McClatchy News: Bush Will Rank at Bottom in Presidential History

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Here we go again with another pointless Bush bashing presidential rating story filled with quotes from partisan, hack "historians." In this report, Bush doesn't have "many achievements" and will finish "mired in an unpopular war" unless, of course, that war mysteriously happens to "unexpectedly" turn out alright and he is "destined for the failed presidents' club." Forget the fact that what a president does in office will not be assessable for at least 10 years after he leaves office, forget that these historians change their ideas on who is a good president every decade, forget that these "historians" are part of the far left University system we are saddled with. These "ranking" stories are always full of partisan left nonsense and this one is no different.

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After recounting how Harry S Truman supposedly "came back from the political abyss" to become a highly ranked president, McClatchy news finds no reason to expect Bush to make that transformation.

Will history really give Bush the Truman bounce? Several historians doubt it, noting that no other president other than the former haberdasher from Independence, Mo., has received such a 180-degree revision to the benefit of his legacy.

McClatchy apparently is unaware that Truman has only gotten that "bounce" in the last few years. In fact, while president, he went through some pretty tough times as the newspapers and radio reporters raked him over the coals repeatedly. He almost lost his bid for a full term of his own with former vice president Henry Wallace running on a third party ticket.

In any case, McClatchy's partisan "historian" is sure Bush is cooked, even as his presidency isn't yet over.

“I don’t think any president has had as significant a re-evaluation as Truman,” said Columbia University historian Alan Brinkley. “(Dwight) Eisenhower has risen in historical evaluation quite a lot, but not to the same degree. (James) Polk was once ranked much higher than he now usually is. I suspect (Ronald) Reagan will fluctuate a good deal over time.”

He suspects Reagan will "fluctuate"? Most likely that is because he hopes Reagan's new found high ranking for winning the Cold War is forgotten, that's for sure. This Brinkley fellow reveals his political point of view with his last comment about how he feels, in true Harry Reid, cut-and-run fashion, that the Iraq war is already lost.

Bush, Brinkley said, “does not seem to me to have many achievements that would earn him a high ranking — again, unless the Iraq war turns out, unexpectedly, to be successful in the long term.”

The war could only go well "unexpectedly" according to this fellow who is obviously not paying any attention to current events.

Every time we see these ridiculous stories, I harken back to the fact that from the 1820's until about the 1920s Andrew Jackson was considered one of the most famous presidents we ever had. How many "Jackson" towns, counties, schools, streets, and other such named municipal buildings do we have across America? "Historians" thought Jackson the best president ever until the PC idea that his owning slaves and fighting Indians made him persona non grata. Now, no matter what he did as president, his name is anathema to these so-called historians all his work forgotten, shunned even, despite the fact that his name is so ubiquitous across the country --now with no one even knowing why thanks to these "historians."

These Charles Beard/Anthony Zini influenced America haters have no standing by which to be believed. They are almost universally uneducated enough to assess economic history and this makes them completely useless in assessing any president after Andrew Jackson destroyed the Second Bank of the US. Worse, few if any of them have the slightest clue about Constitutional history and interpretation. The proof of this is the fact that these so-called historians continue to rank Franklin Roosevelt as one of our presidential "greats."

Roosevelt was a socialist in everything but name. He destroyed our Constitution, ruined the economy, made the Great Depression last a decade longer than it had to, he did nothing about Civil Rights, and lied our way into WWII. His "legacy" is high taxes, welfare, a broken and unconstitutional social security system and a Supreme Court run amuck. But to the extreme leftists in our Universities he is a great president despite all the harm he did to our nation.

So, when we see these ridiculous presidential ranking stories, we can dismiss them as so much pointless fluff filled with mere partisan positions because the so-called historians they come to for their rankings are unqualified to make such a determination.

In closing, though, I'd like to praise this story in one aspect. They quote the great Forrest McDonald in their story. McDonald is a true historian, so the McClatchy newspapers did find one real historian to quote in their story. In keeping with his excellence, his opinion was the only one in the story that made any sense.

“It’s going to take two generations before anyone can make judgment on the success or failure of his presidency,” recalled Forrest McDonald, a professor emeritus from the University of Alabama, a conservative and a highly regarded presidential historian, who attended the meeting. “You figure that it usually takes one generation, 20 years. He says it’s going to take 40. It was a strange stance to me.”

Bush has publicly stated on several occasions that the true history of his presidency will be written long after he is dead.

McDonald said the jury is still out on the Bush presidency, that it “could go either way between favorable and unfavorable.”

Just so, Mr. McDonald and an attaboy to McClatchy for finding at least one reputable and brilliant historian to quote in their otherwise useless story.

Naturally, this bit is buried at the end of the story with most that precedes it being a Bush bashing extravaganza.


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I imagine that this writer

I imagine that this writer would put slick willy in his top 3 Presidents of all time.

I can't believe that McClatchy is arrogant enough to think they can go ahead and judge history for future societies.  Nixon's legacy isn't even close to being fully recognized, but we can go ahead and fill in GWB???? 

 

THE LONG VIEW...

 Those who shall sit in judgement of GWBush have not been born yet. Also worth nothing, many of those folks will never read a McClatchy paper. I guessing they won't be around then either...with any luck.

 

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Reagan got no respect or

Reagan got no respect or praise at the time of his Presidency.

In college I had a noted

In college I had a noted professor (who was a socialist) who said that: "History is never written on the day or the week or the month it happens. It is not wrriten until many years later when all of the politics has been filtered out and only the facts remain."

Bush, Brinkley said, “does not seem to me to have many achievements that would earn him a high ranking — again, unless the Iraq war turns out, unexpectedly, to be successful in the long term.”

That's the point - successful in the long term. As far as other achievements, how about education, energy policy, the economy, foreign policy initiatives that even Bill Clinton is praising him for. But most of all how quickly and effectively he was able to secure our country from another major terror attack after being so terribly exposed by one of Brinkley's heroes, the do-nothing Presidency of Bill Clinton.

 

Rater lower than Jimma

Rater lower than Jimma Carter?

McClatchy

McClatchy's earnings and and stock price have plummeted because nobody reads their papers and nobody buys their advertising, so who cares what they say.  Nobody reads them.   

LIKE I SAID...

As I pointed out, I'm guessing there will be no McClatchy papers around by the time history judges GWBush & others of our time. The newspaper industry is dying in this country, one of the reasons is the blatenly leftist bias/agenda printed day in & day out. Think of the trees that will be saved when the papers go the way of the Soviet Union...

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Second to Buchanan

I was only 7-to-11 during Carter's presidency, but even then I could tell Carter was one of the worst, probably second only to James Buchanan. Those two slots, I believe, are firmly ensconced.

Carter's shortcomings and ineffectiveness were more immediately obvious, because they were failures while attempting to address short-term needs, such as fuel shortages, runaway inflation, hostage crisis, nuclear plant malfunctions. In every instance, he zigged when he should've zagged.

Bush has done quite well with most of the short-term matters: Rebounding from 9-11, maintaining a healthy economy. We have to take a wait-and-see on the war in Iraq, if education reform has an impact, and if the unprecedented AIDS relief in Africa sets the stage for a healthier world.

Even if some of those long-rangers fall short, he's middle of the pack at worst. Certainly one of the most influential presidents we've had.

Better than VanBuren, maybe not quite a Polk.

*****

"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess." - Steve Martin

It's like when you're 17

It's like when you're 17 and your dad is the worst parent in the world.  You can't wait to get out of the house and leave him behind.

Then 5, 10, 15 years later you realize you're a better, stronger person because of him.  You look back with a little distance and context and you see that all those things that you hated about him at the time are the very things that made you who you are.

Doing things only to be popular may get you liked in the short term.  But more often than not the long term outcomes and consequences are less than desired at best, and often disastrous.

  Well put

 

Well put sublight.

There is not a day that goes by when I don’t think of my
Dad.

Things that seem to be BS in the day were always the right
thing to do now.. 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

a president who refuses to

a president who refuses to secrure the border in the age of terrorism, basically ignoring any sort of national security, has my vote for worst president. 

build the fence you worhtless man!!!!

McClatchy WHO?

History will know the name of Bush.  And he will be one of the greats.

But no one will remember who this McClatchy clown was.   

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

Well, at least they stopped

Well, at least they stopped hating Ronald Reagan long enough to hate George W Bush. Having been subjected to the Bee, in my years in Sacramento, I can testify that they are stuck in the New Deal days. They caricture all Republicans as little Monopoly millionaire men.    

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Let me point out a few

Let me point out a few things this poor Liberal might want to take a good look at before throwing stones.

Bill Clintons Legacy: 

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance

- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates

- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly

- First president sued for sexual harassment.

- First president accused of rape.

- First first lady to come under criminal investigation

- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case

- First president to establish a legal defense fund.

- First president to be held in contempt of court

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

- Most sex scandals of any president

 

Just for fun here are some more Dem sex scandals just for fun.

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

You left out a few things

You left out a few things including the facts that in 8 years:

  • his administration never had an energy policy
  • did nothing about the healthcare system
  • left social security without any reforms
  • left the country in a recession
  • was mired in corporate scandals that went unpunished
  • did zero about the environment
  • and, of course, left this country unsecured and at risk to terrorists.

Time and time again I have asked liberals to please explain to me what was great about those 8 years?

"Historians"

What do the quotes mean to you?  You're only a real historian if you agree with them?

 I particularly enjoyed your FDR rant.  Reagan won the cold war but FDR didn't win WWII.  Great balancing act on your part.

 Keep up this balanced viewpoint and we'll no longer need teachers, professors, historians, media, God or any other source of intelligence and perspective. 

 Thanks.

On another point...

While we reserve judgement on presidential rankings for another 20-40 years I trust that applies to all recent presidents?  Not just the ones from your own party?

Quick show of hands...how many agree Clinton was a terrible president...

If you raised your hand you're an arm-chair "historian" like everyone else.

 

Terrible person, for

Terrible person, for certain. Currently I'd say mediocre president at best.

Terrible is reserved for Carter and (my fellow Lancastrian) Buchanan. (Seriously, couldn't Pennsylvania do better than that for its only president?)

*****

"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess

May I recommend...

If you haven't yet read it, I highly recommend "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell.  Besides being a really good read, he has several pages where he talks all about the phenomenon that was Buchanan.

Apparently, by the standards of the day, Mr Buchanan was a very handsome man and people just FELT he was presidential.  Basically he was all looks and very little brain and fumbled through his time in office by feigning gravitas or something.  I wonder if maybe Clinton did much the same?  (In fact, Clinton is also mentioned in the book.)

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

Haven't read it (of course,

Haven't read it (of course, as we recently learned, all conservatives don't read, unless it's a bumper sticker.)

I'll keep that one in mind... thanks!

*****

"Some people have a way with words. Other people, er, I don't know. Not have way, I guess

what a lot of people don't realize is...

Even if there was no 9-11, no War On Terror, no Iraq, gas prices were the same if not lower than in 2000......these same people would STILL be claiming that the Bush presidency was a "failure". Why? Well.....they'd come up with something....

A point I make to some people is that the MSM and everyone else who hates GWB with all their might would still hate him, again, even if all what I had mentioned above happened/didn't happen. If there was no war, economy was still roaring, and gas was a dollar a gallon, they would STILL hate him. It doesn't matter.

Invalidity

The simple fact that this "worst president ever" theme has been going on since inauguration day 2001 proves there is no validity to it.