NYDaily News Distorts Fred Thompson's al Qaeda/Smoking Comment


Candidate Fred Thompson is the butt of media jokes, once again. This time it is due to the reporting by the New York Daily News of Thompson's comments in Sioux City, Iowa over the weekend. Thompson's claim that an al Qaeda enforced smoking ban in Iraq led to many Iraqi citizens joining the U.S. side in the attempt to rid the country of the foreign terror network was reported to the misinformed media's amusement, becoming an excuse to make fun of the candidate. But, as is the case with most "reporting" by the MSM, Thompson turns out to be right in his assertions and the MSM has egg on their faces, once again. It seems more and more that the media has decided to do their level best to destroy Fred Thompson's bid for the White House. I wonder what that says of their fear of him?

The NYDNews reported Thompson's comments on Saturday.

"They said, 'You gotta quit smoking,'" Thompson explained to a questioner asking about progress in Iraq during a town hall-style meeting.

Thompson said the smoking ban and terror tactics Al Qaeda used to oppress women and intimidate local leaders pushed tribes in western Anbar Province to support U.S. troops.

So, how are they purposefully misconstruing this smoking ban comment? They start with making light of the comment.

But Thompson's tale of a smokers' revolt baffled some in the audience of about 150 who came to decide whether the former Tennessee senator is ready for prime time.

"I don't know what that was about," said Jim Moran, 72, who had driven from nearby McCook Lake, S.D.

... and then they just leave it at that. No further comment or investigation of what Thompson meant, or could have meant. No research into the facts of the claim, no attempt to clarify. No follow up at all.

Leave it to the MSM to refuse to follow up on a candidate's comments solely for the purpose of making that candidate look bad. In this case they employed the method of making Thompson look bad by what they don't say, rather than what they do say of him.

So, what did Thompson really mean then? How did al Qaeda's smoking ban really affect the situation in Iraq? What did the media not bother to reveal about the real situation in Iraq, the one that Thompson referenced?

For a little elucidation of that we turn to military blogger and Iraq war correspondent Michael Yon. In June of this year, he reported that many Iraqis were extremely angry over how al Qaeda treated the citizenry when they were the power in their communities.

On the evening of the 24th I spoke with a local Iraqi official, Colonel Faik, who said the Muftis would order the severance of the two fingers used to hold a cigarette for any Iraqis caught smoking. Other reports, from here in Diyala and also in Anbar, allege that smokers are murdered by AQI. Most Iraqis smoke and this particular prohibition appeared to have earned the ire of many locals. After an American unit cleared an apartment complex on the 23rd, LTC Smiley, the battalion commander, reported that residents didn't ask for food and water, but cigarettes. In other parts of Baqubah, people have been celebrating the routing of AQI by lighting up and smoking cigarettes.

Amputations and executions just for smoking seems to me to be a good enough reason for Iraqis to be upset over a smoking ban, don't you? It seems to me good enough reason for them to join the U.S. led effort to kill such murderers and take their revenge, doesn't it?

The same point that Yon reported was also confirmed in June by CNN, as well.

Locals say al Qaeda amputated fingers for smoking

Nationalist insurgents say al Qaeda excesses are behind their falling-out. Several sources said al Qaeda members burned a 7-year-old child alive and murdered women and other children in the towns and villages around the provincial capital of Baquba. They did not give names or dates to back up their claims.

"They [al Qaeda] ruled with tyranny. They really harmed our town, so we had to stop them, and they left, no return," said one young gunman, who claimed membership in the nationalist 1920s Brigades.

Other civilian and insurgent sources in the towns of Tahrir and neighboring Buhruz said al Qaeda had imposed strict regulations, including a ban on smoking -- punishable by the amputation of a finger or hand -- and a curfew on citizens walking in the streets after 4 p.m.

It appears, then, that a mere smoking ban wasn't all there was to the smoking ban that Thompson was talking about. It just wasn't as simple as the New York Daily News tried to make it seem with a tactic that made Thompson's point about the smoking ban seem trite and silly.

But, in truth, Thompson's point was 100% correct. Iraqis not only want their smokes, but having their fingers chopped off and their countrymen killed just for taking a puff or two was quite enough for them to join an effort to kill their tormentors. Yes, even if that meant joining the U.S. to do so -- a situation the MSM cannot seem to imagine is possible.

What we have here, though, is just another attempt to destroy Thompson. Sadly, even Drudge fell for this Thompson slagging effort as he highlighted the NYDNews story on his well-visited site.

It certainly seems that Fred Thompson's campaign for the Republican nomination for president ranks as the most media maligned campaign of this political season. Even Ron Paul is treated with more respect by the media.

So, why all the efforts to destroy Thompson's candidacy? Are they doing their best to find that "Macaca" moment to hang around Thompson's neck in replication of their successful destruction of George Allen's campaign in Virginia?

It would sure seem so.


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I wonder if Edwards

I wonder if Edwards healthcare plan will force you to quit smoking?

No, but...

No, but I think it does force every single american to be assigned a doctor and to have a physical every year, no exceptions.  It really would be laughable if it were not so serious and being only a clone of the Hillary plan.  Or the Obama plan, yada yada.  Highlights:

 John Edwards said on Sunday that his universal health care proposal would require that Americans go to the doctor for preventive care...requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care...You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK...women would be required to have regular mammograms...mandatory health care plan would cover preventive, chronic and long-term health care. The plan would include mental health care as well as dental and vision coverage for all Americans... his plan would cost up to $120 billion a year, a cost he proposes covering by ending President Bush's tax cuts to people who make more than $200,000 per year...source(all emphases mine)

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

http://www.michaelyon-online.com

That's a lot of

That's a lot of mandatory dictates from John "Lil' Castro" Edwards.

How Fidel must be smiling today.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

Well, if implemented in

Well, if implemented in Iraq, you would probably be forced to get steel plated gloves as a means of preventative care. Just in case they decide to chop your fingers off for taking a few puffs.

Johnny Blaze
CEO, Halo Smoke Juice

Lord knows I hate it when

Lord knows I hate it when the MSM are blatantly biased, but I have to cut them some slack on this one.

Thompson said:

"They said, 'You gotta quit smoking,'" Thompson explained to a
questioner asking about progress in Iraq during a town hall-style
meeting.

CNN did have a story on the finger-amputations in June, but the reporters and the folks there to see Thompson in Iowa could very well have missed it. Thompson could have said "They amputate the fingers of anyone who smokes" instead of the more cryptic (and weird-sounding) remark.

But they're not completely off the hook: while it shouldn't be expected for them to research every comment a candidate makes, one would think that one of the journalists there would've said "HUH???" and then Thompson could have clarified what he meant. So much for the follow-up question.

So they didn't really "distort" Thompson's remark. He gave them the ammunition by being vague, and of course they took the quote and ran with it, not bothering to clarify.

 

... so you think they

... so you think they wouldn't fall all over themselves to do follow up on the al Qaeda smoking ban to better educate the readers if it were a Dem. who had made the statement?

Yeah, riiiight.

Warner, I did say

Warner, I did say

one would think that one of the journalists there would've said "HUH???" (that's a figurative, not a literal "HUH?"), which indicates that I thought they should have followed up on it.

And no, I don't think they would "fall all over themselves to do follow up on the al Qaeda smoking ban to
better educate the readers if it were a Dem. who had made the statement"

I think they would just ignore it and never mention it.

Edit: added comment: Upon thinking about it, I have to qualify that. If they were aware at the time, of the amputations, then yes, they would make sure the Dem clarified his/her comment. If they thought he/she had just stepped in it, they would ignore it.

I wasn't excusing them, just saying that had Thompson said "They cut off people's fingers for smoking", there would have been no clarification needed.

I find your assumptions just

I find your assumptions just plain wrong. No matter what their candidates say they try and spin it to advantage. If Clinton had made the exact same comment, this so-called reporter would have taken the time to research WHY she said it.

Were it Clfinton, it would have gone something like this:

"They said, 'You gotta quit smoking,'" Clinton explained to a questioner asking about progress in Iraq during a town hall-style meeting. Clinton was referring to reports of al Qaeda cutting off the fingers of Iraqis caught smoking, even executing them for doing so, that were widely reported last June.

And there you would see the MSM helping tip in the facts for a candidate.

So, I utterly disagree with you on all counts. But, then, your main motive is probably to advance the prospects of your own favored candidate, whom ever that may be, to the detriment of Thompson.

I said If they were

I said


If they were aware at the time, of the amputations, then yes, they
would make sure the Dem clarified his/her comment. If they thought
he/she had just stepped in it, they would ignore it.

Isn't that pretty much the same as what you said about the media spinning it for a Democrat?

And please don't assume you know what my motives "probably" are. I happen to favor Thompson. That doesn't mean I think he's perfect, or that I would never say he could have done better. In this instance, I think he could have.

 

"That doesn't mean I think

"That doesn't mean I think he's perfect, or that I would never say he could have done better. In this instance, I think he could have."

Perhaps he could have. But were he a Dem, the media would have fixed it FOR him.

Well we agree on that.

Well we agree on that.

I dunno about the "even Ron Paul" part, but

Thanks for the admission we've been getting some rather severe disrespect, which has happily been busted by far more people than little ol' me. I don't think America will elect a rude person over Hillary. People incapable of something simple like polite debate simply aren't Presidential, IMO. And Reason certainly gave Fred no-better treatment than Dr. Paul got...

As for the substance-ban itself, the irony should be obvious to everyone by now, whether it's control-freaks vs tobacco or control-freaks vs anything-else, it tends to fail when people want freedom...And it probably won't work any better for the exact same policy but by control-freaks we happen to like in Afghanistan.

Nothing changes.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Slime machine in gear

The American Left has no values to propose. It can only destroy those who have values. Thompson is seen as a threat, so they have plugged in their slime machine.

Wait.... so the smoking ban

Wait.... so the smoking ban that the Democrats 'running' Illinois recently passed (statewide smoking ban in indoor 'public' places.... you know, like private clubs and bars...) is also heavily pushed by AQI? intriguing, wish I hadn't missed that before...

I really think that questioning others' masculinity is a game probably better left to people who haven't had more cock in and out of them than a Tyson Chicken regional distribution center. AceOfSpades 06162007

with CNN's other anecdotal evidence

* burned a 7-year-old child alive
* murdered women and other children (and "spys") 
* imposed a curfew on citizens walking in the streets after 4 p.m.
* banned Friday prayers
* forced payment of a "war tax"
* kidnapped for ransom
* sold smuggled fuel on the black market
* used forced labor to harvest oranges and dates

Its easy to see why Fred would go with al Qaeda's smoking ban to illustrate his grasp of local Anbar resentments to al Qaeda

 

Hey, Dingy's back! How was

Hey, Dingy's back! How was rehab?

Looks like nothing has changed. Ever the apologist, I see.

 

update

on the congressional hearings today, ambassador crocker or gen. petreaus mentioned the fact that the terrorists were cutting off the fingers and hands of smokers .. soooo, you liberal asshole reporters and democratic peckerwoods ..

never look a gift skunk in the tail ..