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Unreported: Private-Sector GDP Still Smaller Than When Recession Began

By Tom Blumer | December 23, 2011 | 14:05

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Yesterday at my home blog, in the wake of Uncle Sam's reduction of third-quarter growth in gross domestic product (GDP) from an annualized 2.0% to 1.8%, I predicted that the establishment press's reaction would be the following: “Yeah, but the fourth quarter will be 3% or more. It really, really will be. Please believe us.”

Martin Crutsinger at the Associated Press made that easy prediction come true 48 minutes after the report was released. He and the rest of the establishment press also missed something far bigger, namely that yesterday's small GDP reduction brought its private-sector component back to a level below where it was at the beginning of the recession, no matter how you define that beginning. Excerpts follow the jump:

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Economy grew more slowly in summer than thought

The U.S. economy grew more slowly in the summer than previously thought because consumers spent less than the government had first estimated. But economists expect growth in the current October-December quarter to be stronger.

The Commerce Department says the economy grew at an annual rate of 1.8 percent in the July-September quarter. That was the fastest growth this year, up from 1.3 percent in the April-June quarter. But it was down slightly from last month's estimate that the economy was expanding at a 2 percent rate in the summer.

The government now estimates that consumer spending grew at a 1.7 percent annual rate last summer, instead of 2.3 percent. The updated estimate reflects data showing less spending on hospitals.

Economists think the economy is growing at an annual rate of more than 3 percent in the final three months of this year. That would be the fastest pace since a 3.8 percent performance in the spring of 2010.

Among the positive factors are a brightening job market, strong holiday shopping, further gains in factory production and cheaper gas prices, which leave consumers with more money to spend on other items.

Stronger growth would be needed to significantly drive down the unemployment rate. Unemployment did fall to 8.6 percent last month after remaining around 9 percent for 2 1/2 years. The rate is now the lowest since March 2009, two months after President Barack Obama took office. Unemployment passed 9 percent that spring and had stayed there or higher for all but two months since then.

Marty's message: "Hey, things were really pathetic during the first three quarters of this year. But they're really okay now and getting better. Trust us." Though the linked report is still available at the "hosted2.ap.org" site, the AP's main site doesn't have it. It's been revised and replaced by a report yesterday evening from Crutsinger and Daniel Wagner which concentrates far more on yesterday's report on initial unemployment claims, and holds out the possibility that fourth-quarter growth might be an annualized 4% (write that one down, and save it for the end of January 2012 -- and then the end of March after subsequent revisions).

Here's the proof that the private sector is still smaller than it was before the recession began, regardless of whether you think it began after the second quarter of 2008, the normal definition, which requires at least two consecutive quarters of economic contraction, or after the end of 2007, the subjectively determined beginning point according to the National Bureau of Economic Research (third quarter 2011 value is from Table 3 at yesterday's full release; 4Q07 and 2Q08 are shown here; figures are in 2005 chained dollars):

GDPprivateAndPublicTo3Q11at122211

Additionally, as Investor's Business Daily graphically pointed out several months ago, the nine quarters it has taken the economy as a whole to get back to where it was when the recession began (as seen above, by the barest of margins) is three times longer than during any other post-World War II recovery. Also as seen above, the government component of GDP is up by over 2%. Broken down but not shown: Federal, +15.3%; State and local, -9.4%.

If we were seeing this kind of thing happen during a Republican or conservative administration, we'd be seeing historical references like the above invoked constantly by the establishment press. Instead, we get stone cold silence concerning references to the past, and Herbert Hoover-like "big improvements are just around the corner" utterances from a press looking desperately for meaningful improvement where what we have at best are decent early signs of it.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

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Good times are just around

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 2:30pm.

Good times are just around the corner. All we need to do is give Obama at least 4 more years.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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JUST 1 BUDGET BILL QUESTION

Submitted by reelman46 on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 3:25pm.

Obama Signs $1T Spending Bill for 2012
December 23, 2011...Associated Press
WASHINGTON – President Obama has signed a $1 trillion-plus 2012 spending bill that sets the day-to-day budgets of 10 Cabinet agencies.
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SO MY ONE QUESTION...DOES THIS BUDGET BILL INCLUDE "THE BASELINE" THAT ADDS 7% OR SO FROM LAST YEAR?
SEE IF ANYONE ON TV OR ON RADIO EVENS THINKS OF THIS...
another question that follows...Is STIM rolled into that as part of "the BASELINE"??

 

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish<

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Baseline - well, sort of

Submitted by Fredy on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 5:59pm.

They are claiming they stopped the baseline increases in this part of the budget - but then they shifted the emergency funding out of this bill and into a different one so it nets an increase.

Of course, this was BEFORE they spent the 250 billion by unanimous consent this morning. Now if anyone thinks that the 2 mo extension will be paid for they are complete idiots. The democrats will demand more taxes on the hated rich, the republicans will refuse to increase taxes on anyone. The extension will be pure deficit spending which is exactly what Pelosi would have done. I have no idea what the point was of ever having Boehner as speaker.

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Obama has delivered!

Submitted by Fredy on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 6:09pm.

In one of Obama's early speaches after the inauguration he promised that his administration would permanently end the bom and bust bubbles of the past!

Obama has thus far prevented any sort of economic growth bubble!

Of course, the insane deficit spending that will destroy the economy at some point in the future is not something Obama cares about.

As for these reported GDP numbers, I suspect the only actual growth is from the massive government spending of borrowed money. If one were to take the 1.5 trillion of ANNUAL federal government cash redistribution out of this equation, the total failure of the Obama administration would be breathtaking!

This generational theft is the Obama legacy.

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Tom, looks like Derek Kravitz got the message

Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 9:05pm.

Did you see this piece?

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Yes ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Fri, 12/23/2011 - 9:57pm.

... I don't want to say anything that will make Derek a pariah among his peers. :-->

My only quibble is that he leaves readers with the impression that new-home sales could conceivably end up higher in 2011 than 2010 when he writes that "December would have to produce its best monthly sales total in four years for 2011 to finish ahead of last year's total."

That monthly sales total will have to be 44K or more (actually 43K, thanks to prior-month revisions). November was only 22K not seasonally adjusted. The Indy Colts have a better chance of making the playoffs than the new-home industry has of selling 43K homes in December, which would be the highest total in any single month since mid-2008.

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They have become experts at distraction and obfuscation...

Submitted by antiObamunist on Sun, 12/25/2011 - 12:13pm.

I suspect the next tactic will be to report "new housing starts" up dramatically. This is a practice of home builders to announce "starts" at year end, even though no one is ready to buy, it just means they pulled permits to build. These statistics are always announced with canned video of construction crews busily framing a new home. What a joke.

" Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are benificent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. Justice Louis Brandeis
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Tom, The good news is that are more homes for sale, :-)

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/25/2011 - 5:38pm.

Ain't there some new math, that would show, sumthum like... 'more homes to be sold as sales volume grows'.
Maybe if you drop the prices...
http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/home-price-index-j...

http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/new-residential-home-sales-incre...

Views of wealth destruction.
4 years ago was, the Buuuush years. Yea....I do .... miss you now...still.

One more year of shovel ready in/on ice...no cooler job than pouring concrete in the winter. Bump up them home sales, like a frost heave. Sure things will level out in spring.

You Didn't Build That.

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The most recent average price ....

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 12/25/2011 - 5:58pm.

... looks like it's a tiny bit lower than the previous 2008 trough. 

That's consistent with the news that sales of new homes of 750K or higher came in below 500 (i.e., they rounded down to the nearest 1,000, meaning zero) for the fourth month in a row and the ninth out of the past eleven. The lack of sales at the high end is bringing down the average.

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Tom, Better bring cash.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/25/2011 - 6:55pm.

There are easily 500 homes for sale on this Island (Maui), in this price range. WoW... lau lau.
500 in the entire Nation, now that IS scary.
So which will devalue faster, a (big) sack of hundreds, or real estate? At one time here, home sales here were 50% cash deals.

You Didn't Build That.

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The Percentage of the Private Sector Economy Is Smallest Ever

Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 12/24/2011 - 3:39am.

The Percentage of the Economy constituted by the private sector in 2010 and 2011have been the smallest on record. Since the Records go back to and include 1928 it is possible to conclude that this economy is the worse ever.

These numbers also do not correct for the economic deflator that is created by the rediculus cost of living index calculations. The whole GDP is infact going down and the Private sector is a slowly shrinking percentage of that. Gold has become the defacto currentcy standards because the politicians would rather die that tell the trueth as to actual inflation.

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I would be genuinely interested in ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:25am.

... links to support your assertions.

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I don't have links...

Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:31am.

But anyone who buys the groceries regularly can tell you inflation has already hit. We are spending more and getting less.

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That's for damn sure

Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 12/24/2011 - 12:35pm.

You ain't kidding, Rad, if anyone hasn't noticed THAT, they are either woefully ignorant of how the currency value works, or they have someone else do their shopping for them and aren't watching the expenditures.

Someone might say "seems like we are spending more" but no, there's no "seems" about it.  We ARE spending more.   Hell, I had a surplus in my savings, but now I've lost half of that due to costs of living going up.  I've cut back on so many things, and yet it seems like it doesn't have an impact.  And someone might say "oh gas prices are coming down" but come on, they are still around $3 a gallon, that's still too much, adding to the costs of everything else going up to compensate.  Even some eateries are increasing their prices a little bit.  Jimmy Johns, a sandwich place that delivers(and one of the things I cut back on), added delivery charges plus raised the prices of their sandwiches by 50 cents just in the last few months.  Word has it they will do it again.  Good thing they have a loyal customer base, but how long would that last?

Yeah, inflation's here.

-Jon

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Boom and bust no more

Submitted by seven on Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:52am.

Obama goes for steady bust and no boom.

He did a head fake and inferred the healthscare would be a boom. We knew it would choke growth and it did. it will choke growth even more.

Obama planned on a carbon bubble. Bubbles are good for a few on the way up. His bubble of carbon tax burst before it started.

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