Was Obama's 'Intercontinental Railroad' Reference Lifted from Previous Identical NYT Errors?
It's probably not much of a stretch to believe that Barack Obama and his speechwriters frequently peruse the New York Times in print or online.
Their likely affinity for the Times may explain why the President referred to the "intercontinental railroad" in his speech yesterday in Cincinnati near the Brent Spence Bridge:
Now, we used to have the best infrastructure in the world here in America. We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad, the Interstate Highway System.Story Continues Below Ad ↓
Of course, "intercontinental" means "between or among continents; involving two or more continents." The railroad to which the President referred was actually the "Transcontinental Railroad."
It turns out that the President's gaffe is one which New York Times writers have committed frequently enough that one can believe that Team Obama picked it up from them, as seen in the results of this Times search on "intercontinental railroad" (in quotes). Four of the five erroneous uses of the term have occurred since Barack Obama took office:
- In February 2009 at the Economix Blog ("Revenge of the Rust Belt"), Harvard professor Edward L. Glaser wrote: "As the Rust Belt declined, the Sun Belt grew. An intercontinental railroad, the Panama Canal and then the highway system made the West Coast accessible, and people flocked to warmer weather."
- In June 2010 in an Artsbeat column, Allison Amend, who took pride in being an NPR listener, wrote of "the construction and subsequent development of the intercontinental railroad."
- In November 2010 ("One Way to Trim Deficit: Cultivate Growth"), Times Economics writer David Leonhardt (who, as an aside, imagined that the manufacturing sector of the economy was in recession in February 2007 when it wasn't) wrote that "Federal science dollars, meanwhile, led to the creation of the intercontinental railroad, the airline industry, the microchip, the personal computer, the Internet and numerous medical breakthroughs." By the way, the "federal science dollars" which Leonhardt says led to the transcontinental railroad came from "high- caliber engineering training programs funded by the United States Army" -- presumably provided by colleges. That's like crediting the government for inventions developed by students benefiting from the GI Bill. Give me a break, David.
- Finally, in a role reversal, on January 26, 2011 ("After Detour, a Map of America’s Journey"), Matt Bai described the President's State of the Union speech -- "Mr. Obama delivered a narrative of American life that evoked images of Depression-era murals and cold-war newsreels, rather than hammering away at specific laws he had passed or planned to propose. He harked back to sputnik, the Apollo project and the intercontinental railroad." Trouble is, in the actual SOTU speech (text; video), Obama correctly referred to the "transcontinental railroad." In this case, the Times made a correction.
Remember these examples the next time liberal elites at the Times, in academia, or in the Obama administration try to pretend that they are presumptively better than their readers, students, and the governed, respectively.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Dumb a*****
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:06am.
*rolls eyes*
However, this latest gaffe brings me within 16 of my goal, a whole beautiful 100 gaffes. Keep them coming, Obama!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You must not be counting
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:36am.
Bitme's or Pelosie's?
No, Boudin....
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:16am.
Only President Downgrade's Gaffes.....that is quite enough to keep after, don't you agree?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Obama has made numerous major gaffes
Submitted by cbeyer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:01am.
BUT THE MEDIA WON'T COVER THEM. And no, he won't be the subject of late night comedy shows....
Strangely....the media had a lot of fun with Bush's gaffes and derisively covered them. Double standard...do you think?
We also built
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:13am.
the Continental Divide and the Intergalactic Pipeline. Enginuity is a real stronghold in America.
Yep,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:35am.
I remember when they dug the Grand Canyon so the Colorado would not form another Great Lake
It is true dammit...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:26am.
How the hell else are the 59 states connected? The names of the Intercontinental Railroads are: Reading, Pennsylvania, B&O, and Short Line! There used to be a Crazy Train, but Bite-Me rode that one off of the rails somewhere in Delaware!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Zi-YSW3aQ
http://vodpod.com/watch/476557-ozzy-osbourne-crazy-train
Good one...
Submitted by Jarhead68 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:45am.
Semper Fi...
Donk. Wippow.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:50am.
Please before I lay me down to sleep, don't let me say something wronglyish in the presence of Mr. Blumer. Amen.
You'll be ok there bud...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:14am.
As long as you don't get elected POTUS, claim that you are a genius, and then say the most ridiculous things.
"My Muslim Faith" "Corps(e) man" "Toast the Queen" Fret over the "Bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor" Blame cops for "acting stupidly" Make a trip to "Cominsky Park" to ugghh... Throw out the first "pitch" http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6365664n Break tradition and wave during the UN photo shoot: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/21/obama-flubs-photo-op-by-block... Actually know how many states comprise the United States of America....
Nope. You're good. Blumer won't be reporting you to attackwatch!
Sleep well.
http://newsbusters.org/forum/topic-discussion/handy-reference-guide-obam...
Actually the photo thing is out sir.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:20am.
Fox News showed it the other morning. He was still while all the photos for the shoot were snapped. At some point, the President got a little tired of all the picture taking and was raising his hand to say enough guys.
The other stuff, yep, dead on.
No he wasn't...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:42am.
The photographer told the group to raise their hand if they thought obama should be re-elected. But I admire his lack of self-discipline and your excuses for him. Everyone else there seemed to have the stamina to survive a brutal photo shoot...
Of course FOX showed it. MSDNC has it buried under the Solyndra story, the Fast and Furious story, the Lightsquared story... If it were that stupid Bush though....
I say this with respect, Vet...I was no Sir. I worked for a living.
USMC....
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:47am.
I've been on it for a while, now.
Obama's Goofs and Gaffes.
If you can identify any more, any time, please give me a shout!
I am determined to get to an even 100 by the first primary.
Thank you, and good night!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Please.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:38am.
I am not making excuses. They showed the video Friday morning on Fox & Friends. It went down exactly as I described. There were the usual 50 photographers and a million flashes. And even for the worst President ever, at one point you say "enough guys, you got your picture" and he put his hand up to say stop. That was it right there.
Vet, I'm going to disagree
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:49pm.
Just like everything else, I don't believe it for a second. It's the White House walk back. "Stop" does not look like a wave. Do you see a cop waving in the intersection when the traffic light is out? No. You see them with their arm straight out front, palm rigid, thumb up....not like the Queen waving (as Obama did).
If that was a "stop", Obama does a cop stupidly. Que'lle crap.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Considering the goofy grin Obama was sporting---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:02pm.
in the pic, I'd say someone had just asked "Does anyone need a bathroom break?"
MD
Obama is left-handed folks...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:23pm.
That is his dominant hand, and if he were "objecting" to being worn out by camera clicks, he would have raised his DOMINANT LEFT HAND...
Maybe Hillary was right after all... If the me-ssiah cannot handle press photo shoots, how the hell can we expect him to handle a crisis at 3 am when he is getting his beauty sleep?
"Hi! You have reached the White House. The me-ssiah is resting his weary brow. Please leave a message! If this is Uncle Omar or Auntie Zeituni, I will have bail arranged in the morning!" "the cops are typical white folks, acting stupidly, and we know just how white folk will do ya'..."
So much for barry awarding himself the "Courageous Restraint" medal!
It must be tough carrying all that gray matter.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:29am.
Being a genius and all.
I would be willing to bet
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:40am.
that a CORPS MAN told him on a visit to the 57th state.
hbno....
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:44am.
I still swear, I heard this first, and posted it on a NB open thread....
MB replied, and about fifteen minutes later, Rush basically repeated what we both said.
CORPSE MEN.
We now have a special education President....isn't that special?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
How do we know
Submitted by Tjexcite on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:43am.
That his speechwriters don't also just write for the New York Times. As they work for the times they only can use it, its op-eds and its opinion pages for sources.
Obama is a proud man, he oten
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:14am.
Obama is a proud man, he oten fondly recalls when his uncle helped liberate the Auschwitz death camp in england during the Great War.
Now tell me again about how this idiot was a professor and is the smartest guy in the room.
If you intend to accuse someone of idiocy for relating factual
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:08am.
inaccuracies, it would be advisable to familiarize yourself with the truth before doing so.
Jer
Snarky Jer
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:44am.
Trollin the NB's tonight. Sleep might make you feel better.
Wow.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:22am.
At least you only wasted a few sentences. That article tried to waste at least 10 minutes of my time. The man got the wrong concentration camp. Period. It was a gaffe. Period. There. Now, does the St. Petersburg Times pay by the word or....
Yes, Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:34pm.
Obama was mistaken about which camp his great-uncle had entered during WWII. On the other hand, Lam Son claimed Obama said the camp was in ENGLAND! That was not just a gaffe, but an absurd misrepresentation of what Obama actually said.
Jer
BTW...I'm not saying Obama hasn't made gaffes and plenty of them, but that was one of the less egregious and was flagrantly mischaracterized by Lam Son.
I missed that. Sorry.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:59pm.
Point -- Uncle Jer.
PS: I reread his post. He said the Great War. As a professor of history, you should know the Great War was the name of World War I prior to the second Great War known as World War II.
I will subtract a tenth of a point for you missing that. And give myself four tenths of a point for catching that.
And I will subtract 2 points from Lam Son 719 because I read about that operation in my VFW magazine and mentioned it to him. Response - crickets.
Jer, that's like saying my
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:15am.
Jer, that's like saying my uncle was in the March of tears when he was in the Bataan Death March. My uncle was in the Bataan Death March btw. They boy is stretching the truth.
Are you referring to the Cherokee "Trail of Tears" which
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:38pm.
took place over a hundred years before the Bataan Death March? If so, your analogy is ridiculous.
Jer
So the truth would be closer
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:59pm.
So the truth would be closer to...
"My uncle helped liberate a concentration camp that no one in this generation has any frame of reference for so ....I will simply insert the name of the most well know concentration camp and hope that no one calls me on my BS"
And i just love the whole "relating factual inaccuracies" line..if that isn't the most "respectable" way to describe someone "lying their a$$ off" I don't know what is.
My uncle ERr great-uncle..Definitely over-uncled
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:02pm.
Is that the same uncle in the attic?
You Didn't Build That.
Negative, The Pickle...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:25pm.
The truth would be closer to exactly what was pointed out in the St. Petersburg Times: That Obama's great-uncle was with the first American unit which helped liberate one of the concentration camps at the Buchenwald complex, which is what Obama represented except that he said "uncle" and not "great-uncle" and Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald.
Lam Son claims Obama has been often fondly recalling how his uncle liberated the Auschwitz death camp in England. Is Lam Son relating a factual inaccuracy or "lying his ass off"?
Jer
I guess its all in how you
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:04pm.
I guess its all in how you define lying as opposed to being "mistaken". You have a tendency to attribute any "factual inaccuracy" spewed out by President Obama to him being "mistaken" or that he "mis-spoke" or that "he was tired" or any of a great number of excuses offered up for this Presidents seeming inability to be "factually accurate" on a great many occasions.
I on the other hand tend to believe that if you establish a pattern of being "factually inaccurate" time and time again, one would tend to give you a little less than the benefit of the doubt as to whether or not you "mis-spoke" or, would be more likely to believe that for the sake of dramatic rhetoric and a good sound bite, you were purposefully mish-mashing the "facts" to give your narrative more "weight".
The fact remains that President Obama did in fact say that his uncle liberated the Auschwitz concentration camp. He said it out loud, and he said it on camera.
You call it an honest mistake.
I call it a "possiblely" half-true account of his 'great uncle' assisting in the liberation of the Ohrduf camp, In I will even give you that he said "uncle" even though he meant to say "great uncle".
But had he told THAT story, it would have carried much less "rhetorical weight" than having a relative being involved in liberating Auschwitz, the most notorious and well know of the Nazi death camps.
So He decided to go with soaring rhetoric instead of "factual accuracy".
And to say that President Obama "often relates this story" and to include that it was in England?
All I can say is that I could find no reference that would lend "factual" credence to that assertion.
However, since I have heard many on the left dodge accountability for their BS with the "I was just engaging in satirical exaggeration" I tend to want to give Lam the benefit of the doubt and call it satirical exaggeration in an attempt to make a point.
bama was "tired"...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:02pm.
When he raised his non-dominant right hand to stop the grueling photo shoot. He was tired when he forgot his daughter's birth date and age. He was tired when he referred to himself as a muslim. He was tired when he said cops acted stupidly. He was tired when he said 57 states...
Come any given Sunday, the bastard isn't tired enough to play 18 holes of golf now, is he?
Journalist and pundit Christopher Hitchens published an essay in The Nation titled "Why Dubya Can't Read", writing:
"I used to have the job of tutoring a dyslexic child, and I know something about the symptoms. So I kicked myself hard when I read the profile of Governor George W. Bush, by my friend and colleague Gail Sheehy, in this month's Vanity Fair. All those jokes and cartoons and websites about his gaffes, bungles and malapropisms? We've been unknowingly teasing the afflicted. The poor guy is obviously dyslexic, and dyslexic to the point of near-illiteracy."
Guess the Godless liberal could re-submit the very same thing about Obama today, except the title would have to read, "Why the teleprompter makes Obama read wrong!" Or "Obama, the leftist that refuses to be right, about anything!"
Unless we misunderestimate the me-ssiah, of course...
So, Jer...
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:18pm.
So, Jer, Obama had it right even though it was the wrong camp and the wrong uncle? Ok, and three from four equals five.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
No, Cobra....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:49pm.
if you were paying attention, you would know that neither the St. Pete Times nor I said any such thing. However, Obama's statement was far closer to the truth than was LAM SON's. [BTW, you aren't seriously suggesting that saying "uncle" instead of "great-uncle" was a grievous blunder or bald-faced lie, are you?]
I noted a few months ago that I went to school with Davy Crockett's great-great-great-great nephew, but I think he MAY have been only his great-great-great nephew. I regret the possible shocking misrepresentation.
Jer
Nice strawmen
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:13pm.
Nice strawmen, Jer. But, please, explain to me just what the hell Lam Son has to do with Obama's gaffs? Or you and Davy Crokett's great-great-great-great nephew, for that matter? Other than trying to divert attention away from Obama's obvious mistakes, that is?
Obama got both the uncle and the camp wrong. That's two gaffs in the same statement. The only thing he got right was the war.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Cobra...do you have the slightest clue what constitutes
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:25am.
strawman argumentation? I don't believe you do. At least your post doesn't indicate you understand the term. So, why don't you familiarize yourself with the fallacy and then come back and point out my "nice strawmen". Then we can move the debate forward.
But I will note this: If LAM SON is going to accuse Obama of being an idiot for making a misstatement, don't you think it's only fair that he ACCURATELY quotes the statement in question, and describes in what respect it is erroneous? I do. And I believe most reasonable persons would agree with me.
Jer
LIBERAL TROLL ALERT! DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:54am.
Jer... (Shorthand for Jer-koff?)
How about accurately quoting any republican that you liberals smear? No candidate on the 2012 primary stage said to "let him die" yet you liberal retards spin it out of control.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/09/13/chris-matthews-fal...
As you wrote above, "And I believe most reasonable persons would agree with me." That is liberal OPINION and not actual fact.
Only liberal idiots like you make such brazen assumptions. Let me use your idiotic accusations against you in your own liberal phraseology:
"Most liberal persons are not reasonable, and many Americans agree with me."
This would be conservative opinion, which is NEVER stated here by any conservative, as it is not a fact.
It is a tool liberals use to distract and demonize the opponent when the facts fail the argument. You have no correct facts and are full of liberal opinion and accusations.
Now, liberal retard, prove that negative. You can't. Mediaite misses you and you need to head over there to get your NB posting medal.
USMC8411---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:09am.
Jer, while not a liberal troll, is most definitely a house liberal.
He can be most infuriating when expounding upon his liberal ideology.
I some times wonder if there is any conservative hereabouts whose patience he hasn't tried, at one time or another..
MD
Jer is a resident troll...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:33am.
period. "Trying patience" gives the troll way too much credit. It is amusing to see how a fact or a point that the troll cannot defend/prove, gets deflected to a personal attack or some crazy misguided assumption, as I said in my post, which you even evaded. The giveaway is as I said "Most people agree with me" is written, when posts in NB support or provide further proof of the issue being debated. Until a troll drops bombs in posts.
I watch MSDNC religiously because it is amusing, and to see the liberals sit and spin, but most importantly to note which stories they do not cover. Predictably, trolls like Jer-koff end up posting the same liberal talking points from MSDNC here. Trolls do not argue the article and/or the facts it contains. They push full steam ahead in forwarding the MSDNC agenda.
Coservative posters here are extremely tolerant of these diverse and misguided opinions and at a certain point, get bored with the talking points and distractions.
I mean troll in the original term: "The troll phenomenon is heavily based on the "LULmining" concept, seeking victims for harassment and delivering unspeakable inconveniences upon them for the sole purpose of building tensions beyond stress threshold, resulting in a "troll success event."
You confirmed that definition. There is no room here for an agitating house liberal. That's what huffpo, mediaite, etc are for.
USMC
Submitted by kata on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:44am.
the only people who can make the command decision as to who can post here or not are the people who run this board.
Jer can be contentious, but it seems that so can you.
Thanks, kata...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:56am.
Jer
no prob jer
Submitted by kata on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:16pm.
The discussions that come about around you give me days, if not weeks of new reading material. ;)
And I continue to accrue knowledge about myself...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:26pm.
very interesting variants of my name, for example.
Jer
crap like that annoys me
Submitted by kata on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:42pm.
I make it an absolute point to never name call. It just makes a person look less intelligent and petty. But somehow I think you've gleaned more than just that in your 4 yrs here.
I wouldn't still be here if I hadn't...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:56pm.
Jer
Not that you haven't deserved it.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:04pm.
A******.
Kidding, Jer. Just kidding.
NIce.
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:51am.
You come in here and do exactly what you are accusing Jer of doing.
"Jer is a resident troll...period." That is YOUR opinion.
You posted about Jer with some irrelevant BS about opinions. You forgot the unmitigated fact that opinions are like @ssholes: "everyone has one, and they all stink."
If you are going to state your opinions as facts, perhaps you should refrain from crying like a b#tch when others do so. Rest assured, we can tell the difference.
USMC8411---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:01am.
I evaded nothing.
Out of respect for the USMC label you carry; and the fact that I have enjoyed every post by you but one, I was merely voicing my opinion of Jer while explaining that he is not perceived around here as being a troll.
Your "original definition" of troll does not describe Jer. If you choose to believe otherwise based on your time and trials on these threads, it's no skin off my ass.
Based on my experiences with Jer, after over two years of continual sharpshooting at one another, I will also say that I confirmed nothing in the way of your preferred definition of troll.
I have argued with the man countless times; and while he is generally a supreme liberal pain, he is not a "textbook" troll.
No good deed goes unpunished; that's what I get for trying to spread some light instead of just letting you continue on your merry way.
MD
Thanks, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:54am.
Relentless foe and linguist par excellence.
Jer
No problemo, Jer;---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 8:38pm.
though it is indeed sad that there is too often collateral verbal damage visited upon each of us, as noble warriors for the cause we believe in.
Forsooth, but 'tis only electronic.
And fleeting.
Damn; I was temporarily channeling ol' Hank Mud.
Sorry 'bout that. :o)
MD
Not to agree with most people....
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:00am.
...but Uncle Jer was correct way way way way up this thread. The guy put the camp in England. That is 12.667 times more egregious an error than the getting the name of the camp your uncle helped liberate.
Kinda hard to troll when you are correct.
Wow, the Jer-koff slam
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:15am.
How original.
There are many reasons to quibble with Jer, but being a troll isn't one of them. He may be misguided, apologetic to the liberal cause, clinging to a fact devoid belief that southern racists suddenly became residents of the party of Lincoln, counter to their inclinations, and worst of all, a LIBERAL, but he is no troll.
Hhmm,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:26am.
Thats about as close to a troll definition without being a troll as I have ever seen. : ]
Heck, I think the world of Jer. He's like a comfy pair of ol slippers, that you have to hide from the wife, for fear she will throw them out. Not that I have ever had an ol pair of slippers. because I have kids who buy them every Bday and Xmas. But, if you could just vision what I am saying, I am sure you will comprehend what I mean.
I understand completely, Boudin
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:31am.
Jer is irksome, sometimes outright grumpy, quick to defensiveness, infatuated with his own opinion, etc...
But definitely not a troll. He will engage in debate, even when he has long been proven mistaken. trolls run for cover when confronted with irrefutable facts, but ol' Jer here, he will tilt at them windmills till the cows come home.
(You appreciating this defense of you character yet, Jer?) :)
I agree
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:44am.
Jer does engaged in debate, that in it's self means he is NOT a troll.
Uncle Jer is gimpy, slumpy, disheveled....
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:16am.
...odd, weird, woe begotten, sad, lonely, wait.... Where was I going with this?
He is a cross between the description of a pencil neck geek in the pencil neck geek song and Chevy Chase's description of his boss in the rant found in the Christmas Vacation movie.
He is mean, cantankerous, twisted, hard to get along with.....
I kid. Uncle Jer is no troll.
Don't stop, Vet..
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:45am.
I was getting myself all worked up into a full-blown lefty rage so I could tear in to you maniacs.
Jer
Jer is definitely not a
Submitted by celator on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:22am.
Jer is definitely not a troll, and adds a lot to the discussions.
Thanks very much, celator...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:38am.
Looks like I'll be expanding my Christmas list this year.
Jer
There's a spot on my desk for
Submitted by celator on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:04pm.
There's a spot on my desk for an Ipad2. It would fit there perfectly. ;+}
You're a good dude.
What a
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:22pm.
Suck up.
; ]
Well, celator, coincidentally my son had put in the same
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 09/26/2011 - 9:24pm.
request for this Christmas. But, what the heck, he can wait another year.
Jer
WOW.. I say again...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:57am.
I mean troll in the original term: "The troll phenomenon is heavily based on the "LULmining" concept, seeking victims for harassment and delivering unspeakable inconveniences upon them for the sole purpose of building tensions beyond stress threshold, resulting in a "troll success event."
Jer's beliefs are wrong and he continues to agitate instead of debate, which has been said here, to frustrate others. I do not use it because I disagree with the liberal, but as stated, when the liberal deviates and changes the subject, the liberal is a troll agitating the posters because he refuses to accept his defeat in the argument.
Why quibble with a liberal? Especially a "repeat offender" liberal? Maybe you should check that Nugent quote or stop using it?
I don't claim the Jer-koff slam. Never did. But if the name fits...
Now you've brought my tag into it??
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:57am.
You are really off the rails here. The site's mission is to "expose and combat media liberal bias". That does NOT mean we are intolerant of liberals, or their opinions. Most here enjoy a good debate, and that would not be possible in the echo chamber you seem to wish this site to be.
More trolls have been banned from this site than I can count, some of them conservative. If one wishes to debate, and do so honestly, they are welcome. Being wrong and being dishonest are not the same thing.
Or do you believe Bush lied???
USMC...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:45am.
1. The staff of NewsBusters will be surely pleased to witness yet another member added to the roll or dishonor at the "Foul Language" forum.
2. Out of curiosity, why are you linking a blog of Noel's on which I posted not one single comment? Nor have I claimed or even remotely implied that ANY Republican candidate said to "let him die". Not here. Not anywhere. Where did you park YOUR commitment to accuracy?
3. I'm not very familiar with Mediate, but I doubt if any of the more notable liberal/progressive websites or blogs would care to have me as a commenter inasmuch as I am far too critical of too many libs to have the welcome mat rolled out for me. The following is a very condensed sampling of such criticisms culled from the threads of NB which I recently provided Redrowan:
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 9:08pm.
I'll provide you summaries of my criticisms of various liberals and the date of the post. If you still insist on links, I'll compile and post those later.
Bill Maher: 7/11/11 On the thread linked above, I called Maher's indictment of the Republican party "a sickening, despicable lie. And it disgusts me that this towering asshole continues to spew such filth."
Helen Thomas: 3/18/11 "Helen...ceased being relevant last century. Now she is notable only for her sick and shameful anti-Semitic, anti-Israel slanders"
Ed Schultz: 5/25/11 "Ed should not just be suspended but instead sidelined--permanently. His comments were absolutely indefensible"
Pelosi and Reid 11/02/10 "I've said it before and I'll say it again. Pelosi [a far left/liberal] was a miserable choice for House leader...As for Harry Reid, well...he's just a feckless buffoon." 7/9/11 I've been calling for Pelosi and Reid's ouster from leadership positions for nearly three years now due to chronic ineptitude."
Katie Couric: 11/22/10 [Re her ridiculous questions to Palin] "The woman should be released from her anchor--NOW!"
Mike Malloy: 10/13/10 "I don't understand why this demented nonentity is given free publicity." 2/27/11 "Liberals don't even bother with this sick freak" 11/11/10 referred to Malloy as a "maniac...engaging in his customary unhinged ravings..."
Michael Moore: 5/6/11 "Before I'm charged with endorsing Moore through silence, let me hasten to add 'amen' to the idiot part"
Keith Olbermann: 11/6/10 "If you had been paying any attention for the past three years, you would know...that I don't give a ratzass about what happens to Keith Olbermann."
Miscellaneous...4/16/11 Backed Governor Walker against the union 1/1011 Acknowledged [once again] that the MSM tilts left 4/5/11 Recommended that Brit Hume, Bret Baier or Chris Wallace replace Couric 6/26/11 Repeated my criticism of Obama's knee jerk response to Cambridge police incident, just as I have criticized his clinging to guns and religion comment, his attacks on Fox News, and a number of other points of disagreement with the president
So, how am I doing Red? BTW, any examples of your criticizing conservative pundits?
Jer
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/09/02/scarborough-challe...
Gosh, those opinions might even get me tagged as a CONSERVATIVE troll at the lib sites.
In any event, I've managed to survive well over four years here while watching scores of actual trolls getting summarily 'AD'ed. And I'm laying odds I'll still be here long after you're gone.
Jer
Yep, I am sure your right
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:09am.
To be fair though, to a novice, I can understand some confusion at times.
Must suck to be required to show your anti libtard credentials all the time?
Hope you know I am just pulling your chain?
: ] see, smile face
Yes, Boudin, it does suck...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:30am.
Especially after being taunted by someone like Redrowan who demanded I provide examples of my criticisms of libs, and after spending a good deal of time in the archives to accommodate him, he responded as follows:
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:26am.
"Just wanted too see if you were silly enough to jump through the hoops..."
Read more:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/09/02/scarborough-challe...
Anyway, Boudin, I appreciate your defending me against the troll accusation. You may keep pulling my chain as often as you wish.
Jer
Not to offend USMC*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:11pm.
But ,having sparred with The Jerster a few times myself, he is not a troll.
First, he does sometimes wander off the trail but unlike a true "troll" Jer does not LIE.
Secondly, Jer attacks no one for being conservative. He attacks what he believes are distortions of liberal beliefs. How can we disagree with his effort since NB exists for "Exposing and Combating LIBERAL MEDIA Bias"?
Third, Jer does have some peculiarities..(arythmomania) that we readily accept since we all here at NB are representative of "diversity".
Fourth, and my basic regular criticism of Jer, he is a lawyer. That means he will generally take an oppositional view of any topic even when he agrees with everyone which is sometimes confusing and gets Jer in hot water. Or, incites nonesense postings from NBers who have not been here long enough to understand One thru Four....
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:18pm.
This is like Christmas at NB for you! All the love is just pouring out...
I'm sure by tomorrow you and Matthew Dean will be at it again, and I will know the earth is still tilted on it's axis.
:)
He was obviously referring to...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:47am.
...the intercontinental ballistic railroad.
He's sooo smart that he has to act dumb to hide the fact that he is from another planet, called Krypton, that went super nova.
You dumb conservatives!
Submitted by pockets64 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:42am.
Everyone knows that planets don't go supernova. Everyone knows that the star for Obama's home planet is what went supernova.
:-)
Like the brilliant liberal Algore...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:30pm.
"People think about geothermal energy - when they think about it at all - in terms of the hot water bubbling up in some places, but two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, 'cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot ..."
If the interior of the earth were "several million degrees" as the brilliant global warming high priest declares, the earth would be a star! In that case.. yes... the Plah-net would indeed have a feee-vaaahhh!
And we would all be dead.
Star Wars
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:27pm.
The intercontinental ballistic railroad, didn't Reagan's "star wars" program have something like that?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
If we kept the Star Wars program...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:59am.
The MSM couldn't try to scare the rap out of us by "reporting" that satellites are falling to earth and "might/Could?possibly will/chances are better than the lottery" of being killed by the debris!
We could be blasting the space junk into as one liberal fraud wrote... A Million Little Pieces....
By the way, why are there no self-destruct device on these space school bus sized chunks of death and destruction?
It's really simple, USMC.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:33am.
No self-destruct devices because, we simply could not "weaponize" space. Some on the left just had fits when the discussion of that ever came up.
Weaponize or...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:52am.
Self-Aborting fail safes? I get your point, but if a self-destruct option could save just one innocent human life....
It could also be used in many a James Bond movie.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:45pm.
And Star Trek shows.
To The Vet... Sir...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:17pm.
They already were deployed in those movies with fantastic results! Even the USS Enterprise has a self-destruct sequence for God's sake. So much for that intergalactic, planetary, untied peace force or whatever the hell they call it!
Now you just ruined the whole franchise for me.... Stupid auto-destruct military industrial weaponizing of space....
Time machines?
Submitted by Injest on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:45am.
railroad came from "high- caliber engineering training programs funded by the United States Army" -- presumably provided by colleges.
Errrrrrrrr what? Railroads go back to Greece 6th century BC! I don't think the US Army had anything to do with that. I could be wrong but I'm not gonna look it up.
Why do libs believe in time machines?
I read one once that claimed Sun Tzu ordered his troops to “hold their fire” until the enemy got closer.
I had to point out that an order to his troops “hold their fire” would confuse the heck out of his troops cuz gun powder would be “invented” for another 1800 years.
That's 1800 years after he gave this order.
Ya can't hold yur fire unless ya got firearms, without gun powder ya got no firearms!
Seemed kinda basic to me but I not kollage edumakated.
BTW, The earliest steam railways was in England! 1811! just before the War of 1812 tween the USA and England,
o'bama, "Release those transcripts"
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:32am.
Prove that you're the smartest guy in the room. 'Cause everything you've said since graduation isn't convincing us.
BTW, a man born and raised in the United States wouldn't be making these fundamental mistakes about our country: Intercontinental railroad; 57 states; Corpsemen.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
My Muslim faith...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:03am.
It took an obama-naut journalist to remind him that he was "Christian."
I often forget my Christian faith and find myself wandering around the desert wearing a turban while riding a camel and carrying an RPG.
Huge Problem?
Submitted by Mike009 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:09am.
Intercontinental railroad? That would be a HUGE problem if that term had been uttered by Michelle Bachman or Sarah Palin. But coming from our POTUS, no probem at all.
Repeat
Submitted by Franksam on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:21am.
I think I've said this before. He's like the German spy in the movies that can't name the 1940 World Series winners.
World Series?
Submitted by Rackie on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:04pm.
without looking it up I'd guess Honduras.
The spy got executed...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:04am.
right?
There is a "consensus."
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:26am.
"Intercontinental railroad" is the correct term.
Excellent post!...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:32pm.
Brevity is indeed, the soul of wit!
Little trick to remember.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:05am.
Trans-continental. Trans meaning across.
Remember it like this
Trans as in transvestite. Across the vestite.
Ah yea
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:28am.
Makes perfect sense
Intercontinental Railroad?
Submitted by helyanwe on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:06am.
I'd never send a child of mine to Harvard or Columbia if this is an example of the people they turn out.I'll bet the only class he got higher than a complimentary D was Affirmative Action 101.Yes,it seems he is our first affirmative action president. Scary.
The only thing amiss here is that he is not female. Has anybody confirmed this besides Larry Sinclair?
Leave O'bama Alone....Hawaii has "interstate" highways.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:22am.
Well only Oahu has them , H-1, H-2, H-3.
H-3 is one of the most expensive Interstate Highways ever built, on a cost per mile basis.
So there ! It's Hawai'i's fault, er whatever.
Of course he could of said, Interstate Trains.
Gosh just a few years ago Presidents talked of going into Space.
Now just hitching a ride on a freight train seams like high technology to this Kenyan wonderer.
You Didn't Build That.
Interstate?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:23pm.
Interstate highways in Hawaii? When there are no bordering states? Man, they can't even get THAT right!
By the way, Wikistupida, that would be an intrastate highway, not an interstate highway.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Yea crazy land out here 2,400 miles left of the left coast.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:55pm.
30 years ago It took 2 weeks to get a washer from the Sears warehouse on Oahu 100 miles away.
A few months ago it took that same 2 weeks, green liberal progress. Did they drop it off at my home... No.
After this state kills a Private ferry system h/t EPA (Hawaii is the only major island group on the planet without a ferry system).
Now the state is seizing the idea of having their very own state sponsored ferry system.
That H-3 is a 6 lane highway... get this...It carries less traffic than some 2 lane highways on the outer islands.
You Didn't Build That.
I'm, surprised
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:18pm.
I'm surprised that the Hawaiian government hasn't applied for stimulus money in which to build a few bridges between the islands.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Oh yea Hawaii is at the stimulus-tit... King of Pork, wowlaulau
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:20pm.
Wind Pork, wire bridge to another island pork, and sun, and surf pork.
This project is just one of many that Hawaii is toying with to meet their renewable goals and green their energy sources. Wave energy is hotly discussed, but rarely implemented because it faces many of the same engineering difficulties of tidal power. While everyone waits for the technology to catch up to the hype of wave power
Before Hawaii was a state, the folks that scribbled out the state constitution, banned the use of Nuke power. So we are totally dependent on Indonesia for diesel fuel fired power plants and car and aircraft mobility, fueled by a moslem nation.
You Didn't Build That.
If we didn't have these...
Submitted by Rackie on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:01pm.
"I'm not a intellectual...but I play one on TV" posers, who would we have mock?
They are such large and slow moving targets.
Of course the fool got it
Submitted by jessieH on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:05pm.
Of course the fool got it wrong. He gets everything wrong. His math is twisted. He thinks we have 57 States.
57 States...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:44pm.
"With one more to go, and I wanted to go to Alaska and Hawaii, but my staff just couldn't justify it..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
Obama said he's going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states. There are 57 Islamic states. So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?
“Let’s not play games,” he said. “What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come.”
But he also said just prior to the above statement, "Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, “These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand.”
Who exactly is seen in the media throwing rocks at tanks? Muslims throw rocks and hide their hands at muslims, and at Jewish military forces when they do not have machine guns.
Interesting rhetoric, no?
Attempts
Submitted by Bob K on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:11pm.
to make "Intercontinental railroad" seem the norm and no gaffe are underway. The other night Rep. Keith "Raghead" Ellison was on the O'Reilly factor. I was making dinner in the other room, but I swear, Ellison used the term as well.
Bob, did the ignorant Ellison
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:51pm.
go on to tell the audience that the Intercontinental Railroad was built by Muslims, as their contribution to civilization? Just curious, as he does seem to wax eloquent at times about all of the marvelous contributions the Muslims have made over the centuries.
That's not true
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 2:31pm.
"Harvard professor Edward L. Glaser wrote: "As the Rust Belt declined, the Sun Belt grew. An intercontinental railroad, the Panama Canal and then the highway system made the West Coast accessible, and people flocked to warmer weather."
That's not true. The Sun Belt didn't experience a major population increase until the use indoor air conditioning became widespread in the 50's and 60's. Prior to this widespread use of air conditioning, the population of the norther states grew dramatically in relation to the southern, or even western, states. Today, that trend is reversing, but not because of a "international railroad," the US Highways system, or any other form of transportation. It's all due to the prevalence of air conditioning. You see, it's a lot easier to heat a home in the cooler norther states than it is to cool it in the hotter western or southern without the use of air conditioning.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Thanks. I thought the history ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:19pm.
... was suspect on several levels.
They're too smart
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:06pm.
These "professors" are just too smart for their own good. Apparently this professor never wondered why homes built prior to the widespread use of air condition all had open porches, even in the northern states. That was done so that people could escape the heat building up in the house all day long in the summertime. Enclosed porches didn't arrive until air conditioning showed up.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Is true. Is true. Is so very very true.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:28pm.
Iz got heat pump. All electric house.
Electric bill in winter --- Mid hundred dollars.
Electric bill in summer --- Over 200 hundred dollars.
Why?
30 degrees outside in the winter. 80 inside in the house. 50 degree difference yet cheaper bill.
100 outside in the summer. 78 inside. 22 degrees difference and yet more expensive.
Why?
Answer. Working against myself. Everything in the house produces heat. TV. Fridge. Pets. People. Stove. Good for winter. More heat to expel in summer.
I heart Cobraman.
Imagine what is was like with gas lighting
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:52pm.
Imagine what it was like in the summertime when all you had was gas lighting. Even in the northern states, it must have been sweltering! Homes, like mine, built over 80 years ago, all have rooms that are 12 to 16 feet high, as compared to the 10 foot high rooms being built these day. That wasn't done because the costs of construction was lower, or for aesthetic reasons, it was done to keep the heat generate by gas lighting (or even kerosene lamps) up and away from the occupants, all because, other than opening a window, there way no way to get the heat out of a room. It's also the reason why the windows in those homes were all double-hung. You could open the top half of the window and release some of the heat. It amazing, to me, anyways, that these Harvard Professors aren't smart enough to figure it out for themselves.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Yes.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:52pm.
And don't forget those windows people love so much. Nice to look out. But they trap the heat of the sun.
Air conditioning. I can see the argument that it made the influx to the south possible. Yes.
Oh so true
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:03pm.
I kind of wish we had no AC.....
The snowbirds would all go home. I can deal with the heat of the summer here. Snowbirds, not so much.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
cool
Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:17pm.
it's threads (and posts) like this that always keep me coming back to NB.
Intercontinental
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 2:28pm.
There are rail lines that connect Canada and America, but each country built, owns, and controls their own segment of this "intercontinental railroad," so I don't see how America built an intercontinental railroad. We merely linked up with the rail lines of other countries.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Education And This Whitehouse, A Bridge That Was Never Built
Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:06pm.
So many things that come out of this Whitehouse just grates on the ear. Does he have seven states to reach with this intercontenintal Railroad?
Hat in hand, I'm wrong.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:39pm.
Never let it be said that I don't admit when I'm wrong. I looked it up, and damn if Obama wasn't right. Built in 1879, point of departure near American Beach, northeastern Florida. It arrives some 4500 miles away at the Port of Tan-Tan in Morocco.
Sheesh, little known facts.
BK, The O'bama gang is looking for that location now.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:26pm.
I think O'bama has mentioned "railroads" more than any other president.
He likes the railroaded part.
You Didn't Build That.
Maybe Obama simply
Submitted by ant on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:23am.
Maybe Obama simply "over-suggested" the span of the railroads. Does this mean a woman who wants to be a man or vice-versa are now to be referred to as "Inter-gendered"?
Somewhere the Trans-Siberian Orchestra is...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:13am.
Thanking God almighty that obama didn't use them in the gaffe! Like everything obama touches, promotes, brackets, places a bet on... crashes!
Moochelle will book...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:41am.
...The Intercontinental-Siberian Orchestra to perform at the Whitehouse for the holidays...
Wait....there are Ramadan
Submitted by ant on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:02pm.
Wait....there are Ramadan songs?