WaPo's Kessler Exposes Biden's 'Absurd Claims About Rising Rape and Murder Rates'; Elsewhere, a Near Non-Story
In June, when yours truly last blogged on a Glenn Kessler piece (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog), the Washington Post's "Fact Checker" was calling Barack Obama's claims about the accomplishments of the auto-company bailouts "one of the most misleading collections of assertions we have seen in a short presidential speech." He gave Obama's claims three Pinocchios ("Significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions").
Today, Kessler went to four Pinocchios ("whoppers") on Vice President Joe Biden's claims about the prospects for a rise in rapes and murders if the $35 billion section of Obama's "American Jobs Act" devoted to "saving" public-sector jobs doesn't pass. NB's Noel Sheppard did a great job on the "macro" aspect of Biden's bogus claim this morning. Kessler's clean-up has to do with Biden's supposed exemplar, the city of Flint Michigan, where the Vice President claims that murders have doubled and rapes have tripled in the past year (bolds are mine):
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Biden’s absurd claims about rising rape and murder rates
In the battle over the administration’s jobs bill, Vice President Biden this week has been making the startling case that more people will be murdered or raped if the legislation is not passed. His argument is that in cities such as Flint, Mich., the murder and rape rates have soared as the police force has been cut back for budgetary reasons.
When challenged by a reporter from a conservative publication about his charge (see video below), Biden stood his ground and said without more money, “murder will continue to rise, rape will continue to rise, all crimes will continue to rise.” As he put it, “Go look at the numbers.”
Okay, challenge taken. What do the numbers show?
... Murder did go up—though the rate did not double from 2009 to 2010, as Biden claimed. But rape has gone down. Biden actually asserted it had tripled.
... Interestingly, Flint Police Chief Lock has repeatedly asserted that cuts in staffing had little effect on the crime rate.
As the Flint Journal reported in May: “Officials said the fact that 46 police officers were laid off last year had little to do with the escalating crime. Most of the crimes were between people that knew each other. ‘No matter how many officers we have, we can't stop disputes between two people in their own homes,’ Lock said.”
... the vice president should know better than to spout off half-baked facts in service of a dubious argument. Even if one believes there is a link between crime and the number of police—which is debatable and subject to many caveats—there is no excuse to make the dramatic claim that more people will die or be raped without additional funds for police. When making such a breathtaking charge, you had better have your facts straight.
Four Pinocchios.
The press has had over a week to report on and investigate the veracity of Biden's assertions, the likes of which would almost certainly be far more prominent news if a conservative or Republican had said something similar. So here's a roundup of the quite light coverage:
- The "as expected" news is that WaPo itself referred to Kessler's work in two other places. But Erik Wemple also accused Human Events videographer Jason Mattera of a "sneaky little maneuver" for daring to ask if threatening an increase in rapes if a bill doesn't pass is appropriate behavior for a Vice President. At the paper's Plum Line blog, Greg Sargent tersely noted Kessler's work and FactCheck.org's Biden takedown.
- At the Associated Press's main national site -- searches on "Biden rape," "Biden rapes," "Biden murder," and "Biden crime" (not in quotes) return no results.
- The same four searches done on the past 30 days at the Los Angeles Times ("rape," "rapes," "crime," "murder") return either no results or no relevant results.
- At the New York Times yesterday (on Page A27), Robert Pear avoided Biden's specifically mentioned locale by writing: "Mr. Biden said that because of police layoffs, 'murder rates are up, robberies are up, rapes are up' in many cities." What about Flint, Robert?
Thus far, with some Democratic defections, hasn't passed. WaPo's Sargent is all hot and bothered that the media isn't universally denouncing Republicans for being in the way, when the fact is that a few Democrat defections made the vote 50-50.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Submitted by grammajane on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 9:27pm.
he became vice pres how?? He better include his demo buddies in the rape remarks. They also voted naynaynaynay. Are his hair plugs hooked up to what brain he has left
THE GAFFMASTER STRIKES AGAIN...
Submitted by JPTSO3 on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 1:03am.
Joe Biden is such a hoot. I love that guy (actually I loath him). He angrily claimed that if Obama’s Jobs Bill isn’t passed, the Republicans will be responsible for more murders and rapes. Let’s forget that murders and rapes are down. Those are just silly facts and statistics… what I really love about the Gaffmaster is his apparent inability to comprehend what he’s actually saying.
Biden said: “It's not temporary when a woman is being raped and a 911 call comes and a cop shows up to prevent the rape…” Huh? The woman is being raped, but if the Jobs Bill is passed, cops will apparently show up to prevent rapes that....ah, are already in progress…? Apparently Biden saw that awful Tom Cruise movie Minority Report too many times and thinks cops (hired by virtue of Obama’s Job Bill) will go back in time and prevent rapes...that already happened.
Biden also said: “It’s not temporary to the guy whose store is being held up and there’s a gun pointed at his head if the cop shows up and he’s not killed”… huh? Again, Biden with the movie theme stuck in his hair plugged dome. He must think Dirty Harry is real and there are Inspector Callahans routinely sitting across the street eating hotdogs and will rush in to save the day and blast the bad guy – Does anyone with an IQ over room temperature believe that cops prevent store clerk murders? Does the Gaffmaster really believe that store clerks with guns pointed at their heads will be looking for a cop to come through the door and save the day? I would bet my house that, in the history American criminology, (with likely millions of store robberies where a thug used a gun) that a uniformed cop saving a clerk from being gunned down is about as common as winning the lottery, twice. Only in Dirty Harry movies, and the vapid head of Joe Biden do such scenarios play out.
Biden ended his absurd rant with “Give me a break!” – Indeed Joe, give us a break and maybe give yourself a break go watch a movie, and shut the hell up.
Joe... "I gots ta know..." are you really this stupid?
Blame game
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 6:43am.
Even when it's the Democrats fault (that this bill didn't pass) the game is 'blame the Republicans'.
What a stupid, childish, petty argument they use, but, apparently it works, because many Democrat voters are just plain stupid.
Joe Biden
Submitted by packman on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 8:25am.
is the biggest loser dork to ever occupy the office of VP. He would be even more of an embarassment if his ineptness wasn't being overshadowed by Teleprompter-Boy.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
DC has the most cops per
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 8:33am.
DC has the most cops per capita of any city in the US. DC has the highest crime rate of any city in the US. What does that tell you?
rick, you know if Joe was
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 10:26am.
rick, you know if Joe was confronted with that pesky fact, he would claim that it's STILL not enough.
Negativity reigns supreme
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 10:06am.
Biden's hypothesis is that Americans will commit more crimes simply because there are fewer cops. Shame on you, Joe. His assumption that Americans are opportunistic criminals waiting to take advantage of circumstances is absurd. A true leader would advocate that Americans are generally law abiding people regardless of police presence.
You are correct
Submitted by StarAZ on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 1:03pm.
First, studies on community policing do not show a correlation between cops on the street and rape--rape is rarely on the street and rapists aren't checking for a cop first. And secondly--why should local police be paid by FEDERAL tax dollars? Most places and most crimes--crime is falling. Now is Biden going to tell us crime is rising because people have to rob to get money since there are no jobs? That is another of those "intuitive" so-called facts that are nonsense.
Biden would love to run for the Presidency in 2016.
Submitted by Thalpy on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 10:13am.
A Biden/Pelosi ticket may be in order. Both should only be released for supervised visits.
wrong thread. sorry.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 10:24am.
wrong thread. sorry.