Barone, With a Message the Press Will Black Out: Wisconsin Is 'In Play in November'
Alternate title: "Surprise (Not): Barone Exposes How Exit Poll Samples Are Typically Biased."
Early this morning, at the Washington Examiner, Michael Barone casually put out what is apparently a well-known fact in polling circles. I'm thinking that it's not at all well-known to the general public (bold is mine):
But if you think the exit poll (from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, showing a dead-heat race earlier in the day -- Ed.) was 4% too Democratic—and that’s in line with exit poll discrepancies with actual vote results over the last decade, as documented by the exit poll pioneer, the late Warren Mitofsky* — that result looks more like 49%-47% Romney. Or assume the remaining Milwaukee County precincts whittle Republican Governor Scott Walker’s margin over Democratic Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett to 53%-47%, which looks likely, the Obama-Romney numbers would look like 48%-48%.Story Continues Below Ad ↓
Really? Supposedly "random" exit polls are skewed 4% Democratic? Who knew?
The explanation of Barone's asterisk:
Mitofsky found that the biggest WPE, Within Precint Error, where exit poll results tilted most heavily toward Democrats compared ithe (sic -- it appears that it should say "with" -- Ed.) actual vote, were in precincts where the interviewers were female graduate students. Go figure.
Well, there you have it. I guess exit polls will continue to skew towards Democrats as long as female graduate students do the polling. So maybe we need a demographic breakdown of polling personnel before we can evaluate a poll's credibility.
What's interesting to me about this (maybe not to anybody else, but work with me on this) is that I definitely recall the networks telling us for many years that exit polling wasn't "random" at all, but instead was based on polling at "key precincts." When did it change to "random"?
It turns out that some people, like the person writing things up here at MSNBC's FirstRead, who specifically refers to an example involving 50 "key precincts," that it's still how things are done. Apparently not, according to this research paper, which says that the "key precincts" approach went away in 1986. But the First Read item does raise the valid point that the candidates favored by absentee and early voters my differ from those favored by Election Day voters.
Zheesh. What a mess. That would argue for not bothering with exit polling at all.
Barone makes perfect sense when he claims that Wisconsin is in play in November, no matter what the rest of the delusional press wants us to believe.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Since he's just guessing that femalre grad students...
Submitted by CarlosS on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 5:22pm.
skew the polling I come put forward my own guess.
My guess is that the early exit polls heavily favored Democrats because those folks had to vote early, and get their free lunch and pack of cigarettes before boarding the DNC/Union supplied bus ride back to their home-states. /humor off
In MI the UAW supplies. Hot
Submitted by Zippy on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 5:57pm.
In MI the UAW supplies. Hot dogs, chips, beer, and smokes....and a free ride to the polls.
But, you have to buy those stickers. "afraid of losing your job? Keep buying foreign".
I think, they are talking about Wally World............Since all companies are using foreign products and machines to build cars.........
Indeed
Submitted by Mr. Bishop on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 5:49pm.
And here is something that I found annoying today: Blatent, outright lies by CNN today. I was sitting in for someone on Staff Duty today, and CNN was on. They made the comment, several times in fact, that the exit polling of the Recall Election yesterday, showed that Walker won by 7 points, and that Obama was favored over Romney, 51%-44%. What is TOTALLY erroneous, as everyone is aware by now, is that exit polls showed the Recall Election at 50-50, a difference, in total, of 7 points (53%-46%). When you look at that, then apply the formula of stupidity to their favoring of Obama over Romney, you get a MUCH closer look, as you see above. It just annoys the hell out of me, that CNN blatantly lied about that, and anyone who didn't actually pay attention to the election that night, doesn't know the truth.
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The CNN ticker at work. On
Submitted by Zippy on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 5:59pm.
The CNN ticker at work. On the lunch room TV. Has not changed in 3 days.......
I have found Barone's
Submitted by gopsteve on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:00pm.
I have found Barone's predictions to be extremely accurate. On Election Night, his is the analysis I make sure I do not miss...
Barone is pure gold on any
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:47pm.
Barone is pure gold on any election night. No spin, just facts.
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I'm for no exit polling~
Submitted by GG_NB on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:02pm.
I'd rather people just vote and we get a "surprise" when the results come in -- the exit polls seem more and more unreliable lately. I did not appreciate what happened with them last night.
Basically, it's become guessing with limited and sometimes misleading info (certain types more apt to talk to pollsters/others lie/poor sampling/timing problems). Then we also have to depend on the integrity of pollsters we don't even know.
I would never go discuss my vote with a pollster. I consider it a private matter and would be moving along my way. I would be happy to see the exit polls GO.
P.S. I tried to find Barone on TV last night. I always listen to him.
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Demoncrats Perfect Record So Far...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:07pm.
Wrong about 2010 Midterms....
Wrong about Walker in Wisconsin...
Three for Three in November...
Funny Time
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:59pm.
I flipped back and forth between the 3 News?? channels. Most hilarious thing was watching Cnn try to explain their worthless Exit Poll results. But then they kept using them. No wonder they are in last place.
Romney will win Wisconsin and...
Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 7:47pm.
...N. Carolina, and Ohio, and Michigan and Colorado and possibly Arizona and Florida (heavy illegal population ripe for fraud is the only hesitation).
Obama has NO IDEA the size of the tidal wave headed his way.
The making of a red state?
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 06/06/2012 - 9:54pm.
In reality, WI has been in play for a long time. Remember that in 2004 WI went to Kerry by only a few thousand votes.
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