Here is the kind of lapse in logic that drives me crazy (no pun intended). The AP today has a story headline that just makes me cringe: "SUV plunges into canal, killing 7 people inside." Now here is the problem, HOW did an SUV go about killing these poor people? Did it unpark itself, drive across town, slam open its doors and gobble up some folks waiting at a bus stop and then drive them into a canal? Should we be wary of every SUV on the street for fear that it may kidnap us only to drive us off cliffs or into canals? Or is it more likely, AP, that a driver was responsible for killing the passengers INSIDE the SUV? Isn't it a tad more likely that the SUV did not kill anyone, but that the actions of the human at its wheel was the culprit?
Here is the entire AP report as it appears on MSNBC:
SUV plunges into canal, killing 7 people inside
Four children, baby among dead in Central California; 2 passengers survive
KETTLEMAN CITY, Calif. - A sport utility vehicle ran off a Central California road and landed upside down in a canal, killing seven people inside, including four children and a baby, authorities said Sunday.
The SUV was going more than 55 mph Saturday night near Kettleman City, about 50 miles south of Fresno, when the driver, Sergia Olvera, 31, lost control, said Officer Joseph Miller of the California Highway Patrol.
The vehicle ran up a dirt embankment, rolled and landed upside down in the canal with 5 feet of water, Miller said.
"There were no child seats in the vehicle, and there was no evidence that any seat belts were used," Miller said.
Survivor Dalia Olvera, 23, had moderate injuries, and 10-year-old Esmerelda Pompa was not injured, Miller said.
All of the victims were from Earlimart, about 50 miles from the site of the accident.
One wonders if the AP has a good hate on against SUVs with this sort of silly headline? But, whatever the case, it is an illogical way to write a story. However, it fits with their other often employed phraseology when talking about "gun violence," doesn't it? Where it seems that guns themselves are to blame for the killing instead of the hands holding it?
Anyway, it is just another example of the lapse in logic so often seen among the denizens of the MSM.
But, one thing I have to say. I will look askance at every SUV I pass from now on. I'd hate to be driven into a canal to my death!
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always the same avoidance of blame...
November 19, 2007 - 13:10 ET by wizardjrFor decades now I've watched the Baby Boomers avoid personal responsibility for anything. Their war cry is "Don't be judgemental." So, they blame every sort of inanimate object or natural event. The classic battle of the last 40 years: guns. Lately it's SUV's. Never, ever, blame the human who committed an act of crime or stupidity, because then we'd be at their famous 'root cause' mantra, but approached intelligently. The very concept of responsibility is anathema to these infantile, self centered, idiots. /rant off/
Wasn't it Bush's fault?
November 19, 2007 - 13:15 ET by ThisnThatThe SUV was probably a reckless Republican SUV and because of the disasterous Bush tax cuts, didn't have enough money to purchase a good set of brakes -- which is why it ran up that embamkment. It also couldn't afford health care, which caused it to roll on its side, and as everyone knows, once an SUV rolls on its side, it always lands upside down in 5 feet of water.
So this all makes sense to me. Did I tell you, by the way, that I have BDS, and that I am writing this in amazement -- just watching my fingers go across the keyboard completely out of my control? Wierd feeling, absolutely wierd. But, at least I'm blameless.
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When SUVs are outlawed,
November 19, 2007 - 13:26 ET by Ruths husband BenWhen SUVs are outlawed, only outlaws will drive SUVs.
SUVs dont kill people...
November 19, 2007 - 13:54 ET by sunandsteeldirty smelly hippies kill people.
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If you believe in SUV
November 19, 2007 - 14:32 ET by Ruths husband BenIf you believe in SUV control, drive with both hands on the wheel.
For the children, think of the children.
November 19, 2007 - 16:42 ET by sunandsteelIf you see an SUV, Stop, Don't touch, Leave the area, Tell an adult.
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99.9% of all SUVs have
November 19, 2007 - 16:57 ET by Ruths husband Ben99.9% of all SUVs have killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.
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If you drive an SUV...
November 19, 2007 - 17:37 ET by sunandsteelHitler wins.
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Lack of concern about how
November 19, 2007 - 13:34 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltLack of concern about how they write is the culprit. The rules of grammar are strangers to most "writers" these days. Sure, a novelist can take artistic liberties with the rules, but for sake of clarity, a journalist should follow the rules.
Such as: who, what, when, and where, all within the first paragraph. I'm constantly amazed at how so-called journalists write a simple fact-based account of a small news event as if they were auditioning for a writing job in Hollywood.
SUV's with OnStar
November 19, 2007 - 13:37 ET by NortonPeteWatch out for SUV's with OnStar they can communicate and plot.
Who do you think is locking all those kids in the car?
AP Scorecard
November 19, 2007 - 13:51 ET by In ExcessThe AP would mention the driver being at fault if he was a registered Republican.
Warner, do you honestly
November 19, 2007 - 14:05 ET by MikeBWarner, do you honestly believe that a "journalist" with an agenda will write a story with no spin or bias? Certainly that is their job, but come on!
SUVs are evil. End of story. You must admire, though, the difficult choice this SUV had to make, i.e., whether to continue the assault on the globe by continuing to emit copious amounts of green house gasses, or to display its inherent anti-Hispanic racism. It chose to exercise its racism at the cost of its own demise. The SUV chose not to have child restraint seats, and it killed "four children and a baby" (I always thought babies were children) so it was against children. I'll be willing to bet that this particular SUV listened to Rush Limbaugh when its owners weren't around. Where else could it learn to hate enough to kill that many people at the cost of its own life? C'mon, Warner, you need to get a grip on (the alternative) reality (of the liberal universe).
The cartoon Pinky and the Brain is actually an allegory for SUVs. When they are garaged at night, they talk to each other and plan to take over the world. And, if they can't take over the world, they'll either destroy the planet, or kill the humans.
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are babies children?
November 19, 2007 - 14:58 ET by lbcdawnI know....
November 19, 2007 - 14:50 ET by SeptemberIt's annoying. One of those sloppy grammatical habits the newspapers have always employed even before SUV-bashing was the liberal rage. It's done for the sake of brevity, I assume. I think most readers get it. The article does say the driver lost control later on although I wouldn't be surprised if that old complaint about SUV's being unstable (off-balance) comes up again. This accident occurred in a neighboring county and I'm not sure if the car had had car seats that would've helped. A vehicle landing upside down in water....well, it's just terrible.
not sure but..
November 19, 2007 - 15:02 ET by lbcdawnPretty soon on ESPN you
November 19, 2007 - 15:07 ET by Dan The Man 2Pretty soon on ESPN you will see a video in "When SUV's Attack" like those stupid animals ones. Of course everyone knows as long as SUV's are fed and maintained they are docil, but neglect brings out their feral insticts.
Be afraid ... be very afraid.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
SUV's should be taxed
November 19, 2007 - 15:59 ET by professor truthout of existence. I suggest a tax of between 50 to 100% of it's value for any new SUV's. Our decade of gluttony needs to end. There should also be a registration fee supplement of 300% of the normal registration. Owners of these nightmares need to pay for their cost to society.
That's funny. But I think
November 19, 2007 - 16:36 ET by Hero SquadThat's funny. But I think you forgot to first hit the "sarcasm on" switch.
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You wouldn't be the same
November 19, 2007 - 16:43 ET by MightyMouthYou wouldn't be the same guy who was here about a month or so ago with these same flaming posts? Hehe, That guy got banned but not until he was made the fool by some of the posters here.
This ought to be interesting.
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SUV's are a net negative on society
November 19, 2007 - 19:43 ET by professor truthso we should ban them or tax them mercilessly. They have created far more problems in society than they've solved, that's why they should get taxed heavily.
professor...shame, shame
November 19, 2007 - 19:46 ET by LionKingNow you are attacking families that want safe vehicles to protect their children. Soccer moms will never allow SUVs to be taxed unmercilessly.
[btw...I know as a liberal you do not value human life so it is no wonder that the safety that SUVs offer was not considered in your analysis.]
Yall smell that?
November 19, 2007 - 20:00 ET by sunandsteelSmells like bong water and poor hygeine. Oh, the "professor" is here. Hey prof, where's Gilligan?
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I used to drive an SUV, and
November 19, 2007 - 20:03 ET by JasonCI used to drive an SUV, and I will submit that I feel far safer in my new mid-size sedan. I'll bet 9/10 SUV owners have no practical need for them.
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I'll bet 9/10 SUV owners
November 19, 2007 - 21:28 ET by MightyMouthI'll bet 9/10 SUV owners have no practical need for them.
Cept they can see right over your sedan in bumper to bumper traffic!
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MIghty
November 19, 2007 - 21:39 ET by BlondeI still miss my SUV...and I had one of the original big old honker luxury SUVs....a Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
As for practical needs....yeah, I had one or two...a 23' boat to haul around. And a hundred pound dog. (Now that I've switched to a 2 seat convertible, things like taking the dog to the vet or going to the garden store are terribly inconvenient, but the bird makes up for it because it's so cute).
If I ever buy a second vehicle, it'll be another "killer" SUV. (BTW, my mom used to say I drove that vehicle like a weapon...LOL). The utility part is the key.
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Hi Blonde, My brother has
November 19, 2007 - 21:45 ET by MightyMouthHi Blonde,
My brother has one of those old Suburbans. I don't know how old it is but it's so old It doesn't have enough seatbelts for everyone. I think it may be longer than your boat! But heck, it's paid for and he has the bumper sticker to prove it! :-)
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Back atcha Mighty
November 19, 2007 - 21:55 ET by BlondeA Suburban is a Chevy. Back in the day, those were the only two (non pick-up) choices for a heavy duty tow vehicle (6,000 lbs). The Suburban is even bigger than the Grand Wagoneer was, but the Wagoneer was the first "luxury" SUV. It was a great vehicle.
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I miss my SUV when I move
November 19, 2007 - 22:20 ET by JasonCI miss my SUV when I have to move (which I've done 6 times in the last 7 years). I don't miss feeling like I'm going to tip over if I do more than 60 mph on the interstate. Or the glares I got in the supermarket parking lot.
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Tippy SUVs
November 19, 2007 - 22:27 ET by BlondeWasn't that the Ford Explorer?
My Grand Wagoneer never felt tippy. But that bad boy could accelerate 6,500 pounds of loaded boat hooked up. And never left us desperate at the boat ramp.
I like having horses under the hood. Last 2 cars have been 2 seater convertibles, V-8s. I miss the convenience factor of a SUV, though.
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Yep, it was a 93. Except
November 19, 2007 - 22:39 ET by JasonCYep, it was a 93. Except for cargo space and driving in snow, I hated it.
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not an SUV fan myself
November 19, 2007 - 22:29 ET by MrShyWhile I'm no big eco-guy and generally a closet Conservative about a lot of things -- and I believe we are fully entitled to indulge ourselves -- I actually think SUV's ARE big, wasteful, space-consuming hunks of excess. Unless you really have a big family and a house in the woods, and/or you go skiing or engage in outdoor/travelling activities a lot, they're really stupid to see on the everyday roads with the normal cars, being used to take 1 or 2 ppl between points A and B.
Oh and, btw, did you see the article I found about the 4-door sedan!?!? :p (scroll down to the bottom)
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Agreed. Justifying it in
November 19, 2007 - 22:32 ET by JasonCAgreed. Justifying it in terms of "because I can" is a trifle childish.
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Childish
November 19, 2007 - 22:37 ET by LionKingKind of like Kerry, Gore and Arnold?
What are you talking
November 19, 2007 - 22:39 ET by JasonCWhat are you talking about?
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3 SUV owners
November 19, 2007 - 22:42 ET by LionKing3 SUV owners of some political notoriety
I haven't heard their
November 19, 2007 - 22:46 ET by JasonCI haven't heard their specific justifications for owning them, but yeah, I can't imagine they have any practical use for them.
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and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
You can't, Jason?
November 19, 2007 - 22:55 ET by BlondeBut earlier you postulated that 9/10ths of the population didn't have a "practical" reason for owning a SUV.
So, do you care to share your liberal math with us? Guessing not.
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"Can't" imagine.
November 19, 2007 - 23:01 ET by balboa"Can't" imagine.
Geez, Bal
November 19, 2007 - 23:15 ET by BlondeYour sarcasm metre is stuck on stupid.
Nice try, tho. Why don't you try to grow up before you post with the grown ups?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I wasn't being sarcastic.
November 19, 2007 - 23:39 ET by JasonCI wasn't being sarcastic. Since when do I act like I think Gore, Kerry, and Predator are so great anyway? Was that like LK's trump card that was so supposed to make me repent for mocking people who think it's cool to tool around their suburban enclaves in SUVs?
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oh snap Jason
November 19, 2007 - 22:48 ET by MrShyJC... LK got you on that one.
"MY end justifies THAT mean." - Shakespeare (not really)
Got me how? Someone will
November 19, 2007 - 22:50 ET by JasonCGot me how? Someone will have to explain this one. I'm not even a Democrat. And Arnold hasn't done anything worthwhile since T2.
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
JasonC
November 19, 2007 - 22:57 ET by MrShyI was just being silly.
"MY end justifies THAT mean." - Shakespeare (not really)
jason
November 19, 2007 - 23:02 ET by LionKingYou said:
Agreed. Justifying it in terms of "because I can" is a trifle childish.
As a retort, I mentioned 3 notable politicians that have or still use SUVs recently, yet claim to be GREEN. They can claim to be one thing and get away with not being green. CHILDISH and hypocritical.
OK. "He was, and is yet,
November 19, 2007 - 23:09 ET by JasonCOK.
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Hey Shy
November 19, 2007 - 22:35 ET by BlondeMy philosophy on one's ride is this (a new commercial lately....don't remember which automaker it is, but it sums it up neatly).....
"When you turn your vehicle on, does it return the favor?"
So yeah, I enjoy all of the compliments and comments I get about my ride. Whether it's the car or the horse.
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Hola Polish Blonde :p
November 19, 2007 - 22:39 ET by MrShyYeah, and I was going to add, above, when you mentioned "horse"-power, that you don't need no fuel-injected horses anymore, since you have nature- (or grass-) injected ones now (you do, right?)
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Oh yeah, Shy
November 19, 2007 - 22:44 ET by BlondeClick my profile....I have both kinds of horsepower.
I suspect the maintenance of the "wheels" on the organic one is actually more expensive on an annual basis than Michelins. But Rolex is no Humvee....more like a Ferrari. Sweet.
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"Or the glares I got in the
November 19, 2007 - 22:29 ET by MightyMouth"Or the glares I got in the supermarket parking lot"
You might want to consider shopping in better neighborhoods. Just a suggestion.
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Have you ever tried to fit
November 19, 2007 - 21:42 ET by sunandsteelHave you ever tried to fit a 4x12 speaker cabinet, an amplifier, effects, and 3 guitars in a Kia Rio. Darn near impossible. Takes some serious planning, definitely not for a novice.
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Ha! my 28 year old son did
November 19, 2007 - 21:51 ET by MightyMouthHa! my 28 year old son did the same thing. I went out to move his car one day and he had that damn thing turned up full blast... he almost became fatherless that day and I almost became son..less. :-)
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Ive had a few bad
November 19, 2007 - 21:57 ET by sunandsteelIve had a few bad experiences with loud systems. Would have one right now except my radio died :-( I have to warn my wife to turn the radio down after I drive her car, lol.
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In bumper to bumper
November 19, 2007 - 22:02 ET by JasonCIn bumper to bumper traffic? What is there to see? More cars?
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
alternate routes
November 19, 2007 - 22:04 ET by LionKingYou can see alternate routes or an accident waiting to happen.
Wow, I'm sold. People can
November 19, 2007 - 22:07 ET by JasonCWow, I'm sold.
People can buy whatever kind of car they want. I'm retaining the right to laugh at those who buy SUVs to drive the kids to and from soccer practice, especially those who don't see the contradiction in putting a Support the Troops sticker on their gas-guzzler.
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Wish I could buy a Hummer
November 19, 2007 - 22:11 ET by BlondeJust to annoy smugly self-satisfied liberals like you.
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Humvee owners cause me to
November 19, 2007 - 22:16 ET by JasonCHumvee owners cause me to laugh, not get annoyed. What possible reason could one have for buying one of those things?
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Because it is America and
November 19, 2007 - 22:18 ET by sunandsteelBecause it is America and you can.
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Ah, the NRA-approved
November 19, 2007 - 22:23 ET by JasonCAh, the NRA-approved explanation.
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I would drive a tank around
November 19, 2007 - 22:26 ET by sunandsteelI would drive a tank around if I could. Working guns and all. I could park any damn where I wanted to.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
sas... Now that sounds
November 19, 2007 - 22:29 ET by Clear thinkersas...
Now that sounds like fun. Just imagine the fun you could have with a tank after somone in a Prius flips you off!
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I know, especially if its
November 19, 2007 - 22:36 ET by sunandsteelI know, especially if its some bagadouche with a Kucinich '08 sticker on it.
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Jason... The only reason
November 19, 2007 - 22:18 ET by Clear thinkerJason...
The only reason why more people don't own Hummers is price.
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Ugh. Ugly hunk of junk.
November 19, 2007 - 22:19 ET by balboaUgh. Ugly hunk of junk.
Very ugly.
November 19, 2007 - 22:27 ET by Free StinkerVery ugly.
That Prius though, what a
November 19, 2007 - 22:48 ET by sunandsteelThat Prius though, what a fine hunk of machine, lol.
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
Prius ain't pretty,
November 19, 2007 - 22:57 ET by balboaPrius ain't pretty, either.
Hummer to me means someone overcompensating, trying to prove how macho they are.
Prius can be someone earnest, but can also be someone who thinks they're better than everyone else.
Hummers
November 19, 2007 - 22:20 ET by BlondeReason?
Conspicuous Consumption at its very finest. That and to scare the crap out of the Prius drivers on the off ramp.
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Or to run over one of the
November 20, 2007 - 02:13 ET by MikeBOr to run over one of the smug emitting tin cans if they stop at the end of the on ramp.
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Thank you Komrad Jason, all
November 19, 2007 - 22:14 ET by MightyMouthThank you Komrad Jason, all us dumb hicks need you smart people to tell us what kind of kars to drive. What's next? tell us how big a house we kan live in? Have a nice hammer and Sickle day!
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Living in the USA allows a
November 19, 2007 - 22:14 ET by Clear thinkerLiving in the USA allows a person the freedom (remember that word "freedom") to drive whatever you darn well please as long as the vehicle is road worthy and has all the proper DOT approved junk in it.
Me, I like Hot-Rods. The faster I can burn a gallon of gas, the better!
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Jason...laugh away
November 19, 2007 - 22:16 ET by LionKingIf you ever get into auto accident (God forbid), which would you rather be in...an SUV or some subcompact?
At least you acknowledge that the choice of vehicle should be a personal choice.
the only reason to buy an SUV
November 19, 2007 - 22:18 ET by balboathe only reason to buy an SUV: To survive an accident with another one.
Balboa, ever heard of a
November 19, 2007 - 22:22 ET by MightyMouthBalboa, ever heard of a "Soccer Mom"? Try getting a soccer team in a subcompact. The kids look like they are getting out of a clown car.
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Well, at least you support
November 19, 2007 - 22:28 ET by JasonCWell, at least you support carpooling. Though I didn't realize people actually did it for soccer. I thought that idea just sort of metastasized into cultural consciousness during the 96 election. Ah, it does take a village.
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and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I don't think many soccer
November 19, 2007 - 22:51 ET by balboaI don't think many soccer moms actually cart around the whole team. And as long as their safe, there's nothing wrong with putting kids in a subcompact.
definiton please
November 19, 2007 - 22:55 ET by LionKingPlease define a safe subcompact.
[Reality based definition please!]
And as long as their safe,
November 19, 2007 - 23:08 ET by MightyMouthAnd as long as their safe, there's nothing wrong with putting kids in a subcompact.
Excpet for the fact that there are all those damn SUV's on the road. I rather be the lion than the lamb anyday.
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Therein lies the difference
November 19, 2007 - 22:08 ET by MightyMouthTherein lies the difference between a conservative and a liberal. The liberal is stuck behind the conservative and does nothing but bitch about the traffic. The conservative in clear view of the road sees the path ahead and bitches about the liberal riding his ass!!
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Get back to me when the SUV
November 19, 2007 - 22:11 ET by JasonCGet back to me when the SUV has the capability to get past the traffic jam, or better yet, just beam itself to the appropriate exit. Then we'll talk.
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pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Have you noticed that no
November 19, 2007 - 22:13 ET by Free StinkerHave you noticed that no one here is insisting that *you* buy & drive an SUV?
They just do not want someone telling them that they can not buy & drive one.
Am I telling you that you
November 19, 2007 - 22:17 ET by JasonCAm I telling you that you shouldn't?
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
Apparantly Komrad Jason has
November 19, 2007 - 22:16 ET by MightyMouthApparantly Komrad Jason has never heard of High profile and 4 wheel drive!
Shack!!!!!!!!!!
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lion king
November 19, 2007 - 21:08 ET by professor truththese SUV's cause increased deaths to others and are a road hazard. Try tuning left with an SUV parked at the corner. Try driving up narrow roads with these monsters. Also, they have contributed to increased gas demand because of their inefficiency which has caused gas prices to increase for all, as well as increasing our energy insecuriiity. Even my ultraconservative mother in law agrees with me(about the only issue we agree on)