New Term For an Obama Fib: He 'Over-suggested'
Bruce Siceloff at the Raleigh News & Observer had the task on Tuesday of writing up the results of his newspaper's follow-up investigation into the safety of bridges in the Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina area after Barack Obama's visit there last week. In a speech there, the President asserted that "In North Carolina alone, there are 153 structurally deficient bridges that need to be repaired. Four of them are near here, on or around the Beltline. Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls?"
I know this will come as a total shock to readers -- not -- but the president wasn't being truthful. Behold what Siceloff and his paper found, and how he felt compelled to come up with a new word to describe Obama's untruthful characterizations (HT to Rush Limbaugh, who brought this up on the air today):
Worry not: Triangle's bridges are safe
President Barack Obama scared some of us last week when he stopped in Raleigh to pitch his American Jobs Act.
He told an audience at N.C. State University that the nation should beef up spending to repair bad bridges - before one of them falls on us.
"In North Carolina alone, there are 153 structurally deficient bridges that need to be repaired," Obama said Wednesday. "Four of them are near here, on or around the Beltline. Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls?"... readers wondered whether there really was cause for alarm.
... DOT engineers and administrators are fielding calls about the president's remarks, too. They say the bridges around the Beltline and across the state are safe.
"The key thing is: We don't have any bridges that are about to fall," said Wally Bowman, DOT's division chief for Wake and six neighboring counties. "We don't have any bridge out there that is structurally inadequate, where it cannot handle the traffic. We make sure those bridges stay in a good state of repair."
Obama appears to have undercounted his bridges. And at the same time - employing the deft spin that political speakers use when they spice up a little information to make a big impression - the president may have over-suggested the risk to public safety.
Dictionary.com says that "over-suggest" is not a word. Neither is "oversuggest."
As one would expect, Rush had some choice words today concerning the qualify of Siceloff's reportage (bolds are mine):
There's a story in the Raleigh News & "Disturber" recently about Obama's trip there and the bridges. Last week in the Raleigh area, Obama was there, and during his speech to a bunch of skulls full of mush at a university, he said that the bridges in Raleigh were about to come tumbling down unless we passed this stupid bill. That was the message he left everybody with. Dangerous situation. Bridges, in some cases in a state of urgent disrepair, (imitating Obama) "We need to pass this bill now, pass this bill today, so we can fix those bridges." So finally ten days after he's gone the local media is starting to ask, "Well, how many bridges are in danger of spilling unsuspected drivers into the drink?" And it turns out none. The Raleigh News & "Disturber" went out and did their own survey, apparently.
Here's a pull quote. "Obama appears to have undercounted his bridges. And at the same time - employing the deft spin that political speakers use when they spice up a little information to make a big impression - the president may have over-suggested the risk to public safety." Over-suggested is how lapdog media defines lying? Obama may have over-suggested the risk to public safety? The headline of the story is: "Worry Not, Triangle's Bridges Are Safe." We all knew that they were.
... I love that Raleigh News & Observer. Obama "over-suggested" the danger of the bridges. A new away for lapdog media to define lying. Obama "over-suggested." Yeah, I didn't default on my mortgage; my bank over-loaned. No, no, no, no, I wasn't stalking that Hollywood actress! I was over-admiring. (laughing) Over-suggested. ...
... They went out and they can't find one that is in a state of disrepair. They can't find one that's in danger of collapse. Not one! I mean, this is presidential panic. This is Ted Mack and the original amateur hour. That's precisely what this is.
The competition for minimizing the reality of President Obama's words and actions in the media is fierce. After all, Solyndra, according to the Associated Press, is an "embarrassment." Heaven forbid that anyone in the establishment press call it what it really is: a "scandal" and, as described by Andy McCarthy at National Review, a "fraud."
Then there was the AP's May description of Obama's failure to comply with the 60-day requirement to seek congressional authorization for continuing to have U.S. troops involved in Libya under the War Powers Act. In this instance, AP told its readers that Obama was merely "skipping a legal deadline." Uh, no; he was breaking the law.
In July, Kevin Sack at the New York Times wrote that during the 2008 campaign and the runup to the passage of Obamacare, Obama had "mischaracterized a central anecdote about his mother’s deathbed dispute with her insurance company," leaving "the clear impression that his mother’s fight was over health benefits for medical expenses." In other words, he made audiences believe that his mother didn't have health insurance as she fought ovarian cancer, when she did. There's a three-letter word for this. It begins with "L," ends with "E," and has the ninth letter of the alphabet in the middle.
Add Bruce Siceloff's "over-suggested" howler to the list of nominees for the Obama Administration Whitewash Hall of Shame. Paraphrasing the late Roy Scheider in "Jaws" ("we're going to need a bigger boat"), when it comes to the just-mentioned Hall of Shame, we're going to need a bigger building.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Alternately...
Submitted by Chris Norman on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 7:55pm.
I prefer using the phrase "improved on the truth" instead of the more brutal "lied", but "over-suggested" works too.
I, myself, have never blatantly lied about anything. I have been known, on very rare occasions, to "improve on the truth".... :)
doubleplussuggested!
Submitted by kata on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:01pm.
;)
obama prefers the term...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 9:54pm.
Kinetic: As the Maha Rushie points out...
RUSH: I swear, this is surreal. KMA, kinetic military activity has replaced WTF, (laughing) which is winning the future. I’m sure you thought it was something else. (laughing) Kick my — has replaced what the — Okay, so I guess we’re to assume it’s not a protest anymore. It’s a kinetic assembling action. It’s not a riot. It’s kinetic thuggery action. It’s not a vacation. It’s kinetic leisure action. It’s not golf. It’s kinetic ball striking action. It’s not dancing. It’s kinetic foot action. It’s not sex. It’s kinetic Lewinsky. (laughing) I’m not drunk. I’ve been engaging in kinetic adult beverage action. It’s not an election. It’s kinetic voting action. It’s not radio. It’s kinetic Limbaugh action. Whatever. Kinetic means motion. Military means armed forces. Action means motion. Kinetic action, moving motion. And these are the smartest people in the world.
He who controls the language, controls the argument.
Good Comrades
Submitted by compguytracy on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 12:07pm.
The Ministry of Love (minlove) has approved over-suggested as being in the next edition of the Newspeak Dictionary. using the term lie, will be looked upon very poorly. All hail Big O'Brother!
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?" Orwell, 1984
Ceteris paribus
Can it be
Submitted by Anon150 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:09pm.
That the 'oversuggester-in-chief' doesn't know about the internet?
That statements can be researched, refuted and repudiated in less time than it takes to make a cup of TEA?
What a dimwitted thing to do.
Who's watching the man? Where are the adults?
This is just embarrassing.
He doesn't care
Submitted by Chris Norman on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:14pm.
He knows that the media who are in a position to refute his "over-suggestions" have no interest in researching the facts. He knows they are more interested in warping the facts to back up his over-suggestions - or, not following up on what he claims at all. He also knows that those that do bother to fact check Obama will never be given air-time on his media.
Thanks Tom!
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:12pm.
"Over-Suggest" has just entered the pantheon on my epic "Obama's Gaffes and Goofs" blog entry as Gaffe Number 83 (well, it won't be numbered that, as I have ordered them alphabetically). I'll be back later with the actual cite to the Goof/Gaffe(s).
Actually, I could get two out of this one episode, as I believe "beltline" is what one would generously call the area under Michelle Obama's Boob Belt, not that idiot parking lot/road around The Capitol.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
He was referring to the Beltline-area bridges ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:20pm.
... in the Raleigh-Durham area.
Is that what it's called there, Tom?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:42pm.
I have no idea...if that's the case, well, I'll just have to work in the Boob Belt thing another way. :D
I thought he was misnaming the DC "Beltway"....thanks for your input.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
i wonder if Moochelle---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:43pm.
whacking hubby upside the head would classify as a Boob belt?
Works for me.
MD
beverage alert!
Submitted by kata on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:45pm.
LOL
I'll Beverage To That
Submitted by miss911ninja on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 11:29pm.
The belt upside the head!
Obama is pretty good at scaring people.
Submitted by kata on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:12pm.
"I cannot guarantee that those [social security] checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it" - July 12, 2011
Oh yeah.
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 12:15am.
The money they allegedley don't touch. I'm not surprised Captain "Let's take a surprise low-flying jet ride around NY and the Statue of Liberty" Obama would resort to scaring anybody. I would think, though, "over-suggested" is a good adjective for The Ears' "Bush's fault" narrative.
But -- doesn't he do an
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 8:17am.
But -- doesn't he do an equally good job at reassuring us?
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Over-suggested?
Submitted by djwolf12 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:13pm.
This kind of reminds me of the word Roger Clemens threw into the English lexicon: Mis-Remembered.
Mis-Remembered
Submitted by miss911ninja on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 11:39pm.
And beyond that, if we're supposed to accept that BHO over- "suggested," it follows that we must blur the distinction between a suggestion and a STATEMENT!
Correct me if I am wrong
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:35pm.
But didnt we just spend ~1.3trillion (500 billion left over from TARP+ 880 billion from the Stealfromus Bill) on bridges and infrastructure. You would think that would had covered it? I mean at least pay for Obama's re-election campaign. Maybe someone should inform Obama, all the money under the Sun, will not get you re-elected you bum!
Anyone see any of those shovel ready jobs? Wonder how many were stopped by the greenie weenies.
Take a look at how much of
Submitted by Hunter12 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:33pm.
Take a look at how much of that money went into the coffers of Democrat-controlled statehouses, where it was used to prevent lay-offs of Demcrat-controlled union workers. I'm not saying that this was in and of itself a bad thing, but the dues collected from those workers flowed up throug the union bosses' hands and into Democrat campaign funds. States that were controlled by Republicans got a much smaller percentage of the money and the yhad a tendency to spend it more wisely. What's the main driver for Stim II? The first batch of money is gone and there are campaigns to run.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Over-suggested???? Ah, the
Submitted by celator on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:40pm.
Over-suggested???? Ah, the Ministry Of Truth is working overtime to keep this guy's boat afloat.
Nah, the dude lies about everything all the time. It's no more complicated than that.
The N&O is a commie rag.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:44pm.
The fact that they actually researched Bambi's bull shiite lies, and reported on them, even if they referred to them as "over-suggested," is an amazing indication of how much trouble the OSSOB may be in.
Maybe I can add that to his title. He is the OSPOSRBFSOB.
Can you imagine the approval
Submitted by Hunter12 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:24pm.
Can you imagine the approval rating he'd have if they actually reported what he did? Taking kick-backs before passing out $500 million loans. $1.2 billion to a company that just hired Bill Richardson. Golfing while people are standing in employment lines 500 people-long to try and get considered for a couple of jobs that have to be filled by reluctant employers. He's got his agencies regulating what he couldn't legislate when he had majorities in both Chambers of Congress, keeping those employers reluctant to part with potential wage money that may be needed to pay increased taxes and healthcare costs for those employees they do have.
I'd love to see someone document how much of the TARP and Stimulus money made it back to his campaign funds.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Websters
Submitted by IrateNate on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 8:49pm.
The term 'lying sack of crap' comes to mind...
Well
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 9:20pm.
I'll just go with "He lies".
Time to recalibrate another
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 9:49pm.
Time to recalibrate another inartfully worded statement....
It's the teleprompter, or
Submitted by Hunter12 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:14pm.
It's the teleprompter, or rather that dim bulb in the front of it, that's causing the problem.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Yeah, mb............after
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:53pm.
Yeah, mb............after having 'mis-spoken'.............recalibration is usually the next process.
Remember that first pitch?...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:03pm.
Obama couldn't get the ball OVER the plate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBlwUfIoDk&feature=player_embedded
New Spelling
Submitted by djaymick on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 10:25pm.
You should have said, "There's a three-letter word for this. It begins with "L," ends with "E," and has the middle finger in the middle."
You gotta love these guys
Submitted by pbthinker on Thu, 09/22/2011 - 11:09pm.
This is from the same sycophant media who "fact checked" a Saturday Night Live skit, a skit mind you, that was critical of Obama. Here he is lying about bridges being in dis-repair and the press won't touch it with a 10 ft. pole.
By next year, our illustrious free press will have no credibility left, none. They might as well close the doors because the only people buying their rags are the ones who really aren't paying attention anyway, they're just buying it out of habit. When you see stuff like this, you have to wonder what are they here for if they won't even investigate a story like this and question him, during a press conference, until he admits he screwed up.
You know they wouldn't have let this go if it was Bush, you just know it. Perhaps everyone in the media has joined the Congressional Black Caucus so they can't comment or investigate.
Obama will lose because he
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 1:36am.
EDIT
Rush and "facts" are like sunshine to a vampire...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 1:57am.
Obama's "over-suggestion" was minimal, if it existed at all. The Raleigh News & Observer overstated the implications of the President's words. A few readers overreacted to his speech. And Rush Limbaugh's overblown spin bordered on an outright lie..
This is the verbatim comment of the President regarding bridges throughout the state of North Carolina, including those near the Beltline:
"This is a common sense idea. Governor Perdue can tell you--there are a lot of roads and a lot of bridges that need fixing. There is a lot of work that needs to be done in schools and airports. All these things are in need of repair. In North Carolina alone, there are 153 structurally deficient bridges that need to be repaired. Four of them are near here, on or around the Beltline. Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls?...."
Limbaugh claimed incorrectly that Obama said "the bridges in Raleigh were about to come tumbling down" [unless we passed this stupid bill] Obama of course said no such thing. You peddled a falsehood, Rush.
Obama actually undercounted the number of structurally deficient bridges and correctly noted many needed "fixing" and "repaired". Limbaugh incorrectly contended the Observer went out and performed its own survey and couldn't find one bridge in a state of disrepair. (What the Observer actually did was check the public records and obtained a quote from the DOT division chief for several neighboring counties who said that "no bridges were about to fall" [an assertion Obama never made] and that "we make sure those bridges stay in a good state of repair." What Rush fails to mention is that there are indeed bridges in NC (and across the nation) which ARE deteriorating, and the prevention of deterioration to dangerous levels requires constant maintenance and repair as well as money--and lots of it.
The Observer summarizes the nature and scope of this daunting task as follows:
Four major Raleigh bridges listed as structurally deficient are on schedule for replacement....
Crosby [a spokesman for AAA rating service] said DOT does a good job of keeping bridges in shape and deciding--with minimal political interference--which ones should be replaced first.
"They just don't have the funds to keep up with the deterioration, and that's where the problem occurs," Crosby said. [Italics mine]
"There's no public appetite for increasing the gas tax to work on these things, just no appetite for paying for these repairs. The fact that Obama is bringing attention to it is a good thing."
The following is a segment of the AAA report on the top twenty substandard North Carolina bridges:
http://North Carolina Construction News Friday, 6 May 2011 AAA lists top 20 NC substandard bridges
A 40-year old bridge along I-277 in Mecklenburg County carrying more than 110,000 vehicles daily is rated North Carolina’s top substandard bridge, according to AAA Carolinas. The bridge overpass, built in 1971 is the youngest on AAA’s 2011 Top 20 list of substandard bridges but is one of the county’s most heavily traveled highways.
AAA has been rating the state’s bridges since 1998 giving extra emphasis to the amount of traffic a bridge carries because of the effect on commuters and travelers. The average age for a bridge on AAA’s Top 20 is 49 years old.
Bridges in Guilford County and Forsyth County, built in 1955, came in second and third, respectively, on AAA’s annual report of substandard bridges in North Carolina. The Guilford County bridge carries I-40/I-85 Business traffic across South Buffalo Creek and the Forsyth County bridge carries I-40 Business traffic across Liberty Street.
“In ten years we have never had a bridge built more recently than 1955 top AAA’s list,” said Tom Crosby, vice president of communications at AAA Carolinas. “The heavy traffic plays a major role in the ranking, since it affects tens of thousands of commuters daily. As federal stimulus money dries up in North Carolina, we need to find new sources of funding for our state’s Department of Transportation.”
North Carolina has one of the nation’s largest state maintained highway system and is also responsible for 18,290 bridges. Substandard bridges account for 29 percent of all bridges, a 1 percent increase from last year.
Neighboring states have historically done a better job of addressing their bridge and road needs. Their substandard bridge ratios are: Virginia 26%, South Carolina 22%, Tennessee 20% and Georgia 19%.
North Carolina legislators are contemplating capping the state’s gasoline tax, which would hinder the amount of funds available to the state Department of Transportation for bridge and road improvements. Limiting the tax to 32.5 cents a gallon (it is 32.2cents currently and due to increase 2 cents a gallon in July) would cost DOT an estimated $97 million in revenue.
The state has been dealing with annual shortfalls ranging from $500 million to $351 million over the past decade. Last year, it was only able to commit $96 million towards bridge maintenance and repair. The Yadkin River Bridge carrying I-85 traffic through Rowan County has been on AAA’s list of substandard bridges for the past five years. The DOT began a $300 million project to replace that structure last year, with plans for completion in 2013.
Forsyth and Wake Counties topped the list with four bridges among the top 20 substandard bridges. Guilford County had 3 bridges in the top 20 while Cumberland, Buncombe and Mecklenburg Counties each had 2 bridges at the top of AAA’s list. “Safety remains our top priority,” said State Highway Administrator Terry Gibson. “In a time of limited resources, we are always looking for innovative ways to fund our comprehensive plan for timely bridge maintenance, preservation, rehabilitation and replacement. We continue to work with our partners to use hard data to ensure we are meeting the state’s most critical bridge needs.”
NCDOT took advantage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act by programming approximately $12 million for bridge repairs and about $43 million for replacing 44 bridges in the state last year. This is in addition to the department’s funding of about $180 million Federal Aid dollars in the Transportation Improvement Program for bridge replacements each year. NCDOT estimates it would cost $5 billion to replace all structurally deficient bridges. The 2010-2011 bridge maintenance budget is $70 million statewide. In the past ten years, the department has never received adequate funding for bridge maintenance, repair and replacement. [My emphasis in italics]
I don't dispute the assurances of the DOT that there are no bridges in North Carolina on the verge of imminent collapse. But it is also clear that additional funds are needed to make sure the risks are minimized, and that the maximum number of bridges are properly maintained. A bill that provides jobs for thousands of construction workers and money for infrastructure repair and improvement seems like a pretty good idea to me. Unfortunately, the mere fact that Obama is for it is reason enough for Limbaugh to oppose it.
Jer
Uh-huh, Uh-huh...
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:10am.
..and stimulus part 1 was supposed to provide this needed infrastructure and 'jobs' and yet..... well I guess it's like 'schools would be better if they only had more money'... but then they get some more and same results....nope, not enough, still need more money.
Keep volunteering more of YOUR ( and your grandchildren's) money for Obama's little ideas if you want, Jer, but don't try to convince the rest of us. Cut and paste is no match for real-world observation. It's been near 3 years, things have gotten considerably worse for me, F Obama.
ant---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:17am.
Jer is on a one man crusade to 'expose and combat conservative media bias' towards ol' purple lips as proffered by Rush Limbaugh.
Wonder where he got his theme idea from?
MD
Oh, MD, I get it.
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:25am.
If it weren't for Newsbusters and Rush brainwashing me and hiding me from the truth, I might actually adore O'bummer and his vacationing, 42,000 dollar bracelet wearing Wookie. How could I have been so blind? I must make amends, Abortions for everybody! On me!
They fly in a big expensive plane too, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:31am.
but the Obamas don't own it. Nor does Michelle own the bracelet. Don't you think it would have been appropriate to point that out?
Jer
No
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:49am.
We own that plane technically. Actually, we own BOTH planes, since they feel the need to travel to the same vacation destination separately. But they ain't paying much rent. How much did the tax-payers foot for the UN-ELECTED First Wookie's little trips last year? A little skin in the game, and a little 42,000 dollar bracelet and some 500 dollar sneakers makes the 'sacrificing' more bearable. I can't blame the Mrs. for not owning her own plane, and having to borrow ours, kicking poor people out of your hospital and declaring yourself 'Head Food Nazi' doesn't pay as well as it used to.
Your perceived 'point' must be going over my head, because I have more respect for the 'corporate jet owner' who profits through the private sector than the 'public servant' (hah!) that uses and abuses.
Good, I think I'll redeem my
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:55am.
Good, I think I'll redeem my equity share in Air Force One by buzzing Limbaugh's $25mil Palm Beach estate.
Jer
Hey Jer, I believe that Rush
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:05am.
Hey Jer, I believe that Rush PAID for his estate, and his plane, and whatever else he happens to 'own' , with his OWN DAMN MONEY!!! And I'm NOT envious of it, either. I'm pretty sure that he pays a HELL of a lot of his own damn money to the government too!! And I'm also pretty sure that Rush pays his employees very well, and he has probably created more wealth and jobs - and paid more taxes - than Boy Barry could ever HOPE (as in 'hope and change') to do in his pathetic life.......
because Barry doesn't give a flying f**k about anybody else except himself anyway....................
I don't wanna hear any more about this creep..............I've known where he's coming from since Day ONE.............it's too bad the rest of the fools - you included (and I'm speaking politically now, not personally) bought into the whole scam. Bugs Bunny would make a better 'leader' right now than Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama ever could!!!
We are the laughing stock of the whole world............I don't even think that you could have said that when the EVIL George Bush was President!!!
Aloha from an outer island in Hawaii,
Killa
Calm down, killa...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:39am.
I don't begrudge a person being handsomely compensated for the product of his labor and talent. Just having some fun with Air Force One.
And I didn't say that--laughing stock, etc.--about GWB, or ever put the "evil" tag on him.
Aloha.
Jer
Hold on there, Jer,
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 8:31am.
Stand in line. You'll have to wait until o'bama finishes buzzing the Statue of Liberty with our AF 1.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Sorry about cutting and pasting, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:28am.
I suppose I could have sent you on a scavenger hunt for relevant quotes and supplied a couple of links for you to wade through the info yourself.
Jer
BTW...I did intend to link the AAA article.
That's not the point, Jer.
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:39am.
That's not the point, Jer. Though I appreciate your research efforts, infrastructure is the kind of thing we are ALREADY supposed to be paying for, the kind of thing our "reps" are supposed to be spending wisely, not another debt-enhancing boondoggle of an 'emergency' plan, which will in the end, mark my words, provide work to 'undocumented' foreign Nationals, I've seen it before, leaving American workers and tax-payers high n dry.....AGAIN. The examples are numerous, the over-bearing, obstacle-laying, special interest, spend-a-holic nature of our government are numerous, Obamablunders and examples of his BS are numerous, enough already. I'm not concerned with the details, I'm concerned with results....real results..not made-up "billion jobs here" lying propaganda. And I'm not impressed with photo-ops in "enemy" territory or statistics on bridges. F Obama.
→ I've got an idea
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:49am.
We could tax automobile fuel to pay for road and bridge upkeep. We could require automobiles be registered and inspected regularly, and we could exact fees at those times to augment road and bridge upkeep.
Exactamundo, Cool Arrow
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:55am.
Thanks. Maybe we could send that idea to Obama, through Attackwatch.org. He apparently hasn't heard of it, probably thinks bridge tolls are a DOJ charge against Gibson Guitar.
Hey ant!!! I love my
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:13am.
Hey ant!!! I love my Gibsons!!! Are we still under attack??? 'Guitar maker put out of business for being subversive'!!!
Can you believe these idiots??? As the Beatles once sang - 'back in the USSR'!!!
Hey, Killa!
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:24am.
Haven't heard much lately. Maybe we're in that litigious holding-pattern, like the two-year old charges still pending, from which, I believe Gibson STILL hasn't recovered their 'seized' property. Washington disgusts me, the left 100Xtimes so.
On a personal note, a friend of mine may have a gold-top Epiphone to sell me, not as beautiful as my old '93 Les Paul, but it's cheap, and as Mrs. Wookie says, "..careers are fluid now..".
One more time, F Obama.
Hey...........Epiphones are
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:28am.
Hey...........Epiphones are allright...........it's all about the tone, right?? I can remember the tone of some of those old cheap guitars.....perfect!!! Hubert Sumlin played some off-beat model - listen to his tone!!! Jimmy Reed played some el cheapo - listen to his tone!!!
Oh yeah...........F Obama!!! 10000000 times!!!
FUBO is FUBAR!!!!
Sounds like a winner to me...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:58am.
Jer
Check it out, Jer.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 11:33am.
NC has one of the highest gas taxes in the southeast that is supposed to pay for roads and bridges. Guess where most of it goes. To the pet projects of democraps who have controlled the state for most of the last 100 years, or it gets siphoned off for some other pet project!
Personally I suspect that a lot of the money goes to pay for the gooberners plastic surgery. As someone said recently, one more facelift and she'll look like the Joker (with that smile ear to ear). Two more facelifts and she'll look like The Joker with a goatee!
FYI, Rush moved to FL from NY because he saves enough in taxes he doesn't have to pay NY or NYC, to pay for his Palm Beach house. Same reason I moved many years ago.
You, of course, live in TN which has no state tax, either, but I'm sure that being the good liberal you are, you send in a gift to the state treasury every year just to make sure you're paying your 'fair share."
How the hell do you stay up so late thinking about this Shiite? Your really need to get a life, Jer.
Alright, Jer.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:29am.
Let's just say Rush OVER-SUGGESTED what Obama actually said. ;)
That being said, "Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls?" sounds like scaremongering to me. No, it's not the same as actually saying the bridges were about to fall, but the implication of danger is there.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
I'm in a generous mood, Phryj...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 2:44am.
so I'll amend "bordered on an outright lie" to "over suggested".
Re the implication of danger: It's a fair point, but I think way too much was made of it by Obama's critics. And, besides, bridges HAVE fallen due to structural deterioration.
What do you think about "the smoking gun being a mushroom cloud" as an implication of danger in the pre-Iraqi war talk?
Jer
Well, Jer...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:06am.
I'll say the 'mushroom cloud' language was taking it too far. Even based on the intel we had, whatever semblance of a nuclear program Saddam possessed was in it's very early stages and shouldn't have been played up as an imminent threat.
In the long run, it actually hurts the case of anyone trying to defend the Iraq war.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Apples and oranges. Tyrants
Submitted by ant on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:14am.
Apples and oranges. Tyrants and religious zealots aren't concrete and structural steel, bridges don't 'plot' against you.
Not the only example of fear-mongering by Ears or his syncophants, BTW.
The issue is "over-suggested"...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:32am.
not the subject-matter of the suggestion itself. Thus, apples to apples.
Jer
I thought the issue was---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:50am.
Obama's inability, despite his famed "Let me be clear" BS, to be straight with the voting public; and the desire of his minions, media mavens, and sycophants, to transmute as best they can at every opportunity, his prevarications or deliberate inaccuracies into misunderstandings, 'accidental' misrepresentations, or innocent misstatements.
The phrase "over-suggested", for as asinine as it truly is, fits Obama and his administration quite handily; especially the asinine part.
MD
You're over-suggesting, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 4:04am.
Jer
As a liberal Democrat, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 5:52am.
you are certainly in a position to know about the subject.
MD
The thing about the bridges, though...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 3:15am.
...is that we were already going to spend money to fix them anyway, so it stands to reason there's little to no stimulative benefit. The people repairing or replacing the bridges were going to get those jobs anyway. Same deal with teachers and the education portion of the bill. What we really need is private sector jobs, and the jobs bill doesn't directly create them. It relies on the multiplicative effect, which the first stimulus bill has exposed as unreliable.
This jobs bill is dubious at best. Yes, keeping roads and bridges in good shape is important, but I don't think that can tie in with creating jobs and wealth.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Good grief. Talk about
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:18am.
Good grief. Talk about over-reacting and over-writing.
Hey, the idiot can use tax funds to campaign and stand in front of every bridge in America from now till election day -- it merely makes him look childish and small.
The great news for Reps is he just doesn't get it,. And neither do his cultish base.
H/T to his "advisors" and the dopes that came up with his "bridge" strategy.
Next time try to find a structure that actually looks in massive disrepair with closed lanes and restricted traffic.
But even that won't plaster over his banal bloviating.
Keep up the valiant effort of over-covering for the silliest President in the living memory of America's oldest person, Jer.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Good grief indeed ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 8:06am.
... The post was about what the RN&O writer wrote, not what Rush said, which was posted as a supplement after the substance had been presented.
You can take the Rush excerpt out of the post and you're still left with the substance, which is that a reporter felt the need to make up a word which doesn't exist and excuse as "deft spin that political speakers use when they spice up a little information to make a big impression" statements made by the President of the United States which were far, far less than truthful.
What about comparing ...
- (as stated by the DOT official) "The key thing is: We don't have any bridges that are about to fall" to
- "Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls?"
... don't you understand?
He's on the bridge to nowhere
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 6:10am.
Many people who voted for this doofus are so over Obama.
I guess it's time to print up the DON'T BLAME ME, I NEVER VOTED THE FOOL IN T-shirts
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Uhhhhhhhhh...........but.....
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 9:38am.
Uhhhhhhhhh...........but..........but..........but..........................I......I.........I...............I............I'm a warrior for the middle class........
...........aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnndddddd...........uuummmmmmmmm........fix the damn bridge!!!!!
My 5 year old grandson speaks better than the 'greatest orator in our history'.
Simple explanation, Killa.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 11:36am.
That's because your 5 year old is a lot smarter than Bambi!
You might be right,
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 12:43pm.
You might be right, bubba......................he's a lot more honest and mature - that's for sure!!!
***
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 12:46pm.
***
Interesting, isn't it?
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 12:23pm.
It's interesting that Obama, and so many others, mentions that so many bridges and highways in America are seriously "deficient," are structurally degraded, are in danger of "collapse,' but they never seem to mention that the vast majority of those bridges and highways were federal infrastructure projects, which means that the federal government funded , monitored, and certified, the design and construction of all that failing infrastructure. Now, just 40 to 50 years later, when it is abundantly clear that all that federally constructed infrastructure was woefully inadequate from its very inception, they offer a "remedy" of doing it all over again. Yea, let's repeat the same actions that lead to the problem, shall we? Maybe, this time, things will be different, right? Right?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
I need not pull out the psychiatry on this one. He lied.
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 09/23/2011 - 10:27pm.
As in untrue. As in false. As in fib.
Y'all know I can't resist using at least one psychiatric term here. It's an oldie, but a goodie. Chairman Zero is not only a malignant narcissist, but a mendacious malignant narcissist to boot. Lies + Unchecked Ego + Incompetent = Obama.
drsam...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:53am.
Isn't "mendacious malignant narcissist" somewhat redundant? Is there a malignant narcissist who doesn't lie? Finally, what statement or statements by Obama do you consider a lie?
Thanks...
Jer
Can't resist ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:15am.
... Pretty much any one made while his lips are moving. :-->
Hhmm
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:20am.
Well, here's a few
I thought it would be clear I was referring to the statements
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:32pm.
he made in this particular speech about the bridges which were the subject of this blog, but I appreciate the responses.
Jer
Sure, Jer
Submitted by ant on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:21pm.
Let's forget every other lie, if he can go two sentences without making another. Only a known liar would require a defensive play like inventing "over-suggested".
That's an absurd analysis, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:35pm.
drsam said Obama clearly lied in the remarks Tom quoted. I asked drsam what specific statement he considered to be a lie. Your response is essentially that it doesn't matter because he's lied before. That's like a judge asking the prosecutor to specify the crime the defendant is alleged to have committed, and the prosecutor responding "it doesn't matter judge, the accused is a known criminal."
Jer
Right
Submitted by ant on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:33am.
And in defense of a known rapist, the defense lawyer suggests he "over-wooed".
OK, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:46am.
a thumbs up for cleverness.
Jer
The prosecution must obviously specify the---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 1:00am.
crime; but oddly enough, the fact that an individual is a known criminal and has a list of prior crimes committed that prints out on a two foot long piece of paper, is a salient point not allowed into the courtroom.
Too great a chance that a jury, laughingly labeled a jury of his peers, might "pre judge" a known dirt bag, as a dirt bag.
MD
Oh,,,,,,,, well there is this
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 11:23am.
He said, she says