They hate us, they love us, but they want us to comply with "Yankee go home," and leave them alone. Yet they crave our cash, our military protection, our cash, our leadership, our cash, our culture, oh, and our cash. Now they want to vote in our elections, too. To that end, a Brussels newspaper called De Standaard has issued the call for liberal Europeans to vote in our elections. And, WHY does Evita Neefs of De Standaard think she should be allowed to vote in our elections? Is it because we have such a great system, one she is dying to be a part of? No, it's because she wants a chance to vote into office candidates that will restrict the U.S. on the international scene, that's why. In other words, she wants the right to vote so that she might use that privilege to materially cripple U.S. interests. Well, at least she has the same goal as our own Democrat Party!
Neefs' original piece is not in English, but here is an excerpt in English provided by the Brussels Journal:
Liberal Europeans Demand Right to Vote in U.S. Elections
American presidential elections are not “home affairs.” American decisions have repercussions all over the globe. The American mortgage crisis affects banks in Europe. The insatiable American demand for oil makes the Arabian sheiks rich. The American refusal to care for the environment causes the North Pole ice to melt and coastal areas in Asia to flood. A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the global economy.
Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation, against which the Americans rebelled in 1776. But of course the world will not be allowed to vote. The best we can hope for is that the Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind.
The international community was able to limit America’s hegemony somewhat through organisations for international consultation, agreements and the corresponding judicial apparatus. But that system is in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American president.
We are so eeeevil, aren't we? But, what is the chief complaint here? None but the same Bush Derangement Syndrome that Miss Neefs learned from her liked minded compatriots at the New York Times and CNN! (and I repeat...)
But that system is in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American president.
So, a Vladimir Putin who is turning Russia back into the U.S.S.R. -- no problem. The past French president, Jacques Chirac, and his sinister pal ex German Chancellor, Gerhard Schroeder, both of whom used their offices to enrich themselves and their terrorist friends in Iran -- ppffft. Perhaps we have no need to become involved in the next Pakistani election -- nukes in Islamist's hands? Booooring. So, move along, nothing to see here. It's America that is the eeeevil one, we must remember!
But, wait. Maybe this might not be so bad?
Alright. Let's take this insane little thought to its ultimate, logically "democratic" extent. Should she get her way, it would be just good sense that we Americans should reciprocally be allowed to vote for our choice of candidates in Europe, too. After all, fair's fair!
That being the case. We would have a chance to install the death penalty all across Europe. We would strengthen gun rights for every benighted, enslaved European in the EU. We would certainly get rid of all their permissive drug laws and we would also make sure their homosexual population lost all the absurd gains in civil unions and government recognition that they have won over the last 20 years. We would also make sure that every European has a giant SUV to drive down their ancient, crumbling streets.
And we could also ship over enough Mexicans so that their lawn care troubles would be over forever (I got that from one of Jay Leno's striking writers.... and I didn't pay scale, either).
I should also point out that we have far, far more voters in the U.S. than does Brussels or any other single European nation for the most part. So, WE would have the statistical edge to make Europe into a carbon copy of the great and wondrous U.S. of A.!
There. That all sounds pretty fair, eh?
On the other hand, let's just tell them to pound sand. It's easier and by far the more correct decision.



















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WTH???????
January 4, 2008 - 06:56 ET by motherbeltWHERE'S MY DUCT TAPE?????????
Precisely what went through
January 4, 2008 - 12:55 ET by CortillaenPrecisely what went through my head, MB.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
BDS is spreading like the
January 4, 2008 - 07:03 ET by taterBDS is spreading like the bubonic plague.
Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns
Parrot poop
January 4, 2008 - 07:06 ET by American TaxpayerWOW De Standaard works just like the New York Times, my parrot loves to take a good crap on both of them....
There It Is ...
January 4, 2008 - 07:35 ET by thoridfly... Pravda and Pravda-lite.
American presidential
January 4, 2008 - 07:11 ET by motherbeltAmerican presidential elections are not “home affairs.” American decisions have repercussions all over the globe.
Does she think the upcoming elections in Pakistan are important enough to warrant foreigners to vote there? If the US is so important, shouldn't Americans be allowe to vote everywhere?
I suspect she would like the UN in control....
Imagine there's no countries....it's easy if you try......
Motherbelt. Hey great point.
January 4, 2008 - 07:24 ET by Warner Todd HustonMotherbelt. Hey great point. I am going to add Pakistan to the article. Good one and hat tip to you!
I agree... Americans are
January 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET by TruthMongerI agree...
Americans are the ones who should be able to vote in every country - and it would save a hell of alot of the damn Military expense that these weenies always bitch about...
The reason we always have to invade is completely due to the "election" of all of these psychotic "social"-ist dictators...
Europeans Should Be Allowed to Enact the Liberal Agenda
January 4, 2008 - 07:15 ET by thoridflyTHAT'S what that psychotic idiot wants.
Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Because liberal nutjobs like Evita Neefs trowel out their liberal insanities throughout the MSM.
WANT TO VOTE-TOO BAD
January 4, 2008 - 07:29 ET by Der AlteIf Neefs wants to vote in the presidential election then she'll just have to swim the Rio Grande river like the rest of the new democrat voters, otherwise too bad!
Whatever they're smoking
January 4, 2008 - 07:35 ET by Mr. TerryWhatever they're smoking over there in Brussels must be some good stuff. They must have bought it in Amsterdam. Whatever it is it has destroyed this woman's brain cells. Everybody wants all the goodies from America without the responsibility.
Yeah
January 4, 2008 - 10:03 ET by seldumondeIf they want to vote they should have to pay taxes too. Add that to the current tax rates in Europe, and that should be, oh, about 500%.
Euro creeps can talk
January 4, 2008 - 07:43 ET by Jack BauerEuorpeans should be more worried about the way they don't get to vote on things which are imposed on them from ON HIGH, by a ruling elite of nanny state Stalinists.
For instance, the socialist British Prime Minister is ramming thru a so-called "European" constitution* after the Labor party ran at the election on a platform of giving the British people a referendum before renaging to DENY them a vote.
For instance, the EU is a vile, corrupt, totalitarian entity run by bureaucrats who circumvent the democratic process. The sort who made the Nazi National Socialist German state such a model of implacable cruelty.
*Unlike the four page US constitution...
(one of the greatest documents ever committed to paper)
...the "European" constitution (SIC) runs to 1500 pages and is more concerned in shakling people to an all powerful state, than liberating them.
Discrimination
January 4, 2008 - 07:45 ET by well99Hey if illegals can vote why not Europeans.As congress has shown are borders arent important so come one come all.Vote,steal SSN ids.take jobs from Americans it is all good.What a country./sarc off
Bless the politicians who fill their pockets as they empty ours.
ACTUALLY...
January 4, 2008 - 08:11 ET by danybhoyDaStandaard has it exactly wrong, in a perfect world, any nation that must rely on the United States for it's freedom should allow Americans to vote in their elections.
So, lets see, most of Europe, Canada, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, are just some of the many nations that would come under this sort of common sense approach to international sufferage.
If your nations security depends upon Uncle Sam, shut up about our elections.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Great, point, danybhoy!
January 4, 2008 - 08:26 ET by motherbeltWorks for me! You think they'd buy that?? LOL
We had a previous posting:
"WaPo: Pining for an America That does What Foreigners Want Her To Do"
Check it out if you haven't seen it. You'll see that Neef is not the only one who wants to order the US around...
I commented there what some want is for the world to decide what needs to be done, and then for the US to go and do it.
Neef proves the point again. There are a lot of them out there.
Great post Warner! So the
January 4, 2008 - 08:21 ET by rimskyGreat post Warner!
So the world should vote in our elections, eh? Well, I'm sorry, but that is just De nuts!
Let's lay all the cards on the table, shall we?
January 4, 2008 - 08:51 ET by Galvanic"The American mortgage
crisis affects banks in Europe."
Don't blame us. Blame your greedy European banks for tyring to gouge American consumers.
"The insatiable American demand for oil
makes the Arabian sheiks rich."
Most of our oil does not come from the Middle East. If she
wants to influence the country that's making the sheiks rich, she'll
have to vote in the elections of the People's Republic of China.
(Good Luck!)
"The American refusal to care for the
environment causes the North Pole ice to melt and coastal areas in Asia
to flood."
Actually, last year, the increase in US CO2 emissions was less than
the increase in CO2 emissions of the European signers of
Kyoto. In other words, the US did a better job in curbing
CO2 than the Europeans officially committed to Kyoto goals. Maybe
the Europeans should reject Kyoto to improve their effort.
:-) Again, China is now the #1 CO2 producer in the world --- go
vote in their elections.
"A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the
global economy.
Then weaken the Euro.
"Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the
current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation,
against which the Americans rebelled in 1776. But of course the world
will not be allowed to vote. The best we can hope for is that the
Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s
responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind."
In other words, the answer to the failing Euro-nanny states is to
put the burden on the US to run and sustain a nanny-world.
"The international community was able to limit America’s hegemony
somewhat through organisations for international consultation,
agreements and the corresponding judicial apparatus. But that system is
in crisis, partly through the actions of the current American
president."
Substitute the names Germany and Soviet Union for
America in that statement, and you've got the historical realities that
underpinned US-led international policy for almost 40 years.
"Hence, the world should be
January 4, 2008 - 09:21 ET by dvdaughtry"Hence, the world should be given the right to vote. Because the current situation is a blatant case of taxation without representation,against which the Americans rebelled in 1776..."
If the world feels froggy, then they should jump.
The best we can hope for is that the Americans choose a leader who is deeply aware of the U.S.’s responsibility, as a superpower, for the rest of mankind."
Yeah, so do we.
The Nicholson/Cruise dialogue at the end of A Few Good Men comes to mind when reading this kind of stuff:
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Well, for once, the rich white man is in control. --Montgomery Burns
Don't blame us. Blame
January 4, 2008 - 10:26 ET by cleverpigDon't blame us. Blame your greedy European banks for tyring to gouge American consumers.
You misunderstand the nature of the subprime mortgage problem. The only ones who gouged American consumers were American banks. They did so because they knew they could just trade the debt on the world market and would be left holding little liability when those loans defaulted. We can point fingers and say that anyone who took on those debts was an idiot, but the reason the fallout is being felt so widely is that everyone was trading that stuff. The only people they gouged were themselves, and now there is a shortage of credit resources on the world market for people to work with.
American or international, it's all about greed.
January 4, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Galvanic"They did so because they knew they could just trade the debt on the
world market and would be left holding little liability when those
loans defaulted. We can point fingers and say that anyone who took on
those debts was an idiot, . . ."
That's exactly what I'm saying, cleverpig.
". . .but the reason the fallout is being felt so widely is that everyone
was trading that stuff. The only people they gouged were themselves,
and now there is a shortage of credit resources on the world market for
people to work with."
It
was a chain of gouging, if you will. While much blame goes on the
consumers of sub-prime ARMs who never had the resources to take on the
inherent risk, the banks knew that the loan practices being employed
were shaky, and the rest of the financial world went along for the
ride. They assumed the risk, and they lost. It's
reminiscent of the savings & loan debacle, which the US taxpayer
ended up paying for.
In other news, the Belgian
January 4, 2008 - 09:01 ET by Roger the ShrubberIn other news, the Belgian newspaper De Standaard formally endorsed Ron Paul for US President.
I'M PART BELGIAN...
January 4, 2008 - 09:19 ET by danybhoyAs someone who is part Belgian...Flemish, actually, it does'nt matter what they say. Belgium does'nt matter. On a serious note, if you look at the issue of language in America & those who don't care if people learn to speak English, & they don't understand how it splintering the population by language destroys a nation, look at Belgium. They are imploding within over languge differences. Other then that, Belgium should be ingnored or shunned in general.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
}}---> danybhoy
January 4, 2008 - 09:25 ET by Cool ArrowDid the Belgians waffle on the national language issue?
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WAFFLES...
January 4, 2008 - 09:29 ET by danybhoyLOL-Very funny Cool Arrow. There is a French speaking part & a Flemmish speaking part. I don't really think they are waffling, that would imply they change their minds about it. They seem to have hardliners who won't budge on their language from what I have seen.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
}}---> Apologies dany
January 4, 2008 - 09:34 ET by Cool ArrowI hoped the irresistable opportunity overcoming me wouldn't offend.
You owe me a "kraut" joke.
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at least
January 4, 2008 - 11:50 ET by wizardjrat least you're not a sour kraut...
NO SWEAT...
January 4, 2008 - 21:42 ET by danybhoyCool Arrow,
No offence taken, I found it very funny. BTW, I'm a bit German as well, not to mention Irish, Russian, & French. If I were a dog(some think I am)you could'nt tell what the hell I am. I am a mutt, but I'm an American mutt.
BTW, wizardjr, sometimes I am a sour kraut, but I don't actually LIKE sour kraut, so think what you will.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
.. not sure I'd advertise
January 4, 2008 - 22:13 ET by Warner Todd Huston.. not sure I'd advertise that French part, much!
LOL
I CAN'T CHANGE WHAT I AM...
January 4, 2008 - 22:29 ET by danybhoyThe French are strange, they supported us during the Revolutionary War vs Britain, more because they hated the Brits more then they like us, & of course the French(most of Europe as well) get sick of hearing us tell them we saved their @$$ in 2 world wars. I'm not ashamed of being part French, & I like French Toast, French Bread, & French Fries. But I will trash them when need be, like the corrupt Chirac who was just replaced by Sarkozy, who I like so far.
You take the good with the bad, I guess.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Unfortunately, I also had
January 4, 2008 - 22:33 ET by Warner Todd HustonUnfortunately, I also had one French relative. About 1885 and he is the Father of my Father's, Father's Mother. (Say that three times fast)
Funneeee.. they certainly
January 4, 2008 - 09:23 ET by Jack BauerFunneeee.. they certainly have their finger on the pulse of what's really going on in America.
I wonder who its sister paper De Sarcasmo endorsed?
}}---> No Jack
January 4, 2008 - 09:27 ET by Cool ArrowBut you'll notice the initials of: Brussels De Standaard".
Coincidence?
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Oh, the news is far-worse...
January 4, 2008 - 09:33 ET by sarcasmoThan some tiny Belgian paper. An Estonian buddy of mine even requested Ron Paul stickers, as has a US Panamanian expat. It's worldwide -- just like all the excitement for Fred & Huck & Duncan Hunter & Rudy!! (Ok, maybe I'm just a bit sarcastic today...At least Huckabee has some meetups!)
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (All purpose anti-slander-link, sadly-needed these days...)
}}---> comes 'round, sarc
January 4, 2008 - 09:41 ET by Cool ArrowI have to admit it's hilarious how easily this party (and this blog) are fractured when people don't get the outcome they wanted.
I've dropped endorsing anybody at this point because I did learn some things about Huckabee I've either not investigated thoroughly or find outright disturbing.
But what's funny is some members' willingness to support Barack Obama just because (fill in the blank) didn't win?
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I think Obama
January 4, 2008 - 09:51 ET by sarcasmoIs or would be a very tough opponent, especially if the Democrats unify behind him early. And this result is no surprise given the reaction to Hillary from local partisan-Dems I know personally.
But this is all fun and exciting still, to me. I think the interesting thing is that apparently there's more of a Nader-bounce than a Kucinich bounce among the Democrats. This despite the fact that Nader wasn't running this year, and if anything he cost Bore Florida according to most Democrats. (They dislike Ralph just as much as most Republicans dislike Ross Perot and for the same reason!) Or maybe I'm recalling my Democrats wrong? It was Nader likes Obama & Kucinich likes Edwards, right?
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (All purpose anti-slander-link, sadly-needed these days...)
You first.
January 4, 2008 - 09:33 ET by Dave in TexasPerhaps Belgium can lead by example and allow all Chinese citizens to vote in their elections.
is this from the european
January 4, 2008 - 09:35 ET by Free Thinkeris this from the european equivalant of The Onion? And the Belgian waffle comment below is hilarious by the way.
They screwed up the total
January 4, 2008 - 11:11 ET by Right2thePointThey screwed up the total of Europe and now have the EU in place so it's on to their next conquest.
Of course they will totally ignore just how bad they have just screwed themselves until it becomes unavoidable.
Enjoy your yooths or indeterminate origin and bring marshmellows to your local neighborhood carbqq.
OK then, let's be
January 4, 2008 - 11:15 ET by mattmOK then, let's be isolationists for a few years (after conquering or annexing Canada and Mexico and expelling all the Libs). Then, when the Sino-Islamo-Commu-fascists march into Brussels and the Sociocrats cry to the U.S. for help, we'll say, "eh?"
international p3nis envy
January 4, 2008 - 11:59 ET by wizardjrSeveral of the comments above have the bits and pieces of it. The Europeons are slaves to the socialist states they created. These states, and the EU superstate are incompetent competitors in the open world market due to all the regular evils of over taxation, over regulation, really poor labor law, etc. The EU was specifically formed to 'compete' against the US in trade and politics and it has fallen on it face (oh what a surprise). Doing something stupidly doesn't get better by doing it larger.
Now their answer is to grab control of us and kill our economy and political power to make themselves seem more potent and competent because they are following the 'right path', instead of cleaning up their act (heaven forbid). Can you say Kyoto?
careful what you ask for
January 4, 2008 - 13:26 ET by oregon_jiimYou might just get it. "A weakened dollar and an immense budget deficit affect the global economy."
As I recall, when they first created the Euro and EU it was to compete with the US economy.
They should have taken economics 101 first. A strong dollar gives us more purchasing power while a weak dollar allows us to export more.
I know the mere thought of buying US goods and services makes some Euros' skin crawl, but if they don't buy our stuff, the fact that the Euro is stronger than the dollar is irrelevant.
And somewhere there are liberal Americans...
January 4, 2008 - 14:04 ET by ReaganJrAnd somewhere, I would imagine, there are liberal Americans who are actually trying to make this happen. Perhaps the ACLU.
I think if that is the case, then Conservative Americans should be allowed to vote in Brussels.