Speaking of a here-we-go-again story, the AP this morning has revived the Jeri Thompson as trophy wife story again. This is an extremely demeaning charge leveled at the wife of Fred Thompson that keeps resurfacing, over and over, in the liberal press. The thrust of the story is that she is a brainless hottie that Thompson only grabbed up because she is great arm candy. But Jeri Thompson is an accomplished and driven individual in her own right and for the MSM to continually claim she is nothing but a "trophy wife" slights her own achievements.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Jeri Thompson, wife of GOP presidential candidate Fred Thompson, shakes off the ``trophy wife'' label critics have tagged her with for being 24 years younger than her husband.
Fred Thompson, for his part, has a great comeback for the constant demeaning of his beautiful wife. "Thompson said: 'I almost think they had to fabricate that trophy-wife stuff because there's nothing interesting to say.'''
Jeri Thompson is no bubble-headed bimbo, though. She was a successful media consultant for the Washington DC law firm of Verner Lipfert and also worked for the Republican Senate Conference and the Republican National Committee before marrying Fred Thompson and stepping back from her career to concentrate on raising a family.
And it won't be completely unusual to have a president with a much younger wife, either. Columnist Gary North reminds us that Frances Folsom Cleveland was 27 years younger than President Grover Cleveland, and that Julia Gardiner Tyler was 30 years younger than President John Tyler.
Still, we will see this charge brought up over and over again by the MSM as the presidential contest is waged.
Now here is the question: Michelle Obama is quite an attractive woman. Do you think folks will call her a "trophy wife?" What about Dennis Kucinich's wife, Elizabeth? She is decades younger than the Buckeye nut from Cleveland! Is she a "trophy wife?" If so, I've never seen the MSM refer to her as such. In fact, Elizabeth is far younger than her husband than is Jeri from Fred! Elizabeth Kucinich is 30 years her husband's junior while Jeri is only 24 years Fred's junior.
Or does the MSM imagine that Democrats don't "do" trophy wives? you think folks will call her a trophy wife?
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October 4, 2007 - 05:23 ET by Cool ArrowSo, she's older than Jackie O'Kennedy.
Fred's retort should have been "We love and trust each other. If that is somehow objectionable, other candidates are available"
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I like that one Cool Arrow,
October 4, 2007 - 05:56 ET by USA4freedomI like that one Cool Arrow, I hope he will use it.
If so make sure you claim cred.
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who would you rather have in the white house?
October 4, 2007 - 16:52 ET by CapitalismRulesJeri or Hillary.......no brainer there as far as I'm concerned.
The left is disgusting.
October 4, 2007 - 05:37 ET by Blogger Guy00001I am continually surprised by the new depths to which the left willingly sinks. Truly the left has no shame.
The left genuinely is evil in its willingness to destroy peoples' lives for their evil cause.
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October 4, 2007 - 05:48 ET by Cool ArrowYou know, there is nothing that says a beautiful woman has to fall into the "trophy" category. Nor is it written she must be conniving, or airheaded.
I don't remember the right accusing Theresa Heinz Kerry of being a trophy wife. OK, maybe we did. But it was just because John made it a point to marry into yet another fortune.
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Actually, Johnnie boy was
October 4, 2007 - 05:53 ET by Warner Todd HustonActually, Johnnie boy was the trophy hubby! Theresa didn't need HIM. She was already far richer than he.
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October 4, 2007 - 06:05 ET by Cool ArrowI'm thinking her aspirations were a little more covert and his, overt. She must have truly hated her first husband. She's a living insult to him.
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Well, maybe not...she kept
October 4, 2007 - 07:34 ET by motherbeltWell, maybe not...she kept his name. Then again, maybe she just wants to make sure she's connected to the Heinz fortune.
Actually, Johnnie boy was
October 4, 2007 - 07:42 ET by motherbeltActually, Johnnie boy was the trophy hubby! WTH
He's a male bimbo! He's a Mimbo! -Elaine Benes of "Seinfeld"
So is Billy the trophy
October 4, 2007 - 11:08 ET by Senior ChiefSo is Billy the trophy husband of Hillary or Hillary the trophy wife of Billy boy? I think we need to ask Monica...Yikes.
Trophy?
October 4, 2007 - 11:11 ET by Sergeant ROCKThey don't give trophies for last place.
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October 4, 2007 - 07:40 ET by motherbeltIt is always the oh-so-sensitive "don't judge people by their color or ethnicity or looks" liberals that always mention people's color, ethnicity, or looks).
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October 4, 2007 - 07:50 ET by Cool ArrowSeems Libs are uptight because their candidate can't quite see her husband with much sense of pride.
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I'll give an honest report "from ground level" on Jeri Thompson.
October 4, 2007 - 06:28 ET by sarcasmoLooks are irrelevant, she's smart as hell at running Fred's campaign. For example, the Fred campaign has paid (probably a pretty penny...) to have exclusive exhibiting rights at all major Florida gunshows.
I'm extremely-curious about just-how-much this was worth to them, but that number has been hard to come-by and the news media doesn't have any curiousity at all about the self-defense rights community. I'm not at all curious about why she didn't particularly want other candidates around, though. :) Say what you want about Jeri's good looks, but don't let her looks fool you for an instant. She's NOT anything like dumb.
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Repeat, repeat, repeat
October 4, 2007 - 06:52 ET by PawpawNIt's the typical Lib playbook...REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT, etc., and sooner or later everyone will believe what they say!!
Feminists AWOL on Jeri Thompson
October 4, 2007 - 06:58 ET by nkviking75As usual, the feminists are absent when sexism works to further their extremist liberal agenda. Of course, the Clinton years proved that beyond any doubt years ago. The media would never do this to a Democrat's wife.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
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October 4, 2007 - 07:01 ET by Cool ArrowThey're just waiting for marching orders from their men.
Gloria Steinem proved that when she defended Bill Clinton's groping of Kathleen Willey. Other feminists refused to comment.
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Was she the one that called
October 4, 2007 - 07:36 ET by motherbeltWas she the one that called his episode with Paula Jones "crude courtship" and created the "one free grope" rule?
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October 4, 2007 - 07:38 ET by Cool ArrowOne and the same. Don't remember any of the "I Am Woman" crowd saying she was wrong either, do you?
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No, they didn't. It was
October 4, 2007 - 13:38 ET by motherbeltNo, they didn't. It was amazing how they all came to his aid. And it was disgusting how those in the media never challenged them on their contradictory stances.
I guess you have to understand, Paula Jones "not their kind."
Democrats only do
October 4, 2007 - 07:12 ET by 10ksnookerDemocrats only do trophy husbands, who served in Vietnam I am told, that no one cares about. Gigolos don't make much news.
You already know the answer, it's to damage Fred, what the Democrats and the media do best, personal destruction
If you think this is bad, wiat till the Hillary Matters Stalinists get hold of the presedency.
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Will anyone claim that
October 4, 2007 - 08:19 ET by jacquejetWill anyone claim that Hillary Clinton is a trophy wife.
October 4, 2007 - 09:19 ET
October 4, 2007 - 08:33 ET by sunandsteelIf Hillary is the trophy, then how horrible was that contest?
Texas has a population of nearly 21 million people, all of whom are ashamed to be from the same state as the Dixie Chicks. (IMAO.us)
She is the kind of
October 4, 2007 - 08:41 ET by Dan The Man 2She is the kind of trophy to hang on the wall and count the antlers. Of course I would ask the taxidermist to dress it up a bit so I wouldn't scare my kids and wife much less the nieghbors.
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Age Difference
October 4, 2007 - 08:46 ET by davy42055I only have one question...what was the age difference between clintion and the blue dress woman?...HUUUUUUM
Well folks, the drive by
October 4, 2007 - 09:04 ET by jdhawkWell folks, the drive by media bring up a good question.
What would you rather have - Fred Thompson's babe for a First Lady or that skank "thunder thighs" Billary as president?
How about being subjected to this for four or even eight years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTB62AaH-4
I watched the interview
October 4, 2007 - 09:10 ET by Clear thinkerI watched the interview with Fred and his wife on Hannity & colmes last night and came away with even more respect for Fred and Jerri.
What the left is doing is expected and should not surprise anyone.
The phony dems have their own 10 commandments...
#8. If you have no ideas to impress the voters with (they call them "suckers" behind closed doors) attack the oppositions spouse!
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How sexist - no mention of the trophy husband?
October 4, 2007 - 09:21 ET by Dee BunkWhat about Billy boy? Now that's a true trophy.
You mean Carters redneck
October 4, 2007 - 09:25 ET by Clear thinkerYou mean Carters redneck brother?
Or the other redneck from Arkansas?
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The other dumb hick from Arkansas
October 4, 2007 - 09:45 ET by Dee BunkThat's perfect Clear. Can you imagine if she was from the south? They'd be even worse on her.
The Daily Show or The
October 4, 2007 - 09:23 ET by balboaThe Daily Show or The Colbert Report always makes mention of how odd it is for Kucinich to have a much more attractive wife, but she's nothing compared to Fred's.
Balboa - It's not the same thing as coming from the AP
October 4, 2007 - 09:52 ET by Dee BunkIt's sad that one of them is less biased then the actual news
I don't think that the AP
October 4, 2007 - 10:12 ET by balboaI don't think that the AP doing this story is an attack on Fred's wife. People think she's a trophy wife, so they do a story about her.
Who?
October 4, 2007 - 10:15 ET by Sergeant ROCKWho are these 'people'?
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You want names and
October 4, 2007 - 10:24 ET by balboaYou want names and addresses?
Balboa - yes I do
October 4, 2007 - 10:28 ET by Dee BunkShouldn't they name people? If it's really about reporting it then shouldn't the tone be how incorrect these people are with facts about her education and career and examples like Kucinich etc...?
The problem...
October 4, 2007 - 10:35 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. no such 'people' really exist. What's behind stories like this is the desire to slander their political enemies, not what the consumer wants. It's a smoke screen.
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Agreed Sergeant Rock and thanks for the "Indoctrinate-U" link
October 4, 2007 - 10:48 ET by Dee BunkI hope people go out and support this. We need to support documentaries that aren't liberal propaganda so that more will get made. It's important to see it within the first two weeks that it comes to a theater near you. What happens in the first two weeks drives many of the stats and also what theaters it will open in. Also the biggest % goes to the people responsible for the film in that time. After two weeks more goes to the theaters.
I subscribed to the RSS feed so I can know exactly when it comes to my area.
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October 4, 2007 - 10:56 ET by Sergeant ROCKAnd yet, you still have idiots out there they refuse to believe that this kind of stuff goes on. That, in spite of the evidence to the contrary! Dellusional, they are. (YouTube has some clips as well)
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This is just a blurb
October 4, 2007 - 10:45 ET by balboaThis is just a blurb article highlighting an article in another magazine, noting that she's saying perceptions of her are untrue.
Liberal Tactics 101
October 4, 2007 - 10:29 ET by Sergeant ROCKIt's a common ruse by leftists to use such semantics like 'people'. Akin to saying 'unnamed sources' say... The beauty is that you never have to provide any proof. Of course, this doesn't work for substantive issues like 'funding the troops'. 'People' just don't want hear about that of course. Well, according to the purveyors of propaganda..er.. I mean MSM.
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Alleged trophy wife..? Now Monica..
October 4, 2007 - 09:53 ET by Gary HallAlleged trophy wife..? In the opening days of the "Clinton - Monica Lewinski all about oral sex fetish" (when is Hollywood going to produce that movie, I ask?) the late Peter Jennings**, ABC, asked a guest about the "alleged" age difference between the two. For the record, I don't recall that he actually got a direct answer – did not seem to actually want the details in the public conversation. So at this point in time, should not this sick and biased media only refer to Thompson's wife as an "alleged trophy wife?" After all, it is not established as of this date that she is actually a trophy.
For the record, the age difference between Clinton (59) and Monica (22) was 37 years. Surely, in the eyes of the press, that should have made her a trophy "_________."
** UPDATE - took me a minute to find this (source: Newscript.com):
Gary - Monica would be a belt notch
October 4, 2007 - 10:25 ET by Dee BunkGood point about their age difference. Besides that, it's quite different when there's an age difference with a 22-year-old vs a 40-yr-old not to mention the Clinton's 37 yrs vs Thompson's 25 yrs. The older someone gets the less it matters. For example: 15 and 40 is criminal; 20 and 45 is strange; 30 and 55 few give a second thought; 40 and 65 is completely normal.
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October 4, 2007 - 10:55 ET by Gary Hall59 and 22 is a sickness* - especially when the 59 year old is the commander in chief sitting (standing -whatever) in the house of the people, and the 22 year old is an unpaid intern (volunteer) - there with the blessing of her parents to serve and to learn about how the Democrat's leaders operate.
And.. in my house we're 55 and 58. (;~> gary
* "sickness" - In fact even Clinton confided to Dick Morris that the old problem he had ( SIC. with chasing and harrasing women) had raised it's ugly head again.) The president had a problem - an abusive problem. We should have sent him to rehab.
Gary - most definitely
October 4, 2007 - 11:15 ET by Dee BunkIt's most definitely a sickness when it's habitual. It's one thing for two people to meet and fall in love despite their age difference but when a person regularly goes after those much yonger strictly for sex it's sick.
Once a person reaches 30. I don't really think age matters as much, because most people are mature by then. I know couples where the age difference is around 20 yrs and they aren't a trophy thing - they seem very well suited for each other.
if ms. thompson is the trophy ... then what is hillary?
October 4, 2007 - 10:01 ET by pmohbucka $5 coupon a denny's?
a last place ribbon?
a poster child for abstinence?
Answer
October 4, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKAn albatross about his neck.
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Bill's way around the 22nd
October 4, 2007 - 11:43 ET by vrwc13Bill's way around the 22nd Amendment...
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I have to say, while I
October 4, 2007 - 10:05 ET by Darth DutchI have to say, while I think it's stupid the media is covering this when there are so many other issues to cover with Thompson, his wife is the classic definition of a trophy wife - much younger and very pretty. Even if that is the case, there's nothing inherently "wrong" with that, though.
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I dont see the problem with
October 4, 2007 - 10:43 ET by misterbee241I dont see the problem with Fred's trophy wife - Rudy's had three of 'em.
Where are the feminists
October 4, 2007 - 11:34 ET by 10thAmendmentWhere are the feminists screaching about judging someone on their looks alone.
Apparently good looking Republican Women who are successful in their own right are open targets.
Don Imus, a guy who has a history of 40 years of bad taste radio, calls a basketball team something offensive in a poor attempt at humor. He is crucified and fired.
But, to call a succesful women a 'trophy wife', for the sole purpose of dismissing and downgrading her, by the drive by media is okay.
Excuse me but, your hate is showing.
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You know, we can debate the
October 4, 2007 - 12:02 ET by Chris NormanYou know, we can debate the details of this latest insult from the MSM, but the details hardly matter. This is just something they picked out of the air to use to jab at a Republican. There are no merits or flaws to debate. The charge is so baseless and low class, we know that it was made in malice and nothing else.
Jeri better than Fred as prez nom
October 4, 2007 - 14:55 ET by Daniel BakerShe doesn't have the huge negatives of two marriages, old age, and health issues.
I told you so
October 4, 2007 - 23:35 ET by PopularTechI said this weeks ago and all the Fred fanatics jumped all over me but guess what this is not going away. I just heard women talking about this the other day. If you think women are going to ignore this then you are out of touch with reality. There is no way you can spin this. Do you think Bush could win if Laura was 30 in 2000?
Look I do not dislike Fred, I would vote for him vs Hillary any day but I do not think he has a real chance to win and this is a huge issue with women voters conservative or not. Women voters who BTW you are asking not to vote for the first time they have ever had a real chance of a women becoming president (Hillary). Right now the polls show it looks like the GOP will be a Giuliani and Fred ticket. The question is will conservatives vote for that?
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Giuliani will absolutely,
October 5, 2007 - 00:28 ET by Warner Todd HustonGiuliani will absolutely, positively lose to Hillary.
So will Romney.
Neither will get the conservative vote, or the evangelical vote. Without those two blocks no GOP candidate can win.
Really?
October 5, 2007 - 01:22 ET by PopularTechThat is why Giuliani is polling higher then Fred, Romney and McCain vs Hillary? It is more like Fred, Romney and McCain will all absolutely positively lose to Hillary.
Keep in mind the president cannot pass anti-abortion legislation and thus it should be a non-issue. What could Bush do about it except pick Strict Constitutionalist Judges which is what Giuliani already pledged to do.
Do you really think evangelicals would let Hillary win? So if Giuliani wins the nomination conservatives are just going vote Ron Paul or some other irrelevant protest vote? Makes sense if you want Hillary to win.
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Irrelevant?? Sorry, but that does not compute.
October 5, 2007 - 01:39 ET by sarcasmoNot with over $5 million in the bank and better odds than Mitt! You're assuming he'll lose to the other Republicans (not at all certain) and then run third-party (ain't gonna happen, been there done that in '88!). There is NO WAY I'm voting for either Rudy or Hillary, they're both authoritarian control freak peas from the same pod. Want to avoid that issue with me? Nominate someone else.
I will say this, though, even though quoting Jon Stewart's not all that popular 'round these parts:
"The ultimate irony will be that all the work that Dick Cheney has done will make Hillary the most powerful President of the United States" but then he said "don't worry, that scares me, too." I was saying things like that (but to Democrat jeers...) back when Democrats were increasing the power of the Presidency under Clinton & assuming they'd have the Presidency forever. Stewart's as right now as I was back then, IMO.
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Money does not equal voters
October 5, 2007 - 19:45 ET by PopularTechOne person could donate all that money which is irrelevant to actual voter support. I have yet to see real evidence of anything more then a couple thousand very vocal Ron Paul supporters.
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Giuliani has never one time
October 5, 2007 - 02:39 ET by Warner Todd HustonGiuliani has never one time put a constructionist judge on the bench. His claims that he would do so now is an outright lie.
We have to realize that the GOP will face a complete loss this time. Hitlery Clinton will be president, the GOP will lose a dozen more House seats and 8 or so more Senate seats. The ONLY possibility is if Thompson can gain the trust of the American people.
Ron Paul is not credible over the war and terrorism. He is in la, la land on that issue and it makes him not credible as a leader in today's world.
But, conservatives will not vote any third party. They will just stay home. The Evangelicals will do the same thing. They won't drift away to another party they just won't vote at all. Bot will go for Thompson, most likely. But, neither will vote for a Mormon cult member and sham conservative, nor a left leaning Republican gun grabber. McCain is a joke and always was -- he was the media's candidate, not anyone serious about the presidency. Of the rest, only Huckabee has a tiny chance to keep the conservative and evangelical vote.
Without the conservatives and the evangelicals, the GOP absolutely CANNOT win.
I am afraid we are past the time when mere politics will "fix" anything in the United State of America. Our system isn't broken, it has been so materially altered by socialist dogma that it is no longer the American system.
There is only one thing that will give us opportunity to fix our system; Financial collapse.
And that is not long in coming.
(EDIT to clarify something. Above, when I said "Mormon cult member," I was saying that I think that is what evangelicals will say about Romney and why it is that they won't vote for him. I was not endorsing the "cult member" concept, just stating why I think evangelicals won't vote for him.)
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October 5, 2007 - 02:45 ET by Cool ArrowI'm feeling the same about it.
Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.
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Good things can come out of disaster, though.
October 5, 2007 - 03:01 ET by sarcasmoFor example, and despite what government schools want to teach on the subject, history shows us the only reason we don't still have alcohol prohibition was a fiscal crisis.
Damn. It's 4AM and for some reason, I now want one of my infamous bloody marys...
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October 5, 2007 - 03:03 ET by Daniel BakerYou will have to tell me more about how much you hate this "Mormon Cult." Maybe it will give the liberals more ammo against all religion.
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the Mormon "cult" comment
October 5, 2007 - 03:30 ET by Warner Todd HustonSorry for the confusion...
I was saying that evangelicals will view Romney's religion as a Mormon cult. I was not endorsing that view as a "Newbusters" member. I am saying that many evangelicals won't vote for Romney because he is a Mormon.
Most will vote for their values
October 5, 2007 - 17:42 ET by Daniel BakerRomney represents their values.
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...now I WILL speak for
October 5, 2007 - 18:44 ET by Warner Todd Huston...now I WILL speak for myself on Romney (not the "Newsbusters" view, but my own).
Romney represents everyone's values... that is who ever he is in front of, he'll claim their values. I don't see a lick of principle in the man. He has taken just about everyone's point of view at one time or another.He is not the man for our times. We need a man of rock solid principle to lead us in these dangerous times, not the next Clintonesque triangulator.
Wow Warner
October 5, 2007 - 19:50 ET byI am wary of Rudy's claim on judicial appointments also. And I am now beginning to decide among the front runners, some strong words on Mitt. I only wish Hunter was viable as being from San Diego i can attest that he is the same guy today as yesterday.
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I cannot vote for Mitt, myself
October 5, 2007 - 20:20 ET by Warner Todd HustonMitt once ran as the anti-Ronald Reagan! Mitt USED to be for abortion and gay marriage. Now, all of a sudden, he is the pro-life, anti-gay, new Ronald Reagan??
Mitt has no principles at all. He is a panderer. He will say whatever the crowd in front of him wants to hear.
Worse, this flood of "white papers" he is paying others to write is further proof that he has no ideas of his own. It is also proof that he imagines that all power in the universe should be vested in the president. It shows he thinks that the president should be able to cure all of America's ills. THAT, in itself, shows that he is a big, big nanny state government guy.
... and that is NOT a true American principle.
Again, these are MY feelings on Mitt. This should not be taken to represent any "Newsbusters" party line. Newsbusters has taken no position on the presidential contest. These are my thoughts alone as an average citizen.
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October 5, 2007 - 20:25 ET byUnderstood
the difference is with Rudy or Mitt there is a hope while with Hillary it will be Bader-Ginsberg clones
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Warner Todd Huston you are ignorant of the facts
October 5, 2007 - 20:53 ET by Daniel BakerRomney has never supported gay-marriage, and he has never been personally for abortion.
You sound very hateful to say he has no principles.
A person who "had no principles" could not gain the respect of the many he worked with, led , and guided.
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Actions speak louder than words
October 5, 2007 - 20:30 ET by Daniel BakerActions of Governor Romney on values issues
pushed for
an amendment to Massachusetts’ constitution to overturn the same-sex
“marriages” that courts have imposed
testified
before Congress and wrote to senators in favor of the Federal Marriage
Amendment
He opposes cloning
of human embryos for stem cell research—even though his wife has multiple
sclerosis
He vetoed a bill
to expand stem cell research research despite the overwhelmingly hostile liberal majority
in his state legislature
Advised women not to get abortions in his pastoring role
vetoed a bill
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DB... Excellent points
October 5, 2007 - 20:36 ET by bigtimerDB...
Excellent points IMHO.
Gosh ...everyone is soooo
October 5, 2007 - 17:56 ET by bigtimerGosh ...everyone is soooo bleak already.
I refuse to be quite yet.
Thompson/Hunter '08!
As an aside ....I heard that if Hillary gets the nomination for her side there are a lot of congress critters very worried but afraid to say anything out loud because of their fear of Hillary/Billary..they think she will be their defeat in some of their districts....I think this was mostly in red states where some dem's made in-roads, seems to me I heard about 31 seats are worried about this on the dem side....(sounds good to me)
Could be true ya know...just could be.
I am a realist, I have posted adn have known forever how many seats are up in the Senate compared to the dem's...but we may make progress, I so think we have a very good chance at the Presidency.
Warner, I agree. The GOP is toast in '08. Burnt toast.
October 5, 2007 - 20:03 ET by Dave R....the GOP will face a complete loss this time. Hitlery Clinton will be
president, the GOP will lose a dozen more House seats and 8 or so more
Senate seats.
They will be most fortunate if that is all the seats they lose.
And the only way Hillary Rhodam fails to win the WH will be if she ceases breathing between now and election day.
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Well Dave... You got me
October 5, 2007 - 20:15 ET by bigtimerWell Dave...
You got me crying before retiring.
Hope you're happy!
Pass the kleenex please....boo-hoo hoo...sniffle sniffle...
BT
October 5, 2007 - 20:18 ET byYou should not cry at work
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Ah heck botg... I'm over
October 5, 2007 - 20:22 ET by bigtimerAh heck botg...
I'm over it.
bigtimer
October 5, 2007 - 20:29 ET byI know that, i was just making a pun with the definition of 'retiring'
Dave's been all doom N gloom lately, there's over a year to go who know's this might still turn out to be our finest hour
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botg... Hey friend...I
October 5, 2007 - 20:34 ET by bigtimerbotg...
Hey friend...I really took the retiring remark the way you meant it too.
I know Dave is full of doom and gloom, I am not ready to be soooo pessimistic yet.
Thompson/Hunter '08!
Warner and Dave you never know...Thompson may surprise you both...give the guy a chance before you go all suicidal with Hillary...he hasn't been iny debates that we have seen yet, we have a year yet fella's...a lot can happen ya know.
I am a Thompson supporter,
October 5, 2007 - 20:57 ET by Warner Todd HustonI am a Thompson supporter, too. Of course, we still haven't seen his all yet. But there is plenty of time for that.
I like Hunter, too.
Sorry, bt, but I do not see how they can lose.
October 6, 2007 - 12:05 ET by Dave RThe republicans have apparently gone AWOL.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
DaveR, I thought Chicken Little would be a good nic for you..
October 6, 2007 - 12:19 ET by RJ...with all your "sky is falling" doom and gloom, but I like subservient chicken even better....
Which do you prefer? ;^)
RJ
October 6, 2007 - 12:44 ET by shawn228Dave obviously hates Hilary as much as anybody, but he is facing the reality that she stands a very good chance of becoming the next POTUS. I do not feel Dave is a chicken, but sometimes you act like a Cartman.
Well, count on you, shawn, to miss the point
October 6, 2007 - 13:27 ET by RJTry re-reading my post. Then, try reading Dave's CONSTANT onslaught of "we're doomed", posting. Now, think weally, weally hard about what I said in my post.
Here's three ideas to get you going: 1) where did I intimate that Dave doesn't dislike Hillary? 2) where did I say there's NOT a "very good" chance of her becoming the next POTUS? 3) I made it clear (last week-end and today) that my reference to Chicken Little doesn't refer to "being a chicken" but to running around saying the sky is falling.
As for the "Cartman" video, which part do I "sometimes act like?" Going home, instead of arguing my point? Telling other to "screw themselves?" Hmmm. Can't seem to make the connection, shawn. Could it be a boogyman you've created to make yourself feel better for being bashed around?
Harsh? Hey, you decided to play and you chose the weapons. But just remember, shawn, "there's no crying in baseball." :^)
P.S. Last week, Dave and I were posting back and forth, jokingly, about Chicken Little suits (I was going to get one and join him) etc. The Subservient Chicken link was a joking continuation of that, which I'm sure Dave got.
RJ
October 6, 2007 - 13:38 ET bydoes not run home
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RJ you are using your
October 6, 2007 - 13:46 ET by shawn228RJ you are using your familar tactic of twisting peoples words. I never posting anything that implied
: you said Dave doesn't like Hillary
: You saying she does Hillary does not have a chance on becoming the next POTUS
I merely used those points to emphasize that Dave does not like Hillary and has strong belief she will be the next POTUS.
As for the Cartman skit. I concede you do not take you ball and go home, you like to belittle people and try to portray yourself as all high and mighty"that is where you remind me of Cartman"
hell, shawn, I AM high and mighty
October 6, 2007 - 13:58 ET by RJYou think I should pretend I'm not?
As for the rest of it, words mean somethng, shawn. You threw those items into your post as if they had something to do with my post to Dave. Are you now saying they were just added to sort of bulk out your post?
Kidding aside, you jumped into an on-going joking communication between Dave and I that went back to last weekend. You should check the waters before jumping to conclusions....particularly before deciding to try to label other posters with irrelevant UTube videos.
(...and fer cryin' out loud, shawn, take the first sentence as the joke it was intended to be....)
(...fer cryin' out loud,
October 6, 2007 - 14:04 ET by shawn228(...fer cryin' out loud, shawn, take the first sentence as the joke it was intended to be....)
Alright RJ:) Hard to tell when you are attacking someone or joking around
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I've noticed you have that problem, shawn
October 6, 2007 - 14:06 ET by RJAll the more reason to look before you leap. ;^)
hell, shawn, I AM high and
October 6, 2007 - 14:13 ET byhell, shawn, I AM high and mighty;
reminds me of Nicholson from "The Last Detail" (did that make your movie thread?)
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botg
October 6, 2007 - 14:33 ET by shawn228Don't think I saw that move botg, but when it comes to Hillary Clinton.....
lol, botg...
October 6, 2007 - 14:30 ET by RJ"I AM the f---ing Shore Patrol!"
Well look at it this way,
October 5, 2007 - 20:22 ET by Warner Todd HustonWell look at it this way, Dave. We finally have the opportunity to remake the GOP to what it should be. A total failure and crack up gives us that chance! Maybe we can retool and come back stronger after this valley?
I'm With Fred!
October 6, 2007 - 14:14 ET by Free StinkerThat picture reminds me a little of Jesicca Alba.
Go Fred !
You mean hot, hot, hot
October 6, 2007 - 14:28 ET by Warner Todd HustonYou mean hot, hot, hot little Jessica Alba?