Tony Perkins Column: Same-sex Media Bites Off More Than It Can Skew
Do a majority of Americans really support gay marriage? "Maybe not," the Washington Post admits. For years, headlines have screamed that society is open to redefining marriage. But every time the theory is put to the test, it's proven wrong. As Daniel Horowitz says, the only authentic polling data is votes at the ballot. Thirty-two times, voters have gone to the polls in some of the most liberal states in America and rejected counterfeit marriage--most recently in North Carolina, where a constitutional amendment won by 22 points. Now that President Obama has literally made a federal case out of marriage, the reaction is even more severe.
Although the polling has been manipulated for years, even some media elites are conceding that the support for same-sex "marriage" just isn't there. Yesterday's CBS/New York Times survey showed that only 38% of Americans agree with the President's position. An ABC News/Washington Post poll backed up the trend, pointing out that 47% responded unfavorably and 46% responded favorably. But, analysts say, the real story is in the intensity gap. According to the Post, those numbers include " a 10-point tilt toward 'strongly' negative (38%) rather than strongly positive (28%) views." Independent voters were especially opposed, with most leaning toward a strongly negative reaction.
How have liberals managed to inflate the numbers for so long? "For the most part," the Post says, "the polling out there is combining the civil union and gay marriage responses together to get their 'majority' supporting gay marriage. There's a reason why the same-sex marriage ban passed in 32 states..." And those amendments (and a people's veto) haven't just passed--they've had overwhelming support. Republicans should be tripping over themselves to champion marriage. Instead, they're racing to change the subject on an issue that won an average of 67% of the vote in a supermajority of states. No wonder voters are annoyed. Ignoring marriage isn't just spineless--it's politically naive. Americans care about the economy and marriage. Surely, the GOP has enough time to fight for both.
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The Left is on course to disintegrate every facet of family
Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 5:44pm.
values. The Feminazi Left has strived for many years to minimize the role of men in marriage or relationships, as well as criticize the stay-at-home mom.
Whether it is aborting babies, pushing "discrimination of women, minorities, gays, race, etc.", or redefining marriage, the Left is making every effort to destroy moral excellence and everything good.
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Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 6:01pm.
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Who are you going to believe....
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 5:59pm.
CBS and NYT or those lying voters?!
Liberals know the truth. The facts are a conspiracy.
I hate to tie this issue back
Submitted by Shreve on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 6:48pm.
I hate to tie this issue back to race, but imagine for a moment had the civil rights acts of the 1960s or the Emancipation Proclamation had been put to a popular vote in their days.
How would the nation be different of they had?
If nothing else, we did get the 14th Amendment, eventually, due to the latter.
Not going to happen
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 7:04pm.
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation and the 14th Amendment (and the 13th and the 15th) were the result of massive quantities of blood spilled.
Sorry, that just isn't going to happen over "gay marriage".
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Say What?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 7:06pm.
I was just getting around to believing being black is the same as being a homosexual.
Amending the Constitution
Submitted by Ajtlawyer on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 8:03pm.
The analogy is no good---Amendments to the Constitution are never conditioned on a popular vote. Amending the Constitution is an extremely difficult thing to do---which is exactly why it's been amended only 28 times in over 200 years despite thousands of proposed amendments. Each chamber of Congress has to approve the amendment by 2/3 majority and then 75% of the state legislatures must approve it before it is part of the Constitution. The Civil War amendments were passed, as another poster said, after tens of thousands of people gave their lives to end slavery (there will never be that sort of commitment for gay marriage). Every single state ultimately approved of the amendments and in fact the Confederate states were not allowed full status in the Union until they did approve of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Most certainly had there been a popular vote to do away with slavery nationwide it would've passed. The Southern states knew that with the admission of more free states that they could not stop the Constitution from ultimately being amended to end slavery, thus their principal reason for secession.
Bah
Submitted by Shreve on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 8:21pm.
I need to learn more of my history before I make any more comments on this.
Thanks for that.
Question:
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 9:15pm.
When did the 28th Amendment take effect?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
the cival war amendments
Submitted by searcher0 on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 8:15am.
the death toll for both sides in the civil war was actually 618,000, making this the worst war for the American military.
I fell for it again!!!
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 7:05pm.
I am so-o-o-o-ooo gullible! When will I ever learn? I'm really living up to my name on this.
I mean, I actually BELIEVED the spin that SSM had the support of the majority (allbeit, a slim one) of Americans. I was fearful that the U.S. may have reached a tipping point, and that our last best hope of defending marriage was lost.
Now I learn that the polling was skewed with a poorly defined question.
Sure a majority (allbeit, a slim one) supports some kind of state-sanctionned relationship of a homosexual couple, but NOT NECESSARILY MARRIAGE!
Heck, I would go so far to say that even I could favor such an arrangement... under specific circumstances, but never, never, NEVER call it a marriage!
Am I ever a dunce! Will I ever learn NEVER to trust the lying liberal media?
Thank you Mr. Perkins, for setting me straight (pardon the pun) and reaffirming my hope that the traditionalists still has a chance with marriage.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Don't fall for...
Submitted by mejay on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:01am.
The semantics game the left wants to play either. I don't know if you are a Christian or not, but listen. Marriage is a special institution. Yes, it has been weakened in today's society, but it is the standard that must be upheld no matter what. If what you and others propose in extending SS couples "rights" but not calling it marriage, is still marriage none-the-less, we will still be faced with the problems calling it marriage would produce. This has to really be thought out throughly.
I married my husband, not soley because I loved him. I love my mother. I married my husband not because I wanted to visit him in the hospital. I married him because, along with love and affection, the relationship would be a physically intimate one designed by God to bring forth offspring. THAT is why marriage exists. I know some heterosexual couples choose not to or cannot have children, yet reproduction is the potential in that marriage that CANNOT exists in the homosexual relationship. So in essence, society's recognition of marriage fosters an environment the gives the family privileges and responsibilities and recognizes the importance of healthy families as the foundation for a healthy society.
These ideas need to be weighed heavily before any "rights" are extended to non-marriage couples.
Counterfeit Marriage?
Submitted by Qtaug on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 4:34am.
I love the tag!
Such pansy-asses in the GOP...
Submitted by mejay on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 9:42am.
to quote that foul being, Dan Savage (aptly named). They are so full of fear they won't articulate the reasons to keep HOLY matrimony confined to that original design -one man and one woman. If they would do that, many more could see the importance of not sanctioning same-sex coupling. Yes, let those who insists on perverse sexual practices do so in the privacy of their own homes. But when you bring it out into the public square and ask me to put a stamp of approval on it and to recognize it as on equal footing with REAL marriage, I say HELL NO.
And another thing. Why does the desire for homosexuals be able to visit thier "partners" in the hospital require them to be married? I am sure that arrangements can be made through the hospital or other legal means to get that privledge extended to unmarried loved ones. I didn't marry my husband in order to go see him in the hospital. Come on, man!
Oh GOOD LORD!
Submitted by chiefpayne on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:22am.
LOGIC ALONE would indicate that a majority of American DISAPPROVE of same sex marriage!
If for NO OTHER REASON than the fact there are 30 states who have State consitituional amendments AGAINST it.
I've known for YEARS this claim was BOGUS.
Oh and BTW, the poll given by DoD about the repeal of DADT? That TOO was bogus as the questions were SKEWED to try to get soldiers to answer that repeal would cause NO prolbems. And frankly, it's ALREADY STARTED causing problems NOW...but the military is keeping it low-key...and the press isn't interested in telling about them.
I like...
Submitted by mejay on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:31am.
and appreciate your post. I also believe what you said about the military is true. Think about a real manly-man in service having to deal with open homosexuals in the military. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. In more ways than one.
...wish there was a "like" button.
I did my own "poll"
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Thu, 05/17/2012 - 12:08pm.
wherein I tallied the results in each state that put same-sex marriage on the ballot, what I got was that the total of all voters who weighed in on the ballot measure (again, the total of all the votes in all the states that posed the question to voters), 38% approved of gay marriage, where 62% disapproved. I've got the numbers in a spreadsheet at home, but that seems pretty conclusive to me.