Newsweek: Islam America's 'Greatest Strength', Never Explains Why

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By Warner Todd Huston | July 23, 2007 - 09:25 ET

Outrageously, Newsweek has published a so-called "special report" in which Muslim Americans are called "one of this country's greatest strengths," but, Newsweek worries, that they are now "vulnerable as never before." Yes, America, as far as Newsweek is concerned it is YOU, not Islam, that is the problem.

As to the first claim, Newsweek offers not a single reason in their report why Muslims might be one of our "greatest strengths," but of the claim of how "vulnerable" they are, Newsweek drones on and on. Naturally, Newsweek puts the onus on Americans to bend over backward for Muslims, but doesn't once take Muslims to task for their barbarities and radicalism.

This "special report" starts out with a Muslim American from Cleveland, Ohio demanding of George W. Bush at a meeting in that city that the US take stronger measures to stop anti-Muslim sentiment from spreading in this country. "It's the young people I'm concerned with," Fareed Siddiq gravely claims.

Yes, Mr. Siddiq. I agree. It is the young Muslims who we are all concerned with as they are the ones that are most liable to wage Jihad on their fellow Americans in answer to your Muslim causes across the globe as was seen with the Lackawana Six. So, yes, Mr. Siddiq, we worry about the Muslim youth, too... but for a different, more legitimate reason than you.

Siddiq's bloviation is especially hypocritical in light of the fact that Pakistan, the country of his birth, is nearly as radical and supportive of Jihad across the world as Saudi Arabia with Pakistan ranking as one of the world's most active terror exporting and supporting countries.

Newsweek goes on to claim that Muslims in the USA consider themselves "Americans", not radical Muslims. But, Newsweek fails to bother balancing their report with so many easily found anti-western speeches by Muslim Imams across this country. From the Nation of Islam to the common Muslim Mosque radical speeches are far more common than Newsweek wants to let on. Granted the anti-western ranting here is not yet nearly as bad as it is in Europe, still, like elsewhere in the world, we see few Muslim Imams forcefully standing against terrorism and radical Islam.

Newsweek next approvingly quotes the first Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison of Minnesota, about how great this country is, wholly skipping over his recent claims that we are like the Nazis. In fact, this Newsweek report is filled with glowing praise for American Muslims with little said of their lack of denunciation of terrorism.

One thing that the magazine says, though, is too true.

It wouldn't be too much of an exaggeration to say that on September 10, 2001, the Muslim American universe was largely invisible. The only Muslims most people here knew by name were Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan and Muhammad Ali. If their doctor or accountant was Muslim, the average American probably didn't give it much thought.

That nonchalance cost this country nearly six thousand dead and counting. So, yes, in the 9/10 world, few Americans paid much attention to Islam. It cost us dearly, too.

But of radicalism here in the states, Newsweek tires its best to tone it down or turn away from discussing it. For instance, of the replacement of a more moderate Imam in Quincy, Massachusetts with a new one, all Newsweek can muster is that he was replaced with a "more conservative Imam." But they do not bother to inform us what that might mean. What does "more conservative" mean? Why do they not take time to explain why the previous Imam was "moderate" and the next one “more conservative?” Do they want to avoid something here?

Next this "special report" ridiculously seems to blame Americans for the increasing numbers of Muslim women who are now wearing the veil here in the USA post 9/11.

The relative peace that came with invisibility disappeared after 9/11. When Muslims became objects of fear, "people who had never recognized and seen themselves as Muslims had no choice but to see themselves as Muslim," says Muzaffar Chisti, director of the Migration Policy Institute at the New York University School of Law. Young women who had never before worn the traditional Islamic head covering—and whose mothers saw it as a symbol of the backwardness they had left at home—put on the veil. According to a 2002 study from Hamilton College, more than a third of Muslim American women now wear the veil every day.

So, we evil Americans have somehow forced Muslim women to begin degrading themselves and wearing the Muslim veil? What absurdity!

Then there is Newsweek quoting a Muslim in California who imagines that Islam is "under assault" by Americans in the USA. "Where do I stand?" they quote Razi Mohiuddin, a native of India, as saying. "Either I walk away from the faith or I become more involved in defending the faith, which [is] under assault."

Nowhere in this report, however, does Newsweek prove that raving Americans endanger Muslims, nor do they show statistics that convincingly prove they are increasingly in danger anywhere in this country. Newsweek does lovingly praise CAIR for attacking American traditions and laws, as well as approvingly cites American Muslim's attempts to combat "discrimination" here, though... again all without citing any statistics to prove this supposed growth in "discrimination."

To their credit, Newsweek does wonder aloud about the dangers of foreign Imams coming here from radical countries like Saudi Arabia, but seems to claim that no effect from their radical teachings has taken root. The concerns expressed by Newsweek about foreign Imams, however, seem to be the only sensible warnings in the entire self-flagellating story.

Also to their credit Newsweek deflates the canard that only being poor or uneducated leads to radical Islam, an idea that conveniently forgets that the 19 hijackers of 9/11 were middle class or well off Saudis. Poverty certainly didn't lead to their heinous acts. Islam did.

The most amazing thing about this "special report" is that even in this story all the hate, fear, ignorance, fire and danger seems to be coming from Muslims in America, not the rest of us. They even quote the American born son of a Muslim from Bangladesh as saying he was glad 9/11 happened. The boy is quoted as saying, "... I remember thinking that I didn't care that it happened. A lot of my friends didn't care. I think it's because we're Muslim." Yet all the while, as Newsweek cites such dangerous talk and separatist feelings among Muslims in America, they are claiming that it is the average American, rather than the Muslims living here, that is at fault. They refuse even to heed their own evidence that their finger pointing at America is in error. They refuse to even broach the possibility that Muslims might take responsibility for their fellow's evil actions.

Where, Newsweek, is your call for Muslims to stand up against terrorism as a community?

No, to Newsweek, the average American is just a racist, hater.

In the end, this "special report" seems more like an apologia for radical Muslim reactions, fear mongering on their part, and a general desire to fall back into their own, enclosed communities while tsk tsking at non-Muslim Americans for their evil, racist attitudes.

But, one thing is certain. Newsweek’s report certainly makes one understand how easy it was for this country to ignore the things that led up to 9/11 and reveals that we are headed right back to a 9/10 attitude, paving the way for the next outrage perpetrated by these "discriminated" against Muslims to occur.

So much for Muslims being one of America's "greatest strength." Newsweek makes the claim but doesn't spill one drop of ink to prove it.

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To Hell with Newsweek.

This "special report" starts out with a Muslim American from Cleveland,
Ohio demanding of George W. Bush at a meeting in that city that the US
take stronger measures to stop anti-Muslim sentiment from spreading in
this country.

I have a better idea. If Mr. Saddig and his fellow Muslims are truly concerned about anti-Muslim sentiment in this country, then why do not he and his compatriates start speaking out and condemning the atrocities being committed by their fellow "peaceful" Islamists. Their silence in this area leads me to conclude that they essentially condone the actions of the more "radical" elements of their religion...I'm sorry, political movement.

I have just about had it with these people. If there is one more major attack in this country that is carried out by Muslims, I am going to be one of those calling, quite loudly, for rounding them up and deporting them. Every last friggin' one of them. And don't tell me it can't be done, either.

And if the pro-terrorist anti-American propagandists at Newsweak don't like it, they can all line up and plant one on my lilly-white, infidel American behind.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

It can't be done. Civil

It can't be done. Civil liberties are guaranteed by the constitution. The first amendment isn't getting repealed any time soon. Don't expect  to see the same thing that the government did to the japanese in WW2.

Being muslim isn't a crime and never will be. At least not in this country. Calling for the deportation of all muslims is conferring guilt by association and that is something that goes against all principles of this country. Don't give in to knee-jerk reactions that give the slightest credence to the article in question.

Nit picking

I know that I am nit picking here, but the Germans they picked up stayed in concentration camps until 1948. The Japanese were out soon after the end of the war. They picked up both Japanese and Germans. The Japanese just have a better press machine.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Italians were also given

Italians were also given the same sorry treatment.

mvfreeman, If these

mvfreeman,

If these people are not US citizens, and I suspect many of them aren't, the First Amendment does not apply to them. Nor do any other constitutional rights.

We have mosques right here in Atlanta that are handing out literature in support of Islamic terrorism. I hear no howls of protest from the members of the Muslim community, here or anywhere else.

What is more, we are now being told by the C.A.I.R. crowd, along with the idiots in the ACLU and the Democrat Party, and by some even in our own government, that we aren't even allowed to report any suspicoius activities on the part of these people.

That is an unacceptable situation to me as an American

Of course, we can all sit around, wringing our hands and hoping there are no more attacks. I promise you, if there is another major attack by Mulsims that kills a large number of Americans, you are going to wake up in a very different country the next morning.

This pandering by our government to the Islamic community has gone on long enough.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

You may want to read

You may want to read this:

http://www.answers.com/topic/aliens-rights-of

If they are here legally they have nearly identical rights.

Of course there will be exceptions based on circumstances. And those will be applied to individuals not entire groups of people.

Then we are screwed as a nation.

I knew they had some rights, but I didn't know they went that far. 

This was one of the things that ultimately destroyed the Roman Empire. Looks as if we are going to suffer the same fate, brought on by those who are not even from here.

How sad.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

  I fear the American press

  I fear the American media more than I fear American Muslims.

Amen to that, brother Our

Amen to that, brother

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

What?!

We have a press in America?

I've about had it too!!

I've been thinking about this problems quite a bit lately, but I couldn't put it any better than Dave R. did!!  Way to read my mind guy!  Thanks!

Another "report" urging us

Another "report" urging us to stick our collective head in the sand.

I have yet to meet anyone who harbors ill will towards muslims. However, to deny that these radicals are motivated by the muslim religion is to deny reality.

This is good thinking -

This is good thinking - these terrorists are "Muslims" just like my friends linked down below are "Christians"

All decent Muslims, Christians, etc, etc must vocally and vehemently expose and confront our own factions-gone-astray on a daily basis... 

Gay haters unite!

Stop the violence!

Stopping the violence would be a good first step towards integrating into the USA.

Also, it wouldn't cost them anything to condemn the violence. They aren't even willing to do that, so I totally doubt their sincerity.

 

 Wrong

Oh, but there you're wrong BG. They do have much to lose by condemning the radicalism. If they condemn it, and the radicals win, they die. If they don't condemn it, and the radicals win, they say they supported it all the time. Keep in mind, their religion, regardless of the "religion of peace" spin, promotes conversion by the sword. They have absolutely nothing to gain by speaking out against the fanatics. They are getting more and more support from non-muslims on a daily basis, so why stick their necks out? It's a win-win situation for them.

As for the arguments for and against deporting Muslims subsequent to another major attack against the US, I agree that it would never happen. The law is against it, and even if it weren't, the politicians and hanky-stomping liberal press would never allow it.

I'll tell you what I think could happen though, if this absurd liberalism towards Muslims continues and they prepetrate another major attack against us - Muslims will become hunted. The people will take their security into their own hands, and will create such a holy war the Muslims never dreamed of. Americans are slow to react and quick to forget, but once pushed to their limit, are unstoppable.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

Muslims being hunted is a

Muslims being hunted is a scary scenario. BTW how do you spot a muslim if they can be any ethnicity?

I agree that people will do their own racial profiling in public places such as planes and other areas that have been targeted by terrorists. That makes sense.

There would have to be a complete break down of the rule of law for any group to become hunted. Reminds me of the pogroms of the past. We are better than that.

 

Muslims being hunted is a


Muslims being hunted is a scary scenario.

You mean Muslims who don't believe Israel and the US should be destroyed, right? You are talking about the "good" muslims?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I meant that people being

I meant that people being hunted purely for the fact that they are muslim or any other religion is not a rational response to the acts of a few deranged individuals.

The islamic terrorists may be stuck in the middle ages but we have moved on.

So then muslims who believe

So then muslims who believe Israel and the US should be destroyed could or should be afforded at least a little extra scrutiny? I don't have a problem with that. Do you? Not hunting but certainly extra scrutiny.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I agree

Oh, I agree that it's scary. But with the predilection towards accommodation quickly forming in this country, and with the potential for those very people pushing such accommodation coming to power, it's not so far-fetched a possibility. With Clinton, Pelosi, Reed, Kennedy, Schumer, Dean, et al, in charge, and with their pitiful record on both law enforcement and national security, people could very well take the law into their own hands, as the "rule of law" would be non-existent, or at best, selectively enforced. And keep in mind, EVERY ONE of these power-hungry royal wanna-bees has at the top of their collective agenda the disarming of all Americans. What a turkey-shoot they would create for terrorists!

This is a far-worst-case scenario, but taken to the extreme, with rampant Islamic terrorist attacks in the US, minimal protection afforded by the government, security apparatus handcuffed by PC rulings, and no support from any official agency, it could happen.

As for identifying them, the Nazis didn't have much trouble identifying Jews, even they looked the same and spoke the same language for the most part. Besides, Muslims, at least initially, would identify themselves through dress, prayers, or in many other obvious ways. After the first few thousand were shot in the streets by "radical Christians" or strung up to the nearest tree or lamppost, they would likely lower their profile a bit.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

How dare you question the

How dare you question the "strenght through diversity" meme!  You must know that different is better (except when different is white and/or Christian and/or anything that doesn't benefit Liberals).   You need to attend "diversity training" (aka Cultural Marxism Re-education).

"Islam America's Greatest

"Islam America's Greatest Strength"

Yep, I agree. Nothing brought Americans together faster and stronger than the Islamist attack on 9/11. It indeed has been our greatest strength.

  Hello All. Good to be

 

Hello All. Good to be back-sea duty calls...Anyway here's an article sent by an Australian friend. Can't find the source, but if this was true, can we Americans grow some cajones and take back America??? Good read...

 

 Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesdayto get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic s tate, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another  Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,that's a better option", Costello said. 

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the  other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.

Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by  saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or  Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are  offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on  Bali. We have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of  Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the  'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia .

However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to  understand. This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.

And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own socie ty, our own languageand our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,  trialsand victories by millions of men and women who have sought  freedom" 

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,  Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly  documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means,  keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come  here.You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted." 

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EXCELLENT

This post is awesome.  If we could get some officials over here to grow a pair and say something like this, maybe we could be done with all this islame bullcrap.

 

Texas has a population of nearly 21 million people, all of whom are ashamed to be from the same state as the Dixie Chicks. (IMAO.us)

There are several websites

There are several websites with that story. Apparently Howard made the remarks in the summer of '06.

This is a no-brainer for

This is a no-brainer for me:)

Muslim's are indeed one of our nation's greatest strengths - along with fundies like me - due to our enormous devotion to God and His virtuous way of life:)...

Like a stopped clock Newsweek gets it right once in a while - for the wrong reasons...

Gay haters unite!

Regarding "It Can't Be Done Here - Read the Following America

 

The Defense Authorization Act of 2006, passed on September 30, empowers President George W. Bush, and subsequent President’s, to impose martial law in the event of a terrorist “incident” or if he or other federal officials perceive a shortfall of “public order” or even in response to “protests” that get unruly as a result of government provocations.

On October 17, 2006, 'a date which will live in infamy'.  The first was a public signing of the 'Military Commissions Act of 2006' which suspended habeas corpus allowing the president to declare you an 'enemy combatant' and end your rights to seek legal or judicial relief from unlawful imprisonment.  Congress passed the Insurrection Act in 1807, severely restricting the President’s ability to deploy the military within the United States.

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 tightened these restrictions, imposing a two-year prison sentence on anyone who used the military within the U.S. without the permission of Congress.

But there was a loophole: Posse Comitatus is waived if the President invokes the Insurrection Act. "On September 28, by a vote of 65-34, the Senate formally passed S. 3930, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA).  The next day, the House of Representatives followed suit, passing the act by a vote of 250-170, . . . [whereby] "alien unlawful enemy combatants ... [to be] subject to trial by military commissions" without the constitutional safeguards American citizens possess against illegal detainment and judicial railroading." As far as an American citizen is concerned the definition of the term 'unlawful enemy combatant' has ominous import for them. The law states: "(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al-Qaeda, or associated forces); or (ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the president or the secretary of defense."(6) "Notice that this definition contains no exception for Americans; it throws the blanket over citizen, permanent resident, and illegal alien alike by using the word 'person' rather than 'alien'."(5)

'The Military Commissions Act of 2006' is a violation of Article 1, Section 9 of the U. S.Constitution which states: "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it." Section 1076 of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from Insurrection Act to Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the President could deploy troops within the United States only “to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.” The new law expands the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition”—and such “con- dition” is not defined or limited.  The new law also empowers the President to commandeer the National Guard of one state to send to another state for up to 365 days.

Bush, or any President could send the New York National Guard to disarm the residents of Mississippi if they resisted a federal law that prohibited private ownership of semiautomatic weapons. Governors’ control of the National Guard can be trumped with a simple presidential declaration.

The story of how Section 1076 became law demonstrates how expanding government power is almost always the correct answer in Washington. Some people have claimed the provision was slipped into the bill in the middle of the night. In reality, the Administration signaled its intent and almost no one in the media or Congress tried to stop it.    

“Martial law” is a euphemism for military dictatorship. When foreign democracies are overthrown and a junta establishes martial law, Americans usually recognize that a fundamental change has occurred. Perhaps some conservatives believe that the only change when martial law is declared is that people are no longer read their Miranda rights when they are locked away. “Martial law” means obey soldiers’ commands or be shot. The abuses of military rule in southern states during Reconstruction were legendary, but they have been swept under the historical rug.  

 So you do not “believe it can happen America. 

Keep your head in the sand Infidels, watch American Idol, MSN, ABC, CNN, Fox News, any publication issuing from “The Multiple Media-Political Oligarchy-Academic-Military-Globalists-MultiCultural-PC-Industrial Complex.

 

Or by the way do you know what the Security Partnership and Prosperity "Act" is going to do?

 Cheers,

Scott 

 

Thanks, this morning over

Thanks, this morning over coffee I was telling my wife that we need to fear our own government much more than those pesky terrorists. She said "yes dear" and kept reading the newspaper. She's never going to get it. 

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Reality: 1 Talking Points: 0

MightyMouth: 1

Hawthorne: 0

""(i) a person who has

""(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al-Qaeda, or associated forces); or (ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the president or the secretary of defense."

Makes it clear that it would be done on an individual basis because of acts committed not because of default membership in any social group.

Part of section 1076: "a)

Part of section 1076:

"a) USE OF ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.–
(1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the
National Guard in Federal service, to–
“(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United
States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or
other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or
incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the
United States, the President determines that–
“(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent
that the constituted authorities of the State or possession
are incapable of maintaining public order;

So unless the state government of Mississippi ceased to function the president isn't sending the national guard to do anything.

Ultimately, the laws of the U.S. are in our hands.

mvfreeman,

Just remember one thing:

The law is ultimately in our hands, not the Government's.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

That's why we have the

That's why we have the Supreme Court to decide what laws are constitutional and which aren't.

When people start taking the law into their own hands it can cause major problems like what we are seeing in Iraq and what happened in Mogadishu. It breaks down the social fabric needed to keep things from reverting back to the era of warlords and gangs that we as a society left behind a while ago. That's  why so many people are immigrating to the U.S. They want to be a part of a civilized society.

Balkanized

I agree.

However, The United States of America is intentionally being Balkanized.

I worked and lived all over the world in the last thirty years, as an exploration geologist.  I know first hand what war lords are.

One of the many countries I did live/work in was Zimbabwe.  Please for your own enlightment vist the following website:cathybuckle.com, The Truth about Zimbabwe.

"Balkanism": If one dose not think/belive so, then please live in Los Angles, Mexifornia.

Or live Derborn, Michigan, i.e. Derbornistan.

Cheers,

Scott    

  

 

mvfree

I take huge exception to your statement:

When people start taking the law into their own hands it can cause major problems like what we are seeing in Iraq and what happened in Mogadishu.

Would you kindly explain how "people" took the law into "their own hands" in Mogidishu?

The last I heard, we were there at the behest of the then CIC, your dear friend Bill Clinton, who abandoned the troops at the first hint of trouble.....after denying their commander the tools with which to do the job properly in the first place.....go in at night, with the support of an AC130 gunship....and properly backed up.

So please, do explain your POV.  How was it that "people took the law into their own hands created problems."

You're full of crap.  Now prove to me that you're not. 

You have ten minutes to search the DKOS talking points before YOU LOSE.

And if you choose to duck THAT question, prove to me why we should let these third world losers into our society to rape and pillage, and then be turned loose because there's no translator to represent them in our courts of law (refer to Fox News story this a.m.  Google it yourself...I'm not doing your work for you).

Okay, tick tock.

Right On

Number one: I have not taken the time nor effort to read anything on the "DKOS", sounds like a bunch of communists.

What I am saying: Enforce existing immigration laws, deport illegal aliens, imprision employers of illegal aliens, deport anchor babies of illegal aliens, build an impenetratable double concrete wall, ENGLISH ONLY.  AMERICA IS NUMBER ONE.

Maybe you missed the point. From first hand personal experience, I have lived and worked in thrid world "counties" run by war lords, i.e. one of many  being Angloa. If you belive Mogaidishu is bad, the country of Anglo has been like Mogidishu for thirty years.

Both Bill Clinton and Queen Hillary intend to advance a socalistic agenda, as such are enemies of The Rule of Law, The Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights.

Cheers 

Hawthorne,I think we're

Hawthorne,

I think we're a tad wrapped around the axle here.

My "taking exception" was to MVFREE.

Everything you've posted above is exactly my POV.

So, sorry for the mix-up.

I was curious as to how the "Mogidshu Mile" was the fault of the American people, and not that POS that was the CINC at the time. 

I think you and I agree....at least, hoping so. (yep....checked it out....our posts are underneath each other...meaning we're responding to the same stupid poster and not to each other, here).  Whew!

Looking forward to a real conversation....you sound like my kind of person!

Regards.

 

Right On

 

Yes, fellow patriot.  I messed up.  In the future, mutual collaboration will be enlighting.

If you have not visted: cathybuckle.com, The Truth about Zimbabwe, please do and pass the word.  

Cheers,

Scott

Hawthorn

cathy buckle link

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.  

Thank You

I am new to "commenting on the web".

Regarding "The Truth Abount Zimbabwe" , read  http://www.cathybuckle.com/july2007.shtml.

Cheers