Padilla Convicted, But AP Still Can't Believe He's Guilty!

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So, as you all know, the news comes out that Jose Padilla has been convicted of being a terrorist by a US Court, yet the AP wants to focus more on what it feels the government did wrong than what Padilla did. I guess the AP thinks the US government is more guilty than is a convicted terrorist.

Even after his conviction, the AP fills their report with "supposedly," "possible," and other mitigating verbiage to describe Padilla and the other terror suspects in the news. But even as they want to give Padilla a pass they cast the Bush Administration's efforts as their "zeal to stop homegrown terror." The story makes Padilla seem put upon and mistreated while the Bush Administration is cast as the overwrought party. This AP story gives a lot of space to Padilla's defense and little to the government's proven case. Apparently they just cannot make themselves believe that Padilla is really guilty of any thing.

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Starting off with a slam on the Bush Administration, you can just feel the AP's desire to say "allegedly" after every sentence. Padilla Is Convicted in Terrorism Case

MIAMI (AP) - Jose Padilla was convicted of federal terrorism support charges Thursday after being held for 3 1/2 years as an enemy combatant in a case that came to symbolize the Bush administration's zeal to stop homegrown terror.

"Zeal to stop homegrown terror," AP? With this the AP acts as if the Bush Administration is out on a lark or maybe indulging an unhealthy obsession to stop terrorism. Zeal is a note of passion, not one to describe a lawful and necessary, even grim, duty. And the Padilla indictment was no effort to stop only "homegrown terror" it was an attempt to stop ALL terror. Further, isn't that the government's job? Is a flippant "zeal" the proper way to describe the effort?

The AP also used a lot of mitigating verbiage when describing the proof used against Padilla to convict him. They wanted to make sure that the reader doubted the mounting and proven evidence, apparently. Language like the following prefaces each claim made by the government:

  • The three are accused of being...
  • ...was supposedly...
  • ...a five-page form Padilla supposedly filled out...
  • ...purportedly used code...

That's a lot of purportedlys and supposedlys, there AP. Especially when you take into account that Padilla has been convicted and the supposedlys are now accepted as proven facts.

But, not for the AP. In the AP's minds Padilla still deserves the benefit of the doubt.

They also take a lot of time to detail all the charges that were not ultimately pursued against Padilla and never once mention that these charges might have been dropped to keep secret any information gained from Padilla concerning them to assist in further terror investigations.

But, worse than all this, the AP gives the Padilla defense people several times to speak to Padilla's innocence and lists all his possible defenses but the prosecutor's words are only given one line of space.

Here are all the mentions of how innocent Padilla and the other three are:

The defense contended they were trying to help persecuted Muslims in war zones with relief and humanitarian aid.

The charges brought in civilian court in Miami, however, were a pale shadow of those initial claims in part because Padilla, 36, was interrogated about the plot when he was held as an enemy combatant for 3 1/2 years in military custody with no lawyer present and was not read his Miranda rights.

Padilla's lawyers insisted the form was far from conclusive and denied that he was a "star recruit," as prosecutors claimed, of the North American support cell intending to become a terrorist. Padilla's attorneys said he traveled to Egypt in September 1998 to learn Islam more deeply and become fluent in Arabic.

"His intent was to study, not to murder," said Padilla attorney Michael Caruso.

"It wasn't a terrorist operation. It was a relief operation," said Jayyousi attorney William Swor.

Here are the paragraphs that call him guilty with the one quote from a prosecutor.

The form, recovered by the CIA in 2001 in Afghanistan, contains seven of Padilla's fingerprints and several other personal identifiers, such as his birthdate and his ability to speak Spanish, English and Arabic.

"He provided himself to al-Qaida for training to learn to murder, kidnap and maim," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Frazier in closing arguments.

In fact, most of the story is laying out Padilla's defense, how badly he was supposedly treated and how so many of the government's charges were dropped. Consequently, one gets far more a feeling that Padilla was mistreated than that he was found guilty by reading this AP story.

But, to the AP, it seems that Padilla and those like him are the Davy to the evil US government's Goliath.

It all makes you wonder: does the AP remember 9/11?

It doesn't seem so.


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I'm sure follow-up stories

I'm sure follow-up stories about Padilla will contain the phrase "the Bush administration claims he was guilty of...."

}}---> Padilla hypocrisy

When it's personal, the Dems hold a grudge forever.

  • Hinckley gets furloughs

  • Sirhan Sirhan rots in prison

  • Shouts of "Free Johnny Taliban"

  • Shouts of "Free Padilla"

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

I just thought of another one...

"Jose Padilla, whom the Bush administration calls a terrorist..."

The AP is still trying to

The AP is still trying to figure out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

Don't ask them to do the hard stuff.

 

}}---> Tootsie pops

I'm wondering how many licks it takes a DEm to get all that delicious lead out of Chinese toys.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Well, I'm still kinda curious...

About all the "dirty bomb" stuff, since that was the original hype about this Padilla guy, but his convictions seem to be for completely different crimes, with no mention of a "dirty bomb" radiological device.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

}}---> Dirt bombs

The party line is that the dirty bomb conspiracy thing might reveal techniques and sources Homeland Security doesn't want outed.

We can think what we want but that story is about 50 years from declassification.  Look for it on War Stories with Oliver North III.

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I guess/hope that's logical

But if people like me already know about the allegation, I'd think they could go ahead and get him for that, too. Sometimes I don't quite "get" the US intelligence establishment, but I guess part of that comes from travel and stuff like seeing how "secret" US intelligence actually-is in other places. Hopefully, this time they're really protecting something important, though one wonders "why make the specific dirtybomb allegation at all, if you don't wish to at least partly reveal sources & methods behind said allegation?" Seems to me like they once-again got dazzled by the media, and didn't follow the first rule of intelligence -- "Shut up."
JMR

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}}---> Padilla

To me he's just the terrorist formerly known as an American.

And that's a good thing ~ Martha Stewart

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

They might not have had

They might not have had enough proof for conviction on those grounds. They had to settle for "tax evasion" for Al Capone, but he still went to jail.

Question: What do you call a felon who goes to jail on lesser crimes than he was originally charged with?

Answer: Inmate.

Sarc, the information about

Sarc, the information about the "dirty bomb" was obtained from Padilla while he was in Guantanamo as an enemy combatant.  He was not Miranidized, and he was not allowed a lawyer to be present during his interrogation.  When the administration was forced to have Padilla tried in a civilian court, that information was ruled inadmissible and could not be used.  Without that information, there was not enough evidence to convict on the dirty bomb plot.

Would someone tell those d*mnfool liberals that when a nation "prosecutes" a war, it means to fight, not litigate? 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

AP

Usually the folks at news outlets such as AP and the New York Times display an almost religous reverence for our courts.  This devotion is usually on display when decisions contrary to Bush Adminsitration policy are handed down by "corageous" and "thoughtful" judges.

They certainly felt that way in the Scooter Libby case.

What happened to this judicial deference?

I bet YOU can answer that

I bet YOU can answer that one fer yourself!

LOL

Anyone that is AGAINST what

Anyone that is AGAINST what this administration is doing are the democracks' and liberals' heroes. They can't believed that their HEROES are being prosecuted. To them our troops, who lay their lives to protect Americans, are the criminals; while thugs and terrorists, who kills Americans and allies, are the innocents and victims.

With this logic, I would conlude that AP and other lefty tabloids are terrorists symphatizers. They are liberal news carriers that need to be condemned!   

Dontcha' know Senior Chief,

Dontcha' know Senior Chief, guys like Padilla aren't terrorists, they're freedom fighters, and our soldiers are fascist stormtroopers. I hope Padilla drops the soap.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

}}---> Get it right Blazer

Jackbooted fascist stormtroopers, if you please.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

A terrorist being convicted

A terrorist being convicted is a cause for a day of rage by liberals.

 My mistake Cool,

 My mistake Cool, jackbooted, fascist, fritz wearing, stormtroopers. I hear they even hold their cigarettes between their middle, and ring fingers, when smoking.

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

The "liberals"

The "liberals" convict Cheney, Bush, Gonzalez, Rove, et.al. without a trial or a jury. Yet they'll never convict the convicted. Sickening.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

I heard...

That the AP is supposedly a news organization that purports to publish unbiased news. It has been alleged that they actually hire people who might have actually graduated with a journalism degree from some supposed institution or other. By their recent and continuing reports, however, there is a huge amount of doubt as to the veracity of these allegations. It is rather more likely and possible that the "AP" as an organization actually is a front for terrorist organizations and uses propagandists and marketeers to put forth misinformation and disinformation with the intent of creating public confusion and hesitancy of action on the part of Western Governments in taking offensive action against any terrorists or terrorist organization. It has been furhter alleged that the initials "A" and "P" that they are commonly referred to by actually stand for "Al qaeda Propaganda" .

Anyway, that;s what I heard.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

HABEAS CORPUS IS GONE!

"how badly he was supposedly treated"

Being locked up without charge in TOTAL violation of his Constitutional rights is bad enough. Haven't you people figured out that if they can do that to one American Citizen, they can come and get you today?

And this is TOTALLY besides the point of whether or not he's guilty of the terroism charges. He probably is and should be locked up BUT BY THE BOOK! Again I'm convinced that the Conservative love of Rule of Law is only a myth.

Do any of you remember the Weather Underground? These were real, live Domestic Terrorists, blowing things up! Most of them were released on technicalities because their Constitutional Rights were violated by the Federal Government.

There is a real good chance that Padillia could get out in the future by the courts on such a technicality, when he really should be locked up.

And if any of you are mistakenly apprehended and put in a hole because you were mistakenly declared an "Enemy Combatant" you all dug your own graves with your unquestioning moral support of this unconstitutional policy.

And if the suspension of Habeas Corpus is somehow really nesessary to defend this country, let Bush grow a pair and make it official and take the political hit!

And before any of you mention Lincoln's suspension in the Civil War, remember that it was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court after the fact. Not something the "Liberal Media" ever mentions.

Any of you ever read "They Thought They Were Free?" The language used on this site is terrifyingly similar!

The hysteria is too

The hysteria is too hilarious.

Thanks once again Dickus Headus Maximus. You da man.

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}}---> SPQR what?

You are claiming Padilla was tried in what? A Military Tribunal?

He was faced with the evidence pertinent to the charges.  They did not charge him with the Dirty Bomb conspiracy because they had other charges that did not specify a dirty bomb.

Are you claiming the US court did not prove the case they brought?

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precisely what is wrong with

just what is wrong with "showing zeal" being "zealous" etc. etc.etc. with efforts to stop home grown terror?

last time i looked it was our country not the Associated Press's.

just what the h#&& is the problem, he was CONVICTED. we are told by the same bunch to just swallow it and soldier on when a couple of boarder patrollmen are convicted under some, to put it mildly, interesting pieces of evidence.

so whats the difference with this festered rectum!!!

BAHHHHHHH Humbug.

C

 

Free Padilla NOW!!!

Let's hope this beomes a campaign issue!

There is much wailing and nashing of teeth at the Collective deep in the leftist swamplands.

I expect the suspect usuals will be starting the FREE PADILLA NOW any day soon.

Check out my latest YouTube...but only if you support the troops and their mission: Better Men Than Me/The Battle For Fallujah

}}---> Free Sirhan Sirhan! NOW!!

I don't know why those Democrats don't free this Freedom Fighter.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Free MANSON Now!

LOL cool... The list of freedom fighters is endless...

What about poor old Charlie Manson, Squeaky Fromm, the guy who shot Lennon but whose name escapes me...

Check out my latest YouTube...but only if you support the troops and their mission: Better Men Than Me/The Battle For Fallujah

}}---> Free Chapman

Yeah, man Free Mark Chapman.

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just think.

this guy could have wound up as a running mate of the Riverside Goat Rancher that has been shilling for the various t-head organizations on the middle eastern "Al Jazeeeera" tv network.

could you imagine two of these idiots in competition for the propaganda of the hour prize.

there was a rumor floating around some time ago that the Ass-ociated Press was doing contract work for some of the middle eastern propaganda organizations.

the question lately is, has the AP news side been taken over by the propaganda side of the house or was the propaganda branch really the tail that wagged the dog.

based on what we have seen in the last couple of years, the over all question is should Reuuuuters and or Ass-ociated Press be still in business in the nanosecond after i press enter on this post.   

C

The Man Without a Country.

its been a long time but i believe that there was a book, i think written by Robert Louis Stevenson, about a man who committed a crime so heinous that his citizenship was revoked and deported from his country.

no other country would take him.

he had considerable problems and finally regretted his situation.

i believe that this book should be required reading in schools for those who can actually read and write their own name. 

comments, corrections and amplification welcomed.

C

Congrats

Many of you have demonstrated beyond doubt that you do not understand the concept of Habeas Corpus, is place in our legal system, and it's traditions stretching back eight centuries. It's one of those big things that is supposed to make us better than the rest of the world, but only if it's upheld by all of us!

SPQR

a conviction would seem to demonstrate that they did 'have the body' of evidence.  so your point is? 

“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts