted...don't be so quick on the draw.
btw...if Rog warned you that he would do that...you should of took heed and listened.
All I know is that I never
January 24, 2008 - 19:01 ET by Warner Todd HustonAll I know is that I never posted anything Leon ever sent ME... in fact, I refuse to even read them. Heck, I didn't even open them and now have 76 Leon messages in my in box.... wait... now there's 77.
Now he did send me a Lobstergram, though. That was good.
The flowers wuz a nice touch.
The subscription to the New York Times was over the top, I have to say.
And, Leon... I cannot accept the Ford Taurus. It's a popular car, but come on. Its blue, man. I'm a REPUBLICAN!!
OK, I admit I read them... but only because I'm holding out for tickets to the next showing of Broadway's Cats.
How does one tap into the money train?
January 23, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Lame CherryMr. Huston, perhaps it would be a good idea for Newsbusters to explain how one taps into the money train of George Soros as he hands out big bucks to wackos.
Now while you are too high profile, I would be certain that there are Newsbusters who could if given contact information could Barbie Doll:
1. George Bush lied
2. People died because chimp Bush lied
3. George Bush hates black people
4. George Bush is the most brilliant stupid evil Christian doped up sober homosexual straight lead about by neocons absolute dictator on the planet. (This last one is how Jeff Rense posts his stories in the wacko version of their idea to mould Bush to fit all situations.)
So said Newsbuster writes letter acting nuts or democrat, requests how to start a non profit from Soros funds and probably could ride that Soros welfare train for a few years until they figured out your mailings were all supporting Conservatives.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Question is George Soros and Maddy Albright the same person?
January 23, 2008 - 13:11 ET by Lame CherryIf you notice the pictures posted of Maddy Albright and Georgie Soros.........do not they look like the same person in a bad Saturday Night Live sketch?
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Soros better looking
January 23, 2008 - 13:16 ET by PawpawNSoros is better looking
LC -- lol dude. That's a
January 23, 2008 - 13:17 ET by Jack BauerLC -- lol dude. That's a great idea. How about...
Progressives Regaining Influence, Contributing Knowledge Society
Jack as I was wiping my
January 23, 2008 - 13:47 ET by Dan The Man 2Jack as I was wiping my work area up I still laughed at your orgaization. i wonder how much milage I could get out of this "organization". I'm tempted to set up a website devoted to it, if I become unlazy that is.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan -- as Homer would say,
January 23, 2008 - 15:29 ET by Jack BauerDan -- as Homer would say, it's funny because it's true!
Here's the one I'd start for
January 23, 2008 - 13:50 ET by Warner Todd HustonHere's the one I'd start for the lefties:
The "We are better than you because we CARE and you suck" organization
WTH -- yes, that would
January 23, 2008 - 15:27 ET by Jack BauerWTH -- yes, that would garner mucho casho from Mr Palindrome.
Just look at the websites
January 23, 2008 - 13:19 ET by exLibJust look at the websites content tells you all you need to know.
I tried not to spend more than 5-10 minutes looking at what they were all concerned about and not ONE of their stories dealt with dishonesty by Democrats.
One particular "investigation" was how horrible it was that Bush was giving away 15 billion to fight AIDS in Africa and was saying that if you don't stress abstinence you can't have the money. They were all bummed because of course the only logical way to fight aids is to not try to stop the sex but to teach kids to use condoms. Ridiculous.
I didn't even need to know who funded it or anything else. If you are truly a non-partisan organization, then there should be some stuff about media cover-ups or mis-reporting. Things seriously lacking in "objective" sites like the 2 mentioned and another "Orwellian-Named" organization "Fair".org.
non-partisan means partisan, LOL
January 23, 2008 - 13:41 ET by MaximusBraveheartYou forgot to use your liberal media codec... non-partisan means partisan liberal / usualy lying/ AKA meaning of "is." LOL. Partisan/conservative means objectively non-partisan and realistic. This codec is not distributed to the main-stream-citizens (MSC) however.
False statements preceded war?
January 23, 2008 - 13:27 ET by mastersofdeceitPoster reasonjester actually put up a thread last night about this in the forums. You can read my response here.
http://newsbusters.o...
Wow. Helen Thomas looks 60
January 23, 2008 - 14:26 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveWow. Helen Thomas looks 60 to 70 years younger with those glasses she's wearing in the photo...still pretty scary though.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon", 1942
RNC video on WMD's - rather weak effort
January 23, 2008 - 14:26 ET by Gary HallWell, the RNC video (with no lack of respect to you and Ken here) was about the best video that was put out, but in my view they missed the more powerful cases.
The left has defended their case in these examples by suggesting that the 1998 material from the Clinton administration was prior to us (the Bush admin.) finding out more in 2002 - after the inspectors went back in briefly after being gone for more than 2 years (was it 3 or 4?). Secondly, they claim that the comments by Democrats, (those noted in the ad) were made just because those D's had bought hook line and sinker, the lies and misrepresentations that Bush has sold them.
A better case would be a video which shows:
Al Gore in Sept. 2002 stating on the record that he was still "absolutely, absolutely" convinced that Saddam still had WMD's.
Bill Clinton in July 2003, on Larry King Live, stating that he still believed that Saddam had the WMD's; that we should not make a big deal about the potential debate over the silly "16 words" in the STOTU address; and that we should stand behind the president and bring a democracy to the people of Iraq - that is what is important, he said.
Secretary William Cohen in 2003 saying that Saddam was probably still just moving the materials away from the sites in trucks, just as they were doing back in the 90's -- fooling the inspectors.
Sen. John Edwards on Meet the Press being very clear, that he did not just take the words and evidence of the Bush administration, he went back and talked to the Clinton officials, who confirmed that Bush had it right.
And of course, there were those high up Democrats, such as Sen. Levin (D) -- who as Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee had their strong feelings, as well:
When will the Associated Press decide it's time to just come out and tell the truth; that the media has misrepresented, twisted, and lied about almost every aspect of the history, the facts and the views which were offered up by many in the know.
Great points Gary
January 23, 2008 - 14:32 ET by Dee BunkWhy don't we have any conservatives that will put together videos with this stuff? What about the Press reports on Ansar al Islam and the training camps in Salmon Pac? They were all over the News and I don't remember Bush specifically mentioning them.
Free Stinker is keeping a great list somewhere.
Did somebody say "What WMD?"
January 23, 2008 - 22:18 ET by Free StinkerThank you Dee!
The Invasion Of Iraq Was The Right Thing To Do
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Free Stinker -
January 23, 2008 - 23:08 ET by Gary HallI noticed on your list that you listed Clinton response (thank you Bill) to the assassination attempt on former President George Bush, Sr. by Saddam. I assume you know that the op was officially dubbed, "Operation Bushwacker." (;~> gary
What was Saddam hiding when he stalled the Inspectors?
January 23, 2008 - 15:01 ET by Hunter12I remember once when I was about 15, I stalled my mom from cleaning my room so I could hide an old copy of Playboy. Do you think Saddam had warehouses full of porn he didn't want Hans Blix to see?
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Soros is evil
January 23, 2008 - 15:04 ET by FAQsIf you were thinking about not voting in November remember that Soros is funding both Obama and Hillary.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members...."
Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
As usual, they offer no
January 23, 2008 - 18:48 ET by ckc1227As usual, they offer no proof that "Bush lied". All this piece proves is that Bush and others were wrong. Being wrong isn't the same as lying.